Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2012-03-14 Thread Helder
And here we go again: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)oldid=481885933#The_banner On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 09:37, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: A Wikipedia page loads. The last thing to load is the banner. This pushes the page content down. If

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2012-03-14 Thread jidanni
H == Helder helder.w...@gmail.com writes: A Wikipedia page loads. The last thing to load is the banner. This pushes the page content down. If you've clicked on a link near the top of the page, the banner grabs it instead. And also further down the page, we aim for link 32, and as our finger

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread Strainu
2011/11/21 Russell Nelson russnel...@gmail.com: Perhaps we should keep the banner space there during the time of the fundraiser, and if the person requests to not see Jimmy, then show them Brandon. And if Brandon makes them unhappy (as if!), they could switch to seeing pretty panorama photos.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread K. Peachey
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: Hell no! When I say I don't wanna see any fundraiser banners, it means i don't wanna see ANY banners related to the fundraiser, no mater how pretty they look. Otherwise they will just go on the AdBlockPlus list. You should

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread jidanni
S == Strainu strain...@gmail.com writes: S Otherwise they will just go on the AdBlockPlus list. No wonder Wikipedia ads are so irritating (besides making babies cry), they are the only ads on the net one still sees these days,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: jida...@jidanni.org S == Strainu strain...@gmail.com writes: S Otherwise they will just go on the AdBlockPlus list. No wonder Wikipedia ads are so irritating (besides making babies cry), they are the only ads on the net one still sees these days,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Nov 21, 2011 1:48 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: S == Strainu strain...@gmail.com writes: S Otherwise they will just go on the AdBlockPlus list. No wonder Wikipedia ads are so irritating (besides making babies cry), they are the only ads on the net one still sees these days,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: Maybe we could have a script tag in the head that modifies the relevant stylesheet rules based on cookies present. D'oh, of course that's a better solution. And I'm supposed to be a JavaScript expert *hangs head in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread Chad
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Wow the sense of (unwarranted) entitlement among most of those comments complaining about this policy is just... breathtaking. Ads?? On MY websites?!? -Chad ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread jidanni
JB == Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com writes: JB http://www.jwz.org/blog/2010/11/please-read-a-personal-appeal-to-wikipedia-founder-jimmy-wales/#comment-87364 Naw, http://www.jwz.org/blog/2010/11/please-read-a-personal-appeal-to-wikipedia-founder-jimmy-wales/#comment-87359 + [8861]

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: jida...@jidanni.org Doing this doesn't work, and never did. Creepy Jimmy, with his come to my van, child eyes invariably comes back, like a particularly nasty genital infection, within 2 days at most. Ok, JL? That is *right* around the bend to making you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread Ryan Lane
       Doing this doesn't work, and never did. Creepy Jimmy, with his come to my van, child eyes invariably comes back,        like a particularly nasty genital infection, within 2 days at most. Look, there have been numerous ways discussed to remove the banners and never see them ever

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread Russell Nelson
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:33 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: JB == Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com writes: JB http://www.jwz.org/blog/2010/11/please-read-a-personal-appeal-to-wikipedia-founder-jimmy-wales/#comment-87364 Naw,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread Arthur Richards
Getting back on track here... There's already a bug open for this issue in bugzilla ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26234). Relative to the current priorities for fundraiser engineering, this is pretty low. But if someone outside of the team wanted to take a stab at resolving

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread Ryan Kaldari
This has already been hashed out technically, and is doable. The only issue is getting people to standardize on a banner size, which I've tried for the past few months to get people to agree on, but with no luck. In order for this to work we need a benevolent dictator (Zach?, Erik?) to state

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread Peter Gehres
FWIW, we have pretty much standardized on a banner height of 172px and, to my knowledge, have no plans to modify that. If we did, it would get smaller and not larger. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.orgwrote: This has already been hashed out technically, and is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread David Gerard
On 22 November 2011 00:14, Peter Gehres li...@pgehres.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.orgwrote: This has already been hashed out technically, and is doable. The only issue is getting people to standardize on a banner size, which I've tried for the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-21 Thread Peter Gehres
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:18 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 November 2011 00:14, Peter Gehres li...@pgehres.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: This has already been hashed out technically, and is doable. The only issue

[Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-20 Thread David Gerard
A Wikipedia page loads. The last thing to load is the banner. This pushes the page content down. If you've clicked on a link near the top of the page, the banner grabs it instead. This happened last year and it was reported then (and it was incredibly annoying then too). It also fouls up stats on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-20 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:37 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: A Wikipedia page loads. The last thing to load is the banner. This pushes the page content down. If you've clicked on a link near the top of the page, the banner grabs it instead. This happened last year and it was

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-20 Thread Tim Starling
On 20/11/11 22:42, Roan Kattouw wrote: On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:37 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: A Wikipedia page loads. The last thing to load is the banner. This pushes the page content down. If you've clicked on a link near the top of the page, the banner grabs it instead.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please preload a space in the page for the banner

2011-11-20 Thread Russell Nelson
Perhaps we should keep the banner space there during the time of the fundraiser, and if the person requests to not see Jimmy, then show them Brandon. And if Brandon makes them unhappy (as if!), they could switch to seeing pretty panorama photos. I'll contribute this one: