[WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Mike
I have learned a lot from this list. I think there is some real talent lurking here. We all have discovered certain things which just make life as a WISP easier. I think it would be beneficial to list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a description and use of

Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I don't Steve. But think of it like an echo. You get that first, clear signal coming in, laser straight. Then at some point shortly after that you start getting the reflections. If there are too many of them, and/or they are at the wrong time the radio will get confused. G SHOULD handle

Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Speaking of longer links. I see people run the same size antennas on all of their installs far too often. I've seen 19dB panels on links that can't be less than 10 to 12 miles. I see 24dB grids on 1 mile links. Here is my rule of thumb. It'll have to change based on YOUR hardware etc. I'm

Re: [WISPA] Simultaneous connections

2009-10-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I use an MT unit at my house for my personal connection. marlon - Original Message - From: Al Stewart stewa...@westcreston.ca To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Simultaneous connections Thanks Tom ... I know some of

Re: [WISPA] Ideas on Police Department Wireless Link from Station toCruiser

2009-10-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We've worked with Butch to design a mobile MT system. It'll roam from tower to tower, even use the open linksys, netgear, etc. systems. Handles all of the IP address issues on the fly. Short outages only when moving from one tower to the next. It's not working perfectly for us yet, but we

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-18 Thread Tom DeReggi
Brad, First, I was being Facetious , I thought that would have been obvious. Second, Forgive the generalized steriotypic comment, as I did not mean to bundle all property managers/ owner into the same class. Many property Owners do get it, and we embrace their allegience and we work with them

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yeah, those are awesome. I wish they had shielded connectors as well. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have I have learned a lot from this list. I think

Re: [WISPA] [FCC Committee] sub 3.7 gig spectrum, comments needed was -- Re: FCC Chairman JuliusGenachowskiAnnouncesSeniorStaff for Development of NationalBroadband Plan

2009-10-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
- Original Message - From: Stephen Coran sco...@rinicoran.com To: fcccommit...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:13 AM Subject: Re: [FCC Committee] sub 3.7 gig spectrum,comments needed was -- Re: FCC Chairman

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Frank Crawford
They do. http://www.telephoneparts.com/index.cgi?pcode=PLT-100020-010placement=1 Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Yeah, those are awesome. I wish they had shielded connectors as well. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Robert West
Like a sticky? Maybe. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have I have learned a lot from this list. I think there is some real

Re: [WISPA] Ideas on Police Department Wireless Link from Stationto Cruiser

2009-10-18 Thread Robert West
I'm with you on that. I take most any opportunity to do a trade when we can both benefit from it. I want to use the water tower and they want a wireless link. In the long run, the use of the tower will surpass the value of that link. Their short term savings is my long term gain.

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Use the WISPNet Wiki? On 10/18/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Like a sticky? Maybe. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 10:02 AM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Click login then forgot password. On 10/18/09, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: I was going to suggest that. Wanted to look at the Wiki first, but can not remember my login. Where do I go to find/reset login information? Josh Luthman wrote: Use the WISPNet Wiki? On 10/18/09,

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Mike
They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050 Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote: Yeah, those are awesome. I wish they had shielded connectors as well. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Travis Johnson
These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my installers... but $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would cost me an extra $200 per month just in connectors. :( Travis Microserv Mike wrote: They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050 Look further down the list at:

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Josh Luthman
At 200/mo you'd need at least one more customer per month. Don't see this happening by speeding up rj45 connectors. On 10/18/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my installers... but $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Josh Luthman
At 200/mo you'd need at least one more customer per month. Don't see this happening by speeding up rj45 connectors. On 10/18/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my installers... but $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would

Re: [WISPA] Simultaneous connections

2009-10-18 Thread John J. Thomas
FWIW, Cisco 871's will route wirespeed at 100 megabits/sec, but can only firewall/NAT/VPN at 25 megabits/sec. John -Original Message- From: Al Stewart [mailto:stewa...@westcreston.ca] Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 03:05 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Simultaneous

Re: [WISPA] Ideas on Police Department Wireless Link from Stationto Cruiser

2009-10-18 Thread John J. Thomas
If you are working with law enforcement, they generraly need FIPs compliance on anything that touches their network. John -Original Message- From: Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com] Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:05 PM To: lakel...@gbcx.net, ''WISPA General List''

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Tom DeReggi
But you're missing the point. Yeah, Its definately not worth it, for those that can use the standard CAT5s effectively. But your math assumes that they can, and not considering the other costs. The ROI is NOT on the time saved comparing successful installs, comparing both types. The ROI is on

