Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-14 Thread Alex Monk
Yeah I wrote some code that got U2F support working through inside the OATHAuth extension, though I don't think it ever got to Gerrit. On Tue, 14 Aug 2018, 10:31 Simon Walker, wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 12/08/18 17:47, Petr Bena wrote: > > Right now there

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-14 Thread Simon Walker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 12/08/18 17:47, Petr Bena wrote: > Right now there are only two options for two factor > authentication: > > * Don't use two-factor authentication (insecure) * Use two factor > authentication (annoying as hell) Has any thought been given to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-14 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 14.08.2018 um 08:53 schrieb Adam Wight: > What I was complaining about is that 2FA has to be used every time I log > in. There doesn't seem to be an industry standard yet, for example gmail > asks for 2FA only every 30 days if you've previously authenticated on the > same machine, but GitHub

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-14 Thread Adam Wight
Apologies, "lack of session persistence" was a bad way to summarize what I've been seeing. My session persistence is usually fine, and lasts a while regardless of whether 2FA is enabled. What I was complaining about is that 2FA has to be used every time I log in. There doesn't seem to be an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-13 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 5:13 AM Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > Most of the time my session doesn't work across projects. If I log in to > the English Wikipedia, I have to log in again to mediawiki.org, Hebrew > Wikisource, and Wikidata [...] This (old, erratic, hard to reproduce) bug can usually be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-13 Thread MA
Hi, I am not experiencing any issues with 2FA on my account. Maybe something related to cookie/browser? Best regards. -- M. A. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-13 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2018-08-13 11:19 GMT+03:00 Daniel Kinzler : > Am 13.08.2018 um 07:34 schrieb Gergo Tisza: > > Two-factor authentication does not affect how the session works. If you > > check "Remember me", the login will last for 180 days, whether you use > > two-factor authentication or not. > > Yea, works

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-13 Thread Brian Wolff
While there are two people in this thread complaining so i suspect its not that obscure, but this is also the first i have ever heard of it as well. Definitely something we need to track down. -- Brian On Monday, August 13, 2018, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > Am 13.08.2018 um 07:34 schrieb Gergo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-13 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 13.08.2018 um 07:34 schrieb Gergo Tisza: > Two-factor authentication does not affect how the session works. If you > check "Remember me", the login will last for 180 days, whether you use > two-factor authentication or not. Yea, works fine for me - and this is the first time I hear people

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-12 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:47 PM Petr Bena wrote: > With two factor authentication it doesn't seem to be possible to make > session persistent Two-factor authentication does not affect how the session works. If you check "Remember me", the login will last for 180 days, whether you use

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-12 Thread Adam Wight
Hi Petr, Thank you for thinking about improvements to 2FA, the lack of session persistence makes me want to buy a paper encyclopedia. Another issue to add to your list is that a lost 2FA device (plus lost scratch codes) requires admin help or someone with DB access, because the self-serve option

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-12 Thread Petr Bena
Oh and I totally forgot to include link to phab task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201784 On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 6:47 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to do some major changes to two factor auth. I am cross > posting this on phabricator and the mailing list to give it some

[Wikitech-l] Making two factor auth less annoying

2018-08-12 Thread Petr Bena
Hello, I would like to do some major changes to two factor auth. I am cross posting this on phabricator and the mailing list to give it some more attention and to start some proper discussion before anyone starts working on this: Right now there are only two options for two factor