[Wikitech-l] Revamping interwiki prefixes

2014-01-16 Thread This, that and the other
Long message coming up... please be brave and take a look :) This is a proposal to try and bring order to the messy area of interwiki linking and interwiki prefixes, particularly for non-WMF users of MediaWiki. At the moment, anyone who installs MediaWiki gets a default interwiki table that i

[Wikitech-l] Revamping interwiki prefixes

2014-01-16 Thread This, that and the other
Sorry about the borked line wrapping in the previous message - I'm resending it so you can read it properly! This is a proposal to try and bring order to the messy area of interwiki linking and interwiki prefixes, particularly for non-WMF users of MediaWiki. At the moment, anyone who insta

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revamping interwiki prefixes

2014-01-16 Thread hoo
You might want to have a look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/New_sites_system . That's more future proof than using the current interwiki system IMO. Also we already use a subset of that for Wikidata. Cheers, Marius On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 22:06 +1100, This, that and the o

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revamping interwiki prefixes

2014-01-16 Thread Nathan Larson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:53 AM, This, that and the other < at.li...@live.com.au> wrote: > 1. Split the existing interwiki map on Meta [2] into a "global interwiki > map", >located on MediaWiki.org (draft at [3]), and a "WMF-specific interwiki > map" >on Meta (draft at [4]). Wikimedia-spe

[Wikitech-l] Proposed Program Architecture Summit 2014

2014-01-16 Thread Diederik van Liere
Heya, The Program Committee for the Architecture Summit has published a proposed program: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_Summit_2014 Highlights of the Program: 1) We have tried to incorporate flexibility into the program by allowing 4 unconference break-out slots, 1 open plenary ses

[Wikitech-l] L3 outage reports at Equinix Ashburn

2014-01-16 Thread Jay Ashworth
That's where we are, right? Some people on outages are reporting no-light on on-campus fibers*; if we see an uptick in problem reports this morning, that might be why. Cheers, -- jra * specifically DC2 to DC5 -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com De

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposed Program Architecture Summit 2014

2014-01-16 Thread legoktm
Hi, Given that the Configuration cluster had the second most number of votes in the poll, why was it left of the agenda entirely? -- Legoktm On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Diederik van Liere wrote: > Heya, > > The Program Committee for the Architecture Summit has published a proposed > program

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposed Program Architecture Summit 2014

2014-01-16 Thread Diederik van Liere
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:11 PM, legoktm wrote: > Hi, > Given that the Configuration cluster had the second most number of > votes in the poll, why was it left of the agenda entirely? > We have been going back and forth between plenary session and breakout session for Configuration, it's definite

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposed Program Architecture Summit 2014

2014-01-16 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Diederik van Liere wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:11 PM, legoktm wrote: >> Hi, >> Given that the Configuration cluster had the second most number of >> votes in the poll, why was it left of the agenda entirely? >> > We have been going back and forth between pl

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revamping interwiki prefixes

2014-01-16 Thread This, that and the other
"Nathan Larson" wrote in message news:CAF-JeUxsM-jQ85nij+OALA=rlolnppmhx7yhka1_hiz7m0a...@mail.gmail.com... Why is it worth the trouble of maintaining two separate lists? Do the Wikimedia-specific interwiki prefixes get in people's way, e.g. when they're reading through the interwiki list and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revamping interwiki prefixes

2014-01-16 Thread Nathan Larson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:35 PM, This, that and the other < at.li...@live.com.au> wrote: > I can't say I care about people reading through the interwiki list. It's > just that with the one interwiki map, we are projecting "our" internal > interwikis, like strategy:, foundation:, sulutil:, wmch: on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revamping interwiki prefixes

2014-01-16 Thread Arcane 21
If I might weigh in here, I don't see the harm in including all the WMF wikis onto the interwiki map. MediaWiki is intensely related to the WMF, so those links make logical sense and it does no harm to include them in my opinion. > Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 22:40:37 -0500 > From: nathanlarson3...@

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revamping interwiki prefixes

2014-01-16 Thread Tim Starling
On 16/01/14 22:06, This, that and the other wrote: > "Most well-established and active wikis should have interwiki > prefixes, regardless of whether or not they are using MediaWiki > software. > Sites that are not wikis may be acceptable in some cases, > particularly if they are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revamping interwiki prefixes

2014-01-16 Thread Nathan Larson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > I think the interwiki map should be retired. I think broken links > should be removed from it, and no new wikis should be added. > > Interwiki prefixes, local namespaces and article titles containing a > plain colon intractably conflict. Ever