Re: (FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002

2002-02-06 Thread J.Brown (Ender/Amigo)
For those coming internationally, just hope that Microsoft isn't waiting at the airport with a bunch of DCMA lawyers to arrest you :) Mind you, M$ wouldn't do that because they don't like to admit that Linux, Wine, or anything else actually exists. Regards,| It's always bad news in

RE: (FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002

2002-02-06 Thread Patrik Stridvall
I received this today... it seems Lindows seem to want to host a Wine conference. I noticed that they misspelled Alexandre's name and email address, though they claim to work with him. Well, I'm not suprised. I'm not 100% sure how his last name is spelled. I usually cut and paste or more

RE: (FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002

2002-02-06 Thread Patrik Stridvall
For those coming internationally, just hope that Microsoft isn't waiting at the airport with a bunch of DCMA lawyers to arrest you :) Mind you, M$ wouldn't do that because they don't like to admit that Linux, Wine, or anything else actually exists. I don't think Wine does anything DMCA

Re: (FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002

2002-02-06 Thread James
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 11:40 am, Patrik Stridvall wrote: I received this today... it seems Lindows seem to want to host a Wine conference. I noticed that they misspelled Alexandre's name and email address, though they claim to work with him. Well, I'm not suprised. I'm not 100%

Re: (FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002

2002-02-06 Thread James Hatheway
PS. Does anybody know if a VISA to the US is required for citizens of the European Union countries (like Sweden)? Nope. Check out: http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/lawenfor/bmgmt/inspect/vwpp.htm Most importantly: What Countries Are in the VWP? The following countries are currently in the

Re: Some more MSVC fixes

2002-02-06 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Patrik Stridvall wrote: I have finally tried to compile Wine with MSVC. Eventhough I had to do some hack on the whole it compiled quite well. Great. On a slightly related note, is it possible that we compile Wine with the MS headers? What would it take to do that? If we

RE: (FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002

2002-02-06 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Patrik Stridvall wrote: Anybody else interested? I might, provided of course some other people show up... :) -- Dimi.

Re: (FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002

2002-02-06 Thread Joerg Mayer
First the huge Office 2000 patch from Codeweavers, now the wineconf invitation from lindows. So we might call it official that lindows is using wine and they DO give back their patches? ciao Jörg -- Joerg Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I found out that

Re: (FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002

2002-02-06 Thread James Hatheway
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Patrik Stridvall wrote: Anybody else interested? People from Macadamian might be going, it all depends on our various schedules. (Right now it is looking like a go, but won't know for sure for a few days) -James -- James Hatheway [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~

RE: Some more MSVC fixes

2002-02-06 Thread Patrik Stridvall
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Patrik Stridvall wrote: I have finally tried to compile Wine with MSVC. Eventhough I had to do some hack on the whole it compiled quite well. Great. On a slightly related note, is it possible that we compile Wine with the MS headers? What would it take to do that?

Re: (FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002

2002-02-06 Thread Stefan Görling
If i got a paid trip, i'll come anytime... But I can see why I'm not invited :( The working SetupAPI dlls is on it's way, it's taiking some time as i'm currently heavily overworked, most of the functionality is there however. /Stefan I received this today... it seems Lindows seem to want

Re: (FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002

2002-02-06 Thread Stefan Görling
Hmm, If so, wouldn't they be recruiting wine developers? Or have they? Best REgards, Stefan Joerg Mayer wrote: First the huge Office 2000 patch from Codeweavers, now the wineconf invitation from lindows. So we might call it official that lindows is using wine and they DO give back their

RE: Some more MSVC fixes

2002-02-06 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Patrik Stridvall wrote: Well. If you do as I did and just add just create a Visual Studio Project (.dsp) for each DLL using the MS headers is the default. I had to add ..\..\include to the include path to get it to use the Wine header. Sorry Patrik if my questions are

Favor: I need examples of un or poorly documented APIs

2002-02-06 Thread Jeremy White
I'm working with someone involved in the Microsoft trial, and they are looking for some information from the Wine team. Specifically, they need clear examples of Windows APIs that are not documented, or cases where the actual working of an API is substantially different from the documented

RE: Some more MSVC fixes

2002-02-06 Thread Steven Edwards
Platform Compilers BinFmt Headers - -- --- Linux gccELF Wine *BSD MSVC PE MS Solaris BorlandReactOS(?) Cygwin There are very little changes needed for the ReactOS port and only one or 2 ReactOS specific

RE: Some more MSVC fixes

2002-02-06 Thread Patrik Stridvall
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Patrik Stridvall wrote: Well. If you do as I did and just add just create a Visual Studio Project (.dsp) for each DLL using the MS headers is the default. I had to add ..\..\include to the include path to get it to use the Wine header. Sorry Patrik if my

RE: Some more MSVC fixes

2002-02-06 Thread Francois Gouget
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Patrik Stridvall wrote: [...] I also so got some other strange error with PCONTEXT in winnt.h which in didn't understand. You must define _X86_ before including 'winnt.h'. Otherwise it won't known on which architecture it's being compile and it won't define CONTEXT.

