[WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread support
has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
BlockBuster also has an online movie delivery service. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 10:01 AM, support wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:01, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster You still have a Blockbuster nearby? There's not one within thirty miles of me; the last one closed a couple years ago. There's one video rental store in town, and I can't

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Redbox is at Walmart and McDonald's. I'm guessing all of them, but could be wrong. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:01, support

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jeremie Chism
Just saw an article that redbox rentals have outpaced the other store rentals anyway. Sent from my iPhone4 On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Redbox is at Walmart and McDonald's. I'm guessing all of them, but could be wrong. Josh Luthman

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
That doesn't surprise me at all. Who drives to the video to get a video instead of going to Walmart to get groceries, medicine, make up, shotgun, clothes and then gets a video on the way out? McDonald's needs a drive through Redbox IMO. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:25, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Redbox is at Walmart and McDonald's. I'm guessing all of them, but could be wrong. Many, but certainly not all. There are three McD's near here, only one of which has a Redbox. (Though two of the bigger grocery

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jeremie Chism
Mcdonalds here has redbox. Along with most of the pharmacies. Sent from my iPhone4 On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: That doesn't surprise me at all. Who drives to the video to get a video instead of going to Walmart to get groceries, medicine,

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Martha Huizenga
Title: signature Blockbuster doesn't do streaming for free, if at all. We just switched from Blockbuster to Netflix for this reason. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 Friendly, Local,

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Bingo. Im keeping my cells small so I can keep the link rates high. I am working on getting fiber (or at least copper) between most relays. In a few places I am still looking at what it would take to be a cable provider but i really dislike all the regulation that comes with that. On Tue, Jan 18,

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
As that what you are running? You have a fiber feed to every tower? What is your expected subs/AP? Are you running full wraps? Do you have additional spectrum to lean into when your current AP's max out? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
Interesting. I don't see the backhaul being the problem, fiber or high cap BH's will do the job. The issue really lies in the last hop to the sub. The idea of small cells is a good one and with UBNT's pricing it's doable. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jeromie Reeves
And I am banking (latterly) that the GPS sync will help double my capacity. It should, but we will see. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Interesting. I don’t see the backhaul being the problem, fiber or high cap BH's will do the job. The

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Chuck Hogg
For us, we have more capacity at each tower than the aggregate amount of bandwidth in AP's. I keep telling others, it's not the cost to get it to the tower, but from the tower to the home that hurts. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netwrote:

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
That's because Netflix has the older stuff =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Interesting. I don’t see the backhaul being the problem, fiber

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
Que? Not sure what you mean. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix That's because Netflix has the older stuff =)

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Greg Ihnen
On Jan 18, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Que? Not sure what you mean. - Jerry I just signed my parents up for Netflix. They have 22,000 titles. Amazon has over 70,000. Netflix is $9 a month unlimited, Amazon is $3.99 and up per title. Amazon does have the newer stuff

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Josh Luthman
Due to licensing Netflix only carries older movies that it can make more money on. The newer movies (like those just came out on DVD in the last few weeks, months). Redbox is able to get a better market (or maybe that it isn't instant/streaming and costs are less) and offer the newer movies.

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
That's what I'm deploying once UBNT beamsteering is out. Currently using MT and Canopy. I'll have fiber injection at more than 5 places in the network (1/3 of the APs). Will do more when I finish a couple more fiber deals. I don't expect to surpass 30 - 40 subs per AP, 40 MHz channels in 5

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
When you have 4 - 8 UBNT APs pushing up to 100 megs, backhaul becomes difficult. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:51 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Interesting. I don't see the backhaul being the problem, fiber or high cap BH's

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
If you can get your network running on 40MHz channels you will have done the impossible (IMO) Realistically 10MHz channels will do a little better than 25Mbps. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18,

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I haven't had issues with 40 MHz not passing 130 megabit on PtP. Remember that with the beamsteering, noise should be reduced as well. Having 8 dB more gain and reduced noise can only help immensely in a PtMP environment over standard sectors. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jerry Richardson
PtP is a whole different ballgame I hope you are right. I would love to hear a success story in the face of this onslaught of bandwidth consumption. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:58 AM

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread support
if your using 40mhz I sure hope you are upgrading to the new GPS units On 1/18/2011 2:04 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: PtP is a whole different ballgame I hope you are right. I would love to hear a success story in the face of this onslaught of bandwidth consumption. - Jerry From:

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Hammett
GPS will be available before the beamsteering units, and yes, I'll be using GPS. You'd be a fool not to. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 2:07 PM, support wrote: if your using 40mhz I sure hope you are upgrading to the new GPS units On

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Tom DeReggi
Without strict NetNeutrality laws, WISPs would have the flexibilty and leverage to make those kind of deals, for mutual benefit of both parties. However, not sure its cost effective to encourage increased Video usage for just $5 per month. I remember a tradeshow Session with CWLAbs on VOIP

Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix

2011-01-18 Thread Jeromie Reeves
The video will happen no matter what. Some of my areas I can do bit billing, some I can not (yet) and might not ever be able to (dsl at acceptable speeds). Packaging netflix (or any other in demand video product) will let me raise the price of that product. This would give me a foot for some