Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless
At 07:34 AM 3/24/2006, you wrote: John, When are we going to see some of the new CPE boards on the market? I forgot their number :-) Hello Mac, I can't tell you the details - I wish I could. There will be a new one announced and demonstrated at the MUM! John mum.mikrotik.com Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4228 318.303.4229 - Original Message - From: "John Tully" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless At 06:53 AM 3/24/2006, you wrote: John, When will we see something with a little more CPU power in an RB style configuration? 800mhz would be nice. ;) We have projects in design now, but we only announce details just before we are going into mass production -- and I don't have an estimate for that either! John www.mikrotik.com Travis Microserv John Tully wrote: What happened to the RB512's ?? Not enough demand, it seems that people are happy to pay the additional dollars for the full RB532. For those that used the RB512, the RB112 may be a suitable alternative. John mum.mikrotik.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > Behalf Of John Tully > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:16 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Muni wireless > > At 01:39 PM 3/23/2006, you wrote: > >Have you released any pricing for a 2 and 3 radio system? > > Hello Chris, > > You can current buy the RB112 for $99 list price -- one Ethernet and > two > mpci. The RB532 with the RB502 has four mpci and three Eth -- I guess the > price is something like $185 list together. > > They will both be software upgradable. The examples you will see at > the > MUM do not have the no config support. This is in development now. > > John > www.mikrotik.com > > > > If I could add a > >word based on experience with more expensive systems- more control > >is > >better. An easy or auto install system needs to give the provider > >every > >option to inject control at every level. Lots of monitoring stats > >on > both > >link and service side are great also. > > > >Thanks > >Chris > > > > > > >>Hello John, > > >> > > >>MikroTik is currently developing the biggest feature of mesh -- > > >>easy > to > > >>install systems (no configuration required) that have a radio (or > more) > > >>for local and a radio (or more) for backbone. This will enable > > >>WISP > to > > >>compete better with the expensive Strix and other MESH systems. > > >>You > will > > >>hear more about this at the MikroTik user meeting in Dallas - > > >>mum.mikrotik.com . > > >> > > >>John > > >>www.mikrotik.com > > > > > >-- > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Trango any good?
Ouch. Does this also apply to the Fox 5800 and 5300 units or just the Atlas Fox series? Chris Intelliwave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15747910 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.0/290 - Release Date: 3/23/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] [Fwd: question from left field...]
Attention Maine WISPs, Here is a message from Lisa in Maine with a tower for rent. Lisa is not a member of these lists. Please direct any correspondence offlist as we do not all need to read the discussion about renting a tower. All the best, Scriv Original Message Subject:question from left field... Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:21:31 -0800 From: Lisa Menconi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi John, My name is Lisa and I am curious about the world of WISPs. I have NO background at all relating to any sort of ISP. I am an accountant, of all things! Anyway, I happen to be an accountant for radio broadcasting and we are moving one of our FM antennas and may have tower space available in Northern Maine. I read an article about WISPs and it seems that the rural area where our tower is located could likely benefit dramatically from WISP technology. How would I go about finding a potential Lessee in need of tower space for his/her WISP in Northern New England? I understand that you are probably a very busy man who is not in the business of spoon feeding someone WISP information—especially someone you don’t even know. If you happen to know who or where I might ask about WISPs in Northern New England as to who may be looking for tower space, I would greatly appreciate it. I have no idea how to pursue this avenue as I have never explored it before. Any time you could spare to guide me in some direction would be much obliged. Sincerely, Lisa Menconi **Lisa Menconi** **Menconi Consulting** (530) 887-9090 (530) 887-9040 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless
If ONLY someone would build my roaming wifi cpe! It'll be THE next big thing. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni wireless Munis are just your hometown wanting service just like residents, business and education. As soon as we learn this we will all benefit from it greatly. Public safety specifically is the killer application of muni broadband in my opinion. If we all learn how to sell this to our towns and service it correctly we will inevitably win in the end. Backhaul to munis who decide to go it alone is also an option. I would bet most if not all of them would pay for a service agreement on their networks also. Maybe they will pay you to build their network for them? Scriv Matt Liotta wrote: I personally don't much care for Muni wireless as I would rather the government stay out of the ISP business. With that being said, Rome, GA announced that GTS had won the the contract to install a wireless system for the city. See http://muniwireless.com/municipal/bids/1102/ for details on the announcement. What I thought the list might find interesting is that we (AirInfinite, now One Ring Networks) were included in GTS's bid and will now be providing backhaul for the wireless network. I believe this is an interesting approach for WISPs to take when dealing with munis that have an interest in wireless. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Sprint Wi-Fi
