Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread RickG
I remember a while back somebody showed a very nice design of a collar
that went around the hatch neck.
-RickG

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:01 PM, St. Louis Broadband
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water
> towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing tube
> and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the bulb.
> How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice?  Any
> ideas on basic costs?
>
> Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html
>
> Also this was a method mentioned on another thread:
> http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
> These guys are nice but $3k apiece.  I am thinking that if you went that
> route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe between
> each creating a triangle and mount to that.  I am not sure how long they
> would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move your
> network these come along versus a welded situation.
>
> Thanks,
> Victoria
>
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Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email

2008-11-08 Thread John Thomas
Most ISP's  I know of charge $5 per account per month, so that seems to 
be an accepted price.

John


Josh Luthman wrote:
> Personally without an internet package I'd do 10 or 15
>
> On 11/6/08, Jerry Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> $5/month per address
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>> __
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>> airCloud Communications
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>> -Original Message-
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>> I think we keep it alive for $5/month.
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>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:12 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] cancelled customer email
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>> 
>>> OK guys. I've never had this happen before so I'm not usre what to do.
>>> I've got a long time customer that has fallen for the AT&T DSL
>>> giveaway package and is switching. He asked if he could pay a small
>>> monthly rate to keep his email addresses for a few months until he
>>> gets the word out. My first reaction is to tell him to take a flying
>>> leap. After some thought, I want to be reasonable. I've thought about
>>> telling him he can do so with a low end plan. We dont sell email
>>> accounts. How do you handle this?
>>> -RickG
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Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Bob,

Was hoping you would pipe in.  Well there you have it!  This is the way that
I will go.
Do you have a ball park figure of what this might cost?

Here is a pic of the tower: www.stlbroadband.com/h2o.html

Thanks!


On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:14 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> V-
>
> CSW is the way to go.
>
>  In my book magnets on an elevated structure is just a bad idea. I know we
> have expelled a ton of bandwidth in the past on this subject but I would
> look at how it would reflect in court if I had an issue.
>
> I would not put anything on a tank I could not repel (descend) from. Do it
> and do it right. Don't take chances and don't reinvent the wheel.
>
> You can purchase heavy duty tank tripods from Site Pro 1 (www.sitepro1.com)
> and get someone to install them for ya.
>
> I am sure the water authority's engineering staff would also approve the
> CSW mwthod faster.
>
> Good luck
>
> Bob
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> -Original Message-
> From: "St. Louis Broadband" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:37:39
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...
>
>
> Are the magnets the best (most cost effective) way of completing this type
> of install?  Or is capacitive discharge stud welding going to be the better
> route?
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Brian Rohrbacher
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> > Do a little reading on rare earth magnets (the strongest magnet there
> > is).  You might be able to do some calculations and figure out what you
> > would to build your own.
> > Here are a couple sites I just googled.  I think all you need to do is
> > figure out how much pull force you need to offset the wind load.
> >
> > http://www.kjmagnetics.com/neomaginfo.asp
> > http://www.indigo.com/magnets/rare-earth-magnets.html
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > St. Louis Broadband wrote:
> > > I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water
> > > towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing
> > tube
> > > and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the
> > bulb.
> > > How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice?
> >  Any
> > > ideas on basic costs?
> > >
> > > Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html
> > >
> > > Also this was a method mentioned on another thread:
> > > http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
> > > These guys are nice but $3k apiece.  I am thinking that if you went
> that
> > > route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe
> > between
> > > each creating a triangle and mount to that.  I am not sure how long
> they
> > > would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move
> > your
> > > network these come along versus a welded situation.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Victoria
> > >
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Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread lakeland
V-

CSW is the way to go.

 In my book magnets on an elevated structure is just a bad idea. I know we have 
expelled a ton of bandwidth in the past on this subject but I would look at how 
it would reflect in court if I had an issue. 

I would not put anything on a tank I could not repel (descend) from. Do it and 
do it right. Don't take chances and don't reinvent the wheel.

You can purchase heavy duty tank tripods from Site Pro 1 (www.sitepro1.com) and 
get someone to install them for ya.

I am sure the water authority's engineering staff would also approve the CSW 
mwthod faster.

