Re: What is a leap second

2002-10-30 Thread György 'Nog' Jeney
György, could you check which other includes can be used if winternl.h is absent? Else youll probably have to wait for somebody which has it to compile your test. This is included in the latest platform SDK but it should also be defined in ntddk.h. Ok, could somene rather compile this

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ender wrote: - Getting the right set of dlloverrides and registry entries correct for a large portion of software is irritating. Most of this comes down to the lack of WINE being able to dynamically run RunOnce and wininit.ini entries. Doing this manually is far beyond your average user

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Jaco Greeff
Dimi, For somebody with a sore hand, you type an amazing amount. I seem to have caught your my-right-hand-is-hurting bug. Well, actually it is my arm - utterly useless at anything at present, altough I can type if I position it at exactly the right angle... I think everybody here agrees that

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Jaco Greeff
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Where do I get reboot.so to have a look? Either that, or can someone answer a few questions regarding it? If we ask CodeWeavers nicely, I'm sure they might be willing to donate the reboot stuff? Otherwise you will just be re-inventing the wheel. Greetings, Jaco

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Martin Wilck
You need good understanding of Windows system calls plus Linux coding experience - a difficult combination to find. IMO one is enough to get started. Solid Linux experience + access to MSDN gives a you good start. I had no Windows programming experience whatsoever before I started working

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Rick Romero
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 00:12, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: Why are we in this position? For reasons I will not go into right now, it seems painfully obvious to me that we are suffering from a severe case of Bad Public Image (tm). Whenever I talk to people not intimately familiar with Wine, about

Re: What is a leap second

2002-10-30 Thread György 'Nog' Jeney
with the following output on win2k. 9 0 10 0 9 10 This is weird, I would have expected to get an output like: 2002 10 27 8 9 10 with the followingo patch applied... nog. Index: dlls/ntdll/time.c === RCS file:

Re: Testing Applications

2002-10-30 Thread Tony Lambregts
Kye Lewis wrote: Hi, I've done a lot of testing different applications that I have (and checking on their progress with new wine versions) and I was wondering: Should I report every application that doesn't work as a separate bug? Yes, a seperate bug report for each program is nessesary.

Testing Applications

2002-10-30 Thread Kye Lewis
Hi, I've done a lot of testing different applications that I have (and checking on their progress with new wine versions) and I was wondering: Should I report every application that doesn't work as a separate bug? Thanks, Kye Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Greg Turner
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 12:57 am, Ender wrote: - No users, because of two things: - Many apps do not work without Desktop enabled. This is far worse than it sounds, because most newbies try managed non-desktop first. People think WINE should be able to do seemless intergration.

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Andreas Mohr
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 07:08:08AM -0600, Rick Romero wrote: I would love to convert my desktops to Linux + Wine, but one 'little' thing keeps nagging at me (even if my apps did work perfectly). I haven't seen it uttered in a while, but the phrase, Wine is ALPHA software sticks in my head.

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Andreas Mohr
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 12:21:51PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Ender wrote: - Getting the right set of dlloverrides and registry entries correct for a large portion of software is irritating. Most of this comes down to the lack of WINE being able to dynamically run RunOnce and

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Tony Lambregts
Rick Romero wrote: On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 00:12, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: Why are we in this position? For reasons I will not go into right now, it seems painfully obvious to me that we are suffering from a severe case of Bad Public Image (tm). Whenever I talk to people not intimately familiar

Re: PATCH: ppc fix 2

2002-10-30 Thread Greg Turner
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 07:22 am, Marcus Meissner wrote: Hi, Just a bad macro. ciao, marcus Changelog: Fixed LITTLE_ENDIAN_32_READ macro to at least compile. Index: ndr_marshall.c === RCS file:

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Ian Pilcher
Ender wrote: - No developers, because of two other issues: Don't forget our friend, the Win32 API. Most people with an incentive to work on Wine are familiar with C, POSIX, etc. The first time they look at Win32 code, the get a splitting headache and decide it's not worth it. People who