RE: Some more MSVC fixes

2002-02-06 Thread Patrik Stridvall
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Patrik Stridvall wrote: [...] I also so got some other strange error with PCONTEXT in winnt.h which in didn't understand. You must define _X86_ before including 'winnt.h'. Otherwise it won't known on which architecture it's being compile and it won't define

Re: compiling .obj with wine

2002-02-06 Thread Eric Pouech
Is it possible to compile/linkedit .obj, not the source, with wine libs? not directly... you'd need a linker that understands both .o and .obj formats tweaking binutils with windows support enable might do it, but it may be painfull A+ -- --- Eric Pouech

RE: Some more MSVC fixes

2002-02-06 Thread Patrik Stridvall
Personally I think that the ultimate solution would be to automatically generate the .dsp files from Makefile.in or otherwise. May not be easy but you are pretty good with perl so if anyone can pull it off it's you :-) I don't think it is that difficult even for somebody less

Conferences

2002-02-06 Thread Keith Matthews
Speaking of conferences, is anyone planning on going to FOSDEM (16th 17th Feb, Brussels) ? -- Keith Matthews Frequentous Consultants - Linux Services, Oracle development database administration

Re: Some more MSVC fixes

2002-02-06 Thread David Laight
Hmm. Well, I gave the MS headers one more try and discovered a few not so nice things. If you have a Wine specific include like below in a file: #include heap.h and this file heap.h in turn has a #include winbase.h it will include the Wine version of the file instead of the MS version.

Re: Some more MSVC fixes

2002-02-06 Thread David Laight
Alexandre Julliard wrote: David Laight [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is the standard behaviour for C includes. It is actually usually best to use not for all header files - unless you explicitely want the file included from the current directory. The problem is our makedep uses

RE: Some more MSVC fixes

2002-02-06 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Steven Edwards wrote: There are very little changes needed for the ReactOS port and only one or 2 ReactOS specific headers. ReactOS only has private headers for the kernel. Everything else we use is either in the mingw win32api or wine. Nice. In that case replace ReactOS

Re: (FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002

2002-02-06 Thread Ove Kaaven
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, James wrote: I don't know about Sweden, but you definitely DON'T need a visa if you're a UK citizen; there's a list of countries eligible for the visa waiver program, under which you just sign a declaration that you are not a Nazi war criminal, terrorist or drug

Re: Conferences

2002-02-06 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Speaking of conferences, is anyone planning on going to FOSDEM (16th 17th Feb, Brussels) ? I'll go (easy, I live in Belgium :-). Laurent Pinchart

Re: flaky regression(?) - patch.py?id=1012510895681951425038278

2002-02-06 Thread lawson_whitney
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Eric Pouech wrote: what still remains to be fixed is adding support for console handles based on unix consoles (today, it's still a bit hacky), and implement a (n)curse (or xterm as Marcus once did) back end for wineconsole A+ I didn't mean to criticize the debugger.

Re: flaky regression(?) - patch.py?id=1012510895681951425038278

2002-02-06 Thread Eric Pouech
I would like to know if/how it is possible to set a watchpoint from inside, say, a Winelib program (without any UI involved until the watchpoint trips), but don't waste a lot of your time on it if it's not. normally yes. start your program from the debugger, then set your watchpoint: watch *

Wine license change

2002-02-06 Thread Jeremy White
Folks, Some recent events have occurred that have made me change my opinion about a Wine license change. During my involvement in the Wine project, I have always striven to make sure that I, and my company, did what was best for the Wine project. I believe Wine's success will help to make the

Re: Wine license change

2002-02-06 Thread Joerg Mayer
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 04:54:05PM -0600, Jeremy White wrote: Some recent events have occurred that have made me change my opinion about a Wine license change. ... However, with some recent events I cannot disclose, it is clear to me that the opportunity for Wine to be used in a proprietary

Re: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).

