RE: [WISPA] [WISPBONE] our first connection to another WISP
I'm in northern PA - Stroudsburg / Milford areas. Moving south, but not THAT far south :) Talk to Tim Wolfe - might be a player interested. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rudolph Worrell Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] [WISPBONE] our first connection to another WISP Rick, I am in VA and WV, we can talk since WV borders PA. -- Rudolph Worrell President Phone:(540)667-2672 Fax:(270)458-6431 www.wave2net.com Quoting Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd be interested in starting a wispbone node in NJ / PA / NYC This is what we ALL should be doing - help all by helping one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 5:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] [WISPBONE] our first connection to another WISP I thought the list might be interested to know that yesterday we turned up a 73 mile link to a new WISP starting up in Dalton, GA. This is our first connection to another WISP and while the 73 mile 45Mbps link took some planning and a good amount of leg work, it ended up quite well. Not only was the WISP in question able to benefit from our lower bandwidth and voice costs available in Atlanta, but we were able to get access to the local LEC for savings on voice termination in the area. Additionally, we now have the ability to sell wholesale routes in an expanded coverage area to our existing CLEC customers. Our next step is to help this WISP get going and introduce them to WISPA. If any other WISPs are in the southeast, let's look at connecting. We currently have plans to buildout into Tennessee and Alabama. Matt Liotta AirInfinite, Inc. www.AirInfinite.com 877-WiFi-NOW x803 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 9/14/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 9/14/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: [isp-clec] Latest FCC outrage -- no UNEs AT ALL in Omaha]
I disagree and I certainly am not interested in seeing CLECs get into the WISP business. I see CLECs as execution companies. They need to have great sales, marketing, and operations, but they do really need to own facilities connecting them to their customers. I see WISPs as operators capable of providing CLECs with facilities to connect to their customers. Such a partnership can result in great mutual benefits along with creating a force that can rival RBOCs. Partner with your local CLEC and help them succeed in the market. Don't let your local CLEC become a WISP. -Matt George wrote: The writing is on the wall. Be a wisp or be dead.. George This is a posting by one of the industry leaders via the isp-clec list. Original Message Subject: [isp-clec] Latest FCC outrage -- no UNEs AT ALL in Omaha Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:10:12 -0400 From: Fred R. Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: isp-clec@isp-clec.com To: isp-clec@isp-clec.com The FCC today granted a Qwest petition to forbear from enforcing its obligations as an ILEC in 9 of the 24 wire centers in the Omaha MSA. This means NO UNEs at all, no raw copper loops, no IOF, no nuttin'. The FCC justifies this on the basis that Cox has invested heavily in its cable plant, thereby providing an intermodal competitor. This means that any CLEC that has invested money in collocated equipment in that area is hereby Out Of Business. What a flagrant flouting of the Telecom Act! Section 271 obligations to provide loops and transport still remain in effect, but not subject to Section 251 cost-based rates -- only just and reasonable prices, which are generally interpreted to be any outrageous gouge that an ILEC can whimsically come up with. The FCC has also waived the price caps on its Exchange Access services across the MSA, allowing Qwest to gouge other carriers (especially IXCs) -- even though intercarrier compensation is supposedly at the top of the FCC's agenda. IANAL, but this strikes me as not only a flagrant violation of the Telecom Act, but as a possible Taking under the Fifth Amendment. I would love to testify against Qwest and the FCC in a judicial review of this one -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ __ ISPCON Fall 2005 - October 18-20, Santa Clara, CA FREE EXHIBITS ONLY PASS AVAILABLE NOW! www.ispcon.com ISPCON in Baltimore was jumping! Sign up NOW for the fall event in Santa Clara.. don't miss a minute! _ The ISP-CLEC Discussion List _ To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-clec/archives/ To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. Copyright 2005 Jupitermedia Corporation All Rights Reserved. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Network World article sent by Mike Delp
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Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: [isp-clec] Latest FCC outrage -- no UNEs AT ALL inOmaha]
My fear, is the goal is also there to take away the ability for many to become a WISP. Under the directon we are going now, it means harsh competition in our own WISP markets, with 1000s of competitors, while monopolies only have one other. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:36 PM Subject: [WISPA] [Fwd: [isp-clec] Latest FCC outrage -- no UNEs AT ALL inOmaha] The writing is on the wall. Be a wisp or be dead.. George This is a posting by one of the industry leaders via the isp-clec list. Original Message Subject: [isp-clec] Latest FCC outrage -- no UNEs AT ALL in Omaha Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:10:12 -0400 From: Fred R. Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: isp-clec@isp-clec.com To: isp-clec@isp-clec.com The FCC today granted a Qwest petition to forbear from enforcing its obligations as an ILEC in 9 of the 24 wire centers in the Omaha MSA. This means NO UNEs at all, no raw copper loops, no IOF, no nuttin'. The FCC justifies this on the basis that Cox has invested heavily in its cable plant, thereby providing an intermodal competitor. This means that any CLEC that has invested money in collocated equipment in that area is hereby Out Of Business. What a flagrant flouting of the Telecom Act! Section 271 obligations to provide loops and transport still remain in effect, but not subject to Section 251 cost-based rates -- only just and reasonable prices, which are generally interpreted to be any outrageous gouge that an ILEC can whimsically come up with. The FCC has also waived the price caps on its Exchange Access services across the MSA, allowing Qwest to gouge other carriers (especially IXCs) -- even though intercarrier compensation is supposedly at the top of the FCC's agenda. IANAL, but this strikes me as not only a flagrant violation of the Telecom Act, but as a possible Taking under the Fifth Amendment. I would love to testify against Qwest and the FCC in a judicial review of this one -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ __ ISPCON Fall 2005 - October 18-20, Santa Clara, CA FREE EXHIBITS ONLY PASS AVAILABLE NOW! www.ispcon.com ISPCON in Baltimore was jumping! Sign up NOW for the fall event in Santa Clara.. don't miss a minute! _ The ISP-CLEC Discussion List _ To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-clec/archives/ To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. Copyright 2005 Jupitermedia Corporation All Rights Reserved. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: [isp-clec] Latest FCC outrage -- no UNEs AT ALLin Omaha]
I agree with you that right now it is a real estate land grab for WISPs. We much all secure the best real estate with leases that protect our use of spectrum. We pay a premium to ensure that every site we are on has the entire unlicensed spectrum allocated to us. It doesn't stop anyone from using the spectrum at other locations, but we have the best locations, which hopefully is a high enough barrier to entry. Also, offering attractive wholesale rates provides yet another barrier to entry. We have even gone as far to entering into revenue share agreements with MTU managers that allocate us the spectrum as well. Most recently this gave us exclusive access to unlicensed spectrum on 106 buildings throughout Atlanta. -Matt Tom DeReggi wrote: I agree with you. However, I believe most CLECs will end up building out their own wireless, just because they can. The barrier to entry/build is much less when considering wireless. Our strategy was to wholesale, and buy the prime broadcast spots, so our ability to get line of sight, secured our position, just as CLECs secure their position with their legal status and assets in place. Wether the WISP industry will survive depends on how well WISPs can manage to keep there network, and wholesale to other ISPs. If everyone deploys it will self destruct. I also think that many CLECs or ISPs, will just quit, because they are tired and had enough, and starting over again is jsut over welming to them, considering they would be late entries into the wireless game. Or instead, they will migrate to service and content providers, not connectivity providers. Its also likely that larger CLECs may start the aquisition and consilidation efforts. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: [isp-clec] Latest FCC outrage -- no UNEs AT ALLin Omaha] I disagree and I certainly am not interested in seeing CLECs get into the WISP business. I see CLECs as execution companies. They need to have great sales, marketing, and operations, but they do really need to own facilities connecting them to their customers. I see WISPs as operators capable of providing CLECs with facilities to connect to their customers. Such a partnership can result in great mutual benefits along with creating a force that can rival RBOCs. Partner with your local CLEC and help them succeed in the market. Don't let your local CLEC become a WISP. -Matt George wrote: The writing is on the wall. Be a wisp or be dead.. George This is a posting by one of the industry leaders via the isp-clec list. Original Message Subject: [isp-clec] Latest FCC outrage -- no UNEs AT ALL in Omaha Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:10:12 -0400 From: Fred R. Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: isp-clec@isp-clec.com To: isp-clec@isp-clec.com The FCC today granted a Qwest petition to forbear from enforcing its obligations as an ILEC in 9 of the 24 wire centers in the Omaha MSA. This means NO UNEs at all, no raw copper loops, no IOF, no nuttin'. The FCC justifies this on the basis that Cox has invested heavily in its cable plant, thereby providing an intermodal competitor. This means that any CLEC that has invested money in collocated equipment in that area is hereby Out Of Business. What a flagrant flouting of the Telecom Act! Section 271 obligations to provide loops and transport still remain in effect, but not subject to Section 251 cost-based rates -- only just and reasonable prices, which are generally interpreted to be any outrageous gouge that an ILEC can whimsically come up with. The FCC has also waived the price caps on its Exchange Access services across the MSA, allowing Qwest to gouge other carriers (especially IXCs) -- even though intercarrier compensation is supposedly at the top of the FCC's agenda. IANAL, but this strikes me as not only a flagrant violation of the Telecom Act, but as a possible Taking under the Fifth Amendment. I would love to testify against Qwest and the FCC in a judicial review of this one -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ __ ISPCON Fall 2005 - October 18-20, Santa Clara, CA FREE EXHIBITS ONLY PASS AVAILABLE NOW! www.ispcon.com ISPCON in Baltimore was jumping! Sign up NOW for the fall event in Santa Clara.. don't miss a minute! _ The ISP-CLEC Discussion List _ To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-clec/archives/ To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: [isp-clec] Latest FCC outrage -- no UNEs ATALLin Omaha]
Let's think about this. Do you really think the FCC cares about the WISP? Who is going to be the largest wireless providers left standing after the pending mergers? Ok, I'll wait(Jeopardy theme). Do you really think the BOC's are going to make it easy for WISP's to stay competitive? Ok, backhaul comes from where? Even if you do business with CLEC's their costs are going to go up and so will their customers. They will keep squeezing and squeezing the life out of the competitive provider until flat line. Let's face it, we have a paid off administration, in the terms of a lobbied congress who in turn pushes the agencies button. Let's just look at one, the FCC and its Chairman, who sold out the competitive market for his own well being. Let's face it. When he was the thorn in the former chairman's side and then became a possible candidate, I'll assume the opinion he was taken to the wood shed by the administration and told to hold the party line, or not get the top job to pad his resume for the private market after life. He now has a 22 commission with two lame duck commissioners, one wanting to keep HIS job, the other one, SHE can't wait to get out. The chairman's own term is up next June and that puts him into a position to look out for his own well being. You know, 38 with wife and kids. I'll also assume that he did they same thing to the one commissioner wanting reappointment as was done to himself. He has to do as much as he can with a 22 commission, because he can not afford another clone of his former self to get one of the open positions. He is doing as much damage as he can to the competitive providers as he can get away with. Honestly, I don't know how people can work under his regime and sleep at night. Oh, and one more thing. Let's see what happens when wireless is pushed under the wireline division at the FCC. Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with you. However, I believe most CLECs will end up building out their own wireless, just because they can. The barrier to entry/build is much less when considering wireless. Our strategy was to wholesale, and buy the prime broadcast spots, so our ability to get line of sight, secured our position, just as CLECs secure their position with their legal status and assets in place. Wether the WISP industry will survive depends on how well WISPs can manage to keep there network, and wholesale to other ISPs. If everyone deploys it will self destruct. I also think that many CLECs or ISPs, will just quit, because they are tired and had enough, and starting over again is jsut over welming to them, considering they would be late entries into the wireless game. Or instead, they will migrate to service and content providers, not connectivity providers. Its also likely that larger CLECs may start the aquisition and consilidation efforts. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: [isp-clec] Latest FCC outrage -- no UNEs ATALLin Omaha]
