Re: [WISPA] Would like to purchase some RF glasses...

2009-10-27 Thread Jayson Baker
Multipath interference from the tree. On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:01 PM, John Vogel jvo...@vogent.net wrote: So... I have a customer, been on for a couple of years now. The CPE on their home quit working. I go to check it out, log into the CPE from their computer, everything looks good, except

Re: [WISPA] Would like to purchase some RF glasses...

2009-10-27 Thread Scott Reed
Or the tree is no longer blocking multi-path interference. Jayson Baker wrote: Multipath interference from the tree. On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:01 PM, John Vogel jvo...@vogent.net wrote: So... I have a customer, been on for a couple of years now. The CPE on their home quit working. I go

Re: [WISPA] Would like to purchase some RF glasses...

2009-10-27 Thread John Vogel
The terrain between the AP and the CPE is such that I would ordinarily consider it a slam-dunk. Standing there on the ground next to the house and looking at the (almost) clear view of the tower, with nothing in between that I would consider to be capable of creating multi-path reflections, my

Re: [WISPA] Would like to purchase some RF glasses...

2009-10-27 Thread Larry Yunker
and thereby avoiding a multipath bounce. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Vogel Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Would like to purchase some RF glasses

Re: [WISPA] Would like to purchase some RF glasses...

2009-10-27 Thread Scott Reed
The multipath you are describing is that in which the signal arrives from two paths slightly out of phase. If the path length of the reflected signal is just right, the signal arrives 180 degrees out of phase, thus canceling the direct signal. Google Moire Pattern for examples of how this

Re: [WISPA] Would like to purchase some RF glasses...

2009-10-27 Thread Scott Reed
Actually, while Moire is relavent, this wiki page does a better job. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interference_%28wave_propagation%29 Notice just above the Examples heading, the 2 waves combine to produce a zero net result. Scott Reed wrote: The multipath you are describing is that in which the

Re: [WISPA] Would like to purchase some RF glasses...

2009-10-27 Thread ccrum
It's possible, too that the tree was helping you by adding a diffracting object to the path. I once saw a uW link in Germany that had to go over a sharp mountain peak. There was no way to get a repeater or even a reflector up there, so they used the peak to diffract the signal to the other