2002-02-06 Thread Sylvain Petreolle
Bonjour, Je rencontre un problème persistant avec wineconsole. Dès qu'il est chargé le système ralentit et wine grandit en mémoire jusqu'à saturation de la mémoire swap.(256M ram physique + 208M swap) Le message fixme:bitmap:CreateCompatibleBitmap got bad width 1939840 or height 2457900 me fait

Re: Wine license change

2002-02-06 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Joerg Mayer wrote: OK, when the last discussion was going on, I started out with the opinion that the change would be good and changed it to not so good, because if proprietary stuff that *is* part of the windows kernel (or drivers) needs to be implemented, this can't be

Re: Wine license change

2002-02-06 Thread Joerg Mayer
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 07:51:04PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: Yeah, that could work. But I still don't understand your objections about the proprietary drivers: LGPL would work just fine with that. What's your concern? Look at the copy protection stuff that transgaming have added to their

Date format

2002-02-06 Thread info2000
Hello, I´m running a windows aplication made on Builder C, and when I execute de program with Wine, I receive an error message, reference to the date format, I get the year correctly, but the rest of date content is =0, for example 01 January 2002 at 13:20:15 is= 17/20/02 00:00:00 can you

RE: Wine license change

2002-02-06 Thread Chris Green
Joerg wrote: OK, when the last discussion was going on, I started out with the opinion that the change would be good and changed it to not so good, because if proprietary stuff that *is* part of the windows kernel (or drivers) needs to be implemented, this can't be done with an LGPLed wine.

Re: Favor: I need examples of un or poorly documented APIs

2002-02-06 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
Jeremy White wrote: Specifically, they need clear examples of Windows APIs that are not documented, or cases where the actual working of an API is substantially different from the documented behavior. I know of a bunch of functions in the rpcrt4.dll. Most of them starting with Ndrxxx. many

RE: Wine license change

2002-02-06 Thread Chris Green
Hi Jeremy et al, Well, for my 2c worth (or about 1c in US currency :)) I suspect most people who don't look at the license would assume that Wine is xGPL anyway, as so many Linux-type things are... so from a typical user's point of view they'd probably not notice the difference. The occasional

Re: Wine license change

2002-02-06 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
Jeremy White wrote: Should the Wine project switch to a license which has as its goal to attempt to secure some form of Copyleft protection for Wine while still permitting proprietary software to link and bind with Wine? Since I like the (L)GPL licenses, I have no problem

Re: Wine license change

2002-02-06 Thread Steven Edwards
This little offtopic butWhat ever happend to TWINE? Is there anything of TWIN left that would be used moves to LGPL? Steven __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Re: Wine license change

2002-02-06 Thread Daniel Walker
Jeremy White wrote: Folks, Some recent events have occurred that have made me change my opinion about a Wine license change. However, with some recent events I cannot disclose, it is clear to me that the opportunity for Wine to be used in a proprietary product is too tempting and has

RE: Wine license change

2002-02-06 Thread Steven Edwards
So lets get this straight, if no one wants to change to the LGPL you'll fork the code? I don't have anything necessarily against the LGPL, but your email sounds all wrong. I don’t see how there can be a problem here. The current license allows anyone to do whatever they please with the code. You

Re: Wine license change

2002-02-06 Thread Daniel Walker
Steven Edwards wrote: So lets get this straight, if no one wants to change to the LGPL you'll fork the code? I don't have anything necessarily against the LGPL, but your email sounds all wrong. I don?t see how there can be a problem here. The current license allows anyone to do whatever

RE: Wine license change

2002-02-06 Thread Steven Edwards
As someone with absolutely no connection to anyone at Codeweavers, I think Codeweavers' actions over the past two years or so more than sufficiently establishes the fact that they deserve to be given the benefit of the doubt in regards to statements like these. You can agree or disagree with

Re: Wine license change

2002-02-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 08:17:39PM -0800, Daniel Walker wrote: I don't think anything in Jeremy's message suggested that conversation was a requirement. He's looking for feedback to get an idea of how members of the Wine community feel. But if you're open to being persuaded that the

Re: Wine license change: it's about time!

2002-02-06 Thread Dan Kegel
Jeremy White wrote: ... However, with some recent events I cannot disclose, it is clear to me that the opportunity for Wine to be used in a proprietary product is too tempting and has caused some harm to the Wine project. Based on experience, I feel strongly that the potential for harm is