Frank Muto wrote: Do you really think the BOC's are going to make it easy for WISP's to stay competitive? Ok, backhaul comes from where? Even if you do business with CLEC's their costs are going to go up and so will their customers. They will keep squeezing and squeezing the life out of the competitive provider until flat line. We don't backhaul a single thing with a LEC of any kind. We either backhaul it ourselves or we use a fiber provider. I say let the RBOCs squeeze the CLECs. It only means good news for WISPs. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mesh Networks
Ron Wallace wrote: Hey Guys, Does anyone know anything about Mesh Dynamics http://www.meshdynamics.com/. i.e. Price of devices or any other information? Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson St. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517) 547-8410 Mobile: (517) 605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, but I thought I just heard somewhere, maybe star-os list, that this is a better mesh system because of the separate radios. Lonnie at star-os is getting ready to release a multi radio mesh system. This product was mentioned there. I like the idea of having a backhaul only mesh for redundancy and a separate mesh for the customers. Now how well this product works, I dunno. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: [isp-clec] Latest FCC outrage -- no UNEs AT ALLinOmaha]
Its not hard to be a WISP. Actually its 7000 competitors (ISPs). However it will be hard for any of them to survive, when competition needs to split the spectrum. The hope is that first man in, survives, and everyone bows out nicely, because they'd start out just interfering, and never have a QOS offerable. I'm not saying the WISP market is dead, I'm betting everything I own on it. I'm jsut saying policy could really change the rules of this game to survive. 1 year ago, I would have said that the ILECs were on their way to a slow death, but recent policy has changed that to the opposite direction. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: [isp-clec] Latest FCC outrage -- no UNEs AT ALLinOmaha] Who will be the 1000s of competitors if it's hard to be a WISP? Will you explain it to me a little more? Tom DeReggi wrote: My fear, is the goal is also there to take away the ability for many to become a WISP. Under the directon we are going now, it means harsh competition in our own WISP markets, with 1000s of competitors, while monopolies only have one other. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:36 PM Subject: [WISPA] [Fwd: [isp-clec] Latest FCC outrage -- no UNEs AT ALL inOmaha] The writing is on the wall. Be a wisp or be dead.. George This is a posting by one of the industry leaders via the isp-clec list. Original Message Subject: [isp-clec] Latest FCC outrage -- no UNEs AT ALL in Omaha Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:10:12 -0400 From: Fred R. Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: isp-clec@isp-clec.com To: isp-clec@isp-clec.com The FCC today granted a Qwest petition to forbear from enforcing its obligations as an ILEC in 9 of the 24 wire centers in the Omaha MSA. This means NO UNEs at all, no raw copper loops, no IOF, no nuttin'. The FCC justifies this on the basis that Cox has invested heavily in its cable plant, thereby providing an intermodal competitor. This means that any CLEC that has invested money in collocated equipment in that area is hereby Out Of Business. What a flagrant flouting of the Telecom Act! Section 271 obligations to provide loops and transport still remain in effect, but not subject to Section 251 cost-based rates -- only just and reasonable prices, which are generally interpreted to be any outrageous gouge that an ILEC can whimsically come up with. The FCC has also waived the price caps on its Exchange Access services across the MSA, allowing Qwest to gouge other carriers (especially IXCs) -- even though intercarrier compensation is supposedly at the top of the FCC's agenda. IANAL, but this strikes me as not only a flagrant violation of the Telecom Act, but as a possible Taking under the Fifth Amendment. I would love to testify against Qwest and the FCC in a judicial review of this one -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ __ ISPCON Fall 2005 - October 18-20, Santa Clara, CA FREE EXHIBITS ONLY PASS AVAILABLE NOW! www.ispcon.com ISPCON in Baltimore was jumping! Sign up NOW for the fall event in Santa Clara.. don't miss a minute! _ The ISP-CLEC Discussion List _ To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-clec/archives/ To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. Copyright 2005 Jupitermedia Corporation All Rights Reserved. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
