Re: [WISPA] TESTing - Please Ignore

2010-01-20 Thread Philip Dorr
Pong On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com wrote: Ping WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Roaming

2010-01-20 Thread Jeremie Chism
I have a 100 police car deployment using alvarion 900mhz units with static public ip addresses that roam through the city. Average throughput is 1.2-1.5 mb down 350-700k up. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:03 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: A local city has contacted me to

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Roaming

2010-01-20 Thread Brian Webster
Seems like I remember Butch Evans talking about a deployment he did like this with Microtik. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 2:04 AM To: WISPA General

[WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Jeff Broadwick
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703652104574652501608376552.ht ml?mod=WSJ_Opinion_AboveLEFTTop * REVIEW OUTLOOK * JANUARY 20, 2010 A 'National Broadband Plan' One more solution in search of a problem. The Federal Communications Commission recently told Congress that it

[WISPA] Radwin 1000

2010-01-20 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
I have a client looking for a Radwin 1000 link. Does anyone on this list sell these units? If so, send me info off-line. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
That's what we're doing. grin Great minds and all. It did come online for a bit yesterday. Not long enough to do any good though. Maybe they'll try a bit harder :-). marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-20 Thread Robert West
If you ever want to see your radio again, leave $14.95 in unmarked change in the trash can at the corner of elm and main at 12 noon tomorrow. Don't ignore this, we're serious. No cops! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Roaming

2010-01-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hi Rick, We've got a system up and running for a small town. It's working well last I knew. Not totally seamless roaming, but pretty close. It'll also work in other communities where people have open routers. Butch, your email is ringing! marlon - Original Message - From: RickG

Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-20 Thread Robert West
Reminds me of a thing that happened here a few years ago. Guy breaks into a convenient store after hours. Steals a bunch of stuff, took this big box thing from a shelf behind the counter that kinda looked like a safe. Couldn't get the safe opened. Cops found it dumped at the park. Turns out it

[WISPA] Time Warner and Comcast TV Everywhere Trials

2010-01-20 Thread Robert West
Got an email yesterday from Time Warner saying they are now taking Beta Testers in my area for the TV Everywhere service. In case you missed it, Comcast and Time Warner are teamed up to provide video content over broadband like HULU and others. I assume that this is a product being used to

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Jack Unger
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American households have no access to broadband. The WSJ is merely a mouthpiece (especially now that Rupurt Murdoch owns it) for the telcos. jack Jeff Broadwick

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I still don't buy that number in the first place. I wish I knew more about how Brian came up with it. What % of rural households does that work out to be? marlon - Original Message - From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Mike Hammett
We have no one but ourselves to blame for that one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:27 AM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Jack Unger
Good point Mike Hammett wrote: We have no one but ourselves to blame for that one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Jack Unger" jun...@ask-wi.com Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:27

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Jeff Broadwick
I don't think it ignores that, it is suggesting that the private sector is in the process of closing that gap, without government investment and/or intervention. I don't believe that it is arguable that coverage is increasing...that's the net effect of the whole WISP industry. Regards, Jeff

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Jack Unger
Sure coverage is "increasing" but that's just a distraction. The issue is that the current level of home broadband Internet access is way too low and millions of people are deprived of Internet access at home (or in a home-based business). The article is nothing more than a thinly-veiled hit

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Jeff Broadwick
I suppose you could look at it that way, but I didn't read that in there at all. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Mike Hammett
http://www.wispa.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Jack.JPG :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Jack Unger Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ Sure coverage is increasing but

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Jack Unger
Thanks Mike. Now you can see what I mean !!! Mike Hammett wrote: http://www.wispa.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Jack.JPG :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Jack Unger Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:16 PM To: WISPA General

[WISPA] Public IP behind Transparent Bridge

2010-01-20 Thread Robert West
Before I start tearing into things and make a mess for myself, can one have a public IP behind a transparent bridge? I have a remote gateway that I want to move the router functions away from and to a more accessible spot one hop away but I would not like having to waste public IP's just to move

Re: [WISPA] Public IP behind Transparent Bridge

2010-01-20 Thread Josh Luthman
I do that all the time. Just be sure to use mode=bridge (or ap-bridge) on one side mode=station-wds on the other side wds-mode=dynamic wds-default-bridge=bridge1 (or whatever bridge includes ether1 and wlan1) If a switch (dumb layer 2) would work, then the above configuration is the same. Josh

Re: [WISPA] Public IP behind Transparent Bridge

2010-01-20 Thread Jim Patient
Yep, works just fine. http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Transparently_Bridge_two_Networks Jim On 1/20/2010 3:45 PM, Robert West wrote: Before I start tearing into things and make a mess for myself, can one have a public IP behind a transparent bridge? I have a remote gateway that I want to

Re: [WISPA] Public IP behind Transparent Bridge

2010-01-20 Thread Robert West
Cool. I thought as much. Thanks! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Public IP behind Transparent Bridge I do that

Re: [WISPA] Public IP behind Transparent Bridge

2010-01-20 Thread David E. Smith
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 15:45, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Before I start tearing into things and make a mess for myself, can one have a public IP behind a transparent bridge? Yup. I can vouch for Josh Luthman's instructions. Heck, I have the whole turn a pair of Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] Public IP behind Transparent Bridge

