RE: [WISPA] OT: Small office VoIP phone systems
www.fonality.com .. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Will Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 12:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Small office VoIP phone systems Allworx 6x can do that. You will need to get the software upgrade for sip gateway for the off site phones. This is a full featured PBX for a decent price. I believe it can handle 6 FXO's and has two FXS ports for fax and such. Anthony Will Broadband Corp. Ryan Spott wrote: Sorry to be off topic here folks, but I trust all but one of you. :) I am looking for a small office VoIP phone system. It needs to support at least 4 Analog (outside) phone lines and at least 16 or so SIP based phones. Most of the Phones will be on a LAN in the building with about 4 phones off-site. I was looking at the LInksys SPA9000 coupled with the SPA400 to do this but I am always leery of Linksys stuff. Can any of you lead me in the right direction? Off list is fine and I can put together some synopsis when I get everyones info. thanks! ryan -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Typical OFDM CPE antennas
I wanted to get some feedback from the List. Typically, what Dbi gain antennas are you desiring for OFDM short Near-LOS or Mid-range CPE links? Is 18 dbi enough? I'm well aware that 18dbi will not be good for many applications (long range or noisy), but what percentage of CPE installtions would it be good for? Could 75% of the CPE installs be acheived with 18dbi? I personally, would pick a 21-23db antenna as a preferred choice, but PacWireless Rootennas are 19dbi, and often used with 13-15 dbm CM9 cards. The beamwidth of 18dbi ( 20-30 degrees) is pretty good for interference resilience and OFDM maximized, and if more gain was needed it could be accommodated with higher power radios such Teletronic's 18dbm Atheros cards or Ubiquiti's SR5 18-26db cards. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Using Nagios? New tool that is pretty cool
Firefox has an add-on that will allow you to use Nagios in the toolbar and has a notifier if anything goes down. For anyone who wants it, here it is HYPERLINK https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3607/https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox /3607/ Mike -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.22/666 - Release Date: 2/3/2007 3:31 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Using Nagios? New tool that is pretty cool
Very nice find Mike! This surely will come in handy. George Mike Delp wrote: Firefox has an add-on that will allow you to use Nagios in the toolbar and has a notifier if anything goes down. For anyone who wants it, here it is HYPERLINK https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3607/https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox /3607/ Mike -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Typical OFDM CPE antennas
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 15:38:04 -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote I wanted to get some feedback from the List. Typically, what Dbi gain antennas are you desiring for OFDM short Near-LOS or Mid-range CPE links? Is 18 dbi enough? I'm well aware that 18dbi will not be good for many applications (long range or noisy), but what percentage of CPE installtions would it be good for? Could 75% of the CPE installs be acheived with 18dbi? I personally, would pick a 21-23db antenna as a preferred choice, but PacWireless Rootennas are 19dbi, and often used with 13-15 dbm CM9 cards. The beamwidth of 18dbi ( 20-30 degrees) is pretty good for interference resilience and OFDM maximized, and if more gain was needed it could be accommodated with higher power radios such Teletronic's 18dbm Atheros cards or Ubiquiti's SR5 18-26db cards. Ok, where do I start... I can't tell that antenna design matters a bit whether you're using OFDM or QAM or... ??? Seems the radio waves propagate the same. I'm using 18 db grids out to well past 20 miles, with no amps and no high powered radios (using CM-9's). I have ONE client with a 24 db grid at 17 miles or so, and he's got like a -60's RSSI. Doesn't even need it, but it was mounted to his house when I hooked him up. So I saved myself 40 bucks and used his. I have one client btween 29 and 30 miles using a 16 db Vagi, from Pacwireless. Again, no high powered cards, and he's got around 12 to 15 db SNR ( -80 to -83). I was going to use a 19 db grid, but my antenna was defective, and that was the only other thing in the van. Star-OS access point, Compex WP54AG client board, running Ikarus. I think our maximum throughput in 11b mode (won't work in G, sorry) was 350KB or so. The customer is a 2M client, and we can get 2M in a speed test any hour of the day or night. My expeirience with G mode (not ofdm specifically) is that much higher RSSI is required to work at all. I've seen OFDM clients work fine for 900 mhz at -85, so long as you weren't hoping to get past 1M throughput in a 5mhz wide channel. My first 40 clients were ALL 18 db grids, be they 1 mile or 23 miles. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Mark Koskenmaki Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings - Competing