Good luck

Bob

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "St. Louis Broadband" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:37:39 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...


Are the magnets the best (most cost effective) way of completing this type
of install?  Or is capacitive discharge stud welding going to be the better
route?


On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Brian Rohrbacher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Do a little reading on rare earth magnets (the strongest magnet there
> is).  You might be able to do some calculations and figure out what you
> would to build your own.
> Here are a couple sites I just googled.  I think all you need to do is
> figure out how much pull force you need to offset the wind load.
>
> http://www.kjmagnetics.com/neomaginfo.asp
> http://www.indigo.com/magnets/rare-earth-magnets.html
>
> Brian
>
> St. Louis Broadband wrote:
> > I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water
> > towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing
> tube
> > and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the
> bulb.
> > How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice?
>  Any
> > ideas on basic costs?
> >
> > Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html
> >
> > Also this was a method mentioned on another thread:
> > http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
> > These guys are nice but $3k apiece.  I am thinking that if you went that
> > route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe
> between
> > each creating a triangle and mount to that.  I am not sure how long they
> > would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move
> your
> > network these come along versus a welded situation.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Victoria
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] 1.9ghz?

2008-11-08 Thread George Rogato
I use dect phones across my voip. I have two voips, VOX and my own * 
rolled system with voipjet as the upstream and I have no problems with 
quality.

I've got those Panasonic ones. Maybe thats the difference.

George

jp wrote:
> One of the guys at work got one, and it plain out sucked for VOIP use, 
> and was slightly lower quality than the normal cordless junk for normal 
> use.
> 
> Basically, too many digital conversions. Goes from analog in the handset 
> to G726 32kbps through the air, back to analog, G729 over the Internet 
> to the SIP gateway, 64k digital through the PSTN, and analog or possibly 
> any variation of digitals depending on who you call (cellular, pots, 
> voip, etc..) 
> 
> I use a $20 2.4 or 5.8ghz walmart low-tech special and have the best 
> sound quality short of using a corded phone. I prefer corded handset.
> 
> On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 04:29:12PM -0700, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Yep, pretty cool huh?
>> We recommend only DECT 6.0 and that is the only thing we stock in our store.
>> - Original Message - 
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>>> Hi,
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>>> I wasn't aware you could get a cordless phone that operates in 1.9ghz???
>>>
>>> Uniden DECT2080-2 shows it operates in the "interference free cordless
>>> frequency".
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Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Magnets don't lose their magnetism unless heated to very high
temperatures.  In warm temperatures (achievable at the top of a water
tower) it may lose a little bit, but it returns to normal once it is
cooled.

On 11/8/08, St. Louis Broadband <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water
> towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing tube
> and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the bulb.
> How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice?  Any
> ideas on basic costs?
>
> Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html
>
> Also this was a method mentioned on another thread:
> http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
> These guys are nice but $3k apiece.  I am thinking that if you went that
> route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe between
> each creating a triangle and mount to that.  I am not sure how long they
> would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move your
> network these come along versus a welded situation.
>
> Thanks,
> Victoria
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Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I would weld if the tank owner allows.

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Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...


> Are the magnets the best (most cost effective) way of completing this type
> of install?  Or is capacitive discharge stud welding going to be the 
> better
> route?
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Brian Rohrbacher
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Do a little reading on rare earth magnets (the strongest magnet there
>> is).  You might be able to do some calculations and figure out what you
>> would to build your own.
>> Here are a couple sites I just googled.  I think all you need to do is
>> figure out how much pull force you need to offset the wind load.
>>
>> http://www.kjmagnetics.com/neomaginfo.asp
>> http://www.indigo.com/magnets/rare-earth-magnets.html
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> St. Louis Broadband wrote:
>> > I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water
>> > towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing
>> tube
>> > and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the
>> bulb.
>> > How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice?
>>  Any
>> > ideas on basic costs?
>> >
>> > Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html
>> >
>> > Also this was a method mentioned on another thread:
>> > http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
>> > These guys are nice but $3k apiece.  I am thinking that if you went 
>> > that
>> > route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe
>> between
>> > each creating a triangle and mount to that.  I am not sure how long 
>> > they
>> > would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move
>> your
>> > network these come along versus a welded situation.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Victoria
>> >
>> >
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Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Are the magnets the best (most cost effective) way of completing this type
of install?  Or is capacitive discharge stud welding going to be the better
route?


On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Brian Rohrbacher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Do a little reading on rare earth magnets (the strongest magnet there
> is).  You might be able to do some calculations and figure out what you
> would to build your own.
> Here are a couple sites I just googled.  I think all you need to do is
> figure out how much pull force you need to offset the wind load.
>
> http://www.kjmagnetics.com/neomaginfo.asp
> http://www.indigo.com/magnets/rare-earth-magnets.html
>
> Brian
>
> St. Louis Broadband wrote:
> > I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water
> > towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing
> tube
> > and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the
> bulb.
> > How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice?
>  Any
> > ideas on basic costs?
> >
> > Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html
> >
> > Also this was a method mentioned on another thread:
> > http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
> > These guys are nice but $3k apiece.  I am thinking that if you went that
> > route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe
> between
> > each creating a triangle and mount to that.  I am not sure how long they
> > would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move
> your
> > network these come along versus a welded situation.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Victoria
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
And you will need to become familiar with the term "overturning momemt". 
(arm * distance = moment)
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Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...


> Do a little reading on rare earth magnets (the strongest magnet there
> is).  You might be able to do some calculations and figure out what you
> would to build your own.
> Here are a couple sites I just googled.  I think all you need to do is
> figure out how much pull force you need to offset the wind load.
>
> http://www.kjmagnetics.com/neomaginfo.asp
> http://www.indigo.com/magnets/rare-earth-magnets.html
>
> Brian
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> St. Louis Broadband wrote:
>> I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water
>> towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing 
>> tube
>> and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the 
>> bulb.
>> How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice? 
>> Any
>> ideas on basic costs?
>>
>> Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html
>>
>> Also this was a method mentioned on another thread:
>> http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
>> These guys are nice but $3k apiece.  I am thinking that if you went that
>> route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe 
>> between
>> each creating a triangle and mount to that.  I am not sure how long they
>> would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move 
>> your
>> network these come along versus a welded situation.
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Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Do a little reading on rare earth magnets (the strongest magnet there 
is).  You might be able to do some calculations and figure out what you 
would to build your own.
Here are a couple sites I just googled.  I think all you need to do is 
figure out how much pull force you need to offset the wind load.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/neomaginfo.asp
http://www.indigo.com/magnets/rare-earth-magnets.html

Brian

St. Louis Broadband wrote:
> I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water
> towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing tube
> and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the bulb.
> How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice?  Any
> ideas on basic costs?
>
> Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html
>
> Also this was a method mentioned on another thread:
> http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
> These guys are nice but $3k apiece.  I am thinking that if you went that
> route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe between
> each creating a triangle and mount to that.  I am not sure how long they
> would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move your
> network these come along versus a welded situation.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Bullet

2008-11-08 Thread Brian Rohrbacher




Streakwave is a good one.

Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:

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Nope they have not shipped the first batch out yet expected to ship next 
week to their distributors.

/Eje
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[WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread St. Louis Broadband
I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water
towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing tube
and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the bulb.
How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice?  Any
ideas on basic costs?

Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html

Also this was a method mentioned on another thread:
http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
These guys are nice but $3k apiece.  I am thinking that if you went that
route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe between
each creating a triangle and mount to that.  I am not sure how long they
would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move your
network these come along versus a welded situation.

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Bullet

2008-11-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Bullet

2008-11-08 Thread eje
Nope they have not shipped the first batch out yet expected to ship next week 
to their distributors. 

/Eje 
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Re: [WISPA] OT election results

2008-11-08 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Um, What is the charter for this list  I can't find it.

I originally asked what people thought the election would do to their 
businesses.  This is very much a valid topic for this list.

I agree with Tom.  Wa. state is a very expensive state to operate in.  We 
get taxed if we make money, we get taxed if we don't.

I'll not even get into the issues with Wa. being specifically exempted from 
the federal no taxes on the internet problems.

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Bullet

2008-11-08 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
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