Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?

2011-01-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
The pressure of government or Industry pushing IPv6 for the sake of the protocol has never worked. Forcing change is difficult. But what we cant ignore is 1) IPv4 available space is disapearing. 2) There are actually benefits to IPv6, where WISPs might want to start using it for their own

Re: [WISPA] wires, wires, more wires!

2011-01-14 Thread Dylan Bouterse
And why is the sky green? Oh, that's a building... :o/ Dylan From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] wires, wires, more wires! See attached. I wonder

Re: [WISPA] wires, wires, more wires!

2011-01-14 Thread Bob Moldashel
Looks like Marlon doing DSL ! LOL! On 1/13/2011 10:34 PM, RickG wrote: See attached. I wonder which country that is? -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] wires, wires, more wires!

2011-01-14 Thread Andy Trimmell
It's kinda the same way here in America when you hit a east coastal town down south. After a hurricane they don't even remove the old they just wrap it around bundle it up and duct tape it to the pole. I took some pictures of it down in florida when I went to destin a couple years ago.

[WISPA] anybody using the new CPE? (new toy from mikrotik)

2011-01-14 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi anybody using this new thing: RouterBOARD SXT 5HnD MikroTik RouterBoard SXT 5HnD is a low cost, high speed 5GHz wireless device. Dual chain 802.11n and Nv2 TDMA technology help to achieve even 200Mbit real throughput speed. Complete with a ready to mount enclosure and built-in antenna, this

[WISPA] IPv6 Real or Bust?

2011-01-14 Thread Steve Barnes
Fred, I thought about posting back to you all day yesterday and finally decided to. I agree that there will always be some sort of IPV4 out and available. They are constantly trying to get universities who were given huge blocks that have used less than 5% to relinquish parts of it. But as

Re: [WISPA] IPv6 Real or Bust?

2011-01-14 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Hi Steve, IPv6 is real.as is the need for it. The good news is that we'll get to benefit from work done internationally, as certain other countries are critically short of IPv4 space. Just when it will become something that is mandatory is still an open question. We've had a number of

[WISPA] Need Service

2011-01-14 Thread Jory Privett
Can anyone service Monahans, Tx? This is west of Odessa, Tx. If you can or know of anyone that can please contact me. I have a business customer wanting service. WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] 11Ghz Licensing Warning Question

2011-01-14 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 1/14/2011 01:31 AM, Michael Mulcay wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0013_01CBB371.AEA7F3F0 Content-Language: en-us Fred, Tom DeReggi's comments were business-case based and constructive; basically exploring whether the Commission's NPRM on

Re: [WISPA] 11Ghz Licensing Warning Question

2011-01-14 Thread Fred Goldstein
Tom asked, A relevent question is... What percent of Pre-existing PArt-101 licenses are owned by who? For example, what percentage of PArt101 licenses are owned by Sprint or Fiber tower? Surely without those numbers disclosed, we really cant understand who these auxilary stations really

Re: [WISPA] IPv6 Real or Bust?

2011-01-14 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 1/14/2011 10:15 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: Fred, I thought about posting back to you all day yesterday and finally decided to. Glad you did. I don't mind taking unpopular views. I agree that there will always be some sort of IPV4 out and available. They are constantly trying to get

Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?

2011-01-14 Thread Glenn Kelley
I pushed UBNT on this directly - as they have not given a direct date. http://ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26668 ARIN had been giving IPV6 out for FREE - so it is not just a dream With vendors (like Time Warner) trying to charge $1 per IP (that is where they start the negotiating) - that

Re: [WISPA] IPv6 Real or Bust?

2011-01-14 Thread Glenn Kelley
good points Fred. I tend to look @ things differently 1. IPv7 is not here 2. IPv6 is Moving forward only helps all of us - and it is not a move 1 step forward and 2 steps back ... so in this case the vendors supporting IPV6 just makes sense. On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:32 AM, Fred Goldstein

Re: [WISPA] IPv6 Real or Bust?