Re: PATCH: ppc fix 2

2002-10-30 Thread Greg Turner
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 07:22 am, Marcus Meissner wrote: Hi, Just a bad macro. ciao, marcus Changelog: Fixed LITTLE_ENDIAN_32_READ macro to at least compile. Index: ndr_marshall.c === RCS file:

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Uwe Bonnes
Ian == Ian Pilcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ian Ender wrote: - No developers, because of two other issues: Ian Don't forget our friend, the Win32 API. Most people with an Ian incentive to work on Wine are familiar with C, POSIX, etc. The Ian first time they look at Win32

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On October 30, 2002 08:56 am, Andreas Mohr wrote: Thus you could encounter an app which manages to trash your whole filesystem ANY DAY; this app simply needs to use a very rarely used function that we barely implemented... BOOM. Andy, this is just crap, and it's the type of crap that we should

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Rick Romero
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 07:56, Andreas Mohr wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 07:08:08AM -0600, Rick Romero wrote: I would love to convert my desktops to Linux + Wine, but one 'little' thing keeps nagging at me (even if my apps did work perfectly). I haven't seen it uttered in a while, but the

Re: PATCH: ppc fix 2

2002-10-30 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 07:56:10AM -0600, Greg Turner wrote: On Wednesday 30 October 2002 07:22 am, Marcus Meissner wrote: Hi, Just a bad macro. ciao, marcus Changelog: Fixed LITTLE_ENDIAN_32_READ macro to at least compile. Index: ndr_marshall.c

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Andreas Mohr
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 10:00:08AM -0400, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: On October 30, 2002 08:56 am, Andreas Mohr wrote: Thus you could encounter an app which manages to trash your whole filesystem ANY DAY; this app simply needs to use a very rarely used function that we barely implemented...

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On October 30, 2002 09:20 am, Andreas Mohr wrote: I don't want to spread the perception that Wine is unsafe - in by far almost all cases it's definitely not. But people should keep in mind that for every new program that they install, there might still be a bug lurking in some rarely used

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Ender
- No users, because of two things: - Many apps do not work without Desktop enabled. This is far worse than it sounds, because most newbies try managed non-desktop first. People think WINE should be able to do seemless intergration. Then when an application hangs, they think it's

EMF bug

2002-10-30 Thread doome
Hi! I am not sure if this is a bug, or I did something wrong. My collegaues made a little program what shows the bug. It shows an EMF file, but the text boxes appears bad. Two screenshots and the source are included in the tar.gz. Please somebody examine it, and help me if you can. The source,

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Andreas Mohr wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 12:21:51PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Ender wrote: - Getting the right set of dlloverrides and registry entries correct for a large portion of software is irritating. Most of this comes down to the lack of WINE being able to dynamically

Re: RPC test code?

2002-10-30 Thread Greg Turner
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 07:21 am, Greg Turner wrote: On Monday 28 October 2002 04:56 am, Jürgen Schmied wrote: 2a) Should the rpc.c real test be the client or the server? I can imagine races either way. Let's say rpc.c is the client. Why not let one process start both (client

Re: EMF bug

2002-10-30 Thread Mike McCormack
Hi, We've done alot of work on EMF files in the Crossover tree. Specifically, if an EMF used SetWindowExtEx and SetViewportExtEx, it was busted. That work will be merged into WineHQ in the near future. Hopefully that will solve the problem. Mike doome wrote: Hi! I am not sure if this is a

EMF bug?

