Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006

[Mark Koskenmaki]

Oh, come on...

Lonnie, you speak Canadian-eh?   and JohnnyO speaks Cajun-Redneck.

As such, everything he reads from you he responds negatively to, and
everyhing you read from him appears hostile.

Now, I doubt the WISPA board is going to try to intervene in a matter of a
Canadian-Eh? speaker and a Cajun-Redneck speaker having trouble appearing
civil, since it's mostly a matter of speaking different languages... but...

If neither of you would respond to the other, things would be peaceful-eh?




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- Original Message - 
From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006


> To the Board:
>
> Is this behaviour condoned?  Not only did he spam the list and use
> offensive language, but he now slanders all Canadian companies.
>
> Lonnie
>
> On 6/4/06, JohnnyO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ahhh my old good friend Lonnie :) How are you these days ? Get a clue
.
> > I did - don't buy from Canadian companies - they'll bend you over every
> > chance they get :)
> >
> > Prick : please see
> > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prick for a
> > better run down on the term Lonnie. I did watch my language. Don't be so
> > sensitive unless you fit the shoes...
> >
> > I know I do !
> >
> >
> > JohnnyO
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler
> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:53 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006
> >
> > If you object to spam as much as you say you do, then why on earth would
you
> > send that spam to a list?  Get a clue.  Also, watch your language.
> >
> > Lonnie
> >
> >
> > On 6/4/06, JohnnyO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone Else receiving these from these pricks ?
> > >
> > > JohnnyO
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: APGWireless Info [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:18 PM
> > > To: 'Chris Russell'
> > > Cc: WISPA General List
> > > Subject: RE: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006
> > >
> > >
> > > Please do NOT spam me any further in the future - I'd like to be
removed
> > from any and ALL lists ya'll have harvested from the WISP online
forum/lists
> > immediately. I've asked numerous times without any success.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > JohnnyO
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lonnie Nunweiler
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Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006

[Ron Wallace]

you guys slay me, chuckle, chuckle.>-Original Message->From: Lonnie Nunweiler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Monday, June 5, 2006 01:02 AM>To: 'WISPA General List'>Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006>>To the Board:>>Is this behaviour condoned? Not only did he spam the list and use>offensive language, but he now slanders all Canadian companies.>>Lonnie>>On 6/4/06, JohnnyO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Ahhh my old good friend Lonnie :) How are you these days ? Get a clue .>> I did - don't buy from Canadian companies - they'll bend you over every>> chance they get :) Prick : please see>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prick for a>> better run down on the term Lonnie. I did watch my language. Don't be so>> sensitive unless you fit the shoes... I know I do !>> JohnnyO -Original Message->> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On>> Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler>> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:53 PM>> To: WISPA General List>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006 If you object to spam as much as you say you do, then why on earth would you>> send that spam to a list? Get a clue. Also, watch your language. Lonnie>> On 6/4/06, JohnnyO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> >>> >>> >>> > Anyone Else receiving these from these pricks ?>> >>> > JohnnyO>> >>> >>> >>> > -Original Message->> > From: APGWireless Info [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:18 PM>> > To: 'Chris Russell'>> > Cc: WISPA General List>> > Subject: RE: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006>> >>> >>> > Please do NOT spam me any further in the future - I'd like to be removed>> from any and ALL lists ya'll have harvested from the WISP online forum/lists>> immediately. I've asked numerous times without any success.>> >>> > Regards,>> >>> > JohnnyO>> >>> > -->> Lonnie Nunweiler>> Valemount Networks Corporation>> http://www.star-os.com/ -->> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/>-- >Lonnie Nunweiler>Valemount Networks Corporation>http://www.star-os.com/>-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe:>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/>
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Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006

[Ron Wallace]

Yeah, JohnnyO, watch your filthy f---ing talk.
-Original Message-From: Lonnie Nunweiler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2006 11:53 PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006If you object to spam as much as you say you do, then why on earth would you send that spam to a list?  Get a clue.  Also, watch your language.Lonnie
On 6/4/06, JohnnyO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Anyone Else receiving these from these pricks ?
 
