Re: [WISPA] [WUG] EMERGENCY TDWR INTERFERENCE ISSUE IN LAS VEGAS

2011-11-28 Thread Rick Harnish
Chris, Would you be willing to share any knowledge of other operators in the Las Vegas area that may be using this spectrum? Please contact me offlist. Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish.

Re: [WISPA] [WUG] EMERGENCY TDWR INTERFERENCE ISSUE IN LAS VEGAS

2011-11-28 Thread lakel...@gbcx.net
Rick Are they still looking for this signal? Bob - Reply message - From: Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org To: apos;WISPA General Listapos; wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] [WUG] EMERGENCY TDWR INTERFERENCE ISSUE IN LAS VEGAS Date: Mon, Nov 28, 2011 11:03 am Chris, Would you be

Re: [WISPA] [WUG] EMERGENCY TDWR INTERFERENCE ISSUE IN LAS VEGAS

2011-11-28 Thread Jack Unger
Bob, Yes. jack On 11/28/2011 9:46 AM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Rick Are they still looking for this signal? Bob - Reply message - From: "Rick Harnish"

[WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
Hello, I operate in the custom software development industry and am considering setting up a WISP as a new business investment. I know very little about the industry and am hoping that some of you will not mind giving me some feedback. In exchange, I'll be glad to answer any software development

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hi Rich, WISPA General List is actually a Global List. It would go a long ways for relevant folks to reply back to you if you at least share what part of the world ? / State or City if in the US. My personal reaction after reading the first two paragraphs was to suggest that you should

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I agree - - it's very difficult (in my opinion) to be able to offer a wireless type service over a usb dongle. You'd pretty much need to have wireless spectrum like the big guys do, in order to get a good enough signal / noise ratio. I believe Motorola makes an indoor 900 mhz SM that is good

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
Thx Faisal, I'm located in PA in the USA. But, I'm not interested in starting a WISP based on where I'm located. I'm interested in finding a location that best enables success for the business. Yes, I would be looked at as the business/funding person. A technical partner or technical

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Doug Clark
Rich, Take a look at the failing business model of Clear. They have their own licensed spectrum and in my area they spent close to 140 million dollars on build out. They had their network over-saturated within 6 months of turning their towers on with a ton of customers really un happy because

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
What does a pure fixed wireless mean? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote: Rich, Take a look at the failing business model of Clear. They have their own licensed spectrum and in my area they spent close to 140 million dollars on build out. They had their

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Sam Tetherow
Rich, Given current gear, FCC regulations and available spectrum, outside of reselling cellular you are not going to going to find anything you will be able to reliable allow the customer to self-install. Trust me, there are smarter minds than mine that have been trying to figure that one out

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
How do the companies that have a dongle do it? Are they using something other than a WISP? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Rich, Given current gear, FCC regulations and available spectrum, outside of reselling cellular you are not going to going to

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Josh Luthman
None that I know of. Those are the companies like Clear and OpenRange. That model doesn't seem to financially or operationally/technically work. Most if not all the Wisps here install equipment on vertical space (grain leg, building, tower) and install a CPE on the customer roof. From the CPE

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
What type of equipment does Clear/OpenRange use that allows a connection using one of those 1x3 USB things? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: None that I know of. Those are the companies like Clear and OpenRange. That model doesn't seem to

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Fixed Wireless = Professional Install of CPE on Customer Premises (outdoors / e.g. like installation of a Satellite Dish etc.) (Semi- Fixed Wireless ? or a Self Install Fixed Wireless ) ... as the name suggests, the User will do the CPE Install themselves.. Mobile Wireless = CPE is

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Sam Tetherow
Do you have a particular company in mind? The only companies that I know of that are using dongles (somewhat successfully) are cellular companies. They are using licensed frequencies that cost in hundreds of millions of dollars, assuming you can find any for sale. The last public sale was

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Matt Jenkins
Proprietary equipment in most cases. They also use licensed frequency which they pay a premium for. On 11/28/2011 04:51 PM, Rich _ wrote: What type of equipment does Clear/OpenRange use that allows a connection using one of those 1"x3" USB things?

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
Those are both good examples of what I had in mind. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: Do you have a particular company in mind? The only companies that I know of that are using dongles (somewhat successfully) are cellular companies. They are using

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
Then, most WISP operations use unlicensed freqencies? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote: ** Proprietary equipment in most cases. They also use licensed frequency which they pay a premium for. On 11/28/2011 04:51 PM, Rich _ wrote: What type of

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Jenco Wireless
Amen On Nov 28, 2011 7:12 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote: Rich, Take a look at the failing business model of Clear. They have their own licensed spectrum and in my area they spent close to 140 million dollars on build out. They had their network over-saturated within 6 months of

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Rich _
The answer to my last question was obvious from the posts so far. I should have asked if there are licensed frequencies that I can still purchase and if so how much do the range in cost? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote: ** Proprietary equipment in

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread wispa
The dongles used to be that expensive, but we can get them now for $30 to $40 each, but that is the easy part. To get that going, you need a massive infrastructure footprint, own spectrum, large base stations which are tens of thousands of dollars above anything a WISP typically would deploy,

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread wispa
ATT wants to buy T-Mobile - mainly for its spectrum. That is a $33+ billion dollar deal. If you look at the spectrum the cellular companies have and are hoarding, you will conclude it is very hard to find spectrum worth having which is not already licensed, which is why WISPA is working hard

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Josh Luthman
I am curious if any one of the users here have any frequency deployed. I know Jay has some in Alabama. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 28, 2011 8:18 PM, Rich _ rich.ema...@gmail.com wrote: Then, most WISP operations use

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread wispa
It could be you will not find what you want, Rich. Having easy frequencies - your 'own' spectrum, cheap gear from Huawei, and simply mailing the CPE 'dongle' to the customers still runs up against physics: you need to have to pump plenty of power into the air to cover a big area, and even if

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread wispa
Well said! So would you care to put a price tag on what you cost out an indoor customer-installed link versus an outdoor company-installed link and the related share of RAN to the edge of the network? Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com wrote .. On Nov 28, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Sam Tetherow

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Not deployed yet, aside from simply the substantial service I believe I met two or three others WISPS that had some frequency/spectrum - one or two in vegas and at least one on the boat - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday,

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I believe another way around this might be to limit clients from connecting below a certain signal threshold. I'm hoping for at least 3-4 miles around a tower with reliable signal and a usb dongle type interface, but I don't expect all the customers to be that way. This is all very new to

Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

2011-11-28 Thread Brad Belton
Ok sorry, but this is where I check out on this thread.. BTW, I'm interested in starting a car company using four black round things to make it roll..me like cars. You know there's something to be said for companies like McDonalds. Before you're allowed to own one you required to flip a