Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-18 Thread Reece Dunn
2009/4/18 Joel Holdsworth j...@airwebreathe.org.uk: We do support transparency. Fancy alpha blending effects might not work but this should work I think. It might depend on the file type which was used and perhaps the setting of a color key in a palette (look for other wine apps which uses,

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-18 Thread André Hentschel
Hi, thanks for your work, its great. i just patch my wine with it ;) The only negativ point would be the color for me. i rather would see it in Windowsyellow just to keep a bit of the look and feel. Joel Holdsworth schrieb: Hi, Apologies if you've already read this - I've been having trouble

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-18 Thread King InuYasha
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Scott Ritchie sc...@open-vote.org wrote: Scott Ritchie wrote: Meanwhile, I'll try drumming up some artists to see if I can get a few different Tango-compliant icons for us to chose from. Apparently my work has already been done! There are some beautiful

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-18 Thread Ben Klein
2009/4/18 King InuYasha ngomp...@gmail.com: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Scott Ritchie sc...@open-vote.org wrote: Scott Ritchie wrote: Meanwhile, I'll try drumming up some artists to see if I can get a few different Tango-compliant icons for us to chose from. Apparently my work has

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-18 Thread Reece Dunn
2009/4/18 Ben Klein shackl...@gmail.com: 2009/4/18 Reece Dunn mscl...@googlemail.com: Yeah, AlphaBlending is not supported (hence the diagonals look jagged) -- theming is also affected. NOTE: I have seen this happen on other Windows apps running on Windows. You need to have the image support

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-18 Thread Joel Holdsworth
Making the icon(s) configurable would be a bonus. Yes I'm not this will be possible in the first instance, because icons have to be compiled into the DLL resources at compile time. In the long run, it might be possible for some of our dialogs to use theme icons instead, but we'll still need a

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-18 Thread Joel Holdsworth
From: http://www.telegraphics.com.au/svn/icoformat/trunk/dist/README.html The ICO format has an inherent 1 bit transparency mask (0 = opaque, 1 = transparent), called the AND bitmap. which is the older format icon. and: In PNG (Vista) format icons, the alpha channel is simply stored

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-18 Thread Igor Tarasov
2009/4/18 Joel Holdsworth j...@airwebreathe.org.uk: Yes I'm not this will be possible in the first instance, because icons have to be compiled into the DLL resources at compile time. In the long run, it might be possible for some of our dialogs to use theme icons instead, but we'll still need

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-18 Thread Roderick Colenbrander
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Joel Holdsworth j...@airwebreathe.org.uk wrote: Making the icon(s) configurable would be a bonus. Yes I'm not this will be possible in the first instance, because icons have to be compiled into the DLL resources at compile time. In the long run, it might be

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-17 Thread Scott Ritchie
Ben Klein wrote: 2009/4/17 Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: The Ubuntu Studio logos look fine. I'd be happy with adopting them if they really make Wine fit in better with modern desktops. No need to wait for 1.2, just

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-17 Thread André Hentschel
Austin English schrieb: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: The Ubuntu Studio logos look fine. I'd be happy with adopting them if they really make Wine fit in better with modern desktops. No need to wait for 1.2, just check 'em in now, 1.2 will be along soon

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-17 Thread Joel Holdsworth
I've just heard some good news on the Tango list. The Tango icons are now public domain, which makes using them a much easier proposition. I might see if I can improve the state of the shell32 icons at some stage. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-17 Thread Reece Dunn
2009/4/17 David Lee Lambert dav...@lmert.com: On Thursday 16 April 2009 20:19, Ben Klein wrote: 2009/4/17 Scott Ritchie sc...@open-vote.org: A user submitted a bug report to launchpad complaining that the Wine icon is not Tango compliant: [...] In short, it means the Wine icon looks very

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-17 Thread David Lee Lambert
On Thursday 16 April 2009 20:19, Ben Klein wrote: 2009/4/17 Scott Ritchie sc...@open-vote.org: A user submitted a bug report to launchpad complaining that the Wine icon is not Tango compliant: [...] In short, it means the Wine icon looks very out of place [...] In short, it's ugly,

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-17 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/17 Scott Ritchie sc...@open-vote.org: http://yokozar.org/blog/content/icons/wine.svg Oh, that's nice! Pity it's not tilted - I think of the Wine logo as being tilted. I assume there's something in the Tango guidelines against that? - d.