JohnnyO
 
 

-Original Message-From: APGWireless Info [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:18 PMTo: 'Chris Russell'Cc: WISPA General ListSubject: RE: See what's new at DragonWave @ WCA 2006
Please do NOT spam me any further in the future - I'd like to be removed from any and ALL lists ya'll have harvested from the WISP online forum/lists immediately. I've asked numerous times without any success.
 
Regards,
 
JohnnyO

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Re: [WISPA] Double Ping Replies

[Jeromie Reeves]

Is this ip somehow setup as a network or broadcast IP? Ive seen that 
cause 2 ping replys


Jeromie

Scott Reed wrote:

I had a customer call to say there connection had not been working 
well today.  I started to see what is going on by ping the radio.  I 
get 2 replies for almost every ping.  Average was about 1 at 45ms and 
one at 56ms.  The times are longer than normal, but my question is, 
how do I get 2 reponses to a ping?  No duplicate addresses, I checked.
The other way I know there were 2 pings is one of the MTs that is 
between me and the customer showed 2 times the download as upload 
speed in torch, and I was the only one talking to that radio.

Suggestions on what I need to look for?

Scott Reed
Owner
NewWays
Wireless Networking
Network Design, Installation and Administration
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[WISPA] Justice Department Fails to Get Agreement on Data Retention

[Peter R.]

>Justice Department Fails to Get Agreement on Data Retention
>  A meeting at the U.S. Justice Department to discuss forcing
>Internet  providers to record Americans' online activities ended
>without reaching  an agreement, according to multiple participants. The
>meeting of about 15  industry representatives and 10 government
>officials followed an earlier  one, at which Attorney General Alberto
>Gonzales and FBI Director Robert  Mueller pressed Internet and
>telecommunications companies to store data  on their users for two years.
>  Read more: http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-6079585.html

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Re: [WISPA] Double Ping Replies

[Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181]

Are there any other customers on the second 
hop?
 
Does the same thing happen to them?
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Scott Reed 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 5:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Double Ping 
  Replies
  This is an 802.11b hop link. It goes 9.4 miles 
  from a DLB1300 AP with 120* 14dBi sector to a 24dBi Grid on an CM9 in a RB230. 
  From there it is 2.0 miles to the customer. The AP has a 90* 9dBi (I think) on 
  a CM9. Customer is a 15dBi grid to an SB Outdoor radio. Does the 9.4 
  mile link constitute a "long link?" It appears the double ping replies are 
  only if I ping from the first AP through the other to the client. Pinging from 
  the clients near AP doesn't get the double replies. RadioMobile plot 
  of link attached. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless 
  Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net 
  -- Original Message --- From: Jack 
  Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: WISPA General List 
   Sent: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:31:06 -0700 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Double Ping Replies > Scott, > 
  > Excessive pings is often a symptom of a poor wireless link. I would 
  > check to be sure that: > > a) The customer's antenna is 
  high enough to provide a good signal back > to the access point 
  > > b) The link is not overly long > > c) There is 
  no hardware problem in their antenna system or radio. > > jack 
  > > Scott Reed wrote: > > I had a customer call to say 
  there connection had not been working well > > today. I started to 
  see what is going on by ping the radio. I get 2 > > replies for 
  almost every ping. Average was about 1 at 45ms and one at > > 56ms. 
  The times are longer than normal, but my question is, how do I > > 
  get 2 reponses to a ping? No duplicate addresses, I checked. > > The 
  other way I know there were 2 pings is one of the MTs that is > > 
  between me and the customer showed 2 times the download as upload speed 
  > > in torch, and I was the only one talking to that radio. > 
  > Suggestions on what I need to look for? > > > > Scott 
  Reed > > Owner > > NewWays > > Wireless 
  Networking > > Network Design, Installation and Administration 
  > > www.nwwnet.net  > > > > 
  -- > Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. 
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Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?

[Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181]

Hiya Carl,
 
Most of the discussion here centers around US 
issues ONLY because there are more US isp's involved.  Maybe you Kanooks 
are even worse about joining organizations than us Yanks?  
hehehehe
 
We structured WISPA specifically so that it can 
grow anywhere in the world.  And we can use info learned in one country and 
put it (and people) together to help folks anywhere.
 
I know that there was a Canadian issue that you'd 
asked about once before.  I may be able to carve out a little bit more time 
to help you with that in the next week or so if you'd like to try again.  
Feel free to post your issues here, that's part of what we're here 
for.
 
Remember, this is your list too.  If you don't 
use it it won't help you.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Carl A Jeptha 
  
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 8:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent 
  about this?
  last time I thought Wispa was international and if it is not I 
  may as well cancel my membership.It does appear that USA Politics and 
  legislation has been on the forefront alot. Just asking??You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
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David Sovereen wrote: 
  I've only been on the list for about four weeks.  I learned about it at the
Mikrotik User Meeting in Dallas from a few of the other attendees.

Since I've been on, there hasn't been any discussion of what WISPA is doing
on the legislative front.  If all of the good stuff is hiding in the members
only area, and you don't tell people about the good stuff hiding in there on
your public web site, how are enticing people to join?  If you want people's
money, you need to market to them.

I finally made it through the USIIA Bulletin.  According to them, the data
retention bill isn't likely to be passed.  Quote, "The reality is that such
legislation would never pass the Congress, and that the DOJ will likely back
down from the issue in the face of public criticism and concerns."  If that
weren't the case, I'd probably get a USIIA Alert asking me to e-mail my
congresspeople.  I feel this type of information is valuable.

Dave

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- Original Message - 
From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?


  
You just need to pay attention here and on the private list.

It would be nice if someone had the time to work on the web site more.  So
that everyone would know what we're going right now!  But those of us
working are too busy doing and have no time for bragging about it.  grin

Watch and learn Dave.  One thing I'm very proud of is that WISPA has never
hid anything that it does.  We are the most open group I've ever been
around.

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- Original Message - 
From: "David Sovereen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?



  Where can I find out what WISPA's official positions are?  Where can I
  see
  

  the letters and actions WISPA has sent on behalf of its members?  The
  root
  

  of my questions is, "How do I know that the money I spend is making a
difference?"

I've joined organizations before.  I send them my check or give them a
credit card number and never hear from them again... until they want
  more
  

  money.  I don't support my local Chamber of Commerce for this exact
reason.
What does my local Chamber of Commerce do to deserve my money?  After a
year, I didn't know, so I cancelled my membership.

Dave

989-837-3790 x 151
989-837-3780 fax

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- Original Message - 
From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this?


  
I'm really at a bit of a loss as to how to deal with your question
David.
  

  
What's a trade association do for you?  (You being generic here)
The
  

  
idea that the question was asked ind

Re: [WISPA] Join WISPA?

[John Scrivner]

There is a Principle Member's list which is made up of WISP operators 
who have paid for Principle Membership. That list is [EMAIL PROTECTED] We 
only have a couple of Associate members so have not made up a list just 
for paid Associate members yet. We are considering other list resources 
for different membership types.

Scriv


Butch Evans wrote:


On Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

There is a members only list that is much more structured and isn't 
open to just anyone



Is that list open only to Principal members?  I am only an associate 
member.  Do I qualify for that list?  Inquiring minds...



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Re: [WISPA] Does anyone here import from Compex?

[Butch Evans]

On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

I would like to evaluate some of thier products - specifically, 
some of thier AP / client boards and thier mini-pci radios.


I've used their client devices in the past with good success.  Their 
broadband routers are decent, but not great.  Never used the 
mini-pci stuff (they didn't have these when I was using their 
stuff).



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[WISPA] Does anyone here import from Compex?

[Mark Koskenmaki]

I would like to evaluate some of thier products - specifically, some of
thier AP / client boards and thier mini-pci radios.

It's a bit of a pain to order a few samples of each of what I'm interested
in directly from them, though, they will sell them to me.

Anyone?


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