Re: [WISPA] Re:Keynote
I thought it was excellent. He's a very interesting speaker and I thoroughly enjoy what he has to say, as he has a very comprehensive and cohesive view of the market that provokes a lot of thought. Memorable insights: 1. There are too many backbone providers out there. Back in the day, there were over 100. Today, there are maybe 12 or so nationally that are still significant. He thinks that number needs to come down to 4 in order for all of them to be viable. 2. Interesting thoughts on telecome deregulation. Said the cable and phone companies are still monopolies and are the cause of limited bandwidth. They have a vested interest in keeping bandwidth scarce and expensive as voice and video are simply applications that run over IP. Since voice and video are the breadwinners for telephone and cable companies, they want to limit broadband speeds and availability as much as possible so they can continue to make their better margin revenues on those services. If bandwidth were super accessible and super affordable, voice and video would just be an application on the net and those revenues would disappear. In his pie-in-the-sky ideal world, cable and telephone companies would be reduced to being nothing more than wholesale transport companies, would be forced to open those networks to independent, retail operators, and should be assured a reasonable return on investment and operations... say 12%, for shareholders. Of course, this will never happen. He gave examples of where this type of structure has been implemented in other areas of the world and has worked. 3. Talked about why Cogent does Ethernet. How there are nearly 2 billion (??) ethernet ports on the planet, more than anything else, they are low cost, and that makes sense for getting bandwidth to the masses. GigE ports are available at BestBuy for under $100. OC-3/12/48 ports are available only in limited form at very expensive prices. So Ethernet makes sense for economic distribution of bandwidth. 4. Wireless is bandwidth-limited. Only so much spectrum. As a result, will never be able to compete with line-based technologies, where terahertz of bandwidth are available over fiber optics. 5. Talked about universal service and universal availability. Subsidies need to go. Let the market pay to deliver service based on real costs. In his view of the country, probably 99% of the population can be covered with market-priced services, and the remaining 1% of people who live on mountain-tops, deserts, and jungles where it doesn't make economic sense to deliver service should simply not be served. Let them move. There was a lot more. He packed a lot of thought into a short period of time. His keynote was the most interesting and enjoyed I've heard at an ISPCON in a very long time, maybe ever. Dave - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: [WISPA] Re:Keynote How was the Cogent (Dave Shaefer) Keynote? Any new insight? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes Patrick, Thanks for clarifying the true value of the generous donation that Alvarion made. I did have that on the list below. If I misstated it, I apologize. It was great to see you to, I'm only sorry I didn't have more time to talk to you. You looked like you were feeling much better than last year. Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes Rick, Don't forget the late entry of a full BreezeNET B100 link that went to WISPER Wireless Internet in Belleville, IL by the draw of Mike Delp's card. That thing lists for $7,990. Thanks for allowing Alvarion to donate the link to the raffle at the last minute. Mike, if I see it on eBay I'll break your legs! :) Matt Larson has one up now and he told me last night the link is over 30 miles and it is pulling over 20 mbps without blinking and that it has been true set-and-forget. Rudy, Jeff, George, Mac, J.C., Matt, Jack, Rick, Dave, et all...it was great to see you last night. The reception was absolutely packed. Nice job and thanks to Powercode and ImageStream for stepping up to sponsor it. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes WISPA held its biannual reception at ISPCON last night. Attendance was fabulous with a crowd that reach
[WISPA] Re:Keynote
How was the Cogent (Dave Shaefer) Keynote? Any new insight? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes Patrick, Thanks for clarifying the true value of the generous donation that Alvarion made. I did have that on the list below. If I misstated it, I apologize. It was great to see you to, I'm only sorry I didn't have more time to talk to you. You looked like you were feeling much better than last year. Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes Rick, Don't forget the late entry of a full BreezeNET B100 link that went to WISPER Wireless Internet in Belleville, IL by the draw of Mike Delp's card. That thing lists for $7,990. Thanks for allowing Alvarion to donate the link to the raffle at the last minute. Mike, if I see it on eBay I'll break your legs! :) Matt Larson has one up now and he told me last night the link is over 30 miles and it is pulling over 20 mbps without blinking and that it has been true set-and-forget. Rudy, Jeff, George, Mac, J.C., Matt, Jack, Rick, Dave, et all...it was great to see you last night. The reception was absolutely packed. Nice job and thanks to Powercode and ImageStream for stepping up to sponsor it. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes WISPA held its biannual reception at ISPCON last night. Attendance was fabulous with a crowd that reached overcapacity for the room we had reserved. We want to thank all members, potential members and vendors who came to the reception and shared this time with us. The highlight of the evening was the announcement of the WISPA Outstanding WISP Operator of the Year Award. President Matt Larsen made this presentation following an outstanding speech about WISPA, our accomplishments and our goals for the future. This year's winner was Travis Johnson of IDA.Net. Travis received a very nice plaque for his accomplishments of serving around 4000 clients in the rough terrain of Idaho. Our sincere congratulations go out to Travis, his staff and his family. Great Job! We also want to thank Imagestream and Powercode for sponsoring the reception. Without vendor support, many events such as this would not be possible. Special thanks to JC Utter and John Wright for stepping up to the plate this year. We also held a raffle at the end of the reception. Doorprizes were donated by many vendors and the winners are listed below. Thanks to all the vendors who supported this raffle. CTI & NetSapiens (5) $500 discount on a NetSapiens Starter Pack Donny Smith - Jaguar Communications Nathan Stooke - Wisper ISP Mark Lemmo - I Node Infotech Marcus Mamolen - Giglinx Patrick Nix - Computer Network Solutions CTI (5) Free RB/153 with indoor cases with your next purchase from CTI James McDonald - Homeland Internet Walter Mendizabal - Metrocom Mark Perrone - W-PNP Dave Giles - Invisimax Robert Gruhn - High Density Network Butch Evans Consulting Free Hour of Consulting for Imagestream, Mikrotik or StarOS Dan Lubar - Relay Services Alvarion (1) Free BH100 Backhaul Mike Delp - Wisper ISP Jack Unger - (1) Autographed Copy of Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Scott Cress - Hughes Ascendance - GWP116VE Access Point Client Bridge FCC Certified Jeff Crews - Eastern Oregon Net Wisp-Router (1) 10% Discount on next purchase up to $200 Ben Hulet - MotherLode Internet JeffCo Soho (1) Mikrotik 532Ar5 L4 in NEMA4 enclosure Bill Hagestand - VISI Trango Broadband (1) $100 Amex Gift Card Tom Laydon - X1 Communications WISPA Shirts (3) Perry Roach - Netsweeper Stephen Coran - Rini Coran, PC Suzanne Peters - WeRoam Wireless Mapping (1) Free Coverage Map and Google Earth File for up to 6 tower sites Adam Kennedy - Cyberlink We also are sporting a new booth this year thanks to the efforts of the promotions committee. The graphics look very professional and we received many compliments. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1075 - Release Date: 10/17/2007 9:38 AM --
RE: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes
Oh sorry, I did not see it when I glanced through it. You guys need a bigger room next time! Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:23 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes Patrick, Thanks for clarifying the true value of the generous donation that Alvarion made. I did have that on the list below. If I misstated it, I apologize. It was great to see you to, I'm only sorry I didn't have more time to talk to you. You looked like you were feeling much better than last year. Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes Rick, Don't forget the late entry of a full BreezeNET B100 link that went to WISPER Wireless Internet in Belleville, IL by the draw of Mike Delp's card. That thing lists for $7,990. Thanks for allowing Alvarion to donate the link to the raffle at the last minute. Mike, if I see it on eBay I'll break your legs! :) Matt Larson has one up now and he told me last night the link is over 30 miles and it is pulling over 20 mbps without blinking and that it has been true set-and-forget. Rudy, Jeff, George, Mac, J.C., Matt, Jack, Rick, Dave, et all...it was great to see you last night. The reception was absolutely packed. Nice job and thanks to Powercode and ImageStream for stepping up to sponsor it. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes WISPA held its biannual reception at ISPCON last night. Attendance was fabulous with a crowd that reached overcapacity for the room we had reserved. We want to thank all members, potential members and vendors who came to the reception and shared this time with us. The highlight of the evening was the announcement of the WISPA Outstanding WISP Operator of the Year Award. President Matt Larsen made this presentation following an outstanding speech about WISPA, our accomplishments and our goals for the future. This year's winner was Travis Johnson of IDA.Net. Travis received a very nice plaque for his accomplishments of serving around 4000 clients in the rough terrain of Idaho. Our sincere congratulations go out to Travis, his staff and his family. Great Job! We also want to thank Imagestream and Powercode for sponsoring the reception. Without vendor support, many events such as this would not be possible. Special thanks to JC Utter