By Al Senia http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=314704 Municipal Wi-Fi networks are sprouting up around the United States, and it’s been independent ISPs such as EarthLink and Google that typically have struck deals with cities to provide wireless broadband access in an attempt to wrest market share from incumbent service providers. Now in an example of the “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em” mentality,” Sprint Nextel has entered into a 60-day trial with the Las Vegas suburb of Henderson, Nev. to launch a mesh Wi-Fi broadband network. The wireless service is primarily aimed at helping city officials and emergency responders work more efficiently in the field, although it will also be made available to every resident, visitor and business in the city of 175,000. Sprint views the trial as a learning experience. “We are doing this to better understand how people use it and to measure network performance,” explained one Sprint executive at the TelecomNext trade show, where the announcement was made this week. Like other service providers, Sprint is studying how to develop a Wi-Fi business model that can actually make a profit. (Sprint is covering the network’s cost, but it won’t reveal the amount of the investment.) Henderson Mayor James Gibson says police and fire personnel, as well as safety inspectors will heavily utilize the wireless system. The trial is being touted as the first municipal Wi-Fi trial of any magnitude carried out by a local operator in the US market. The Wi-Fi service is actually being operated by Sprint’s local communications business, which is expected to separate from the parent company later this year and operate under the name Embarq. What’s interesting about this situation is that Sprint is actually competing with itself since it offers PCS and EVDO service in the same service footprint. Of course, it’s not at all clear whether the Henderson trial will extend beyond the end of May. But if it does, Sprint could conceivable lose existing broadband customers to the new citywide broadband network. (It could also lose telephone customers to VoIP running over the network.) Of course, Sprint and other incumbent providers face the same problem battling the municipal networks in cities across the US. At least in Henderson’s case, Sprint can somewhat control the competitive fray, as well as lock out other Wi-Fi service providers. For these reasons, if this experiment extends beyond its initial date, it could serve as a model for incumbent telcos, especially if Sprint ends up with a business model that actually works and turns a profit. (Al Senia is the editor of America’s Network.) -- Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sprint Wi-Fi
don't these authors ever do any independent non spoon fed research? deep sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 11:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] Sprint Wi-Fi By Al Senia http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=314704 Municipal Wi-Fi networks are sprouting up around the United States, and it’s been independent ISPs such as EarthLink and Google that typically have struck deals with cities to provide wireless broadband access in an attempt to wrest market share from incumbent service providers. Now in an example of the “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em” mentality,” Sprint Nextel has entered into a 60-day trial with the Las Vegas suburb of Henderson, Nev. to launch a mesh Wi-Fi broadband network. The wireless service is primarily aimed at helping city officials and emergency responders work more efficiently in the field, although it will also be made available to every resident, visitor and business in the city of 175,000. Sprint views the trial as a learning experience. “We are doing this to better understand how people use it and to measure network performance,” explained one Sprint executive at the TelecomNext trade show, where the announcement was made this week. Like other service providers, Sprint is studying how to develop a Wi-Fi business model that can actually make a profit. (Sprint is covering the network’s cost, but it won’t reveal the amount of the investment.) Henderson Mayor James Gibson says police and fire personnel, as well as safety inspectors will heavily utilize the wireless system. The trial is being touted as the first municipal Wi-Fi trial of any magnitude carried out by a local operator in the US market. The Wi-Fi service is actually being operated by Sprint’s local communications business, which is expected to separate from the parent company later this year and operate under the name Embarq. What’s interesting about this situation is that Sprint is actually competing with itself since it offers PCS and EVDO service in the same service footprint. Of course, it’s not at all clear whether the Henderson trial will extend beyond the end of May. But if it does, Sprint could conceivable lose existing broadband customers to the new citywide broadband network. (It could also lose telephone customers to VoIP running over the network.) Of course, Sprint and other incumbent providers face the same problem battling the municipal networks in cities across the US. At least in Henderson’s case, Sprint can somewhat control the competitive fray, as well as lock out other Wi-Fi service providers. For these reasons, if this experiment extends beyond its initial date, it could serve as a model for incumbent telcos, especially if Sprint ends up with a business model that actually works and turns a profit. (Al Senia is the editor of America’s Network.) -- Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango any good?
