[WISPA] New employee quiz
I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless people for the job. Anyone know? Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
I sent you offlist because of the abundance of negative comments I have about them. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chris Gotstein Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] SBA Towers Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications? Are they WISP friendly? Any estimates on costs? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them. I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2
omnis and a backhaul. I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it.
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications? Are they WISP
friendly? Any estimates on costs?
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Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them. I think we are right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2 omnis and a backhaul. I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote: Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications? Are they WISP friendly? Any estimates on costs? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 tel:%2B1%20906%20774%204847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
Jay maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless people for the job. ** ** Anyone know? ** ** Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 ** ** ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] PPPoE and home router question
We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and reconnecting. Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router that works best on your wireless network? Phil ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] tower height near airport
I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site clearance. The problem is the road right next to them (road is about 200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends into a grass run-way for the airport (small town). and its also prettly close to perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000 yards away. I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and all the wonderful paperwork that way. I don't think zoning will be an issue but I'm more concerned about the tower height in relation to the airport. -- Jay DeBoer Chief Engineer Summit Digital Holdings, Inc. 100 N Roland St, Suite B McBain, MI 49657 Office: 231-825-2500 Direct: 231-908-0033 Fax: 231-908-0039 jdeb...@summitdigital.us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question
We are using Linksys e1000s and WRT54GS2’s without any trouble. Make sure you have the keep alive going in the router when you setup the PPPOE connection, I have seen that cause problems in the past. DJ Anderson Shelby Broadband 888-364-4232 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Phil Curnutt *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:45 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and reconnecting. Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router that works best on your wireless network? Phil -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4836 - Release Date: 02/27/12 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/towairSearch.jsp Daniel White (303) 746-3590 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jay DeBoer Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:38 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower height near airport I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site clearance. The problem is the road right next to them (road is about 200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends into a grass run-way for the airport (small town). and its also prettly close to perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000 yards away. I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and all the wonderful paperwork that way. I don't think zoning will be an issue but I'm more concerned about the tower height in relation to the airport. -- Jay DeBoer Chief Engineer Summit Digital Holdings, Inc. 100 N Roland St, Suite B McBain, MI 49657 Office: 231-825-2500 Direct: 231-908-0033 Fax: 231-908-0039 jdeb...@summitdigital.us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/towairSearch.jsp will give you a quick read on the need for an FAA. http://wireless.fcc.gov/outreach/index.htm?job=tower_notification will get you started on a NEPA and SHPA - but using it is voluntary. The NEPA and SHPA I would not build a new tower without having done. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/portal.jsp Will allow you file online (at no cost) for your FAA. Personally, it only takes 10 minutes to do the FAA, I would do it just to be safe. If you do, fill out all the frequencies listed as being in use. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Jay DeBoer jdeb...@summitdigital.us To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:37 AM Subject: [WISPA] tower height near airport I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site clearance. The problem is the road right next to them (road is about 200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends into a grass run-way for the airport (small town). and its also prettly close to perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000 yards away. I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and all the wonderful paperwork that way. I don't think zoning will be an issue but I'm more concerned about the tower height in relation to the airport. -- Jay DeBoer Chief Engineer Summit Digital Holdings, Inc. 100 N Roland St, Suite B McBain, MI 49657 Office: 231-825-2500 Direct: 231-908-0033 Fax: 231-908-0039 jdeb...@summitdigital.us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question
Are you sure the problem is the router and not the connection between the PPPOE server and the tower? Take a customer router and plug it in to the server as close (network wise) as you can to confirm. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Phil Curnutt pcurn...@gmail.com wrote: We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and reconnecting. Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router that works best on your wireless network? Phil ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question
using pppoe in production since years (mikrotik/airos) no problem if well configured One issue we had some years ago with airos but the bug is gone in the last versions are you sure it's a pppoe issue and not something else, like link or other things? Regards Paolo We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and reconnecting. Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router that works best on your wireless network? Phil ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport
I can not remember if it is on the FCC or FAA website, but there is a tool that will get you started. It will tell you whether you can put a tower there an dhow high. On 2/28/2012 9:37 AM, Jay DeBoer wrote: I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site clearance. The problem is the road right next to them (road is about 200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends into a grass run-way for the airport (small town). and its also prettly close to perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000 yards away. I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and all the wonderful paperwork that way. I don't think zoning will be an issue but I'm more concerned about the tower height in relation to the airport. -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question
There are a number of issues, this being one. We are updating APs and Backhaul at the same time, but this particular problem is on an updated link and presaged the upgrade. Plus the member I am working with is jacked into the Backhaul and is only one hop from the pppoe server. Phil On Tuesday, February 28, 2012, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: using pppoe in production since years (mikrotik/airos) no problem if well configured One issue we had some years ago with airos but the bug is gone in the last versions are you sure it's a pppoe issue and not something else, like link or other things? Regards Paolo We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and reconnecting. Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router that works best on your wireless network? Phil ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport
There is a consultant out there, Ken Patterson ( http://airspace-ken.com/ ) that I utilized back when I worked for Sprint and several consulting companies. I think his fee to perform a full blown air space safety analysis on a proposed new tower is like $350 and probably worth every penny. The last thing you want is to have an improper filing and then cause some kind of air space accident because your tower is not marked or lit properly, or you missed something in the filing. That could ruin lives including your own. Cameron On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/towairSearch.jsp will give you a quick read on the need for an FAA. http://wireless.fcc.gov/outreach/index.htm?job=tower_notification will get you started on a NEPA and SHPA - but using it is voluntary. The NEPA and SHPA I would not build a new tower without having done. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/portal.jsp Will allow you file online (at no cost) for your FAA. Personally, it only takes 10 minutes to do the FAA, I would do it just to be safe. If you do, fill out all the frequencies listed as being in use. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Jay DeBoer jdeb...@summitdigital.us To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:37 AM Subject: [WISPA] tower height near airport I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site clearance. The problem is the road right next to them (road is about 200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends into a grass run-way for the airport (small town). and its also prettly close to perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000 yards away. I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and all the wonderful paperwork that way. I don't think zoning will be an issue but I'm more concerned about the tower height in relation to the airport. -- Jay DeBoer Chief Engineer Summit Digital Holdings, Inc. 100 N Roland St, Suite B McBain, MI 49657 Office: 231-825-2500 Direct: 231-908-0033 Fax: 231-908-0039 jdeb...@summitdigital.us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question
We use Cisco E1000 E1200 WRT54g. We also found out that WRT110 120 and 300 320 do not pass traffic through PPPoE no matter what you do. We're also using a Microsoft network if that question was to come up. I've also found out that Belkin's are horrible for staying connected and Netgears by default are dial on demand instead of Keep Alive. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] PPPoE and home router question We have recently started switching over to PPPoE on our network and are having a devil of a time with home routers disconnecting and reconnecting. Have any of you using PPPoE found any particular router that works best on your wireless network? Phil ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
I found a decent website for online quizzes. Just looking to see what kind of questions people would go with. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz Jay maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless people for the job. Anyone know? Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 tel:317.831.3000%20ext%20211 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
Yup, Its been 10 years since I used it in my wisp. When the next line came out it did no better then Atheros based radios in my environment and cost 5x as much to deploy. I do not have a business rich environment, and even if I did, they do not like $500 installs and $100/mo. This makes my primary target residential users. Ubnt delivers now, just not in 5.4-5.7 and I have pressure to expand as well as have room to move around a competitor who has 5.4 links now but wants to replace them with 5.8. There is no (or very little) 5.8 room due to how and where both of our towers sit. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport
Just follow the links provided by Blake. Real simple. The FAA will give you a determination and you can build as required. You don't really need a third.party. things are pretty straight forward Bob - Reply message - From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] tower height near airport Date: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 9:52 am http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/towairSearch.jsp will give you a quick read on the need for an FAA. http://wireless.fcc.gov/outreach/index.htm?job=tower_notification will get you started on a NEPA and SHPA - but using it is voluntary. The NEPA and SHPA I would not build a new tower without having done. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/portal.jsp Will allow you file online (at no cost) for your FAA. Personally, it only takes 10 minutes to do the FAA, I would do it just to be safe. If you do, fill out all the frequencies listed as being in use. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Jay DeBoer jdeb...@summitdigital.us To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:37 AM Subject: [WISPA] tower height near airport I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site clearance. The problem is the road right next to them (road is about 200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends into a grass run-way for the airport (small town). and its also prettly close to perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000 yards away. I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and all the wonderful paperwork that way. I don't think zoning will be an issue but I'm more concerned about the tower height in relation to the airport. -- Jay DeBoer Chief Engineer Summit Digital Holdings, Inc. 100 N Roland St, Suite B McBain, MI 49657 Office: 231-825-2500 Direct: 231-908-0033 Fax: 231-908-0039 jdeb...@summitdigital.us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
Aleksander, the Cambium networks System its not Wimax based, its proprietary RF on FPGA so no contains or Wimax protocol compromises... 90 Mbps will be available at the AP... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Freylekhman, Alex Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
And low latency to boot!!! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Aleksander, the Cambium networks System its not Wimax based, its proprietary RF on FPGA so no contains or Wimax protocol compromises... 90 Mbps will be available at the AP... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Freylekhman, Alex Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
LOL .. the low latency is true, can't argue here. WiMAX does carry a latency of ~3-4 times the frame duration. However, MIMO is not WiMAX specific. It's about spatial multiplexing and diversity coding, the concept is pretty much the same between WiFi, WiMAX, LTE or proprietary Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear And low latency to boot!!! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Aleksander, the Cambium networks System its not Wimax based, its proprietary RF on FPGA so no contains or Wimax protocol compromises... 90 Mbps will be available at the AP... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Freylekhman, Alex Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] ISP America
We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday 3/27. There are 2 open seats. If you're coming in early for the show and want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list. Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 x102 http://mywificoverage.com http://mywificoverage.com/ http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ image001.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
The 90 mbps is all OFDM MIMO Cambium mode. I think moto-mode sounds better myself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: And low latency to boot!!! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Aleksander, the Cambium networks System its not Wimax based, its proprietary RF on FPGA so no contains or Wimax protocol compromises... 90 Mbps will be available at the AP... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Freylekhman, Alex Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
Before and After.
Regards,
Chuck
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:
Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?
** **
*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
** **
I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them. I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2
omnis and a backhaul. I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it.
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications? Are they WISP
friendly? Any estimates on costs?
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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
Well, they have the Secret Sauce... but I cant tell you! You're from the Dark Side! Lol! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Freylekhman, Alex Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear LOL .. the low latency is true, can't argue here. WiMAX does carry a latency of ~3-4 times the frame duration. However, MIMO is not WiMAX specific. It's about spatial multiplexing and diversity coding, the concept is pretty much the same between WiFi, WiMAX, LTE or proprietary Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear And low latency to boot!!! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Aleksander, the Cambium networks System its not Wimax based, its proprietary RF on FPGA so no contains or Wimax protocol compromises... 90 Mbps will be available at the AP... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Freylekhman, Alex Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] ISP America
The seats are filled. Jim From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] ISP America We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday 3/27. There are 2 open seats. If you're coming in early for the show and want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list. Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 x102 http://mywificoverage.com http://mywificoverage.com/ http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4837 - Release Date: 02/28/12 image001.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] ISP America
As in the 2 of us included or we're out? Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: The seats are filled. ** ** Jim ** ** *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jim Patient *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* [WISPA] ISP America ** ** We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday 3/27. There are 2 open seats. If you’re coming in early for the show and want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list. ** ** ** ** Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 x102 http://mywificoverage.com http://www.linktechs.net ** ** -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4837 - Release Date: 02/28/12* *** ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless image001.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
Story of my life .. haha Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Well, they have the Secret Sauce... but I cant tell you! You're from the Dark Side! Lol! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Freylekhman, Alex Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear LOL .. the low latency is true, can't argue here. WiMAX does carry a latency of ~3-4 times the frame duration. However, MIMO is not WiMAX specific. It's about spatial multiplexing and diversity coding, the concept is pretty much the same between WiFi, WiMAX, LTE or proprietary Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear And low latency to boot!!! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Aleksander, the Cambium networks System its not Wimax based, its proprietary RF on FPGA so no contains or Wimax protocol compromises... 90 Mbps will be available at the AP... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Freylekhman, Alex Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] ISP America
Chuck, go Bass fishing. You will really like that! We did that twice last time we were down there, it was a blast! I am not sure that Jim remembers it beings that he might have been in a state of oblivion. ---Original Message--- From: Chuck Hogg Date: 2/28/2012 11:19:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP America As in the 2 of us included or we're out? Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: The seats are filled. Jim From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] ISP America We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday 3/27. There are 2 open seats. If youre coming in early for the show and want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list. Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 x102 http://mywificoverage.com http://www.linktechs.net No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4837 - Release Date: 02/28/12 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless winking.gifimage0011.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] ISP America
Bass fishing is fun, I can do that around here though... Offshore fishing is something I have not yet done. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote: Chuck, go Bass fishing. You will really like that! We did that twice last time we were down there, it was a blast! I am not sure that Jim remembers it beings that he might have been in a state of oblivion. *---Original Message---* *From:* Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com *Date:* 2/28/2012 11:19:18 AM *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ISP America As in the 2 of us included or we're out? Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.netwrote: The seats are filled. ** ** Jim ** ** *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jim Patient *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM *To:* wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* [WISPA] ISP America ** ** We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday 3/27. There are 2 open seats. If you’re coming in early for the show and want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list. ** ** ** ** Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 x102 http://mywificoverage.com http://www.linktechs.net ** ** -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4837 - Release Date: 02/28/12* *** ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless image0011.pngwinking.gif___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: ISP America
They throw 5 pounders back on Lake Okeechobee... Regards, Jeff ImageStream Sales Manager 800-813-5123 x106 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [Bulk] Re: [WISPA] ISP America Bass fishing is fun, I can do that around here though... Offshore fishing is something I have not yet done. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote: Chuck, go Bass fishing. You will really like that! We did that twice last time we were down there, it was a blast! I am not sure that Jim remembers it beings that he might have been in a state of oblivion. ---Original Message--- From: Chuck Hogg mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com Date: 2/28/2012 11:19:18 AM To: WISPA General mailto:wireless@wispa.org List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP America As in the 2 of us included or we're out? Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: The seats are filled. Jim From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] ISP America We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday 3/27. There are 2 open seats. If you're coming in early for the show and want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list. Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 x102 tel:314-735-0270%20x102 http://mywificoverage.com http://mywificoverage.com/ http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4837 - Release Date: 02/28/12 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _ ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4837 - Release Date: 02/28/12 winking.gifimage0011.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] ISP America
Easy Doug, don't throw stones from your glass house. I remember an oblivion epidemic J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP America Bass fishing is fun, I can do that around here though... Offshore fishing is something I have not yet done. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote: Chuck, go Bass fishing. You will really like that! We did that twice last time we were down there, it was a blast! I am not sure that Jim remembers it beings that he might have been in a state of oblivion. ---Original Message--- From: Chuck Hogg mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com Date: 2/28/2012 11:19:18 AM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP America As in the 2 of us included or we're out? Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: The seats are filled. Jim From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:01 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] ISP America We chartered an offshore fishing trip out of Cape Canaveral on Tuesday 3/27. There are 2 open seats. If you're coming in early for the show and want to go fishing Tuesday, shoot me an email off-list. Jim Patient Link Technologies, Inc. 314-735-0270 x102 tel:314-735-0270%20x102 http://mywificoverage.com http://mywificoverage.com/ http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4837 - Release Date: 02/28/12 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4837 - Release Date: 02/28/12 image001.gifimage002.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
We've had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our rent every time we want to renegotiate equipment. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers Before and After. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them. I think we are right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2 omnis and a backhaul. I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote: Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications? Are they WISP friendly? Any estimates on costs? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 tel:%2B1%20906%20774%204847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
Are you looking for networking stuff, wireless stuff or both? I wrote one a while back that was mostly things like 'What is a subnet mask' or 'What's the difference between an IP address and a MAC address?' A lot of the time people would get them wrong (depending on skill level) but you could generally pick out the people who had a clue/had some ability by their thought process in trying to figure it out if they didn't know. On 2/28/2012 9:46 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote: I found a decent website for online quizzes. Just looking to see what kind of questions people would go with. *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:24 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz Jay maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless people for the job. Anyone know? Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 tel:317.831.3000%20ext%20211 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake Powercode.com (920) 351-1010 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
Ooo care to share??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote: Are you looking for networking stuff, wireless stuff or both? I wrote one a while back that was mostly things like 'What is a subnet mask' or 'What's the difference between an IP address and a MAC address?' A lot of the time people would get them wrong (depending on skill level) but you could generally pick out the people who had a clue/had some ability by their thought process in trying to figure it out if they didn't know. On 2/28/2012 9:46 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote: I found a decent website for online quizzes. Just looking to see what kind of questions people would go with. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz Jay maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless people for the job. Anyone know? Andy Trimmell Network Administrator atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 ext 211 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Simon Westlake Powercode.com (920) 351-1010 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
I added an antenna not too long ago, rent increased $100.
Regards,
Chuck
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:
We’ve had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our rent
every time we want to renegotiate equipment.
** **
*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
** **
Before and After.
Regards,
Chuck
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com
wrote:
Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?
*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them. I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2
omnis and a backhaul. I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it.
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications? Are they WISP
friendly? Any estimates on costs?
--
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http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
Yes, according to FCC rules, DFS2 must be used for new installs. But, if you have a grandfathered SITE, you are allowed to repair that site with a replacement radio, and accordingly its legal for the manufacturer to sell it for that purpose.. (I'd argue manufacturering laws might require keeping replacement parts available). As far as installing new CPE locations on pre-existing 5830 sectors? According to the rules its not allowed. But then again, how would anyone know what was pre-existing? The secondary market for legacy 5.3gear is still alive and well, because of that factor.. The reality is that no one cares, because the problem will naturally fix itself with time, and FCC has better things to do than harrass people for no reason. The fact is... putting up legacy 5.3G isn't going to hurt or interfere with anyone, if in small scale, and not worth anyone's time to determine what was or wasn't pre-existing, if no harm is being done. At the same time, no manufacturer is going to continue making new batches of product that has become obsolete. No US WISP is going to standardize on a legacy products anymore in large scale. The world is migrating to requiring faster speeds. The ROI for newly putting up old obsolete sectors, is not high. Most WISPs are going to want to put up new sites/sectors with gear that has some growth potential, and meet's today's broadband demands, to maximize their ROI. My point is, there really isn't a long term problem here. Allthough, in the short term, there may be some frustrating choices to make. All I know is, I'm gonna keep trying to get as much life out of my 5830s as long as I can, because they simply work headache free. (although admittedly, its getting harder where there is signficant colo costs, due to the lower CPE/AP ratiothat the market now requires) The good thing about the 5830, is that it is a legally certified radio of its day, so if operating at a grandfathered site for 5.3G, its got a sticker that says its legal.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
No question that Canopy stayed in the PtMP game longer, to go beyond the 10mb barrier, with advantage line and OFDM.. But to keep it real At a typical Trango Link Budget / Max distance, inserting a legacy Canopy w/ its inferior small antenna size and weaker link budget, Canopy would be lucky to get 5mbps, if it could even associate in our noise floor. How quickly its forgotten, the Canopy 8db AP integ antenna, and Trango's 14db-18db AP integ antenna, gaining Trango the winning link budget, even after considering the C/I. It brings back memories of the past.. The every day, CAnopy versus Trango thread :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yup, Its been 10 years since I used it in my wisp. When the next line came out it did no better then Atheros based radios in my environment and cost 5x as much to deploy. I do not have a business rich environment, and even if I did, they do not like $500 installs and $100/mo. This makes my primary target residential users. Ubnt delivers now, just not in 5.4-5.7 and I have pressure to expand as well as have room to move around a competitor who has 5.4 links now but wants to replace them with 5.8. There is no (or very little) 5.8 room due to how and where both of our towers sit. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
Whose your rep? I'm dealing with McNamara. I forgot too the $2500 engineering study Im required to pay to add anything. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers I added an antenna not too long ago, rent increased $100. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: We've had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our rent every time we want to renegotiate equipment. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers Before and After. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them. I think we are right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2 omnis and a backhaul. I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote: Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications? Are they WISP friendly? Any estimates on costs? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 tel:%2B1%20906%20774%204847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it was a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives.. (But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO) Axxelera Rep, Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct, that supports either MAtric A and B? When looking at Axxelera previously (prior to mimo), I noticed the 15Mhz channel size (Not quite the 20Mhz we desired most, but better than 10Mhz trends of Wimax or First generation OFDM Canopy) What channel size/width is Axxelera's MIMO products? Is the MIMO line still using true TDD constant carrier APs, or instead like the many other just using wifi chipsets that dont constantly transmit? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
Oshatz.
Regards,
Chuck
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:
Whose your rep? I’m dealing with McNamara.
** **
I forgot too the $2500 engineering study Im required to pay to add
anything.
** **
*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:22 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
** **
I added an antenna not too long ago, rent increased $100.
Regards,
Chuck
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com
wrote:
We’ve had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our rent
every time we want to renegotiate equipment.
*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
Before and After.
Regards,
Chuck
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com
wrote:
Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant?
*From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them. I think we are
right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2
omnis and a backhaul. I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it.
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications? Are they WISP
friendly? Any estimates on costs?
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Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
A more reasonable comparison would be a trango unit vs a Canopy with Lens or Stinger Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear No question that Canopy stayed in the PtMP game longer, to go beyond the 10mb barrier, with advantage line and OFDM.. But to keep it real At a typical Trango Link Budget / Max distance, inserting a legacy Canopy w/ its inferior small antenna size and weaker link budget, Canopy would be lucky to get 5mbps, if it could even associate in our noise floor. How quickly its forgotten, the Canopy 8db AP integ antenna, and Trango's 14db-18db AP integ antenna, gaining Trango the winning link budget, even after considering the C/I. It brings back memories of the past.. The every day, CAnopy versus Trango thread :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yup, Its been 10 years since I used it in my wisp. When the next line came out it did no better then Atheros based radios in my environment and cost 5x as much to deploy. I do not have a business rich environment, and even if I did, they do not like $500 installs and $100/mo. This makes my primary target residential users. Ubnt delivers now, just not in 5.4-5.7 and I have pressure to expand as well as have room to move around a competitor who has 5.4 links now but wants to replace them with 5.8. There is no (or very little) 5.8 room due to how and where both of our towers sit. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers
Exactly! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers Oshatz. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Whose your rep? I'm dealing with McNamara. I forgot too the $2500 engineering study Im required to pay to add anything. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers I added an antenna not too long ago, rent increased $100. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: We've had nothing but issues with our rep. He wants to quadruple our rent every time we want to renegotiate equipment. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers Before and After. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Was it SBA before or after you became a tenant? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SBA Towers I have towers with SBA and have had no issues with them. I think we are right below Nextel on a 300' self supporter and we pay about $400/mth for 2 omnis and a backhaul. I have 100+ customers on this site, so it's worth it. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote: Has anyone leased space from SBA Communications? Are they WISP friendly? Any estimates on costs? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 tel:%2B1%20906%20774%204847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport
www.airspaceusa.com is another good consulting firm that can do a study for around $200. If this is listed as an FAA public airport definitely do a study. If it is not in their database as a public strip but rather a private one, you do not have to file. You can certainly do a quick check on the FCC site tool but that is going to be conservative. Depending on how you file with the FAA and any surveyor certifications, the FAA office conducting the study will add up to an additional 50ft height margin of error to see if it violates any airspace approach patterns for that strip or any others nearby. If you submit a 2C certification letter they still add 20ft height, a 1A certification letter only adds 3ft height margin of error by the FAA office. For a site that close to an affected strip, that extra 47 feet of allowable height can make a big difference. These are reasons why it's good to pay a consultant to advise you on these points. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower height near airport There is a consultant out there, Ken Patterson ( http://airspace-ken.com/ ) that I utilized back when I worked for Sprint and several consulting companies. I think his fee to perform a full blown air space safety analysis on a proposed new tower is like $350 and probably worth every penny. The last thing you want is to have an improper filing and then cause some kind of air space accident because your tower is not marked or lit properly, or you missed something in the filing. That could ruin lives including your own. Cameron On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/AsrSearch/towairSearch.jsp will give you a quick read on the need for an FAA. http://wireless.fcc.gov/outreach/index.htm?job=tower_notification will get you started on a NEPA and SHPA - but using it is voluntary. The NEPA and SHPA I would not build a new tower without having done. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/portal.jsp Will allow you file online (at no cost) for your FAA. Personally, it only takes 10 minutes to do the FAA, I would do it just to be safe. If you do, fill out all the frequencies listed as being in use. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Jay DeBoer jdeb...@summitdigital.us To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:37 AM Subject: [WISPA] tower height near airport I've got a buisness that wants me to setup a ptp link for them I did the path study and need to be about 50' in the air to get line of site clearance. The problem is the road right next to them (road is about 200 yards east and the runway starts about 400 yards north.) dead-ends into a grass run-way for the airport (small town). and its also prettly close to perpendicular from the main run-way thats probably around 1000 yards away. I'm assuming it would have to be permitted through FAA and all the wonderful paperwork that way. I don't think zoning will be an issue but I'm more concerned about the tower height in relation to the airport. -- Jay DeBoer Chief Engineer Summit Digital Holdings, Inc. 100 N Roland St, Suite B McBain, MI 49657 Office: 231-825-2500 Direct: 231-908-0033 Fax: 231-908-0039 jdeb...@summitdigital.us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
The every day, CAnopy versus Trango thread :-) First it was the Proxim vs. Sunstream (aka Trango) threads with Allen M. Winner = Sunstream (aka Trango) Second it was Alvarion vs. Trango threads with Patrick L. Winner = Trango Third it was Canopy vs. Trango threads.I forget the huge Canopy proponent. Winner = draw Trango was a better product, but Canopy PtMP is still here! I'm just glad Trango finally listened to some of their clients and moved away from the cheaper is better/race to the bottom product and moved into the licensed arena! Now Trango needs to stop trying to compete with RadioWaves and focus on continuing to build better/faster licensed radios. We too still have many Trango radios in the air plugging along very nicely. We only recently pulled the last of the Sunstream radios offline. I think a couple of those have earned a home in our little hardware archive collection and be spared from the landfill. Lol Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear No question that Canopy stayed in the PtMP game longer, to go beyond the 10mb barrier, with advantage line and OFDM.. But to keep it real At a typical Trango Link Budget / Max distance, inserting a legacy Canopy w/ its inferior small antenna size and weaker link budget, Canopy would be lucky to get 5mbps, if it could even associate in our noise floor. How quickly its forgotten, the Canopy 8db AP integ antenna, and Trango's 14db-18db AP integ antenna, gaining Trango the winning link budget, even after considering the C/I. It brings back memories of the past.. The every day, CAnopy versus Trango thread :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yup, Its been 10 years since I used it in my wisp. When the next line came out it did no better then Atheros based radios in my environment and cost 5x as much to deploy. I do not have a business rich environment, and even if I did, they do not like $500 installs and $100/mo. This makes my primary target residential users. Ubnt delivers now, just not in 5.4-5.7 and I have pressure to expand as well as have room to move around a competitor who has 5.4 links now but wants to replace them with 5.8. There is no (or very little) 5.8 room due to how and where both of our towers sit. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
Tom, The MIMO comment made earlier was in reference to the 90mbps as a roadmap feature for Canopy. As far as AXX, both of the WiMAX lines are not MIMO. The system is built based on the SEQUANS 802.16d chipset so customers get all of the bells and whistles as well as powerful dual-core processed as a part of the package. Supported channels of operation are 5/10/15MHz, where 15MHz yields 47mbps. Please keep in mind that once you enable DFS we do take a slight hit on the throughput from 47 to 43mbps. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netmailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:46:47 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it was a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives.. (But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO) Axxelera Rep, Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct, that supports either MAtric A and B? When looking at Axxelera previously (prior to mimo), I noticed the 15Mhz channel size (Not quite the 20Mhz we desired most, but better than 10Mhz trends of Wimax or First generation OFDM Canopy) What channel size/width is Axxelera's MIMO products? Is the MIMO line still using true TDD constant carrier APs, or instead like the many other just using wifi chipsets that dont constantly transmit? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
This are air rates our real troughput? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com wrote: Tom, The MIMO comment made earlier was in reference to the 90mbps as a roadmap feature for Canopy. As far as AXX, both of the WiMAX lines are not MIMO. The system is built based on the SEQUANS 802.16d chipset so customers get all of the bells and whistles as well as powerful dual-core processed as a part of the package. Supported channels of operation are 5/10/15MHz, where 15MHz yields 47mbps. Please keep in mind that once you enable DFS we do take a slight hit on the throughput from 47 to 43mbps. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.comhttp://www.axxcelera.com From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netmailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:46:47 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it was a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives.. (But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO) Axxelera Rep, Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct, that supports either MAtric A and B? When looking at Axxelera previously (prior to mimo), I noticed the 15Mhz channel size (Not quite the 20Mhz we desired most, but better than 10Mhz trends of Wimax or First generation OFDM Canopy) What channel size/width is Axxelera's MIMO products? Is the MIMO line still using true TDD constant carrier APs, or instead like the many other just using wifi chipsets that dont constantly transmit? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.comhttp://www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
These are real aggregate throughput numbers based on UDP packets. Since equipment is a layer 2 bridge, TCP numbers will be less and will vary as a result of framesize and latency. In regards to the over the air rates, to be completely honest, I'm not sure what they are since we never talk about them nor publish, guess would be ~20% higher Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:43:11 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear This are air rates our real troughput? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com wrote: Tom, The MIMO comment made earlier was in reference to the 90mbps as a roadmap feature for Canopy. As far as AXX, both of the WiMAX lines are not MIMO. The system is built based on the SEQUANS 802.16d chipset so customers get all of the bells and whistles as well as powerful dual-core processed as a part of the package. Supported channels of operation are 5/10/15MHz, where 15MHz yields 47mbps. Please keep in mind that once you enable DFS we do take a slight hit on the throughput from 47 to 43mbps. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.comhttp://www.axxcelera.com From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netmailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:46:47 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it was a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives.. (But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO) Axxelera Rep, Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct, that supports either MAtric A and B? When looking at Axxelera previously (prior to mimo), I noticed the 15Mhz channel size (Not quite the 20Mhz we desired most, but better than 10Mhz trends of Wimax or First generation OFDM Canopy) What channel size/width is Axxelera's MIMO products? Is the MIMO line still using true TDD constant carrier APs, or instead like the many other just using wifi chipsets that dont constantly transmit? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.comhttp://www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
