Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-04 Thread Chris Hudson
I have the whole 59.0.0.0/8 and 61.0.0.0/8 input chain dropped on my core router... Chris - Original Message - From: Robert West To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 4:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Just had to deal with

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-03 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 22:38 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: Compliments of Butch Evans This script doesn't look like my work. Not sure who it is, but I would ordinarily comment every rule. If it IS mine (and I have put a lot of these snippets out there), then I apologize for lack of comments. :-)

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-03 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 12:57 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: It doesn't answer anything. You can't configure anything. It screws up what you have set. Hate it. I would like to see an html copy of winbox, but that's a dream. ROS V5 includes webfig, which is winbox in a browser. With a v5 router,

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Probably was not one for one but I am quite certain the concept was yours. On Oct 3, 2010 11:01 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 22:38 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: Compliments of Butch Evans This script doesn't look like my work. Not sure who it is, but I would

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Scott Lambert
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 04:00:05PM -0700, Tom Sharples wrote: I've often wondered, is it legal for the receipient of this sort of thing, to retailiate with e.g. ping or curl storms? No. Flat no. And most of the time, your retaliation would be against some poor schmuck who simply hasn't kept

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Tom Sharples
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 04:00:05PM -0700, Tom Sharples wrote: I've often wondered, is it legal for the receipient of this sort of thing, to retailiate with e.g. ping or curl storms? No. Flat no. And most of the time, your retaliation

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Robert West
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 10:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Compliments of Butch Evans /ip firewal filt add action=accept chain=forward comment=drop ssh brute forcers disabled

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Greg Ihnen
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway I like it but what if the ip is being masqueraded? On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: I've often wondered, is it legal for the receipient of this sort of thing, to retailiate with e.g. ping

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Robert West
Where is that located in the interface? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 9:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway That script should

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Robert West
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sharples Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 3:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Most of the attacks we've seen have been from Chinese and eastern European IPs. I suppose

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Luthman Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 10:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Compliments of Butch Evans /ip firewal filt add action=accept chain=forward comment=drop ssh brute forcers disabled=\ no dst-port=22 protocol=tcp src-address

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Robert West
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 10:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Compliments of Butch Evans /ip firewal filt add action=accept chain=forward comment=drop ssh brute forcers

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Josh Luthman
had to but wasn't comfortable with it at all. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway The MT webbox

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Jon Auer
The new web admin in 5.0 looks like a web clone of winbox. On Oct 2, 2010 11:57 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: It doesn't answer anything. You can't configure anything. It screws up what you have set. Hate it. I would like to see an html copy of winbox, but that's a

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Greg Ihnen
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway The MT webbox causes cancer it is so terrible. On Oct 2, 2010 9:08 AM, Greg Ihnen

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 10:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Compliments of Butch Evans /ip

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway The MT webbox causes cancer it is so terrible. On Oct 2, 2010 9:08 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: That script should be the MT default when

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Jeromie Reeves
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 10:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Compliments of Butch Evans /ip firewal filt add action=accept chain=forward comment=drop ssh

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Josh Luthman
to but wasn't comfortable with it at all. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway The MT webbox

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
On 10/02/2010 05:58 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: New laptops don't have java. Flash is one library and takes second to install. Launch speeds are of no comparison, flash is way faster. Takes a lot of time to warm up the virtual engine. I find flash a PITA. java is one download off java.com;

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Josh Luthman
My experience is the total opposite and I think the world agrees with me. Youtube videos, games, ads, etc. On Oct 2, 2010 6:22 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff wa4...@backwoodswireless.net wrote: WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Philip Dorr
HTML5 is better than either java or flash. On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: My experience is the total opposite and I think the world agrees with me. Youtube videos, games, ads, etc. On Oct 2, 2010 6:22 PM, Leon D. Zetekoff

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Josh Luthman
That's what I'm saying! On Oct 2, 2010 6:57 PM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com wrote: HTML5 is better than either java or flash. On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: My experience is the total opposite and I think the world agrees with me.

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Jeromie Reeves
: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway The MT webbox causes cancer it is so terrible. On Oct 2, 2010 9:08 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: That script should be the MT default when one checks

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Robert West
! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 10:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Bob, If memory serves me correct - you do not have a central

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Greg Ihnen
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 12:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway But thinking back on it, imagine the “Damn it!” looks on their faces if they DID get in only

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Glenn Kelley
to themselves! Now THAT would be hilarious!!! Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 12:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway But thinking back

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Ryan Goldberg
...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 12:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway But thinking back on it, imagine the “Damn it!” looks on their faces

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Greg Ihnen
:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway But thinking back on it, imagine the “Damn it!” looks on their faces if they DID get in only to find a nothing Mikrotik routerboard! LOL, it would be funny to have something connected that did