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-17 Thread Igor Tarasov
2009/4/17 David Lee Lambert dav...@lmert.com: Sure, it might look out-of-place, but Windows applications are somewhat out-of-place on Linux.  It's very ugliness probably makes it easier to find. The problem is, IMHO, that lately windows applications have got pretty nice icons. But wine icon

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-17 Thread Roderick Colenbrander
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Joel Holdsworth j...@airwebreathe.org.uk wrote: Hi, Apologies if you've already read this - I've been having trouble getting the message to go through. I just had a play around with Tango-ifying Wine. The end result was quite pleasing. There aren't too many

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-17 Thread Warren Dumortier
2009/4/17 Roderick Colenbrander thunderbir...@gmail.com: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Joel Holdsworth j...@airwebreathe.org.uk wrote: Hi, Apologies if you've already read this - I've been having trouble getting the message to go through. I just had a play around with Tango-ifying Wine.

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-17 Thread Roderick Colenbrander
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Warren Dumortier nwarre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/17 Roderick Colenbrander thunderbir...@gmail.com: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Joel Holdsworth j...@airwebreathe.org.uk wrote: Hi, Apologies if you've already read this - I've been having trouble

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-17 Thread Joel Holdsworth
We do support transparency. Fancy alpha blending effects might not work but this should work I think. It might depend on the file type which was used and perhaps the setting of a color key in a palette (look for other wine apps which uses, some of them must be using transparency). Further

Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-16 Thread Scott Ritchie
A user submitted a bug report to launchpad complaining that the Wine icon is not Tango compliant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/358645 So, what is Tango Compliance? Well, the Tango icons all use a set of design standards, and you can find them here:

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-16 Thread Joel Holdsworth
I mentioned this issue before - and I agree. Personally I'm interested in good integration across the whole of Wine - this includes for example the icons which appear in the file dialogs. ReactOS have adopted Tango to great effect. The downside is that there's really no way of making Wine's icons

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-16 Thread Ben Klein
2009/4/17 Scott Ritchie sc...@open-vote.org: A user submitted a bug report to launchpad complaining that the Wine icon is not Tango compliant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/358645 So, what is Tango Compliance?  Well, the Tango icons all use a set of design standards,

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-16 Thread Remco
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Ben Klein shackl...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like a lot of fuss over a few trivial details: 1) The Wine system icon is ugly (I'm all in favour of changing it, but you make a BIG fuss over it) 2) If the icon is changed, it should be done in time for Ubuntu 9.10.

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-16 Thread Scott Ritchie
Scott Ritchie wrote: Meanwhile, I'll try drumming up some artists to see if I can get a few different Tango-compliant icons for us to chose from. Apparently my work has already been done! There are some beautiful icons originally made for Ubuntu Studio that have give me everything I asked

re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-16 Thread Dan Kegel
The Ubuntu Studio logos look fine. I'd be happy with adopting them if they really make Wine fit in better with modern desktops. No need to wait for 1.2, just check 'em in now, 1.2 will be along soon enough.

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-16 Thread Austin English
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: The Ubuntu Studio logos look fine. I'd be happy with adopting them if they really make Wine fit in better with modern desktops.  No need to wait for 1.2, just check 'em in now, 1.2 will be along soon enough. +1 -- -Austin

Re: Icons, logos, Tango, consistency, the user experience, and our project looks like a 2D champaign flute

2009-04-16 Thread Ben Klein
2009/4/17 Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: The Ubuntu Studio logos look fine. I'd be happy with adopting them if they really make Wine fit in better with modern desktops.  No need to wait for 1.2, just check 'em in now,