2011-01-14 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 1/14/2011 12:07 PM, Glenn Kelley wrote: good points Fred. I tend to look @ things differently 1. IPv7 is not here Ironically, at the time it was adopted, it had already been implemented in the major routers and many hosts. It was ready to go. (Of course it has been set aside since then,

Re: [WISPA] anybody using the new CPE? (new toy from mikrotik)

2011-01-14 Thread Wallace Walcher
As of yesterday, none of my vendors had it in stock. On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi anybody using this new thing: RouterBOARD SXT 5HnD MikroTik RouterBoard SXT 5HnD is a low cost, high speed 5GHz wireless device. Dual chain

Re: [WISPA] anybody using the new CPE? (new toy from mikrotik)

2011-01-14 Thread richard sterne
There is a problem with the 200Mbit real throughput speed. The ethernet is One 10/100 Ethernet port. Details at http://routerboard.com/index.php?showProduct=108 Thoughts Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] anybody using the new CPE? (new toy from mikrotik)

2011-01-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
Same issue with Ubnt. I find it amusing that this can happen. I have 700 horsepower, but alas my transmission can only handle 350 - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of richard sterne Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:01 AM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] anybody using the new CPE? (new toy from mikrotik)

2011-01-14 Thread Blake Covarrubias
On Jan 14, 2011, at 12:01 PM, richard sterne wrote: There is a problem with the 200Mbit real throughput speed. The ethernet is One 10/100 Ethernet port. Details at http://routerboard.com/index.php?showProduct=108 Thoughts Most wireless data rates are specified as aggregate data rates. At

[WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
Got tired of fighting with MT's User Manager. I am setting up my first gateway with Wireless Orbit. Under the IP addressThe IP keeps defaulting to a /32 subnet. I need it to be /24 however if I try to enter it this way I get an error. I think this may be why WO Radius is not communicating with

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Email support, but are you talking about the gateway ip or the customers? On Jan 14, 2011 12:30 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Got tired of fighting with MT's User Manager. I am setting up my first gateway with Wireless Orbit. Under the IP addressThe IP keeps defaulting

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
Already email support and posted on the forum. Generally get quick answers here. The Gateway configuration in Wireless Orbit wants the WAN IP of the gateway. Keeps forcing back to /32. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent:

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
That may not be the issue though. I'm grasping at straws since I have configured everything as per the WO instructions and yet still not getting users added to the HotSpot - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Friday,

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
I think it has to be /32, the gateway IP that WO sees. On Jan 14, 2011 12:55 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Already email support and posted on the forum. Generally get quick answers here. The Gateway configuration in Wireless Orbit wants the WAN IP of the gateway. Keeps

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Frank Watts
Jerry don't worry about the /32 just put the address of mt box and make sure the lan ip address is correct. Users are added to wireless orbit not to the MT users tab. If you look under account in WO you will see any users you added. You can still have local users in the MT if you want.

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
Thanks Frank, the user gets added to WO but is not showing up in HotSpot Active - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Frank Watts Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 12:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Frank Watts
It only shows up in the hotspot active when they are on line. Frank - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 03:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik Thanks Frank, the user gets added to WO but

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
this is getting tested on the bench - I'm the user. I'm connecting to the HotSpot, getting an IP, opening the broweser, redirecting to WO page, signing up, and paying via Authorize.Net. I can go through the entire process with no errors, yet I'm not getting added to the Active list. It's got

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Are you getting a cookie? I agree, does sound like radius. Double check the radius config in your MT, make sure hotspot is checked. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Jerry Richardson

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
No cookie Check and check. Perplexed Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 14, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you getting a cookie? I agree, does sound like radius. Double check the radius config in your MT, make

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
Wireless Orbit is a joke. System is broken - I'm getting zero Radius communication. No support, last post in the forum was April 14th last year. supp...@wirelessorbit.commailto:supp...@wirelessorbit.com goes unanswered. I'm kinda pissed. I thought I was paying for support. - Jerry From:

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
There is next to no support. That is why I quiet. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Wireless Orbit is a joke. System is broken - I'm getting zero

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
Quit what - using them for Radius, or quit the company? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik There is next to no