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Robert West
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway The new web admin in 5.0 looks like a web clone of winbox. On Oct 2, 2010 11:57 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: It doesn't answer anything. You can't configure anything. It screws up what you have set

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Robert West
:58 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway I asked them about a Java client a long time ago and they nixed it.. Said there was a Windoze client and it could run under Wine. But I was looking at other platforms. The biggest problem with Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Robert West
: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway The MT webbox causes cancer it is so terrible. On Oct 2, 2010 9:08 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: That script should be the MT default when one checks the protect router check box in the web UI. Greg On Oct 2

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Robert West
Agreed. Easy download though and yes, it can have issues. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 5:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway New

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Robert West
But not on the iPhone J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 6:32 PM To: WISPA General List; wa4...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway My experience

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-02 Thread Robert West
The price is now 6.2 cents by the way. Inflation. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 8:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway IP Spoofing

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Jon Auer
Two options you may want to consider: a) automatic blacklist scripts: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Bruteforce_login_prevention b) firewalling off external access to your network management services On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Just had to deal

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Robert West
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Two options you may want to consider: a) automatic blacklist scripts: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Bruteforce_login_prevention b) firewalling off external access to your network management services On Fri, Oct 1, 2010

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Greg Ihnen
Are you not using the brute force protection from the wiki? I use it on the ports I must keep open. Three strikes they're out. Greg On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Robert West wrote: Just had to deal with a brute force attack on a MT router acting as a gateway. Came from these two IP

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Tom Sharples
I've often wondered, is it legal for the receipient of this sort of thing, to retailiate with e.g. ping or curl storms? Tom S. - Original Message - From: Robert West To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
How about an 'interactive script' that detects such attacks and automatically black lists them... ? Now, now now.. what would you do with all that free time ? - http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Bruteforce_login_prevention - Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/1/2010 5:57

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread RickG
I like it but what if the ip is being masqueraded? On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: I've often wondered, is it legal for the receipient of this sort of thing, to retailiate with e.g. ping or curl storms? Tom S. - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Glenn Kelley
why not just block china (and other countries) from access unless it is something opened first from inside the network ? Would make a big difference :-) On Oct 1, 2010, at 9:28 PM, RickG wrote: 61.155.5.247

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Glenn Kelley
Bob, If memory serves me correct - you do not have a central network - is that right? instead your just using multiple pops via cable modems? If that is the case - it might be a bit more difficult - on the other hand - if you have switched to a central network (or have this in some places)

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Robert West
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 10:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Bob, If memory serves me correct - you do not have a central network - is that right? instead your just using

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Robert West
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Bob, If memory serves me correct - you do not have a central network - is that right? instead your just using multiple pops via cable modems? If that is the case - it might be a bit more difficult - on the other hand

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Robert West
Yeah? Send me that link, dude! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 6:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Are you not using the brute force

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Robert West
Why not?! Who would prevail if it ever came to a court?! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sharples Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 7:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway I've often

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Robert West
7:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway How about an 'interactive script' that detects such attacks and automatically black lists them... ? Now, now now.. what would you do with all that free time ? - http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Robert West
Then we'll just send the pigeons over to poop on them. Easy. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:29 PM To: Tom Sharples; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Josh Luthman
just send the pigeons over to poop on them. Easy. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 9:29 PM *To:* Tom Sharples; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Greg Ihnen
: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:29 PM To: Tom Sharples; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway I like it but what if the ip is being masqueraded? On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: I've often wondered, is it legal

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Greg Ihnen
, 2010 6:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Are you not using the brute force protection from the wiki? I use it on the ports I must keep open. Three strikes they're out. Greg On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Robert West wrote: Just

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Josh Luthman
, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Robert West wrote: Yeah? Send me that link, dude! *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Ihnen *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 6:06 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Greg Ihnen
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Are you not using the brute force protection from the wiki? I use it on the ports I must keep open. Three strikes they're out. Greg On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Robert West wrote: Just had to deal with a brute

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Josh Luthman
, 2010, at 9:55 PM, Robert West wrote: Yeah? Send me that link, dude! *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Ihnen *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 6:06 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread RickG
:* Friday, October 01, 2010 9:29 PM *To:* Tom Sharples; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway I like it but what if the ip is being masqueraded? On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: I've often wondered, is it legal

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread RickG
*Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 9:29 PM *To:* Tom Sharples; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway I like it but what if the ip is being masqueraded? On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: I've often wondered

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread RickG
:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Glenn Kelley *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 10:00 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Bob, If memory serves me correct - you do not have a central

Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway

2010-10-01 Thread Robert West
Very nice! Thanks, dude! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 10:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brute Force Attack on Mikrotik Gateway Compliments of Butch Evans /ip firewal