[WISPA] SR9 Cards

2006-07-14 Thread Blair Davis

Hi all.

I need to find 3 SR9 cards.  Anybody got a few to sell, or know any 
distributors who have them for sale?


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Re: [WISPA] Off Topic WTC & 911

2006-07-14 Thread Blair Davis




Nothing personal meant or intended.  I apologize for any insult you
perceived.

I am a member of several forums on current events and such.  I spend
way too much time debunking tin foil 9/11 stuff.  My work discussion
lists are a 'haven' from that stuff..

As to general list, yes it is, but it has always seemed to have a focus
on wireless and ISP matters I hope it doesn't degenerate in to
politics and such

Mac Dearman wrote:

  This is the "GENERAL" list! It's made for general matters as well as
wireless stuff :-)

Pay your dues and get on the real WISPA list :-) where the tin foil hat
stuff is not posted.


Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off Topic WTC & 911

I hate to ask, but can we keep the TIN FOIL HAT stuff off this list?

I'm here to talk about wireless and ISP matters

Mac Dearman wrote:

  
  
  I know this is completely off any topic on list, but I felt compelled to
share this link (streaming video) with the masses here. Forgive me if I am
too far out of line.
  If you think you knew what was going on during the WTC crisis and the
Pentagon - - you better take another look at this and rethink your position
on everything as you can see more of the facts with this documentary. Be
prepared to sit a while as its pretty long, but full of "common sense"
logic.

http://www.loosechange911.com/

Mac Dearman


 


  
  

  



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RE: [WISPA] Off Topic WTC & 911

2006-07-14 Thread Mac Dearman
This is the "GENERAL" list! It's made for general matters as well as
wireless stuff :-)

Pay your dues and get on the real WISPA list :-) where the tin foil hat
stuff is not posted.


Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:50 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Off Topic WTC & 911

I hate to ask, but can we keep the TIN FOIL HAT stuff off this list?

I'm here to talk about wireless and ISP matters

Mac Dearman wrote:

>   I know this is completely off any topic on list, but I felt compelled to
>share this link (streaming video) with the masses here. Forgive me if I am
>too far out of line.
>   If you think you knew what was going on during the WTC crisis and the
>Pentagon - - you better take another look at this and rethink your position
>on everything as you can see more of the facts with this documentary. Be
>prepared to sit a while as its pretty long, but full of "common sense"
>logic.
>
>http://www.loosechange911.com/
>
>Mac Dearman
>
>
>  
>


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Re: [WISPA] Off Topic WTC & 911

2006-07-14 Thread Blair Davis

I hate to ask, but can we keep the TIN FOIL HAT stuff off this list?

I'm here to talk about wireless and ISP matters

Mac Dearman wrote:


  I know this is completely off any topic on list, but I felt compelled to
share this link (streaming video) with the masses here. Forgive me if I am
too far out of line.
  If you think you knew what was going on during the WTC crisis and the
Pentagon - - you better take another look at this and rethink your position
on everything as you can see more of the facts with this documentary. Be
prepared to sit a while as its pretty long, but full of "common sense"
logic.

http://www.loosechange911.com/

Mac Dearman


 




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RE: [WISPA] Off Topic WTC & 911

2006-07-14 Thread Mac Dearman
   I know this is completely off any topic on list, but I felt compelled to
share this link (streaming video) with the masses here. Forgive me if I am
too far out of line.
   If you think you knew what was going on during the WTC crisis and the
Pentagon - - you better take another look at this and rethink your position
on everything as you can see more of the facts with this documentary. Be
prepared to sit a while as its pretty long, but full of "common sense"
logic.

http://www.loosechange911.com/

Mac Dearman


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Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?

2006-07-14 Thread Mike Brownson




We've got a few customers that are mainly fiber carriers and use
wireless to extend off that.  The fiber business is a whole differnet
animal.  It can be good, but requires that you really understand what
business you're getting into.  Especially if you are leasing capacity
to other carriers, the audit requirements can get fairly hefty.  Most
of the fiber folks I know of use the fiber as the primary backhaul for
their wireless system and for direct drops into the biggest customers. 
In one example a school disctict actaully paid for the installation of
the fiber to hit all their schools (over 100 miles) but the WISP still
owned it and was able to add additional strands for a little extra $. 
But the school ended picking up 90%+ of the total cost.  Now that makes
the ROI look much better.

Mike B

John J. Thomas wrote:

  Multi mode fiber can go 550 meters, single mode can go 70 kilometers or more between repeaters.

John


  
  
-Original Message-
From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:04 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?

Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet?  I thought you were 
restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a 
switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something?  
I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an 
affordable use of them.

   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:



  We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul.  I've not 
built my own fiber yet.  I'm sure the day is coming though.

I really screwed up a few years ago.  The town had the sidewalks all 
out down town.  I should have found the money and put some conduit in 
at that time.  I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of 
the down town businesses today!  sigh

Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?


  
  
I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement
their wireless operations.  We have a couple of leads we are looking at
making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities 
get
involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the 
venture.

On or off list replys welcome.

Thanks

Mike
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RE: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?

2006-07-14 Thread Patrick Leary
Graded index 850nm/1300nm multimode, at least back in 1990 or so when I was
a fiber tech, had basic specs that permitted 2km before repeating. I
installed many projects with those distances before repeating. Actual
equipment tolerances would have enabled the real distance to be much
further. And that was with LED-based equipment, not even LASER.