and John Wright for stepping up to the plate this year. We also held a raffle at the end of the reception. Doorprizes were donated by many vendors and the winners are listed below. Thanks to all the vendors who supported this raffle. CTI & NetSapiens (5) $500 discount on a NetSapiens Starter Pack Donny Smith - Jaguar Communications Nathan Stooke - Wisper ISP Mark Lemmo - I Node Infotech Marcus Mamolen - Giglinx Patrick Nix - Computer Network Solutions CTI (5) Free RB/153 with indoor cases with your next purchase from CTI James McDonald - Homeland Internet Walter Mendizabal - Metrocom Mark Perrone - W-PNP Dave Giles - Invisimax Robert Gruhn - High Density Network Butch Evans Consulting Free Hour of Consulting for Imagestream, Mikrotik or StarOS Dan Lubar - Relay Services Alvarion (1) Free BH100 Backhaul Mike Delp - Wisper ISP Jack Unger - (1) Autographed Copy of Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Scott Cress - Hughes Ascendance - GWP116VE Access Point Client Bridge FCC Certified Jeff Crews - Eastern Oregon Net Wisp-Router (1) 10% Discount on next purchase up to $200 Ben Hulet - MotherLode Internet JeffCo Soho (1) Mikrotik 532Ar5 L4 in NEMA4 enclosure Bill Hagestand - VISI Trango Broadband (1) $100 Amex Gift Card Tom Laydon - X1 Communications WISPA Shirts (3) Perry Roach - Netsweeper Stephen Coran - Rini Coran, PC Suzanne Peters - WeRoam Wireless Mapping (1) Free Coverage Map and Google Earth File for up to 6 tower sites Adam Kennedy - Cyberlink We also are sporting a new booth this year thanks to the efforts of the promotions committee. The graphics look very professional and we received many compliments. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.48
RE: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes
Patrick, Thanks for clarifying the true value of the generous donation that Alvarion made. I did have that on the list below. If I misstated it, I apologize. It was great to see you to, I'm only sorry I didn't have more time to talk to you. You looked like you were feeling much better than last year. Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes Rick, Don't forget the late entry of a full BreezeNET B100 link that went to WISPER Wireless Internet in Belleville, IL by the draw of Mike Delp's card. That thing lists for $7,990. Thanks for allowing Alvarion to donate the link to the raffle at the last minute. Mike, if I see it on eBay I'll break your legs! :) Matt Larson has one up now and he told me last night the link is over 30 miles and it is pulling over 20 mbps without blinking and that it has been true set-and-forget. Rudy, Jeff, George, Mac, J.C., Matt, Jack, Rick, Dave, et all...it was great to see you last night. The reception was absolutely packed. Nice job and thanks to Powercode and ImageStream for stepping up to sponsor it. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes WISPA held its biannual reception at ISPCON last night. Attendance was fabulous with a crowd that reached overcapacity for the room we had reserved. We want to thank all members, potential members and vendors who came to the reception and shared this time with us. The highlight of the evening was the announcement of the WISPA Outstanding WISP Operator of the Year Award. President Matt Larsen made this presentation following an outstanding speech about WISPA, our accomplishments and our goals for the future. This year's winner was Travis Johnson of IDA.Net. Travis received a very nice plaque for his accomplishments of serving around 4000 clients in the rough terrain of Idaho. Our sincere congratulations go out to Travis, his staff and his family. Great Job! We also want to thank Imagestream and Powercode for sponsoring the reception. Without vendor support, many events such as this would not be possible. Special thanks to JC Utter and John Wright for stepping up to the plate this year. We also held a raffle at the end of the reception. Doorprizes were donated by many vendors and the winners are listed below. Thanks to all the vendors who supported this raffle. CTI & NetSapiens (5) $500 discount on a NetSapiens Starter Pack Donny Smith - Jaguar Communications Nathan Stooke - Wisper ISP Mark Lemmo - I Node Infotech Marcus Mamolen - Giglinx Patrick Nix - Computer Network Solutions CTI (5) Free RB/153 with indoor cases with your next purchase from CTI James McDonald - Homeland Internet Walter Mendizabal - Metrocom Mark Perrone - W-PNP Dave Giles - Invisimax Robert Gruhn - High Density Network Butch Evans Consulting Free Hour of Consulting for Imagestream, Mikrotik or StarOS Dan Lubar - Relay Services Alvarion (1) Free BH100 Backhaul Mike Delp - Wisper ISP Jack Unger - (1) Autographed Copy of Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Scott Cress - Hughes Ascendance - GWP116VE Access Point Client Bridge FCC Certified Jeff Crews - Eastern Oregon Net Wisp-Router (1) 10% Discount on next purchase up to $200 Ben Hulet - MotherLode Internet JeffCo Soho (1) Mikrotik 532Ar5 L4 in NEMA4 enclosure Bill Hagestand - VISI Trango Broadband (1) $100 Amex Gift Card Tom Laydon - X1 Communications WISPA Shirts (3) Perry Roach - Netsweeper Stephen Coran - Rini Coran, PC Suzanne Peters - WeRoam Wireless Mapping (1) Free Coverage Map and Google Earth File for up to 6 tower sites Adam Kennedy - Cyberlink We also are sporting a new booth this year thanks to the efforts of the promotions committee. The graphics look very professional and we received many compliments. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1075 - Release Date: 10/17/2007 9:38 AM ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 **
