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Subject: Re: So lets say we do it
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 02:51:47 -0800
From: Kenny Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know how to use mail lists, so i though I might mail you
In responce to your ideas about reorganizing the winehq
Am Fre, 2002-11-01 um 00.09 schrieb Dimitrie O. Paun:
-- the big Navigation box is wasted space, because
1. It contains items everybody expects as a left-hand menu
2. Contains no real content
-- while pretty, the layout is a non-standard, and is a wee bit
too far away
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On October 31, 2002 07:00 pm, Francois Gouget wrote:
This is a good start. Here are my comments, based on
the following principles:
[...]
1. About
1.1. Intro
1.2. Why Wine
1.3. Wine myths debunked
1.4. Technical details
1.5.
On November 1, 2002 03:04 am, Francois Gouget wrote:
Anyway, I'm not sure 'Status' should be top-level and if you look on
GNUStep's site it is in fact level 2 (it's a submenu of 'Information').
It is definitely a 'one-click' item. I get a instant surge of sympathy
for projects (there are quite
On November 1, 2002 03:04 am, Francois Gouget wrote:
My thinking is that only the top-level items would be visible on the
home page and then you can click on an item to expand it and go to its
first page.
Agreed.
Actually, if we want to reduce the number of top-level menus in my
proposal we
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 02:11:31AM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
That is,
Lets assume for the sake of argument that Alexandre likes my
0.8 idea so much, that he releases Wine 0.8 with much fanfare
next Monday (so we have a good audience), and the news reaches
Slashdot where a message with
If you want more screenshots, then you just need to go to the AppDB.
(although we don't mention it yet, so I'll add a subtitle
for more screenshots, see AppDB to the screenshot now)
hmm.. IMHO the screenshots should be shown BEFORE the rest of the site shows
up.. screenshots are the most
On October 31, 2002 10:29 am, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Sorry to say that, but in this mail, *you* were talking *some* crap IMHO
;-)
It's OK, you just missed the point. :P Honestly, you did: it's not ranting,
it's a way to highlight where, and what we need to do. I said that in the
P.S. by the way.
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So the 5% left, install wine, install a Win-app, and play around.
Great, it works!
You forgot a few things here:
First it doesn't even start because they don't have a config file. OK,
they copy one from somewhere, it doesn't work because the drives
El jue, 31 de oct de 2002, a las 02:11, Dimitrie O. Paun escribio:
That is,
Lets assume for the sake of argument that Alexandre likes my
0.8 idea so much, that he releases Wine 0.8 with much fanfare
next Monday (so we have a good audience),
10th Anniversary (??-??-2003)? sounds to a good
On October 31, 2002 11:40 am, Carlos Lozano wrote:
10th Anniversary (??-??-2003)? sounds to a good date.
Cool! :) Alexandre, when is that?
--
Dimi.
From: Alexandre Julliard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2002/10/31 Thu AM 11:24:28 EST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: Wine Devel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: So lets say we do it
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So the 5% left, install wine, install a Win-app, and play around
2. People will look for the typical left-side menu:
Home
About
Status
Development
Download
Screenshots
*BZZT* We don't have any. 5% will drop off here.
Sorry to say that, but in this mail, *you* were talking *some* crap IMHO
;-)
We *do* have
On October 31, 2002 11:24 am, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
You forgot a few things here:
Yes, and no: it was getting late, hand was all funny,
email was getting too long... :)
First it doesn't even start because they don't have a config file. OK,
Hear, hear! BTW, we should move configuration
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On October 31, 2002 11:40 am, Carlos Lozano wrote:
10th Anniversary (??-??-2003)? sounds to a good date.
Cool! :) Alexandre, when is that?
Sometime in June, I don't have the exact date of the first release
unfortunately. Release 0.0.2 was on June
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 08:24:28AM -0800, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So the 5% left, install wine, install a Win-app, and play around.
Great, it works!
You forgot a few things here:
As for the SuSE wine RPMS:
First it doesn't even start
On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 12:19, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On October 31, 2002 11:24 am, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
You forgot a few things here:
[...] it doesn't work because the drives are wrong.
Yep. wineinstall?
Then they don't have the proper registry (winedefault.reg? what's that?)
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On October 31, 2002 11:24 am, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
First it doesn't even start because they don't have a config file. OK,
Hear, hear! BTW, we should move configuration out of documentation/samples
I don't think that would really help rpm
On October 31, 2002 01:21 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Sometime in June, I don't have the exact date of the first release
unfortunately. Release 0.0.2 was on June 25.
Too far away for 0.8, too close for 1.0. Maybe 0.9, if we're lucky.
--
Dimi.
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:19:33PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On October 31, 2002 11:24 am, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
You forgot a few things here:
Yes, and no: it was getting late, hand was all funny,
email was getting too long... :)
First it doesn't even start because they don't
Em Qui, 2002-10-31 às 16:38, Dimitrie O. Paun escreveu:
On October 31, 2002 01:21 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Sometime in June, I don't have the exact date of the first release
unfortunately. Release 0.0.2 was on June 25.
Too far away for 0.8, too close for 1.0. Maybe 0.9, if we're
On October 31, 2002 02:44 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Gee, thanks !
You know how many man-weeks (err, months ?) I've been putting into it,
right ?
I was referring to the interface, not the content. In fact, I think
the web-interface makes a disservice to the content. In fact, I am
saying quite the
On October 31, 2002 03:00 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Not yet too late for another 'Halloween' release though ;)
Yep...
...next year ! ;)
I don't want to jinx it, but at the rate we're going, we'd be
lucky to do a 1.0 'Halloween' release next year :/
--
Dimi.
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 03:07:15PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On October 31, 2002 03:00 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Not yet too late for another 'Halloween' release though ;)
Yep...