2010-01-20 Thread Robert West
Thanks for the link. I do transparent bridges within the network but never tried to move a public IP over one. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:41 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Public IP behind Transparent Bridge

2010-01-20 Thread Robert West
I hear ya. If not by bridging, what other option could be used to move the public IP? I NAT everything, public IP's big mega mucho $$ for me, hate it. Can you route the public through a network that is all NAT? Just for future knowledge Bob- -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Public IP behind Transparent Bridge

2010-01-20 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Yes you can do route the publics over a internal private ip network but of course you do not want/need to nat. Drawback (advantage) is that people on the outside can not traceroute through your internal network because you use private ips but that don't prohibit them from reaching the public ips

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
OK, as I understand that the report is based upon the 477 data? marlon - Original Message - From: Jack Unger To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ Marlon, See the attached report. Go to Table 2 on page

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Nice teddy bear! - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ http://www.wispa.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Jack.JPG :-p

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Jack Unger
Thanks! I feel real affectionate towards the little guy. That's why I keep him here, real close by me for 18 hours every day. Here's here right now and he just said "Hi Marlon". BTW, he's wearing his Studebaker hat again. jack Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Nice teddy bear! -

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Roaming

2010-01-20 Thread RickG
I knew you did Marlon - I've seen your pics. I dont recall which equipment you used? -RickG On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: Hi Rick, We've got a system up and running for a small town. It's working well last I knew. Not totally seamless

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Roaming

2010-01-20 Thread RickG
I'll be discussing this with Butch. Speaking of which - I had Butch upgrade my RB750G firewall with his QOS script. I works very well! -RickG On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: Seems like I remember Butch Evans talking about a deployment he did

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Roaming

2010-01-20 Thread RickG
I that while moving or in place? I've used Alvarion 900 for fixed locations before and wasnt too happy with the throughput. Of course, if it works 99% while roaming, it would have bragging rights. -RickG On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 100 police

Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-20 Thread RickG
Ya, I figured you thought of that. Now, if you could redirect their web session and phish them to enter in their contact info! On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: That's what we're doing. grin Great minds and all. It did come online for a bit

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread RickG
Right: The Technology Policy Institute notes that at the current rates of broadband adoption the U.S. is behind the leaders only by a number of months, and all wealthy OECD countries will reach a saturation point within the next few years. Now, how many here are updating their business models to

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread RickG
Forgive me if I'm reading the report wrong but isnt deprived a strong word considering the take rate according to the report is only 75%? My take rate here is only about 20% of the LOS customers. Most people here either dont want it or cant afford it. So, why waste resources building out to them?

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread RickG
Is that before or after the book? On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: http://www.wispa.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Jack.JPG :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Jack Unger Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread RickG
Brian, nice job btw. -RickG On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: Marlon, Read this take rate brief I wrote with one of the data companies I work with. It will take you about 10 minutes. It goes in to specific detail of how the study was

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Heya Brian, That's the take I had on this. That the number of households services was based on the 477 data. I didn't see any other data sets that would give an indication of the number of actually services households. If the study is based only on the consumers reported via the 477 it's

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Roaming

2010-01-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
The latest version is MT gear. marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Roaming I knew you did Marlon - I've seen your pics. I dont recall which

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread MDK
Is that directly off the pages of the Democrat National Committee Blast Fax talking points of the day? Shame on you, Jack. There's easily 24 million households THAT DO NOT WANT OR WILL NOT PAY FOR broadband. I have some areas where I cover 100% of the households, nobody else does, and yet, I

Re: [WISPA] stolen solar site

2010-01-20 Thread Tom Sharples
How about a splash page that says Congrats - you have won lifetime free internet - just enter your name address here! - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] stolen

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Brian Webster
Marlon, You are not reading the report. The census block consumer reported data is NOT FROM THE 477 DATA. This is information compiled from various large marketing companies around the US and gets tabulated every 60 days. The version I used was from the first two quarters of 2009 so it is

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-20 Thread John Thomas
Try to find out what mac address is on which port-you can't do that with the HP 1800's, you need something higher up the food chain. John Scott Vander Dussen wrote: Nick- Thanks for the info - I'm looking at specifications between the HP ProCurve 1810G Switch Series http://bit.ly/5g2F0B and

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread RickG
I knew Mark would chime in :) Per my last post, my experience is the same. The broadband debate reminds me a lot of the healthcare debate. Everybody wants it but nobody wants to pay for it. I'm still waiting for my free electicity, natural gas, water, sewer, television, etc, etc. The bottom line

Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch Recommendations

2010-01-20 Thread Nick Olsen
The 1810G-24 can. The 1800-24 8 can't. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:20 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Gigabit Switch

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Jack Unger
I refuse to feed the troll. I refuse to feed the troll. I refuse to feed the troll. I refuse to feed the troll. I refuse to feed the troll. MDK wrote: Is that directly off the pages of the Democrat National Committee "Blast Fax" talking points of the day? Shame on you, Jack. There's

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Josh Luthman
Jack wrote and published a book... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: I refuse

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-20 Thread Mike Hammett
I won't comment on the first parts. ;-) The rest is completely true, other than Brian is talking about 24 million households can't get it in the first place vs. 24 million households that don't want it that you (and others on the list) took it to mean. - Mike Hammett Intelligent