Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Congress, FBI, FEMA, FCC (then the different divisions within the FCC), etc. In some areas we aren't yet a player and in others, WISPs have been a player for several years. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-30 Thread Scott Reed
I thought only Congress could make tax rules. Does the current law allow the FCC to impose USF on whatever they want? On 8/29/2012 4:40 PM, Jack Unger wrote: I also think it's a tax too. I just don't think we should

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-30 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 8/30/2012 09:07 AM, you wrote: I thought only Congress could make tax rules. Does the current law allow the FCC to impose USF on whatever they want? Of course they do. USF is part of TA96. It is not labeled tax because it doesn't go through the Treasury and the General Fund, but is

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-30 Thread Forbes Mercy
Chris, Let me reason this out with you and Jack. I've always felt WISPA is too conservative in simply making filings and a rare visit. I've felt that education of our Congressional members has helped them remember us when staff reviews new laws. What we haven't done

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-30 Thread chris cooper
Forbes There are roughly 60 days left before the election. I doubt I could get the local dog catcher candidate to take a policy position 60 days out from the election, much less a complicated position. The election has the nation polarized. In Ohio the race is neck and neck +/- a few points.

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-30 Thread Sean Heskett
+1 no corporate welfare! On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: Chris, Let me reason this out with you and Jack. I've always felt WISPA is too conservative in simply making filings and a rare visit. I've felt that education of our

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-29 Thread Forbes Mercy
I wonder if it would benefit us to send a "New Tax Coming to a Constituent Near You" release where in this era of taxes being waged to pay off debt, a new tax is being proposed by the FCC to the broadband industry which will only serve to subsidize the telephone industry

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-29 Thread chris cooper
I wouldn't do that in the pre election climate. It seems like it could be taken a couple of different ways, any one of which might alienate 50% of your customers. cc -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-29 Thread Jack Unger
I see sending any kind of WISPA "release" as just election-year political gamesmanship that is likely to hurt us more than help us. This so-called "tax" is just being shifted from voice to broadband. The FCC's job (as mandated by Congress) is to

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-29 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
I agree with your conclusions Jack, but it is absolutely a tax. Regards, Jeff Sales Manager, Blue Technology 574-935-8484 x106 (US/Can) 574-220-7826 (Cell) +1 574-935-8484 (Int'l) _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-29 Thread Jack Unger
I also think it's a tax too. I just don't think we should lose our cool and do destructive things that could hurt our industry just because it's a tax. On 8/29/2012 1:27 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-29 Thread Mike Hammett
I guess the reference to not being a government player back then depends on what entity you're talking about. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org,

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-29 Thread John Scrivner
What's that supposed to mean? Scriv On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I guess the reference to not being a government player back then depends on what entity you're talking about. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

[WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-28 Thread Jim Patient
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Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-28 Thread Fred Goldstein
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Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-28 Thread Cameron Crum
Funny, I don't recall rove or cheney heading the fcc. How about we dump all the taxes or fees or whatever they want to call it and really label the playing field? On Tuesday, August 28, 2012, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: At 8/28/2012 04:20 PM, Jim Patient wrote: Content-Class:

Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-28 Thread Freylekhman, Alex
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Re: [WISPA] Oh Great take from the poor and give to the rich!

2012-08-28 Thread Jack Unger
Throw out that word "tax" and everyone gets all excited but this is really old news and not really any news at all. Just the transition of the USF program (subsidies to extend phone service to rural areas) into the CAF program where the subsidies will now