2002-10-30 Thread Domsodi Gergely
Hi! I am not sure if this is a bug, or I did something wrong. My collegaues made a little program what shows the bug. It shows an EMF file, but the text boxes appears bad. Two screenshots and the source are included in the tar.gz. Please somebody examine it, and help me if you can. The source,

Re: PATCH: ppc fix 2

2002-10-30 Thread Greg Turner
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 07:22 am, Marcus Meissner wrote: Fixed LITTLE_ENDIAN_32_READ macro to at least compile. btw, this seems to imply that even with the parentheses fix, it's still not right... is that the case? You seem like somebody who's up on PPC issues. Note that this is

Re: What is a leap second

2002-10-30 Thread Peter Ekberg
Hello! I compiled the following using msvc: --8--- #include stdio.h #include windows.h typedef short CSHORT; typedef struct { CSHORT Year; CSHORT Month; CSHORT Day; CSHORT Hour; CSHORT Minute; CSHORT Second;

Re: RPC test code?

2002-10-30 Thread Martin Wilck
Am Mit, 2002-10-30 um 16.43 schrieb Greg Turner: Actually, I was leaning towards the idea of having the test program itself be both client and server... but AFAIK there is no wine-compatible way to fork()..? Why don't you just use CreateThread()? I am doing this for the winsock tests and it

GetComputerName() question

2002-10-30 Thread Martin Wilck
Why is GetComputerName() an init function, or in other words, why is it important that HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Control\\ComputerName\\ComputerName be set at registry initialization time (in _allocate_default_keys())? I am asking because GetComputerName() IMO returns the

Re: RPC test code?

2002-10-30 Thread Greg Turner
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 11:00 am, Martin Wilck wrote: Am Mit, 2002-10-30 um 16.43 schrieb Greg Turner: Actually, I was leaning towards the idea of having the test program itself be both client and server... but AFAIK there is no wine-compatible way to fork()..? Why don't you just use

SetWindowHookEx

2002-10-30 Thread steve . lustbader
My app uses SetWindowHookEx to install a WH_KEYBOARD_LL hook. Currently, the wine implementation tells me fixme:hook:set_windows_hook system hook WH_KEYBOARD_LL won't work right when I try to use it. I'd like to implement this so I can get my app to run, but I'm not sure where to start, since I

listview: last column problem

2002-10-30 Thread Rein Klazes
Dimitri, The missing last column in newsbin seems to be caused by this line: | if (!lpColumn || nColumn 0 || nColumn infoPtr-hdpaColumns-nItemCount) |return -1; | ^ removing the marked part of the test result in

Re: listview: last column problem

2002-10-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On October 30, 2002 02:01 pm, Rein Klazes wrote: Do you see any objections removing the test and error message? Good catch. Please try this patch: Index: dlls/comctl32/listview.c === RCS file:

Re: SetWindowHookEx

2002-10-30 Thread steve . lustbader
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My app uses SetWindowHookEx to install a WH_KEYBOARD_LL hook. Currently, the wine implementation tells me fixme:hook:set_windows_hook system hook WH_KEYBOARD_LL won't work right when I try to use it. I'd like to implement this so I can get my app to run, but I'm

Re: GetComputerName() question

2002-10-30 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Martin Wilck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am asking because GetComputerName() IMO returns the wrong value (FQDN rather than NETBIOS name). A real implementation of GetComputerName() would look for the above value in the Registry and use gethostname() only as a fallback, but currently it's the

Re: listview: last column problem

2002-10-30 Thread Rein Klazes
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:21:13 -0500, you wrote: On October 30, 2002 02:01 pm, Rein Klazes wrote: Do you see any objections removing the test and error message? Good catch. Please try this patch: Index: dlls/comctl32/listview.c

Re: SetWindowHookEx

2002-10-30 Thread Alexandre Julliard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My app uses SetWindowHookEx to install a WH_KEYBOARD_LL hook. Currently, the wine implementation tells me fixme:hook:set_windows_hook system hook WH_KEYBOARD_LL won't work right when I try to use it. I'd like to implement this so I can get my app to run, but I'm

Re: What is a leap second

2002-10-30 Thread Peter Ekberg
with the following output on win2k. 9 0 10 0 9 10 This is weird, I would have expected to get an output like: 2002 10 27 8 9 10 with the followingo patch applied... nog. Eeek, sorry about that. I forgot a WINAPI in the typedef, see my new version in the attachment... The following

Re: SetWindowHookEx

2002-10-30 Thread Alexandre Julliard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's returning NULL for me, which implies it isn't working. Is there some sort of trace that I can send you to help you out? Oops you are right, this should fix it: Index: server/hook.c === RCS file:

Re: Treeview Notifications Fix (update)

2002-10-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On October 30, 2002 03:34 pm, Dustin Navea wrote: Well after some more debugging, I think that it is a problem with the SendMessageA function itself, not with any of the arguments being passed to it. I think you are chasing the wrong problem... -- Dimi.

XBox

2002-10-30 Thread Dirk
Could someone do something to make the need for this hardware disappear and save the world of people who love proprietrary video game consoles? There is already a tool that converts xpe files into exe. Only the bios and the improved DirectX must be re-engineered and the rest will be done by a

Treeview Notifications Fix (update)

2002-10-30 Thread Dustin Navea
--- Dustin Navea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everyone, after about 3 hours of adding traces to treeview.c, I have found the line that is causing all of my headaches! in /wine/dlls/comctl32/treeview.c: in function TREEVIEW_NOTIFYFORMAT i = SendMessageA(GetParent (infoPtr-hwnd),

Re: splitting msvideo/msvfw32

2002-10-30 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Eric Pouech [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: +case DLL_PROCESS_ATTACH: +if (!GetModuleHandleA(MSVFW32.DLL) !LoadLibraryA(MSVFW32.DLL)) +{ +ERR(Could not load sibling MSVfW32.dll\n); +return FALSE; +} Note that this is not necessary. The 32-bit

Re: rpc_H_PL1

2002-10-30 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Greg Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: diff -ur -x CVS -x 'bigdif*' ../wine.test/dlls/rpcrt4/rpc_binding.c ./dlls/rpcrt4/rpc_binding.c --- ../wine.test/dlls/rpcrt4/rpc_binding.c2002-10-29 12:59:02.0 -0600 +++ ./dlls/rpcrt4/rpc_binding.c 2002-10-29 13:28:39.0 -0600 @@

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Francois Gouget
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Keith Matthews wrote: [...] Stressing the number of calls in the MS API is another important point to make, thanks to Andreas for providing an updated figure. For more API stats you can check out the following page (and disclaimer):

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On October 30, 2002 01:57 am, Ender wrote: - Many apps do not work without Desktop enabled. This is far worse than it sounds, because most newbies try managed non-desktop first. People think WINE should be able to do seemless intergration. Then when an application hangs, they think it's

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On October 30, 2002 04:50 pm, Lionel Ulmer wrote: I wholeheartedly disagree here.. I only use (and only ever will) use Desktop mode in Wine. It's the same (for me) as using Tabbed browsing in Mozilla : you have all the related mess in one window :-) Sorry Lionel, but You Are Wrong (tm)! :) By

No more Office 11 for Win98/ME

2002-10-30 Thread Uwe Bonnes
Hallo, e.g. on www.heise.de there is the news that MS announces to drop support for Win98/ME for the next office version. That's probably a point in time when many people will look for alternatives. Hopefully Wine and Linux are in good shape then. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes[EMAIL

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Lionel Ulmer
IMO desktop mode exists only because our integration is not very good. It should die sooner, rather than later, it's just a big hack. So we should rather focus on getting apps to work in non-desktop more, rather then resurrecting the silly desktop option. I wholeheartedly disagree here.. I

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Francois Gouget
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: On October 30, 2002 01:57 am, Ender wrote: - Many apps do not work without Desktop enabled. This is far worse than it sounds, because most newbies try managed non-desktop first. People think WINE should be able to do seemless intergration.