...next year ! ;)
I don't want to jinx it, but at the rate we're going, we'd be
lucky to do a 1.0
On October 31, 2002 02:44 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
For christ's sake, IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE DOCU, THEN *IMPROVE IT*.
Well, that's a good point. And I did a bit, but not nearly as much
as you.
I did. (past tense)
But maybe then it seems like I didn't...
Hey, I've never complained about the
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 07:08:07PM +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 08:24:28AM -0800, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
So no, I'm not going to make a general public release just yet...
Not yet too late for another 'Halloween' release though ;)
Yep...
...next year ! ;)
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 02:58:12PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On October 31, 2002 02:44 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
For christ's sake, IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE DOCU, THEN *IMPROVE IT*.
Well, that's a good point. And I did a bit, but not nearly as much
as you.
I did. (past tense)
But
On October 31, 2002 03:09 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Well, that maintenance would e.g. include the localization work I
suggested, having a *separate* CVS containing all localized Wine Guides,
and having automatically updated docu maintenance web pages
for every language involved.
But this is
On October 31, 2002 03:11 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Why, the current rate is avalanche-like ;)
I'm growing ever more astonished about the increase in wine-patches per
day...
Same here. It's quite amazing! But can we sustain the rate for a year?
But of course you're sorta right, we're still
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 03:17:26PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On October 31, 2002 03:09 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Well, that maintenance would e.g. include the localization work I
suggested, having a *separate* CVS containing all localized Wine Guides,
and having automatically updated
On October 31, 2002 03:33 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
(OK, if you're overly pessimistic, then you'll probably tell me now that
nobody will ever work on updating foreign languages, despite of such
a marvellous infrastructure)
No, all I am saying is that's a lot of effort, for not that huge gain.
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 03:20:34PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On October 31, 2002 03:11 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Why, the current rate is avalanche-like ;)
I'm growing ever more astonished about the increase in wine-patches per
day...
Same here. It's quite amazing! But can we
On October 31, 2002 03:58 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
BTW, I just updated the Contribute page quite a lot.
Very cool. You see, there's a lot of good stuff on the site,
but it's kinda hidden. We need to bring some of it
(like screenshots, FAQ, contributing) more to the front,
so people stumble upon
On October 31, 2002 04:18 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Bl**dy b*tch ! :-))
Listen man, I don't like that! I mean, what's up with the stars?!? :)))
First you annoy the h*ll out of people, and then you behave as if nothing
had ever happened and the weather was fantastic... ;-)
Oh, Andy dude, you
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 04:16:45PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On October 31, 2002 03:58 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
BTW, I just updated the Contribute page quite a lot.
Very cool. You see, there's a lot of good stuff on the site,
but it's kinda hidden. We need to bring some of it
(like
On October 31, 2002 04:26 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
I wouldn't be 100% against placing a Screenshot link on the main page
- it's a mere 99% only.
But with the current menu infrastructure, I'm about 150% against it.
If we added a separate Screenshots menu item (which, by the way, I don't
think
On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 15:30, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
Agreed. I say, let's get some of the content in shape, and worry about
the form a wee bit later. BTW, any web-design guys around, that may
want to take on this task?
Oh pick ME ME ME! :-)
Wait a minute, I'm already in charge of that. Must
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 04:05:21PM -0600, Jeremy Newman wrote:
On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 15:30, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
Agreed. I say, let's get some of the content in shape, and worry about
the form a wee bit later. BTW, any web-design guys around, that may
want to take on this task?
Oh
On October 31, 2002 05:05 pm, Jeremy Newman wrote:
Oh pick ME ME ME! :-)
OK mister, you're on! :)
I don't volunteer my weekends often, so speak now.
IMO we need to reorganize the front page a bit more than that.
Namely:
-- the big Navigation box is wasted space, because
1. It
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
[...]
IMO we need to reorganize the front page a bit more than that.
Namely:
-- the big Navigation box is wasted space, because
1. It contains items everybody expects as a left-hand menu
2. Contains no real content
-- while pretty,
Andreas Mohr wrote:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 03:07:15PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On October 31, 2002 03:00 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Not yet too late for another 'Halloween' release though ;)
Yep...
...next year ! ;)
I don't want to jinx it, but at the rate we're going, we'd be
lucky
Once we have that we need to make sure we have suitable defaults to
allow running at least the drives/paths control panel without registry
files at all. We also need the Wine dlls to register themselves
instead of having to merge winedefault.reg by hand. Then it should be
possible to write a
On October 31, 2002 05:05 pm, Jeremy Newman wrote:
Oh pick ME ME ME! :-)
OK mister, you're on! :)
IMO we need to reorganize the front page a bit more than that.
That's a little more than a weekend of work.
Here's what I will do. I will start a new design, I will put it up at:
Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Dimitrie O. Paun writes:
So the 5% left, install wine, install a Win-app, and play around.
Great, it works!
You forgot a few things here:
First it doesn't even start because they don't have a config file. OK,
they copy one from somewhere, it doesn't work because
On October 31, 2002 11:47 pm, Jeremy Newman wrote:
Here's what I will do. I will start a new design, I will put it up at:
http://lostwages.winehq.org. A very rough draft of the home page alone with
new nav should be online late (very very late) sunday night, pending real
life (TM) does not
On October 31, 2002 07:00 pm, Francois Gouget wrote:
This is a good start. Here are my comments, based on
the following principles:
-- while I appreciate (as a geek) the logical nesting
of topics, I think they should be organized
more around usage patterns. A common topic should
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On October 31, 2002 11:47 pm, Jeremy Newman wrote:
Here's what I will do. I will start a new design, I will put it up at:
http://lostwages.winehq.org. A very rough draft of the home page alone with
new nav should be online late (very very late)
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