Patrick Leary
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c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:19 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?

I know distance isn't as much of an issue with fiber, but Marlon talked 
about ethernet *OR* fiber so I guess I was thinking ethernet over 
standard copper and was wondering if I was missing something 
simple/cheap to get/around over the 100m limit.

Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless

John J. Thomas wrote:

>Multi mode fiber can go 550 meters, single mode can go 70 kilometers or
more between repeaters.
>
>John
>
>
>  
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:04 AM
>>To: 'WISPA General List'
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
>>
>>Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet?  I thought you were 
>>restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a 
>>switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something?  
>>I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an 
>>affordable use of them.
>>
>>   Sam Tetherow
>>   Sandhills Wireless
>>
>>Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul.  I've not 
>>>built my own fiber yet.  I'm sure the day is coming though.
>>>
>>>I really screwed up a few years ago.  The town had the sidewalks all 
>>>out down town.  I should have found the money and put some conduit in 
>>>at that time.  I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of 
>>>the down town businesses today!  sigh
>>>
>>>Marlon
>>>(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
>>>(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
>>>42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
>>>64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
>>>www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>>>www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>- Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>>>Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM
>>>Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement
their wireless operations.  We have a couple of leads we are looking at
making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities 
get
involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the 
venture.

On or off list replys welcome.

Thanks

Mike
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?

2006-07-14 Thread Sam Tetherow
I know distance isn't as much of an issue with fiber, but Marlon talked 
about ethernet *OR* fiber so I guess I was thinking ethernet over 
standard copper and was wondering if I was missing something 
simple/cheap to get/around over the 100m limit.


   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

John J. Thomas wrote:


Multi mode fiber can go 550 meters, single mode can go 70 kilometers or more 
between repeaters.

John


 


-Original Message-
From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:04 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?

Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet?  I thought you were 
restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a 
switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something?  
I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an 
affordable use of them.


  Sam Tetherow
  Sandhills Wireless

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

   

We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul.  I've not 
built my own fiber yet.  I'm sure the day is coming though.


I really screwed up a few years ago.  The town had the sidewalks all 
out down town.  I should have found the money and put some conduit in 
at that time.  I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of 
the down town businesses today!  sigh


Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?


 


I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement
their wireless operations.  We have a couple of leads we are looking at
making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities 
get
involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the 
venture.


On or off list replys welcome.

Thanks

Mike
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RE: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member

2006-07-14 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message



maybe 
you're a customer and just don't know it 
 
-Charles
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  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Gino A. VillariniSent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:30 
  PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] New WISPA 
  Vendor Member
  
  2,500 radios in 
  Puerto Rico……..who’s that ?
   
  
  Gino A. 
  Villarini 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless 
  Broadband Corp. 
  tel  
  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145 
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John ScrivnerSent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:23 
  PMTo: wireless@wispa.org; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor 
  Member
   
  I would like to take this 
  opportunity to introduce a new WISPA Vendor Member to our organization. 
  Optivon  
  has paid their dues and has made it official. They want to work with all of 
  the WISP industry and help support our efforts through WISPA. I am sure I 
  speak for us all in welcoming them to WISPA. If you have a desire to offer 
  VOIP for your customers then consider giving Optivon a shot at your business. 
  After all, they are the first VOIP vendor to actually build their business 
  plan around working with WISPs like you and support our association. I will be 
  talking to them for my own network's VOIP needs. I hope you all do the same. 
  Here is some information about Optivon:
  Optivon is a facilities 
  based VoIP applications services provider located 
  in
  Tampa, FL and San Juan, Puerto Rico. We 
  provide hosted services to local exchange carriers, wireless Internet service 
  providers, and other carriers. 
   
  Our hosted services 
  include IP Centrex/Hosted PBX, Residential VoIP, IP Trunking and other 
  applications. Through various providers, we can offer a very large nationwide 
  local footprint of DID and toll free numbers with E911 service. If you prefer, 
  for increased margins, we can work with you in helping you operate your own 
  local PSTN connections. This is especially attractive for internationally 
  based carriers. We also offer you attractive domestic and international 
  termination rates. 
   
  Through our CLEC 
  subsidiary in Puerto 
  Rico, we can provide DID origination and 
  termination.   Our platform is based on a carrier class tandem 
  softswitch and a Tekelec 6000 (formerly Vocal Data) applications service 
  platform, which is located in a "bunker type" central office facility for 
  increased network reliability.
   
  We have a good 
  understanding of wireless data networks, having operated one. Among our 
  customers for hosted VoIP services are a WISP in Tampa that is expanding 
  into Atlanta 
  and South Florida, another in Connecticut, and one that has 2,500 radios 
  installed in Puerto 
  Rico.  We provide service to the largest 
  telephone operating company in the World and to small WISP 
  operators.   
   
  Different than other 
  providers, Optivon is prepared to work with you providing not only the VoIP 
  services, but also sales and engineering support to help you 
  succeed.
   
  Also, we will not 
  compete against you.  We only sell our services in the 
  USA 
  through carriers.  
   
  Please visit our web 
  site at www.optivon.com/us to learn 
  more about our services or contact Rafael Morales at the following 
  address:
   
  Optivon 
  Inc.
  Rafael 
  Morales
  VP 
  Operations
  6304 Benjamin Rd. Suite 
  514
  Tampa, FL  
  33634
   
  Tel:  
  813-600-6090
  Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
   
   
   
   
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