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Uwe Bonnes
Dimitrie == Dimitrie O Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dimitrie On October 30, 2002 01:57 am, Ender wrote: - Many apps do not work without Desktop enabled. This is far worse than it sounds, because most newbies try managed non-desktop first. People think WINE should be able to

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Lionel Ulmer
That I understand. But still the fucntionallity does not belong in Wine. You should start a new desktop environment around Wine (say WDE), just like Qt, and GTK have their own DEs. Well, yes, if I wanted to ONLY use Windows applications I could do something like that. But a part from using

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Lionel Ulmer
An app, is an app, is an app. I don't give a flying !#$ if it's a Qt, Gtk, Python, Perl, Java, Wine, wxWindows, you-name-it app. I don't want every toolkit, library, etc. to invent their own universe with their own little desktop. It would be crazy. You feel the need to group apps to cleanup

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On October 30, 2002 05:12 pm, Lionel Ulmer wrote: For me, running 'explorer' (or whatever is called the Windows WM) in a desktopped Windows session and actually have the 'Start' button in the lower right corner of the window to start Windows applications would be the way I would prefer running

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On October 30, 2002 05:05 pm, Uwe Bonnes wrote: - any program in non-desktop mode switching to full screen - any application poping up endless series of new processes This focuses on the wrong problem. A Wine app is just that: an app. If this is a problem, the WM must allow you to deal with

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On October 30, 2002 05:01 pm, Francois Gouget wrote: I think desktop mode is useful in some circumstances like when you want to prevent an application from taking over the whole screen (typically installers or the PowerPoint viewer). While it may be useful in strange circumstances, it's not

Is it me or is winedbg --debugmsg -all not honored

2002-10-30 Thread Uwe Bonnes
Hallo, did I miss something or is it me or is the registry entry ( as advertised in winedefaults.reg) [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AeDebug] Debugger=winedbg --debugmsg -all %ld %ld not honored any more ( since some time). The relay log is cluttered with

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On October 30, 2002 05:27 pm, Lionel Ulmer wrote: Well, yes, if I wanted to ONLY use Windows applications I could do something like that. But a part from using Xnest or hacks like that (VNC comes to my mind too) I do not see how I could do what I want to do without support in Wine itself. So

Re: rpc_H_PL1

2002-10-30 Thread Greg Turner
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 03:01 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote: Greg Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: diff -ur -x CVS -x 'bigdif*' ../wine.test/dlls/rpcrt4/rpc_binding.c ./dlls/rpcrt4/rpc_binding.c --- ../wine.test/dlls/rpcrt4/rpc_binding.c 2002-10-29 12:59:02.0 -0600 +++

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread David Laight
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 05:27:48PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: On October 30, 2002 05:01 pm, Francois Gouget wrote: I think desktop mode is useful in some circumstances like when you want to prevent an application from taking over the whole screen (typically installers or the PowerPoint

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Lionel Ulmer
So you consider Xnest and VNC hacks, but Wine's desktop mode OK?!? This is very strange, in the Unix spirit I would have thought those are the right approach for what you want to accomplish (pseudo-virtual machine). Well, I said 'hacks' because for VNC it's not really what it was meant to do

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Tony Lambregts
Uwe Bonnes wrote: Dimitrie == Dimitrie O Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dimitrie On October 30, 2002 01:57 am, Ender wrote: - Many apps do not work without Desktop enabled. This is far worse than it sounds, because most newbies try managed non-desktop first. People

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On October 30, 2002 09:11 am, Uwe Bonnes wrote: think of Win32 as a user library, just like Motif or QT. So the thing of beauty ( or missing beauty) gets relative... Very good point. This is another angle I wanted to approach: we are currently perceived by some as a 'evil thing' which allows

Re: Is it me or is winedbg --debugmsg -all not honored

2002-10-30 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Uwe Bonnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: did I miss something or is it me or is the registry entry ( as advertised in winedefaults.reg) [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AeDebug] Debugger=winedbg --debugmsg -all %ld %ld not honored any more ( since some time).

