[WISPA] Rain Rain Go Away Come back after 3 days!

2010-12-22 Thread Tom Fadgen
Today is the sixth day of rain. We live a desert and are not used to or prepared for this much water. This morning a mudslide took down one of my towers. I discovered this via a site survey at 3am. Back at the office now for shovels(lol)

Re: [WISPA] Rain Rain Go Away Come back after 3 days!

2010-12-22 Thread Bret Clark
Hard to feel your pain when those of us have to deal with blizzards and sub-zero temps on regular basis throughout winter ...but then again maybe it's easy to feel your pain :)...hang in there! On 12/22/2010 06:56 AM, Tom Fadgen wrote: Today is the sixth day of rain. We live a desert and are

Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless

2010-12-22 Thread Jeremie Chism
The real question is does the FCC have the jurisdiction to do any of this. I think when one of the big guys challenges it in court we will see that they don't. I am sure that will change at some point in the future. Sent from my iPhone4 On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:44 AM, RickG

Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless

2010-12-22 Thread Rick Harnish
Genachowski was confident that they do. He says Congress granted them that permission in 2008 (I believe). However, there is a large contingency of politicians, companies and special interest groups that disagree with the Chairman’s viewpoints. This ruling will be challenged in Court

Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless

2010-12-22 Thread Robert West
I think that most will agree that they do not however since it touches so many citizens there will always be a group demanding that “They need to do something about this” for whatever reason and most if not all bureaucrats are reactionary to the squeaky wheel and will do almost anything to shut

Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless

2010-12-22 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 12/22/2010 10:05 AM, JeremieC wrote: The real question is does the FCC have the jurisdiction to do any of this. I think when one of the big guys challenges it in court we will see that they don't. I am sure that will change at some point in the future. The FCC's authority over common

Re: [WISPA] From ATT public policy blog- Comcast vs Level3

2010-12-22 Thread Tom DeReggi
Exactly! WISPs need to build their percieved value in the eyes of other ISPs. It all has to start somewhere. One way is to start peering at any level, with who ever you can, regardless of whether its really again. One measurement is traffic volume, unfortunately, most WISPs aren't favors

Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg

2010-12-22 Thread Glenn Kelley
Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he

Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg

2010-12-22 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Is this not from time Warner? Is it from someone else at 5/Meg Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different

Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg

2010-12-22 Thread Glenn Kelley
Correct. If you can come off a large building out of any of the cities here in Ohio that have carrier hotels - you can just backhaul your network right out of the city. Cogent for example on their website today is offering $4/meg (for gige commit I bet) if TW wants to charge $2100 for 40 Meg

Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg

2010-12-22 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Saving 80k would mean I could buy that new bucket truck :) Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Correct. If you can come off a large building out of any of the cities here in Ohio that have carrier hotels - you can just backhaul your

Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg

2010-12-22 Thread Nick Olsen
$4/meg from cogent is actually a bit high. I've seen deals for 3/meg on 100mb/s commit, And under 1.8/meg for GigE commit. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 12:47

[WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters

2010-12-22 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Does anyone know where to get the rack adapters so you can mount normal 19 rackmounts in the wider racks? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters

2010-12-22 Thread Josh Luthman
They are expensive. I had some THICK aluminum laying around and just drilled. Works great. On Dec 22, 2010 4:17 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Does anyone know where to get the rack adapters so you can mount normal 19 rackmounts in the wider racks?

Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg

2010-12-22 Thread Glenn Kelley
In the Philly market yes in Ohio - not so much :-( It depends upon what they have i guess (or the sales rep) $300/mo for 100mbps is not 2 shabby :-) On Dec 22, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: $4/meg from cogent is actually a bit high. I've seen deals for 3/meg on 100mb/s commit, And

Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters

2010-12-22 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
If you mean 23 to 19, then http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/Rackmount_Filler_Panels_Brackets.asp#REDUCER%20BRACKETS -Kristian On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 16:17 -0500, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Does anyone know where to get the rack adapters so you can mount normal 19 rackmounts in the

Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters

2010-12-22 Thread Bob Moldashel
Anixter and graybar both have them but they are pricey Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, Dec 22, 2010 21:17:22 GMT+00:00 Subject: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack

Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters

2010-12-22 Thread Josh Luthman
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Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters

2010-12-22 Thread Jeremy Parr
These guys are great for all those hard to find rackmount server items. On 12/22/10, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: If you mean 23 to 19, then http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/Rackmount_Filler_Panels_Brackets.asp#REDUCER%20BRACKETS -Kristian On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 16:17

Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters

2010-12-22 Thread Jeremy Parr
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Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters

2010-12-22 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
I was just about to order one of their modular power distribution strips (Power Assembly for Open Frame Rack 111). I haven't found a better way to get multiple circuits cleanly into a rack. -Kristian On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 18:09 -0500, Jeremy Parr wrote: Whoops, that isn't the company I was

Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters

2010-12-22 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 22 December 2010 18:17, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: I was just about to order one of their modular power distribution strips (Power Assembly for Open Frame Rack 111).  I haven't found a better way to get multiple circuits cleanly into a rack. That is cool. I love the option

Re: [WISPA] High Power RF close-proximity on tower question

2010-12-22 Thread Tom DeReggi
Ouch. I can just feel the flesh boiling. Probably have to wear a radiation suite to work on your radio, being that close to that. I'd predict the Ubiquitits would get severe receiver overload without filters added. Any chance of moving your antennas further away? Or the FM antennas further

Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless

2010-12-22 Thread Tom DeReggi
It was a win because the FCC did not decide to go after title-II reclassification. Taking authority under Title I will only allow limited authority in my opinion, and their authority and decissions could be challenged in court. Considering that many believe that titleI does not give the