Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-08 Thread Robert West
General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP I wish you were going to St. Louis. Your idea rocks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:22 PM To: 'WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-08 Thread Robert West
: Limiting range of Wifi AP I wish you were going to St. Louis. Your idea rocks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:22 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
...@mtin.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP If it is a Mikrotik AP you could do a connect list and limit the signal strength to a respectable number. This way anyone who is further away from the AP

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-08 Thread Mike
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:44 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP I solved a problem similar to this some time back. I waited to reply to this thread until I found the files I

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-08 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP I solved a problem similar to this some time back. I waited to reply to this thread until I found the files I was looking for. If you place a very directional antenna, like a corner reflector in the front corner of a store and point

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-08 Thread Mike
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP You mean something like this http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/Ez-10/ :) Regards

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-08 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP You mean something like this http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/Ez-10/ :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/8/2010 6:51 PM

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-08 Thread RickG
...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Hey Gang Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk parameter work? WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-08 Thread Mike
: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Hi Mike, Not trying to take away anything from you.. just found that web page to have a bit more detailed instructions and pictures. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 7/8/2010 7:07 PM, Mike wrote: Looks very similar. If you look in the AMSAT

[WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Gino Villarini
Hey Gang Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk parameter work? WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.I would like to

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
ack-timeout can be dynamic or indoor - that might help. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:16

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Nick Olsen
Turn the power down? Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:16 AM To: motor...@afmug.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Justin Wilson
: Limiting range of Wifi AP Hey Gang Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk parameter work? WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Dennis Burgess
Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:16 AM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Hey

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Matt
WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots. Is that legal? Or is it state by state? Matt

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Jul 7, 2010

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Justin Wilson
@wispa.org Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread richard sterne
Would an attenuator do this. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Gino Villarini
: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Gino, Can you maybe do a redirect page every hour or two? Simply state you're using free Gino internet please be sure you accept these terms of use then hit accept to keep using it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Stuart Pierce
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 �Success is not final

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Costs of stopping it are higher then doing a technical work around. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Greg Ihnen
Yes, you can play with ack timing and limit the range, so I've been told. I do use manual ack timing here for just that reason. Greg On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: Hey Gang Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk parameter work?

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Justin Wilson
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 14:33:08 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Sell them a Mikrotik hotspot and setup a password, trial options and advertisments. One advertisement can say, hey sign up for a faster speed and no annoying

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Greg Ihnen
Yes, but turning down the TX power is a better idea. An attenuator is going to decrease the RX sensitivity. Greg On Jul 7, 2010, at 12:58 PM, richard sterne wrote: Would an attenuator do this. Richard

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 7/7/2010 03:36 PM, Greg wrote: Yes, but turning down the TX power is a better idea. An attenuator is going to decrease the RX sensitivity. I agree. And keep the hot spot inside, away from the windows. The walls will attenuate the signal too. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Robert West
- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Sounds fair Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Robert West
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP But if it¹s a restaurant they might not want to do technical support. Anytime you have a hotspot you have a learning curve. We have several clients who expressly do not want a splash page, hotspot, etc. They don¹t want

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread RickG
I just turn down the power. But I know you know that! On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Hey Gang Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk parameter work? WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons,

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread RickG
I do that too :) On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 7/7/2010 03:36 PM, Greg wrote: Yes, but turning down the TX power is a better idea. An attenuator is going to decrease the RX sensitivity. I agree.  And keep the hot spot inside, away from the

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Greg Ihnen
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Sounds fair Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Sounds fair Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Chuck Profito
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Good lord are you mad?!?! No restaurant owner wants to do

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Mike
I wish you were going to St. Louis. Your idea rocks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:22 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Mike Hammett
I think your only reasonable attempt with no support requirements is to cut the ack time. Anything else reduces the coverage inside the establishment or increases support. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/7/2010 10:16 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Luthman
A thought occurs... If you know what mac/IP are bad people then redirect them to a page that says: You're getting Internet illegally. Please contact your service provider. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final,

Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP

2010-07-07 Thread Chuck Profito
small change: Please contact YOUR SERVICE PROVIDER! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP