Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Some spectacular views of theabandonedRussian Woodpecker antenna array
Yep. I remember the Woodpecker too. It really made a mess of the 40 meter ham band. _ _ . . . . . . _ _ . ... _ _ . _ . Chuck McCown wrote: I remember the woodpecker. Have not been on HF in years. Need to get a QRP rig and do some CW. - Original Message - From: "jp" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Some spectacular views of theabandonedRussian Woodpecker antenna array Looks like a bigger version of the 8-bay UHF television antenna I just ordered for OTA HD service. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 06:33:25AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: H, wonder how far we could shoot a wifi signal with one of these? grin marlon This gigantic antenna system called Duga-3 is located near Prypiat in the Chernobyl area. It was built in the 70's as an early missile detection system (over-the-horizon radar system). It was also called the Steel Yard hence its distinctive appearance. The antenna was deactivated in 1989. The Russian Woodpecker was a notorious Soviet signal that could be heard on the shortwave radio bands worldwide between July 1976 and December 1989. It sounded like a sharp, repetitive tapping noise, at 10 Hz, giving rise to the "Woodpecker" name. The random frequency disrupted legitimate broadcast, amateur radio, and utility transmissions and resulted in thousands of complaints by many countries worldwide. Starting in 1976 a new and powerful radio signal was detected worldwide, and quickly dubbed the Woodpecker by amateur radio operators. Transmission power on some woodpecker transmitters was estimated to be as high as 10 MW EIRP. As well as disrupting shortwave amateur radio and broadcasting it could sometimes be heard over telephone circuits due to the strength of the signals. This led to a thriving industry of "Woodpecker filters" and noise blankers. http://www.artificialowl.net/2008/12/abandoned-giant-duga-3-system-antenna.html _ This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ http://gigliwood.com/abcd/ _ You live life online. So we put Windows on the web. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032869/direct/01/ ___ ___ TowerTalk mailing list towert...@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk ___ ___ TowerTalk mailing list towert...@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" WISPs - Do you know where your customers are? For wireless coverage mapping see http://www.ask-wi.com/mapping FCC Lic. #PG-12-25133 LinkedIn Profile Phone 818-227-4220 Email WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIP
A routing protocol like RIP should not make your network slower (or faster). Although if I remember correctly, RIP does send out frequent network updates, even if nothing changes. So I guess it's possible if you have a lot of RIP devices all sending out updates, it could be creating some traffic that would cause things to be slower. I would be checking more with the new firewall you just installed to make sure everything is working correctly with it. Travis RickG wrote: My network is currently mostly WRAP boards running StarOS. As I do maintenence, repairs, or expand new towers, I am adding Routerboards running MT. I turned up a new Mikrotik Firewall several weeks ago. The real reason for my question is that we turn on RIP several weeks ago and the network seems slower. -RickG On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 1:49 AM, Butch Evans wrote: On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 00:13 -0500, RickG wrote: Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? If you wish to build a NEW dynamic routing based network, use OSPF if you can. If you are integrating a legacy network that is already running RIP, then it works, but there's a reason that NEW dynamic routing technologies were created. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIP
My network is currently mostly WRAP boards running StarOS. As I do maintenence, repairs, or expand new towers, I am adding Routerboards running MT. I turned up a new Mikrotik Firewall several weeks ago. The real reason for my question is that we turn on RIP several weeks ago and the network seems slower. -RickG On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 1:49 AM, Butch Evans wrote: > On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 00:13 -0500, RickG wrote: >> Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? > > If you wish to build a NEW dynamic routing based network, use OSPF if > you can. If you are integrating a legacy network that is already > running RIP, then it works, but there's a reason that NEW dynamic > routing technologies were created. > > -- > > * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* > * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * > * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * > * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIP
BGP isn't that hard to get working. I am using private ASNs for sites with bgp. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 01:57:48PM -0600, Sam Tetherow wrote: > Speaking of OSPF, I've tried running it several times and sections of my > network seem to disappear from time to time. Mostly notably old RB230s > running MT 2.8. Anyone have any suggestionns? > > Sam Tetherow > Sandhills Wireless > > e...@wisp-router.com wrote: > > Good to talk with legacy products. For a "new" network use OSPF. > > > > /Eje > > --Original Message-- > > From: RickG > > Sender: > > To: WISPA General List > > ReplyTo: WISPA General List > > Subject: [WISPA] RIP > > Sent: Dec 18, 2008 23:13 > > > > Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? > > -RickG > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIP
Speaking of OSPF, I've tried running it several times and sections of my network seem to disappear from time to time. Mostly notably old RB230s running MT 2.8. Anyone have any suggestionns? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless e...@wisp-router.com wrote: > Good to talk with legacy products. For a "new" network use OSPF. > > /Eje > --Original Message-- > From: RickG > Sender: > To: WISPA General List > ReplyTo: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] RIP > Sent: Dec 18, 2008 23:13 > > Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? > -RickG > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIAA
We tell them they have to make nice with the RIAA. Once they do that we turn them back on. - Original Message - From: "CHUCK PROFITO" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIAA > Chuck, > Oops, we have never been notified, I assumed this was a different > approach. > Have you turned them back on? What was your criteria for this? > > Chuck Profito > 209-988-7388 > CV-ACCESS, INC > cprof...@cv-access.com > Providing High Speed Broadband > to Rural Central California > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Chuck McCown > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:15 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIAA > > We always kill the customer when the RIAA sends a notification. How is > this > > different? > - Original Message - > From: "CHUCK PROFITO" > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:05 AM > Subject: [WISPA] RIAA > > >> Now the RIAA wants us to be the bad guy and do the work for them !!! >> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10127050-93.html >> >> also read the 3rd related article >> >> >> Chuck Profito >> 209-988-7388 >> CV-ACCESS, INC >> cprof...@cv-access.com >> Providing High Speed Broadband >> to Rural Central California >> >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIAA
Chuck, Oops, we have never been notified, I assumed this was a different approach. Have you turned them back on? What was your criteria for this? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIAA We always kill the customer when the RIAA sends a notification. How is this different? - Original Message - From: "CHUCK PROFITO" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: [WISPA] RIAA > Now the RIAA wants us to be the bad guy and do the work for them !!! > http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10127050-93.html > > also read the 3rd related article > > > Chuck Profito > 209-988-7388 > CV-ACCESS, INC > cprof...@cv-access.com > Providing High Speed Broadband > to Rural Central California > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIAA
We always kill the customer when the RIAA sends a notification. How is this different? - Original Message - From: "CHUCK PROFITO" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: [WISPA] RIAA > Now the RIAA wants us to be the bad guy and do the work for them !!! > http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10127050-93.html > > also read the 3rd related article > > > Chuck Profito > 209-988-7388 > CV-ACCESS, INC > cprof...@cv-access.com > Providing High Speed Broadband > to Rural Central California > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RIAA
Now the RIAA wants us to be the bad guy and do the work for them !!! http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10127050-93.html also read the 3rd related article Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Some spectacular views of theabandonedRussian Woodpecker antenna array
I remember the woodpecker. Have not been on HF in years. Need to get a QRP rig and do some CW. - Original Message - From: "jp" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Some spectacular views of theabandonedRussian Woodpecker antenna array > Looks like a bigger version of the 8-bay UHF television antenna I just > ordered for OTA HD service. > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 06:33:25AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> H, wonder how far we could shoot a wifi signal with one of these? >> grin >> marlon >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> This gigantic antenna system called Duga-3 is located near Prypiat >> >> in the Chernobyl area. It was built in the 70's as an early missile >> >> detection system (over-the-horizon radar system). It was also >> >> called the Steel Yard hence its distinctive appearance. The antenna >> >> was deactivated in 1989. >> >> >> >> The Russian Woodpecker was a notorious Soviet signal that could be >> >> heard on the shortwave radio bands worldwide between July 1976 and >> >> December 1989. It sounded like a sharp, repetitive tapping noise, at >> >> 10 Hz, giving rise to the "Woodpecker" name. The random frequency >> >> disrupted legitimate broadcast, amateur radio, and utility >> >> transmissions and resulted in thousands of complaints by many >> >> countries worldwide. >> >> >> >> Starting in 1976 a new and powerful radio signal was detected >> >> worldwide, and quickly dubbed the Woodpecker by amateur radio >> >> operators. Transmission power on some woodpecker transmitters was >> >> estimated to be as high as 10 MW EIRP. As well as disrupting >> >> shortwave amateur radio and broadcasting it could sometimes be heard >> >> over telephone circuits due to the strength of the signals. This >> >> led to a thriving industry of "Woodpecker filters" and noise >> >> blankers. >> >> >> >> http://www.artificialowl.net/2008/12/abandoned-giant-duga-3-system-antenna.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _ >> >> >> >> This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. >> >> >> >> http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ >> >> >> >> >> >> http://gigliwood.com/abcd/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _ >> >> You live life online. So we put Windows on the web. >> >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032869/direct/01/ >> >> ___ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> TowerTalk mailing list >> >> towert...@contesting.com >> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > TowerTalk mailing list >> > towert...@contesting.com >> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > /* > Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL >KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting > http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ > */ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIP
Not so sure about the experimental statement. I don't have a mesh network. I have about 1000 radios in the air and it's OLSR. As a matter of fact we're getting ready to take down what OSPF we have pretty soon. Rock solid. George Butch Evans wrote: > On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 22:27 -0800, George Rogato wrote: >> I will see your OSPF and raise it with an OLSR > > OLSR is designed for mesh networks. It doesn't really apply to this > particular question. Not to mention, OLSR is still pretty experimental. > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] SR9
I thought I saw something come through e-mail for someone looking for the SR-9 cards. If so, we have two that we want to get rid of. Contact off list please :) -Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fw: [WISPA CALEA Questions] Trango and CALEA
Jesse is one of the main writers of the WISPA CALEA standard. marlon - Original Message - From: "Jesse Norell" To: "Josh Luthman" Cc: "CALEA Questions" Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA CALEA Questions] [WISPA] Trango and CALEA > On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 09:57 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: >> So as long as you offer the data they ask regardless of what you >> actually collect that is acceptable? > > Correct, you can "over collect" data, then you filter out just what > you need and only give them that. And if you're following a standard > like WCS-IPNA, you would make/record the checksums on only the data you > present the LEA. > > >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >> --- Henry Spencer >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Jeff Broadwick >> wrote: >> Not if you have a collector behind the tap. You can still >> filter out the >> traffic that you don't need for the warrant. >> >> Jeff >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:50 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA >> >> That was my only idea, however that includes data from other >> CPE radios >> which voids the rules of engagement :/ >> >> On 12/19/08, Jeff Broadwick wrote: >> > That would be my suggestion. That's radio vendor neutral. >> > >> > Jeff >> > >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: caleaquestions-boun...@wispa.org >> > [mailto:caleaquestions-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of >> Marlon K. >> > Schafer >> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:21 AM >> > To: WISPA General List >> > Cc: caleaquesti...@wispa.org >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA CALEA Questions] [WISPA] Trango and >> CALEA >> > >> > You'll just have to drop a tap in right behind the AP. >> > >> > If you have client to client allowed I have no idea how to >> help you. >> > >> > Anyone else have any ideas for Josh? (remember to hit reply >> all) >> > marlon >> > >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Josh Luthman" >> > To: "WISPA General List" >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:50 AM >> > Subject: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA >> > >> > >> >> Has anyone got any ideas on how to use Trango's p2mp >> equipment and >> >> support CALEA? >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> >> 1100 Wayne St >> >> Suite 1337 >> >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent >> it, poorly. >> >> --- Henry Spencer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> > -- >> > >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> > -- >> > >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >> > ___ >> > CALEAquestions mailing list >> > caleaquesti...@wispa.org >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/caleaquestions >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> > -- >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > >> >> -- >> > -- >> > >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> > >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > >> >> >> -- >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, >>
Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA
No it doesn't. Talk to Butch and get him to build you an MT based tap device. Or go to Imagestream. They have CALEA devices too. You'll need a server to do the store and forward too. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA > That was my only idea, however that includes data from other CPE > radios which voids the rules of engagement :/ > > On 12/19/08, Jeff Broadwick wrote: >> That would be my suggestion. That's radio vendor neutral. >> >> Jeff >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: caleaquestions-boun...@wispa.org >> [mailto:caleaquestions-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:21 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Cc: caleaquesti...@wispa.org >> Subject: Re: [WISPA CALEA Questions] [WISPA] Trango and CALEA >> >> You'll just have to drop a tap in right behind the AP. >> >> If you have client to client allowed I have no idea how to help you. >> >> Anyone else have any ideas for Josh? (remember to hit reply all) marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Josh Luthman" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:50 AM >> Subject: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA >> >> >>> Has anyone got any ideas on how to use Trango's p2mp equipment and >>> support >>> CALEA? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >>> --- Henry Spencer >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >> >> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> ___ >> CALEAquestions mailing list >> caleaquesti...@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/caleaquestions >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > -- > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > --- Henry Spencer > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Some spectacular views of the abandonedRussian Woodpecker antenna array
Looks like a bigger version of the 8-bay UHF television antenna I just ordered for OTA HD service. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 06:33:25AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > H, wonder how far we could shoot a wifi signal with one of these? grin > marlon > > > > >> > >> > >> This gigantic antenna system called Duga-3 is located near Prypiat > >> in the Chernobyl area. It was built in the 70's as an early missile > >> detection system (over-the-horizon radar system). It was also > >> called the Steel Yard hence its distinctive appearance. The antenna > >> was deactivated in 1989. > >> > >> The Russian Woodpecker was a notorious Soviet signal that could be > >> heard on the shortwave radio bands worldwide between July 1976 and > >> December 1989. It sounded like a sharp, repetitive tapping noise, at > >> 10 Hz, giving rise to the "Woodpecker" name. The random frequency > >> disrupted legitimate broadcast, amateur radio, and utility > >> transmissions and resulted in thousands of complaints by many > >> countries worldwide. > >> > >> Starting in 1976 a new and powerful radio signal was detected > >> worldwide, and quickly dubbed the Woodpecker by amateur radio > >> operators. Transmission power on some woodpecker transmitters was > >> estimated to be as high as 10 MW EIRP. As well as disrupting > >> shortwave amateur radio and broadcasting it could sometimes be heard > >> over telephone circuits due to the strength of the signals. This > >> led to a thriving industry of "Woodpecker filters" and noise > >> blankers. > >> > >> http://www.artificialowl.net/2008/12/abandoned-giant-duga-3-system-antenna.html > >> > >> > >> > >> _ > >> > >> This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. > >> > >> http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ > >> > >> > >> http://gigliwood.com/abcd/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _ > >> You live life online. So we put Windows on the web. > >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032869/direct/01/ > >> ___ > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> TowerTalk mailing list > >> towert...@contesting.com > >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk > >> > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > ___ > > TowerTalk mailing list > > towert...@contesting.com > > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Some spectacular views of theabandonedRussian Woodpecker antenna array
Not 10 Hz carrier frequency, 10 Hz pulse repetition frequency. At any rate, not useful for WiFi. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Blake Bowers wrote: > Probably 10 feet or so, seeing as that antenna was > resonant at 10hz > > > Don't take your organs to heaven, > heaven knows we need them down here! > Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. > > - Original Message - > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:33 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Some spectacular views of > theabandonedRussian Woodpecker antenna array > > >> H, wonder how far we could shoot a wifi signal with one of these? >> grin >> marlon > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA
So as long as you offer the data they ask regardless of what you actually collect that is acceptable? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: > Not if you have a collector behind the tap. You can still filter out the > traffic that you don't need for the warrant. > > Jeff > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:50 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA > > That was my only idea, however that includes data from other CPE radios > which voids the rules of engagement :/ > > On 12/19/08, Jeff Broadwick wrote: > > That would be my suggestion. That's radio vendor neutral. > > > > Jeff > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: caleaquestions-boun...@wispa.org > > [mailto:caleaquestions-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. > > Schafer > > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:21 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Cc: caleaquesti...@wispa.org > > Subject: Re: [WISPA CALEA Questions] [WISPA] Trango and CALEA > > > > You'll just have to drop a tap in right behind the AP. > > > > If you have client to client allowed I have no idea how to help you. > > > > Anyone else have any ideas for Josh? (remember to hit reply all) > > marlon > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Josh Luthman" > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:50 AM > > Subject: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA > > > > > >> Has anyone got any ideas on how to use Trango's p2mp equipment and > >> support CALEA? > >> > >> Josh Luthman > >> Office: 937-552-2340 > >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> 1100 Wayne St > >> Suite 1337 > >> Troy, OH 45373 > >> > >> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > >> --- Henry Spencer > >> > >> > >> > > -- > > -- > > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > > -- > > -- > > > >> > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > ___ > > CALEAquestions mailing list > > caleaquesti...@wispa.org > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/caleaquestions > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > > -- > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > -- > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > --- Henry Spencer > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA
Not if you have a collector behind the tap. You can still filter out the traffic that you don't need for the warrant. Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA That was my only idea, however that includes data from other CPE radios which voids the rules of engagement :/ On 12/19/08, Jeff Broadwick wrote: > That would be my suggestion. That's radio vendor neutral. > > Jeff > > > -Original Message- > From: caleaquestions-boun...@wispa.org > [mailto:caleaquestions-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. > Schafer > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:21 AM > To: WISPA General List > Cc: caleaquesti...@wispa.org > Subject: Re: [WISPA CALEA Questions] [WISPA] Trango and CALEA > > You'll just have to drop a tap in right behind the AP. > > If you have client to client allowed I have no idea how to help you. > > Anyone else have any ideas for Josh? (remember to hit reply all) > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:50 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA > > >> Has anyone got any ideas on how to use Trango's p2mp equipment and >> support CALEA? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >> --- Henry Spencer >> >> >> > -- > -- > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > -- > -- > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > ___ > CALEAquestions mailing list > caleaquesti...@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/caleaquestions > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Some spectacular views of theabandonedRussian Woodpecker antenna array
Probably 10 feet or so, seeing as that antenna was resonant at 10hz Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:33 AM Subject: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Some spectacular views of theabandonedRussian Woodpecker antenna array > H, wonder how far we could shoot a wifi signal with one of these? > grin > marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA
That was my only idea, however that includes data from other CPE radios which voids the rules of engagement :/ On 12/19/08, Jeff Broadwick wrote: > That would be my suggestion. That's radio vendor neutral. > > Jeff > > > -Original Message- > From: caleaquestions-boun...@wispa.org > [mailto:caleaquestions-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:21 AM > To: WISPA General List > Cc: caleaquesti...@wispa.org > Subject: Re: [WISPA CALEA Questions] [WISPA] Trango and CALEA > > You'll just have to drop a tap in right behind the AP. > > If you have client to client allowed I have no idea how to help you. > > Anyone else have any ideas for Josh? (remember to hit reply all) marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:50 AM > Subject: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA > > >> Has anyone got any ideas on how to use Trango's p2mp equipment and support >> CALEA? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >> --- Henry Spencer >> >> >> > > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> > > >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > ___ > CALEAquestions mailing list > caleaquesti...@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/caleaquestions > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
We installed Alvarion 5.8 gear for those that wanted better service. We run LOW power ap's and small sectors. marlon - Original Message - From: "Steve Barnes" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps > Need some advice here. We have this issue already but I am having to > turn down clients due to noise in the City. I have a 3 Sector 300ft > Tower 1 mile north of town of 10,000 residents. The southern sector has > the worst problem with signals due to the noise everyone's routers gives > off. So my 2.4 In the city is really bad. How are others servicing > these people? Using StarOS and Tranzeo 2.4. I also have a 5.8 sector > over the city but that is for Business Clients. > > Steve Barnes > RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of George Rogato > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:06 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps > > The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18 > percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and > young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday. > > An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or > nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that > > means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on > their wireless phones. > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_hi_te/cell_phones_only > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA CALEA Questions] Trango and CALEA
That would be my suggestion. That's radio vendor neutral. Jeff -Original Message- From: caleaquestions-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:caleaquestions-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:21 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: caleaquesti...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA CALEA Questions] [WISPA] Trango and CALEA You'll just have to drop a tap in right behind the AP. If you have client to client allowed I have no idea how to help you. Anyone else have any ideas for Josh? (remember to hit reply all) marlon - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:50 AM Subject: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA > Has anyone got any ideas on how to use Trango's p2mp equipment and support > CALEA? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > --- Henry Spencer > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ___ CALEAquestions mailing list caleaquesti...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/caleaquestions WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Some spectacular views of the abandonedRussian Woodpecker antenna array
H, wonder how far we could shoot a wifi signal with one of these? grin marlon > >> >> >> This gigantic antenna system called Duga-3 is located near Prypiat >> in the Chernobyl area. It was built in the 70's as an early missile >> detection system (over-the-horizon radar system). It was also >> called the Steel Yard hence its distinctive appearance. The antenna >> was deactivated in 1989. >> >> The Russian Woodpecker was a notorious Soviet signal that could be >> heard on the shortwave radio bands worldwide between July 1976 and >> December 1989. It sounded like a sharp, repetitive tapping noise, at >> 10 Hz, giving rise to the "Woodpecker" name. The random frequency >> disrupted legitimate broadcast, amateur radio, and utility >> transmissions and resulted in thousands of complaints by many >> countries worldwide. >> >> Starting in 1976 a new and powerful radio signal was detected >> worldwide, and quickly dubbed the Woodpecker by amateur radio >> operators. Transmission power on some woodpecker transmitters was >> estimated to be as high as 10 MW EIRP. As well as disrupting >> shortwave amateur radio and broadcasting it could sometimes be heard >> over telephone circuits due to the strength of the signals. This >> led to a thriving industry of "Woodpecker filters" and noise >> blankers. >> >> http://www.artificialowl.net/2008/12/abandoned-giant-duga-3-system-antenna.html >> >> >> >> _ >> >> This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. >> >> http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ >> >> >> http://gigliwood.com/abcd/ >> >> >> >> >> _ >> You live life online. So we put Windows on the web. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032869/direct/01/ >> ___ >> >> >> >> ___ >> TowerTalk mailing list >> towert...@contesting.com >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk >> > > > > ___ > > > > ___ > TowerTalk mailing list > towert...@contesting.com > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
Yeppers, that's going to be a huge driver for us. 3g is going in all over, but it's too expensive and too slow. Out here people that travel for work are using it, and those who's only other choice is sat. service. marlon - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps > The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18 > percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and > young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday. > > An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or > nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that > means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on > their wireless phones. > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_hi_te/cell_phones_only > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA
You'll just have to drop a tap in right behind the AP. If you have client to client allowed I have no idea how to help you. Anyone else have any ideas for Josh? (remember to hit reply all) marlon - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:50 AM Subject: [WISPA] Trango and CALEA > Has anyone got any ideas on how to use Trango's p2mp equipment and support > CALEA? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > --- Henry Spencer > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIP
Do you use anything else (Cisco, Mikrotik, StarOS)? You might be able to translate OSPF to the RIP where needed, or don't route the legacy stuff and put something before it that does it. I also second, third, or fourth (don't know how many people chimed it as of yet) OSPF. There are others (BGP, IGRP, EIGRP) that have benefits as well, but with most networks, OSPF would suffice. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:19 AM To: e...@wisp-router.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP Yeah, about the only thing we run into where we need it is with old Nortel gear. RIP RIP 1,2,3. Jeff ImageStream -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP Good to talk with legacy products. For a "new" network use OSPF. /Eje --Original Message-- From: RickG Sender: To: WISPA General List ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RIP Sent: Dec 18, 2008 23:13 Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIP
Yeah, about the only thing we run into where we need it is with old Nortel gear. RIP RIP 1,2,3. Jeff ImageStream -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP Good to talk with legacy products. For a "new" network use OSPF. /Eje --Original Message-- From: RickG Sender: To: WISPA General List ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RIP Sent: Dec 18, 2008 23:13 Anyone using RIP? Thoughts? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/