What's inside the box doesn't matter, if it does the job in real world trials. There's not a radio on the market today that can out peform it (the M5580) at anywhere near that low a price point. I don't like terms like good, bad, best, etc. What Trango provides is value, and a working business model. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "chris cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:20 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango any good? Ouch. Does this also apply to the Fox 5800 and 5300 units or just the Atlas Fox series? Chris Intelliwave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango any good? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15747910 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.0/290 - Release Date: 3/23/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sprint Wi-Fi
Sadly, some "writers" don't even know how to have an independent thought, much less do independent research - just look at what the convential media "feeds" us every day. Besides, if a "writer" doesn't kiss the bosses ass, they won't have a job. This article really isn't too bad and it reminds us again that the incumbent telcos are a huge and constant threat to the survival of independent ISPs and WISPs. It also reminds us that WISPs who ignore the Muni Wi-Fi market do so at their own peril. Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: don't these authors ever do any independent non spoon fed research? deep sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 11:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] Sprint Wi-Fi By Al Senia http://www.americasnetwork.com/americasnetwork/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=314704 Municipal Wi-Fi networks are sprouting up around the United States, and it’s been independent ISPs such as EarthLink and Google that typically have struck deals with cities to provide wireless broadband access in an attempt to wrest market share from incumbent service providers. Now in an example of the “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em” mentality,” Sprint Nextel has entered into a 60-day trial with the Las Vegas suburb of Henderson, Nev. to launch a mesh Wi-Fi broadband network. The wireless service is primarily aimed at helping city officials and emergency responders work more efficiently in the field, although it will also be made available to every resident, visitor and business in the city of 175,000. Sprint views the trial as a learning experience. “We are doing this to better understand how people use it and to measure network performance,” explained one Sprint executive at the TelecomNext trade show, where the announcement was made this week. Like other service providers, Sprint is studying how to develop a Wi-Fi business model that can actually make a profit. (Sprint is covering the network’s cost, but it won’t reveal the amount of the investment.) Henderson Mayor James Gibson says police and fire personnel, as well as safety inspectors will heavily utilize the wireless system. The trial is being touted as the first municipal Wi-Fi trial of any magnitude carried out by a local operator in the US market. The Wi-Fi service is actually being operated by Sprint’s local communications business, which is expected to separate from the parent company later this year and operate under the name Embarq. What’s interesting about this situation is that Sprint is actually competing with itself since it offers PCS and EVDO service in the same service footprint. Of course, it’s not at all clear whether the Henderson trial will extend beyond the end of May. But if it does, Sprint could conceivable lose existing broadband customers to the new citywide broadband network. (It could also lose telephone customers to VoIP running over the network.) Of course, Sprint and other incumbent providers face the same problem battling the municipal networks in cities across the US. At least in Henderson’s case, Sprint can somewhat control the competitive fray, as well as lock out other Wi-Fi service providers. For these reasons, if this experiment extends beyond its initial date, it could serve as a model for incumbent telcos, especially if Sprint ends up with a business model that actually works and turns a profit. (Al Senia is the editor of America’s Network.) -- Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect & Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