Re: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes
Stating that the crowd was overcapacity is an understatement. There was standing room only both in the room and outside in the hallway. Further, many people didn't stay because there was no room. Additionally, the folks who put together the booth and arranged for WISP Member ribbons on our badges did an awesome job. The booth made it clear what WISP was about and the benefits of joining. The messaging was right on and I think the public perception generated by this event is going to be tremendous. -Matt > WISPA held its biannual reception at ISPCON last night. Attendance was > fabulous with a crowd that reached overcapacity for the room we had > reserved. We want to thank all members, potential members and vendors who > came to the reception and shared this time with us. The highlight of the > evening was the announcement of the WISPA Outstanding WISP Operator of the > Year Award. President Matt Larsen made this presentation following an > outstanding speech about WISPA, our accomplishments and our goals for the > future. This years winner was Travis Johnson of IDA.Net. Travis > received > a very nice plaque for his accomplishments of serving around 4000 clients > in > the rough terrain of Idaho. Our sincere congratulations go out to Travis, > his staff and his family. Great Job! > > > > We also want to thank Imagestream and Powercode for sponsoring the > reception. Without vendor support, many events such as this would not be > possible. Special thanks to JC Utter and John Wright for stepping up to > the > plate this year. > > > > We also held a raffle at the end of the reception. Doorprizes were > donated > by many vendors and the winners are listed below. Thanks to all the > vendors > who supported this raffle. > > > > CTI & NetSapiens (5) $500 discount on a NetSapiens Starter Pack > > Donny Smith Jaguar Communications > > Nathan Stooke Wisper ISP > > Mark Lemmo I Node Infotech > > Marcus Mamolen Giglinx > > Patrick Nix Computer Network Solutions > > CTI (5) Free RB/153 with indoor cases with your next purchase from CTI > > James McDonald Homeland Internet > > Walter Mendizabal Metrocom > > Mark Perrone W-PNP > > Dave Giles Invisimax > > Robert Gruhn High Density Network > > Butch Evans Consulting Free Hour of Consulting for Imagestream, Mikrotik > or > StarOS > > Dan Lubar Relay Services > > Alvarion (1) Free BH100 Backhaul > > Mike Delp Wisper ISP > > Jack Unger (1) Autographed Copy of Deploying License-Free Wireless > Wide-Area Networks > > Scott Cress Hughes > > Ascendance - GWP116VE Access Point Client Bridge FCC Certified > > Jeff Crews Eastern Oregon Net > > Wisp-Router (1) 10% Discount on next purchase up to $200 > > Ben Hulet MotherLode Internet > > JeffCo Soho (1) Mikrotik 532Ar5 L4 in NEMA4 enclosure > > Bill Hagestand VISI > > Trango Broadband (1) $100 Amex Gift Card > > Tom Laydon X1 Communications > > WISPA Shirts (3) > > Perry Roach Netsweeper > > Stephen Coran Rini Coran, PC > > Suzanne Peters WeRoam > > Wireless Mapping (1) Free Coverage Map and Google Earth File for up to 6 > tower sites > > Adam Kennedy Cyberlink > > > > We also are sporting a new booth this year thanks to the efforts of the > promotions committee. The graphics look very professional and we received > many compliments. > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1075 - Release Date: > 10/17/2007 > 9:38 AM > > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at > ISPCON ** > ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** > ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** > ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at > http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August
RE: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes
Rick, Don't forget the late entry of a full BreezeNET B100 link that went to WISPER Wireless Internet in Belleville, IL by the draw of Mike Delp's card. That thing lists for $7,990. Thanks for allowing Alvarion to donate the link to the raffle at the last minute. Mike, if I see it on eBay I'll break your legs! :) Matt Larson has one up now and he told me last night the link is over 30 miles and it is pulling over 20 mbps without blinking and that it has been true set-and-forget. Rudy, Jeff, George, Mac, J.C., Matt, Jack, Rick, Dave, et all...it was great to see you last night. The reception was absolutely packed. Nice job and thanks to Powercode and ImageStream for stepping up to sponsor it. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Notes WISPA held its biannual reception at ISPCON last night. Attendance was fabulous with a crowd that reached overcapacity for the room we had reserved. We want to thank all members, potential members and vendors who came to the reception and shared this time with us. The highlight of the evening was the announcement of the WISPA Outstanding WISP Operator of the Year Award. President Matt Larsen made this presentation following an outstanding speech about WISPA, our accomplishments and our goals for the future. This year's winner was Travis Johnson of IDA.Net. Travis received a very nice plaque for his accomplishments of serving around 4000 clients in the rough terrain of Idaho. Our sincere congratulations go out to Travis, his staff and his family. Great Job! We also want to thank Imagestream and Powercode for sponsoring the reception. Without vendor support, many events such as this would not be possible. Special thanks to JC Utter and John Wright for stepping up to the plate this year. We also held a raffle at the end of the reception. Doorprizes were donated by many vendors and the winners are listed below. Thanks to all the vendors who supported this raffle. CTI & NetSapiens (5) $500 discount on a NetSapiens Starter Pack Donny Smith - Jaguar Communications Nathan Stooke - Wisper ISP Mark Lemmo - I Node Infotech Marcus Mamolen - Giglinx Patrick Nix - Computer Network Solutions CTI (5) Free RB/153 with indoor cases with your next purchase from CTI James McDonald - Homeland Internet Walter Mendizabal - Metrocom Mark Perrone - W-PNP Dave Giles - Invisimax Robert Gruhn - High Density Network Butch Evans Consulting Free Hour of Consulting for Imagestream, Mikrotik or StarOS Dan Lubar - Relay Services Alvarion (1) Free BH100 Backhaul Mike Delp - Wisper ISP Jack Unger - (1) Autographed Copy of Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Scott Cress - Hughes Ascendance - GWP116VE Access Point Client Bridge FCC Certified Jeff Crews - Eastern Oregon Net Wisp-Router (1) 10% Discount on next purchase up to $200 Ben Hulet - MotherLode Internet JeffCo Soho (1) Mikrotik 532Ar5 L4 in NEMA4 enclosure Bill Hagestand - VISI Trango Broadband (1) $100 Amex Gift Card Tom Laydon - X1 Communications WISPA Shirts (3) Perry Roach - Netsweeper Stephen Coran - Rini Coran, PC Suzanne Peters - WeRoam Wireless Mapping (1) Free Coverage Map and Google Earth File for up to 6 tower sites Adam Kennedy - Cyberlink We also are sporting a new booth this year thanks to the efforts of the promotions committee. The graphics look very professional and we received many compliments. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1075 - Release Date: 10/17/2007 9:38 AM ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 20ft mast mount
I found a ChannelMaster dealer a couple of hours away. I buy 10 at a time and go pick them up. Skywalker is the distributor. Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20ft mast mount I used to get these at Lowes, but Lowes discontinued them. Where do you get them? Mark McElvy wrote: > I use channelmaster 30ft telescopic masts (actually about 27') I use a > foot that bolts to the roof and have a socket for the bottom of the pole > and swivels to allow you stand the mast up. I then guy it to 4" eyebolts > screwed into roof rafters and sealed well with silicone or roof tar. > Works great. > > Mark McElvy > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:09 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] 20ft mast mount > > What is the best prduct/method for this isntallation? > > 1.Must have a Mast that extends 20ft-25ft beyind the peak of the roof. > 2. The roof is a Metal pitched roof. Every 18" there is a lip where the > > metal sheets overlap, creating a channel vertically for rain to slide > down. > The pitch is minimal, almost flat, about 5ft rise from edge to center > peak, > which is about 75ft wide. > 3. The backwall to the ground pavement (2 stories) is also a metal, > which > has mountable space up top, but loading shop door underneith along the > first > story of wall. > 4. Will be mounting a 12" or smaller panel antenna, fed with Coax. > > My thought is I'd either use some sort of Tri-pod mount, and fasten > straight > down onto the roof Peak, about 5-10ft from the back edge. Then use 3 Guy > > wires spread equally around all sides, such as fasten to peak, and two > to > the roof's edges. > Alternatively, I could use M-Mounts to the wall, with up to 10feet of > cantelever leverage below peak, but then I would not be able to put guy > wires equally on three sides. (As there would be nothing to tie to on > the > side over the edge of wall. (Nothing can extend to the ground because of > Car > Traffic entering into the shop from the back. > > So what is the best way to mount? > > Is there a Tri-pod peak mount designed for 20-25ft and guy wires? Is > there a > support rod option that can get rid of the need to have Guy wires > equally on > all side, if used wall M mounts? > > Is this just a combination of the standard Rohn Telescoping Mast with a > standard Rohn Tri-pod? Any Best practices for securing Tri-pod down > onto > Metal Roof? > > If any vendors have a solution for this, please hit me offlist, for > immediate purchase. > > PS. in the past, for this type install, I'd mount too wall, extend the > pole > down to the ground, with concrete at the base, but not an option for > this > job, to go to ground level. > > Thanks. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:20 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Emergency request for a RB532 > > > >> Try counter to counter directly at the airline. They call it >> > goldstreak > >> here. It's not too expensive here ($50) and they will take it from >> > counter > >> to counter at another airport that has a similar service and a direct >> flight. They probably have something similar down there that you can >> > use. > >> Just takes the time of the flight plus a few hours. I know Alaska >> > Airlines > >> has it but others probably do also. >> >> >> D. Ryan Spott wrote: >> >>> Yeah I did know that. >>> >>> I did some quick pricing and the cost was more than the 532! >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> ryan -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: wireless@wispa.org >>> Sent: 10/15/07 9:38 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Emergency request for a RB532 >>> >>> You do know that most airlines and the UPS/Fedex/DHL companies offer >>> > a > >>> same day service? Not cheap but probably less than a 10+ hour drive >>> > and > >>> its expenses. >>> >>> Walter >>> >>> >>> >>> ** See what's new at >>> http://www.aol.com >>> >>> > > > >>> ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 >>> > at > >>> ISPCON ** >>> ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com >>> > ** > >>> ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** >>> ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** >>> ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at >>> http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** >>> >>> >>> >
Re: [WISPA] 20ft mast mount
i have heard radio shack carries them. Brian Scott Reed wrote: I used to get these at Lowes, but Lowes discontinued them. Where do you get them? Mark McElvy wrote: I use channelmaster 30ft telescopic masts (actually about 27') I use a foot that bolts to the roof and have a socket for the bottom of the pole and swivels to allow you stand the mast up. I then guy it to 4" eyebolts screwed into roof rafters and sealed well with silicone or roof tar. Works great. Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 20ft mast mount What is the best prduct/method for this isntallation? 1.Must have a Mast that extends 20ft-25ft beyind the peak of the roof. 2. The roof is a Metal pitched roof. Every 18" there is a lip where the metal sheets overlap, creating a channel vertically for rain to slide down. The pitch is minimal, almost flat, about 5ft rise from edge to center peak, which is about 75ft wide. 3. The backwall to the ground pavement (2 stories) is also a metal, which has mountable space up top, but loading shop door underneith along the first story of wall. 4. Will be mounting a 12" or smaller panel antenna, fed with Coax. My thought is I'd either use some sort of Tri-pod mount, and fasten straight down onto the roof Peak, about 5-10ft from the back edge. Then use 3 Guy wires spread equally around all sides, such as fasten to peak, and two to the roof's edges. Alternatively, I could use M-Mounts to the wall, with up to 10feet of cantelever leverage below peak, but then I would not be able to put guy wires equally on three sides. (As there would be nothing to tie to on the side over the edge of wall. (Nothing can extend to the ground because of Car Traffic entering into the shop from the back. So what is the best way to mount? Is there a Tri-pod peak mount designed for 20-25ft and guy wires? Is there a support rod option that can get rid of the need to have Guy wires equally on all side, if used wall M mounts? Is this just a combination of the standard Rohn Telescoping Mast with a standard Rohn Tri-pod? Any Best practices for securing Tri-pod down onto Metal Roof? If any vendors have a solution for this, please hit me offlist, for immediate purchase. PS. in the past, for this type install, I'd mount too wall, extend the pole down to the ground, with concrete at the base, but not an option for this job, to go to ground level. Thanks. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Dan Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Emergency request for a RB532 Try counter to counter directly at the airline. They call it goldstreak here. It's not too expensive here ($50) and they will take it from counter to counter at another airport that has a similar service and a direct flight. They probably have something similar down there that you can use. Just takes the time of the flight plus a few hours. I know Alaska Airlines has it but others probably do also. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Yeah I did know that. I did some quick pricing and the cost was more than the 532! Thanks! ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: 10/15/07 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Emergency request for a RB532 You do know that most airlines and the UPS/Fedex/DHL companies offer a same day service? Not cheap but probably less than a 10+ hour drive and its expenses. Walter ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits a
Re: [WISPA] 20ft mast mount