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Using their portal, radius, product. What you're trying to use. On Jan 14, 2011 4:34 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Quit what - using them for Radius, or quit the company? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
They got back to me. It was operator error on my part. I assumed that once the account is created the user is automatically logged in, not so. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 3:37 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
So you never tried to login? That simple? Going to have dumb people do that if you did it...lots of support time. On Jan 14, 2011 6:02 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: They got back to me. It was operator error on my part. I assumed that once the account is created the

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
Yeah, I was operating under the User Manager processes. Now that I know how to deal with it, I can build the website to include directions... - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:05 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Best of luck to you! Hope it all works out. On Jan 14, 2011 6:10 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Yeah, I was operating under the User Manager processes. Now that I know how to deal with it, I can build the website to include directions... - Jerry From:

Re: [WISPA] OT: Wireless Orbit Mikrotik

2011-01-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
Me too, this has been a PITA. I've managed to avoid it for two years by outsourcing but alas, it's come home... - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] anybody using the new CPE? (new toy from mikrotik)

2011-01-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't mind that problem on a $90 CPE, but from the higher end gear, that's a problem. MT has bigger and bigger RouterBoards available for PtPs, APs, etc. where you need that kind of data. UBNT hasn't figured that out yet. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] anybody using the new CPE? (new toy from mikrotik)

2011-01-14 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
one vendor in Europe claiming it will be available from next Monday. As of yesterday, none of my vendors had it in stock. On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi anybody using this new thing:

Re: [WISPA] anybody using the new CPE? (new toy from mikrotik)

2011-01-14 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
I would love to see a gear with fiber ethernet not copper ethernet, it would help very much on the crowded towers (i.e. solving interferences) I would happly pay 100USD more for such a device I don't mind that problem on a $90 CPE, but from the higher end gear, that's a problem. MT has

[WISPA] Connected Nation Rules

2011-01-14 Thread Robert West
When WISPA decides to bow down to the wishes of Connected Nation, a well-known and well documented anti WISP organization and smack me down with parroted words that were told me also by the LATEST Connected Nation CEO boy We're done. Please remove me from the WISPA list and be happy.

Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules

2011-01-14 Thread Blair Davis
Ok... What did I miss? On 1/14/2011 10:15 PM, Robert West wrote: When WISPA decides to bow down to the wishes of Connected Nation, a well-known and well documented anti WISP organization and smack me down with

Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules

2011-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
The problem was the lack of maturity and how bad the content makes WISPA look. We have our opinions. We are people. But we, as adults and businesses or representatives, need too display a level of advancement. On Jan 14, 2011 9:39 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules

2011-01-14 Thread Josh Luthman
WISPA is represented by its members. Would you appreciate your installer doing such acts against a competitor? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Ya know, I've

Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules

2011-01-14 Thread Glenn Kelley
Is Bob a member? I could be wrong - but I thought this was just on the public list ... that being said - since Anyone can post - and Anyone can join the public list - Perhaps it might be good for WISPA to have a disclaimer @ the Bottom of all emails - stating This is a public forum provided

[WISPA] OT: Miss America

2011-01-14 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Shout out to Miss Nebraska, Theresa Scanlan. She won the talent competition today and is one of the youngest contestants ever in the show (17). The Scanlans are Vistabeam customers and we are very proud of Theresa and her entire family.12 months ago, she was carrying out groceries and

Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules

2011-01-14 Thread RickG
Josh, you're comparing apples to oranges. AFAIK, CN is not a competitor nor a member. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: WISPA is represented by its members. Would you appreciate your installer doing such acts against a competitor? Josh Luthman

Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Rules

2011-01-14 Thread RickG
Very good point. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Is Bob a member? I could be wrong - but I thought this was just on the public list ... that being said - since Anyone can post - and Anyone can join the public list - Perhaps it might be good for

Re: [WISPA] OT: Miss America

2011-01-14 Thread RickG
And now all your techs want to take service calls to her home ;) On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: Shout out to Miss Nebraska, Theresa Scanlan. She won the talent competition today and is one of the youngest contestants ever in the show (17).