Re: XBox

2002-10-30 Thread Chris Thielen
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 12:10, Dirk wrote: Could someone do something to make the need for this hardware disappear and save the world of people who love proprietrary video game consoles? There is already a tool that converts xpe files into exe. Only the bios and the improved DirectX must be

Debugging advice

2002-10-30 Thread Matthew Bloch
Hi there; I feel like I'm nearly there with porting this game to run with winelib, a version checked out from winehq CVS about a week ago. Because I wanted my build system to be cross-platform, and WINE only as a stop-gap, I'm using the Jam build system and so can't directly take advantage of

richedit

2002-10-30 Thread Michael Stefaniuc
Hello, is somebody working on the richedit dll? I encountered 3 unknown RTF control words and wanted to add them but I got scared by the overzealous use of #define's in rtf.h . My first impuls was exchange that with some enum's, but i thought i better ask here before i do the work in vain. bye

Re: Debugging advice

2002-10-30 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Matthew Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: $WINE/tools/winebuild/winebuild \ -fPIC -DSTRICT -D_REENTRANT \ -exe LSNClient.exe -mgui Builds/native-debug-linux/Source/*.o \ -L$WINE/dlls -luser32 -lgdi32 -ladvapi32 -lkernel32 -lddraw -ldsound \ -lwinmm -ldisplay -ldispdib

Re: Debugging advice

2002-10-30 Thread Matthew Bloch
On Thursday 31 October 2002 01:14, you wrote: Matthew Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: $WINE/tools/winebuild/winebuild \ -fPIC -DSTRICT -D_REENTRANT \ -exe LSNClient.exe -mgui Builds/native-debug-linux/Source/*.o \ -L$WINE/dlls -luser32 -lgdi32 -ladvapi32 -lkernel32 -lddraw -ldsound

Re: richedit

2002-10-30 Thread Francois Gouget
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Michael Stefaniuc wrote: Hello, is somebody working on the richedit dll? I encountered 3 unknown RTF control words and wanted to add them but I got scared by the overzealous use of #define's in rtf.h . My first impuls was exchange that with some enum's, but i thought i

Re: Debugging advice

2002-10-30 Thread Francois Gouget
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Matthew Bloch wrote: [...] There are basically no efficiency gains, there is no overhead in running a PE exe compared to a native one. Okay, but presumably it's easier (as in not impossible!) for me to debug a program with GDB if I'm using a elf binary as opposed to a

Re: richedit

2002-10-30 Thread Vincent Béron
Le mer 30/10/2002 à 20:44, Francois Gouget a écrit : On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Michael Stefaniuc wrote: Hello, is somebody working on the richedit dll? I encountered 3 unknown RTF control words and wanted to add them but I got scared by the overzealous use of #define's in rtf.h . My first

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Ender
Well, you and I seem to have very different opinion on Wine. For you, it's a way to run a particular application. For me, it's like a virtual PC running Windows on my Linux box (ie more like a VMWare or a terminal server / Metaframe approach). *cough* Wine Is Not an Emulator :) - Ender

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On October 30, 2002 10:34 pm, Jeremy White wrote: However, I strongly agree with Lionel - since we have desktop mode, we should keep it as an option. Free software is all about choice. Yes, but that choice does not refer to to the choice of cramming every feature together. :) Virtually all

Re: Versions mass-appeal

2002-10-30 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you are really big on the VM idea (why, beats me), we should separate that functionality out as a winedesktop executable. Don't tell anyone, but that's exactly how the desktop option will have to be implemented to work with multiple processes. --

So lets say we do it

2002-10-30 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
That is, Lets assume for the sake of argument that Alexandre likes my 0.8 idea so much, that he releases Wine 0.8 with much fanfare next Monday (so we have a good audience), and the news reaches Slashdot where a message with a link to http://www.winehq.org is posted, in good CmdrTaco fashion...