I am going to be specific here What mechanism do you have in place to 'protect' your network from the person that downloads 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. If you sold me a connection that was 256k for $39.99 I would feel that I have a right to use it as much as I want. I am not saying bit cap, I am saying tiered pricing. I am sure that most here can break their clients into 3 groups; 1. the people that rarely use their Internet, possibly 300-500 megabytes per month. 2. The average user that probably uses 2-5 Gigabytes per month. 3. The bandwidth hog that is using 20 Gigs plus per month and complains when their speed teest falls for 5 k bits per second. My argument is that ISPs need to have a mechanism to make the people in the last group either pay their fair share, or go somewhere else. John -Original Message- From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:46 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Service Offerings - Competing I'm sure much of this will already have been covered (been out for a couple of days). But since it was addressed to me Don't know the details of the truck driver story, but if it wasn't his responsibility all he needs to do is leave the truck blocking the loading dock and walk into the store and ask the manager to call his boss and they can get it sorted from there. As for the pickles, if Walmart decides all they want to pay for a gallon of pickles is 3.97 that is their right. No one is forcing anyone to sell at 3.97. The legislature of CA is costing CA millions of dollars each year, not Walmart. If the legislature wants to pick up the tab for workers who aren't insured by their employer that is their own fault. Are you going to complain about every other business in CA that doesn't insure their employees? A little bit of research on the internet will also fill me in about black helicopters and tinfoil hats... The trick is conveying to your customer what your plan is in terms that they understand. I'm in a primarily residential market and compete with DSL. The selling point of my service, is just that service. I still have to compete with Qwest pricing but I only have to be close on cost to speed and sell them on the service. It isn't that hard to sell service vs the phone company. But I have to disagree with everyone that is on the bitcap bandwagon. I understand fully the issues that come with p2p and streaming video but that is what is driving the internet today. I take pride in providing the internet to my customers and I want to provide the type of internet service I would expect from my connection. The internet is no longer about web pages and email it is about podcasts, video streams and downloaded movies and if we aren't ready to provide that type of service they we are just relagating ourselves to being the new dialup with 128K plans and draconian bandwidth policies. I don't see bit metering (paying by the bit not on a transfer rate) as being a billing model for the future because every other communication model is trending away from it and I doubt the customer will put up with it given a choice. Phone service is abandoning the per minute pricing for pricing plans which are tending toward unlimited minutes (mobile to mobile, home network, after hours). Also as more and more services migrate to the internet people are not going to want to worry about their bit caps. The idea of having to look at the file size of a netflix movie download and they try to figure out how much it is going to cost me to download (above the netflix cost) reminds me all to much of the old dailup days when we were paying by the minute. As a businessman you should be trying to squeeze every last dime out of your customers. The trick is to provide the service that will make them want to pay every last dime of it. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless John J. Thomas wrote: Sam, Walmart has made most of its money by screwing others. Truck driver makes delivery to Walmart ad unload pallets. Goes to have receiving sign for them. Receiving refuses to sign, and says that *after* the truck driver *unloads* the items off the pallets, then he will sign. This is NOT the truck drivers responsibility. Walmart decides that a Gallon jar of pickles shoud cost $3.97-*regardless* of whether the company can make 10 cents on that. Company sells $3.97 jar of pickles and goes bankrupt after that. Walmart is costing the State of California Millions of dollars each year just by telling its employees we won't give you that benefit, but if you go apply for State assistance, they will. A little bit of research on the Internet will show you to what degree they have gone to to screw others. If that is the way you want to do business, then so be it. Me, my family and anyone else I have influence over won't do business with you-period. You have to structure your pricing in a way that you can
RE: [WISPA] WISPA Trade Shows...
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Jeff Broadwick wrote: We do a lot of shows. For this industry, we've found ISPCON and WISPCON to be of the most value. WiNOG was headed that way, but it is now dormant. Last I heard, WISPCon was kinda running out of fuel, too. Is it on it's way back from the dead? I, for one, enjoyed that first couple of shows I attended, but the last couple were really disorganized. You going to be in New Orleans? -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