I used to get these at Lowes, but Lowes discontinued them. Where do you get them? Mark McElvy wrote: I use channelmaster 30ft telescopic masts (actually about 27') I use a foot that bolts to the roof and have a socket for the bottom of the pole and swivels to allow you stand the mast up. I then guy it to 4" eyebolts screwed into roof rafters and sealed well with silicone or roof tar. Works great. Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 20ft mast mount What is the best prduct/method for this isntallation? 1.Must have a Mast that extends 20ft-25ft beyind the peak of the roof. 2. The roof is a Metal pitched roof. Every 18" there is a lip where the metal sheets overlap, creating a channel vertically for rain to slide down. The pitch is minimal, almost flat, about 5ft rise from edge to center peak, which is about 75ft wide. 3. The backwall to the ground pavement (2 stories) is also a metal, which has mountable space up top, but loading shop door underneith along the first story of wall. 4. Will be mounting a 12" or smaller panel antenna, fed with Coax. My thought is I'd either use some sort of Tri-pod mount, and fasten straight down onto the roof Peak, about 5-10ft from the back edge. Then use 3 Guy wires spread equally around all sides, such as fasten to peak, and two to the roof's edges. Alternatively, I could use M-Mounts to the wall, with up to 10feet of cantelever leverage below peak, but then I would not be able to put guy wires equally on three sides. (As there would be nothing to tie to on the side over the edge of wall. (Nothing can extend to the ground because of Car Traffic entering into the shop from the back. So what is the best way to mount? Is there a Tri-pod peak mount designed for 20-25ft and guy wires? Is there a support rod option that can get rid of the need to have Guy wires equally on all side, if used wall M mounts? Is this just a combination of the standard Rohn Telescoping Mast with a standard Rohn Tri-pod? Any Best practices for securing Tri-pod down onto Metal Roof? If any vendors have a solution for this, please hit me offlist, for immediate purchase. PS. in the past, for this type install, I'd mount too wall, extend the pole down to the ground, with concrete at the base, but not an option for this job, to go to ground level. Thanks. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Dan Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Emergency request for a RB532 Try counter to counter directly at the airline. They call it goldstreak here. It's not too expensive here ($50) and they will take it from counter to counter at another airport that has a similar service and a direct flight. They probably have something similar down there that you can use. Just takes the time of the flight plus a few hours. I know Alaska Airlines has it but others probably do also. D. Ryan Spott wrote: Yeah I did know that. I did some quick pricing and the cost was more than the 532! Thanks! ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: 10/15/07 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Emergency request for a RB532 You do know that most airlines and the UPS/Fedex/DHL companies offer a same day service? Not cheap but probably less than a 10+ hour drive and its expenses. Walter ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until Augu
RE: [WISPA] 20ft mast mount
I use channelmaster 30ft telescopic masts (actually about 27') I use a foot that bolts to the roof and have a socket for the bottom of the pole and swivels to allow you stand the mast up. I then guy it to 4" eyebolts screwed into roof rafters and sealed well with silicone or roof tar. Works great. Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 3:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 20ft mast mount What is the best prduct/method for this isntallation? 1.Must have a Mast that extends 20ft-25ft beyind the peak of the roof. 2. The roof is a Metal pitched roof. Every 18" there is a lip where the metal sheets overlap, creating a channel vertically for rain to slide down. The pitch is minimal, almost flat, about 5ft rise from edge to center peak, which is about 75ft wide. 3. The backwall to the ground pavement (2 stories) is also a metal, which has mountable space up top, but loading shop door underneith along the first story of wall. 4. Will be mounting a 12" or smaller panel antenna, fed with Coax. My thought is I'd either use some sort of Tri-pod mount, and fasten straight down onto the roof Peak, about 5-10ft from the back edge. Then use 3 Guy wires spread equally around all sides, such as fasten to peak, and two to the roof's edges. Alternatively, I could use M-Mounts to the wall, with up to 10feet of cantelever leverage below peak, but then I would not be able to put guy wires equally on three sides. (As there would be nothing to tie to on the side over the edge of wall. (Nothing can extend to the ground because of Car Traffic entering into the shop from the back. So what is the best way to mount? Is there a Tri-pod peak mount designed for 20-25ft and guy wires? Is there a support rod option that can get rid of the need to have Guy wires equally on all side, if used wall M mounts? Is this just a combination of the standard Rohn Telescoping Mast with a standard Rohn Tri-pod? Any Best practices for securing Tri-pod down onto Metal Roof? If any vendors have a solution for this, please hit me offlist, for immediate purchase. PS. in the past, for this type install, I'd mount too wall, extend the pole down to the ground, with concrete at the base, but not an option for this job, to go to ground level. Thanks. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Dan Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Emergency request for a RB532 > Try counter to counter directly at the airline. They call it goldstreak > here. It's not too expensive here ($50) and they will take it from counter > to counter at another airport that has a similar service and a direct > flight. They probably have something similar down there that you can use. > Just takes the time of the flight plus a few hours. I know Alaska Airlines > has it but others probably do also. > > > D. Ryan Spott wrote: >> Yeah I did know that. >> >> I did some quick pricing and the cost was more than the 532! >> >> Thanks! >> >> ryan -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: wireless@wispa.org >> Sent: 10/15/07 9:38 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Emergency request for a RB532 >> >> You do know that most airlines and the UPS/Fedex/DHL companies offer a >> same day service? Not cheap but probably less than a 10+ hour drive and >> its expenses. >> >> Walter >> >> >> >> ** See what's new at >> http://www.aol.com >> >> >> ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at >> ISPCON ** >> ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** >> ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** >> ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** >> ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at >> http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at >> ISPCON ** >> ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** >> ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** >> ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** >> ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at >> http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** >> >>
[WISPA] ISPCON Notes
WISPA held its biannual reception at ISPCON last night. Attendance was fabulous with a crowd that reached overcapacity for the room we had reserved. We want to thank all members, potential members and vendors who came to the reception and shared this time with us. The highlight of the evening was the announcement of the WISPA Outstanding WISP Operator of the Year Award. President Matt Larsen made this presentation following an outstanding speech about WISPA, our accomplishments and our goals for the future. This year’s winner was Travis Johnson of IDA.Net. Travis received a very nice plaque for his accomplishments of serving around 4000 clients in the rough terrain of Idaho. Our sincere congratulations go out to Travis, his staff and his family. Great Job! We also want to thank Imagestream and Powercode for sponsoring the reception. Without vendor support, many events such as this would not be possible. Special thanks to JC Utter and John Wright for stepping up to the plate this year. We also held a raffle at the end of the reception. Doorprizes were donated by many vendors and the winners are listed below. Thanks to all the vendors who supported this raffle. CTI & NetSapiens (5) $500 discount on a NetSapiens Starter Pack Donny Smith – Jaguar Communications Nathan Stooke – Wisper ISP Mark Lemmo – I Node Infotech Marcus Mamolen – Giglinx Patrick Nix – Computer Network Solutions CTI (5) Free RB/153 with indoor cases with your next purchase from CTI James McDonald – Homeland Internet Walter Mendizabal – Metrocom Mark Perrone – W-PNP Dave Giles – Invisimax Robert Gruhn – High Density Network Butch Evans Consulting Free Hour of Consulting for Imagestream, Mikrotik or StarOS Dan Lubar – Relay Services Alvarion (1) Free BH100 Backhaul Mike Delp – Wisper ISP Jack Unger – (1) Autographed Copy of Deploying License-Free Wireless Wide-Area Networks Scott Cress – Hughes Ascendance - GWP116VE Access Point Client Bridge FCC Certified Jeff Crews – Eastern Oregon Net Wisp-Router (1) 10% Discount on next purchase up to $200 Ben Hulet – MotherLode Internet JeffCo Soho (1) Mikrotik 532Ar5 L4 in NEMA4 enclosure Bill Hagestand – VISI Trango Broadband (1) $100 Amex Gift Card Tom Laydon – X1 Communications WISPA Shirts (3) Perry Roach – Netsweeper Stephen Coran – Rini Coran, PC Suzanne Peters – WeRoam Wireless Mapping (1) Free Coverage Map and Google Earth File for up to 6 tower sites Adam Kennedy – Cyberlink We also are sporting a new booth this year thanks to the efforts of the promotions committee. The graphics look very professional and we received many compliments. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1075 - Release Date: 10/17/2007 9:38 AM ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Wireless Conv in San Jose this week
http://www.thegoldengroup.net/upload/ISPCON_GPs/ISPCON-ImageStream.pdf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ralph Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:07 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Conv in San Jose this week Can anyone fix me up with a floor pass? I have a colleague that suddenly found time in her schedule to go. Thanks Ralph ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