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread 3-dB Networks
I strongly recommend this cable because I think it helps a lot telling if you got the right color wire in the right hole. Sometimes finding that stripe on the white can be difficult: http://tinyurl.com/ygxeywo Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Phil Curnutt
I don't care how much they cost. One crimp, gone. Phil On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote: I strongly recommend this cable because I think it helps a lot telling if you got the right color wire in the right hole. Sometimes finding that stripe on the white

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Robert West
I agree. At 50 cents, the aggravation saved is worth it. Anything to lessen the B.S. of life has value, in my opinion. I have issues too with the eyesight, I have to look at the things with a magnifying glass sometimes to make sure the wires are seated all the way. -Original

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Mike
I gotta agree. One other nice thing with the EZRJ45 system is because the wires stick out the end of the plug as far as you want. You can verify the order, or pull them out and push them back in. THEN, you can grab the excess and pull until the jacket is as far up the plug as possible, THEN

[WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Mike
what: wonderpole 40' fiberglass push up pole where: http://www.wonderpole.com/wp640_630.html why:It is easy to take a telescoping pole to a site survey and put a panel up in air for testing. I don't push mine out to 40' often, and not for long, but regularly push it up 26' or so to do a

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Scott Reed
That is what I expected, but I don't see a forgot link. Josh Luthman wrote: Click login then forgot password. On 10/18/09, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: I was going to suggest that. Wanted to look at the Wiki first, but can not remember my login. Where do I go to

Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-18 Thread RickG
I fixed a nasty multipath issue for one of my subs by using a yagi. Here are some good sources for info: http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/1121691 www.crystalcomltd.com/...whitepapers/124102032509Berkeley_Multipath.pdf http://www.rfengineer.net/1171/rf-basics-multipath/

Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-18 Thread Mike
Rick: Why did it solve the problem? Better side lobe attenuation? 'Splain Lucy. Mike At 08:42 PM 10/18/2009, you wrote: I fixed a nasty multipath issue for one of my subs by using a yagi. Here are some good sources for info: http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/1121691

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Been a long time since I screwed one up. I don't do too many soo... On 10/18/09, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: That is what I expected, but I don't see a forgot link. Josh Luthman wrote: Click login then forgot password. On 10/18/09, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net

Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have

2009-10-18 Thread Mike
I did the same thing. But, it won't even let you look at the Wiki unless you're logged in. But I think you can check the always keep me logged in box and be automatically logged in. At least until you delete cookies? Rick Harnish forwarded my request on to Rick in Accounting :-)

Re: [WISPA] New install driving me crazy....

2009-10-18 Thread RickG
Because yagi antenna concentrates the forward radiation and response. -Lucy :) On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Rick: Why did it solve the problem? Better side lobe attenuation?  'Splain Lucy. Mike At 08:42 PM 10/18/2009, you wrote: I fixed a nasty multipath

Re: [WISPA] Ideas on Police Department Wireless Link from StationtoCruiser

2009-10-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd imagine IPSEC would solve that. I haven't looked at it, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 12:48 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] sub 3.7 gig spectrum, comments needed was -- Re: [FCC Committee] FCC ChairmanJulius Genachowski AnnouncesSeniorStaff for Development ofNational Broadband Plan

2009-10-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Can they even do anything without someone requesting it? Can't get it if you don't ask for it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Friday, October 16,

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-18 Thread Mike Hammett
100 meg is quite prevalent in Scandinavia and 1 gig is spreading. A 1 meg guarantee isn't much of anything there. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Ideas on Police Department Wireless Link from Station to Cruiser

2009-10-18 Thread Mike Hammett
So in your described system, does it just use a single VPN link or multiple? I was thinking of your system before this thread came up and I was thinking of each connection having its own VPN back and using OSPF to handle link failures back home with each router having a loopback address

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-18 Thread eje
You can get 6mbit mobile broadband sometimes as a perk for getting a permanent connection in your apartment/house. My parents had a 26Mbit down DSL connection out in the sticks (5miles from closest bus stop and grocery store) before they moved to a city (35min away and closest city within an

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Eje - where is this? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 11:41 PM,

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Internet Access Deemed a Legal Right

2009-10-18 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Because you have direct experience, I'm curious if you could share what is different in their lives because they have a 100Mbps connection? What can they do on that connection that they can't do on a 1Mbps connection? How has it changed their lives? Travis Microserv e...@wisp-router.com

Re: [WISPA] Ideas on Police Department Wireless Link from StationtoCruiser

2009-10-18 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 18:26 -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: I'd imagine IPSEC would solve that. I haven't looked at it, though. IPSEC would work, but it's a pain to do IPSEC when you're mobile, especially with Mikrotik. OpenVPN offers the same level of encryption and works very well with mobile