Re: [Wikitech-l] Naming our developer events

2013-01-24 Thread Gregory Varnum
I may be in the minority - but I like the idea of adding some structure to the naming and logos. It may not matter to those of us already involved, but in trying to engage new people - having three events with very similar purpose but three different names is confusing and sometimes makes us

[Wikitech-l] Naming our developer events

2013-01-23 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, back in November Erik and Sumana explained the intention of the WMF to get less involved in the direct organization of developer events. Instead, the WMF will empower and help community groups taking the lead organizing developer activities.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Naming our developer events

2013-01-23 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 01/23/2013 12:14 PM, Quim Gil wrote: Hi, back in November Erik and Sumana explained the intention of the WMF to get less involved in the direct organization of developer events. Instead, the WMF will empower and help community groups taking the lead organizing developer activities.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Naming our developer events

2013-01-23 Thread Alolita Sharma
Quim, Responses inline. - We seem to have an erratic use of Wikipedia, Wikimedia, MediaWiki, [choose your logo] and [nothing] for naming these events. For instance, see the web pages of San Francisco Hackathon Berlin Hackathon or Amsterdam Hackathon and try to find the full name written down.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Naming our developer events

2013-01-23 Thread Yuvi Panda
+1 for not forcing a standard on. (Talking from the perspective of organizing smaller events) If we standardize on 'Hackathon', we'll have people coming in and asking us 'how to crack fb?'. If we call it 'Workshop', we'll have people coming in asking for certificates (or wondering how much to pay

Re: [Wikitech-l] Naming our developer events

2013-01-23 Thread Quim Gil
(It would be good to have the opinion of the http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013 organizers here) On 01/23/2013 09:21 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: I am actually fine with inconsistency here. I think you mean you are fine with flexibility. Me too. :) I don't think we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Naming our developer events

2013-01-23 Thread Tomasz Finc
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: MediaWiki Hackathon City As a team that doesn't exclusively work within MediaWiki what would you suggest for naming if someone wanted to run a hackathon on our mobile apps? Our mobile apps are fully decoupled from mw and only

Re: [Wikitech-l] Naming our developer events

2013-01-23 Thread Alolita Sharma
Tomasz has a good point. Language tools and apps don't use Mediawiki exclusively either. This is one of the reasons we used Wikipedia Engineering instead of Mediawiki for our Bangalore DevCamp naming. -Alolita On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Naming our developer events

2013-01-23 Thread sankarshan
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Looking at e.g. the Mozilla and Ubuntu communities you can see that they have defaults (MozCamps, Firefox OS App Days, Ubuntu Hours, UDS, LoCo meetings... and flexibility for alternatives as well. Another relevant example

Re: [Wikitech-l] Naming our developer events

2013-01-23 Thread Quim Gil
If an event is specific to a piece of software then by all means let's call it after such piece of software e.g. Wikipedia Mobile Hackathon (or DevCamp, if we decide that is a better default than Hackathon) On 01/23/2013 10:46 AM, Alolita Sharma wrote: Tomasz has a good point. Language

Re: [Wikitech-l] Naming our developer events

2013-01-23 Thread bawolff
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: [snip] But there is another point here, which is how narrowed / inclusive are we with the MediaWiki word. You can see it as the name of a CMS. You can see it as a name of a wider community. Looking at the content at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Naming our developer events

2013-01-23 Thread Quim Gil
On 01/23/2013 03:07 PM, bawolff wrote: To be honest making naming requirements sounds like a bikeshed discussion. I'm sorry it has been perceived by some as such. I started the discussion after the real need this morning of suggesting a name to a local promoter willing to organize an event.