RE: Alvarion (was Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?)

2007-10-14 Thread Charles Wu
Patrick, It is my understanding that there isn't a 3.5 GHz profile for 802.16e... -Charles ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 -

RE: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-12 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
, October 09, 2007 11:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax? There specs said 36dbm ( 5 watts ) I thought On Oct 7, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: I think it was 300Mil, not 5. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256

RE: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-12 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax? There specs said 36dbm ( 5 watts ) I thought On Oct 7, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: I think it was 300Mil, not 5. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original

Re: Alvarion (was Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?)

2007-10-11 Thread Matt Liotta
Patrick Leary wrote: On the Cisco note Matt, Cisco is making ASN gateways for WiMAX and so far the only ones they have slide into our WiMAX macro base stations, so we have and are doing considerable work with them to integrate some of their pieces into ours. Can you expand on that? The Cisco

RE: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-10 Thread Patrick Leary
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax? All, Again, remember that patrick works for 1 company while I personally have the freedom as a consumer to talk to EVERYONE making equipment. yes a licensed version will look like an unlicensed, but will be just limited in output

Alvarion (was Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?)

2007-10-10 Thread Matt Liotta
Now that we have read your post regarding Alvarion's market leading position and your insight into the entire market, I'd like to know your thoughts on using WiMAX in 5Ghz and 3.65Ghz. It is fair to say that most readers of this list won't be gaining access to the ideal spectrum profiles for

Re: Alvarion (was Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?)

2007-10-10 Thread Dylan Oliver
This isn't the wireless line card, but several vendors at WiMax World were showing off the Cisco ASN Gateway (or at least a 7600 with a SAMI card): http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps8738/products_data_sheet0900aecd806cdb72.html But you probably knew that. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity,

RE: Alvarion (was Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?)

2007-10-10 Thread Patrick Leary
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Alvarion (was Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?) Now that we have read your post regarding Alvarion's market leading position and your insight

Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-09 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
muliple operating frequency overlay- MOFO Atca ( telco term for a standard they use for rack mounted blade base station equipment, with interoperability, you can potentially have a base station unit with a Airspan blade for 3.65, an aperto blade for 5.4, and an alvarion blade for 5.8 )

Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-09 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax? All, Bear in mind, Clearwire uses their own base station technology, which is mostly Nextnet base stations ( now motorola ) . Nextnet's

Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-09 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 3:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax? 802.16e in 5.8ghz would be absolutely the biggest waste of money ever as you

RE: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-08 Thread Patrick Leary
, 2007 3:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax? 802.16e in 5.8ghz would be absolutely the biggest waste of money ever as you wouldn't get a true mobile network but your network costs would be around, yaknow, 300k for a market of 20k people for just

Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-07 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
All, Bear in mind, Clearwire uses their own base station technology, which is mostly Nextnet base stations ( now motorola ) . Nextnet's performance is not wimax, just really high power base stations and CPE. 4 QAM / 2 WATT output power / 8dbi directional antenna on the CPE and I think around 10

Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-07 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
802.16e in 5.8ghz would be absolutely the biggest waste of money ever as you wouldn't get a true mobile network but your network costs would be around, yaknow, 300k for a market of 20k people for just BASE station equipment. The way to go if you are really worried about upward

Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-07 Thread Dylan Oliver
MOFO? ATCA? SDR? On 10/6/07, Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 802.16e in 5.8ghz would be absolutely the biggest waste of money ever as you wouldn't get a true mobile network but your network costs would be around, yaknow, 300k for a market of 20k people for just BASE station

RE: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-07 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
, 2007 6:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax? All, Bear in mind, Clearwire uses their own base station technology, which is mostly Nextnet base stations ( now motorola ) . Nextnet's performance is not wimax, just really high power base stations and CPE

RE: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-07 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
: Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax? All, Bear in mind, Clearwire uses their own base station technology, which is mostly Nextnet base stations ( now motorola ) . Nextnet's performance is not wimax, just really high power base stations and CPE. 4 QAM / 2 WATT output power / 8dbi

RE: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-07 Thread Rick Harnish
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax? MOFO? ATCA? SDR? On 10/6/07, Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 802.16e in 5.8ghz would be absolutely the biggest waste of money ever as you wouldn't get a true mobile network but your network costs would

Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-07 Thread Senthil
My guess is it's MOTO a typo. try googling you should find the answer. Senthil Dylan Oliver wrote: MOFO? ATCA? SDR? ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** **

Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-04 Thread dougr
2.5 has great range penetration. ClearWire, as an example, had solid indoor coverage 2 miles away. I live in an apartment complex thats out of coverage area, and it still works - I'm in the bottom floor of an apartment complex, my unit has another unit behind it, a 4 acre forest conservation

RE: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-04 Thread Patrick Leary
John, The 2.5 GHz will push better for two reasons, one the power is higher, and two, the product sophistication is much higher, with multiple diversity options to dramatically improve link budgets. Tower height is the same you'd plan for with 2.4 GHz. CPE choices will range from outdoor mounted

RE: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?

2007-10-04 Thread Patrick Leary
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax? 2.5 has great range penetration. ClearWire, as an example, had solid indoor coverage 2 miles away. I live in an apartment complex thats out of coverage