But you're missing the point. Yeah, Its definately not worth it, for those that can use the standard CAT5s effectively. But your math assumes that they can, and not considering the other costs. The ROI is NOT on the time saved comparing successful installs, comparing both types. The ROI is on time saved comparing costs of failed connector installs.
What does it cost you if you crimp an end, and get a flaky crimp, and the link not work? How long does it take to figure out which side of the cable had the bad crimp? A 25 cent RJ-45 becomes 50 cents, if you ahve to cut one off and replace it. I can give an example of recently where I had to send a guy back into the city (half day's labor) to fix a packet loss problem caused by defective CAT5 plug terminations. But most of the lost time was in the office troubleshooting the defective packloss link trying to find what was wrong. I can sympathise with eye sight degrating, in my older age :-( . The error rate of successful CAT5 terminations go up, if eye sight is going down. The question to ask is.... are the installers having to high a failure rate for their first crimpts? If they are, then it may be a good investment. As well, I look at my time as worth $100/hr, and I'd gladly spend the extra $100 for connectors if it meant I was more likely to have sucessful crimpts the first time. I compare... Risking paying 25 cent extra verus risk spending extra $100 in time figuring out where I made the Crimp mistake. For the record, I do not use EZ-Rj45 plugs. But I understand the value of Using the best RJ-45Plugs, and the ROI is there. I personally like to use the the RJ45 Plugs sold by Shireen. Ever since we started using them, terminations have been so much easier and successful. I like the Shireen plugs because they have just the right wire hole diameters for the wire to slide in easy, and I can be certain that they'll slide into the right slots as I tried to align them to. (Its becoming harder for me to tell the wire color once its inside the Jack, due to eyes). And I can be certain they'll crimp securely. I also got tired of the two peice CAT5 jacks, because I always kept loosing the second peices, and ended up having to throw away 20% of them that would be incomplete set. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have > At 200/mo you'd need at least one more customer per month. Don't see > this happening by speeding up rj45 connectors. > > On 10/18/09, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my installers... >> but >> $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would cost me an extra $200 >> per month just in connectors. :( >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Mike wrote: >>> >>> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050 >>> Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com >>> >>> >>> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, those are awesome. I wish they had shielded connectors as well. >>>> >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mike" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM >>>> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have learned a lot from this list. I think there is some real >>>>> talent lurking here. We all have discovered certain things which >>>>> just make life as a WISP easier. I think it would be beneficial to >>>>> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained a >>>>> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware, >>>>> software etc ... you would like to share with the group. >>>>> >>>>> I'll start: >>>>> >>>>> what: EZRJ-45 connector system >>>>> where: www.ezrj45.com >>>>> why: As my eyes get older, and especially in low light situations, I >>>>> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a >>>>> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end. This is a quite >>>>> ingenious system. The plugs have holes all the way through. You can >>>>> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the >>>>> tags. It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades that >>>>> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place. Maybe not a time >>>>> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver. 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