I think you mean lower? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 28, 2012 4:59 PM, Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.com wrote: These are real aggregate throughput numbers based on UDP packets. Since equipment is a layer 2 bridge, TCP numbers will be less and will vary as a result of framesize and latency. In regards to the over the air rates, to be completely honest, I'm not sure what they are since we never talk about them nor publish, guess would be ~20% higher Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless *a Moseley Company* P: (804) 864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:43:11 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear This are air rates our real troughput? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.com wrote: Tom, The MIMO comment made earlier was in reference to the 90mbps as a roadmap feature for Canopy. As far as AXX, both of the WiMAX lines are not MIMO. The system is built based on the SEQUANS 802.16d chipset so customers get all of the bells and whistles as well as powerful dual-core processed as a part of the package. Supported channels of operation are 5/10/15MHz, where 15MHz yields 47mbps. Please keep in mind that once you enable DFS we do take a slight hit on the throughput from 47 to 43mbps. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless *a Moseley Company* P: (804) 864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:46:47 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it was a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives.. (But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO) Axxelera Rep, Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct, that supports either MAtric A and B? When looking at Axxelera previously (prior to mimo), I noticed the 15Mhz channel size (Not quite the 20Mhz we desired most, but better than 10Mhz trends of Wimax or First generation OFDM Canopy) What channel size/width is Axxelera's MIMO products? Is the MIMO line still using true TDD constant carrier APs, or instead like the many other just using wifi chipsets that dont constantly transmit? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE and 3~4mbit. I am sure that has came down since my first Canopy pack back in the pre-nehalm(sp) days. Looking at Axxcelera. Might be in the same vein and Canopy. Anyone with experience that wants to share? I do not want to just buy a stop gap product that will work till Ubnt get their stuff ready. This is going to be direction we head in once we find gear. Jeromie ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
Usually, over the air includes overhead, as example gross 54mbps would look like net 36mbps Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:03:41 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear I think you mean lower? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 28, 2012 4:59 PM, Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com wrote: These are real aggregate throughput numbers based on UDP packets. Since equipment is a layer 2 bridge, TCP numbers will be less and will vary as a result of framesize and latency. In regards to the over the air rates, to be completely honest, I'm not sure what they are since we never talk about them nor publish, guess would be ~20% higher Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125tel:%28804%29%20864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192tel:%28440%29%20220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.comhttp://www.axxcelera.com From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:43:11 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear This are air rates our real troughput? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com wrote: Tom, The MIMO comment made earlier was in reference to the 90mbps as a roadmap feature for Canopy. As far as AXX, both of the WiMAX lines are not MIMO. The system is built based on the SEQUANS 802.16d chipset so customers get all of the bells and whistles as well as powerful dual-core processed as a part of the package. Supported channels of operation are 5/10/15MHz, where 15MHz yields 47mbps. Please keep in mind that once you enable DFS we do take a slight hit on the throughput from 47 to 43mbps. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125tel:%28804%29%20864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192tel:%28440%29%20220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.comhttp://www.axxcelera.com From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netmailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:46:47 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it was a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives.. (But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO) Axxelera Rep, Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct, that supports either MAtric A and B? When looking at Axxelera previously (prior to mimo), I noticed the 15Mhz channel size (Not quite the 20Mhz we desired most, but better than 10Mhz trends of Wimax or First generation OFDM Canopy) What channel size/width is Axxelera's MIMO products? Is the MIMO line still using true TDD constant carrier APs, or instead like the many other just using wifi chipsets that dont constantly transmit? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125tel:%28804%29%20864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192tel:%28440%29%20220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.commailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.comhttp://www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143 -Original Message- From:
Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear
The OTA is 20% higher. I thought you were talking about TCP. Misunderstanding. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.com wrote: Usually, over the air includes overhead, as example gross 54mbps would look like net 36mbps Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:03:41 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear I think you mean lower? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 28, 2012 4:59 PM, Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.com wrote: These are real aggregate throughput numbers based on UDP packets. Since equipment is a layer 2 bridge, TCP numbers will be less and will vary as a result of framesize and latency. In regards to the over the air rates, to be completely honest, I'm not sure what they are since we never talk about them nor publish, guess would be ~20% higher Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:43:11 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear This are air rates our real troughput? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.com wrote: Tom, The MIMO comment made earlier was in reference to the 90mbps as a roadmap feature for Canopy. As far as AXX, both of the WiMAX lines are not MIMO. The system is built based on the SEQUANS 802.16d chipset so customers get all of the bells and whistles as well as powerful dual-core processed as a part of the package. Supported channels of operation are 5/10/15MHz, where 15MHz yields 47mbps. Please keep in mind that once you enable DFS we do take a slight hit on the throughput from 47 to 43mbps. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company P: (804) 864-4125 M: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:46:47 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear We did an evaluation of Axxelera a number of years back, and we felt it was a pretty hot product, and more affordable than some of the alternatives.. (But then Ubiquiti came out with Dirt cheap MIMO) Axxelera Rep, Are you saying Axxelera now has a MIMO prioduct, that supports either MAtric A and B? When looking at Axxelera previously (prior to mimo), I noticed the 15Mhz channel size (Not quite the 20Mhz we desired most, but better than 10Mhz trends of Wimax or First generation OFDM Canopy) What channel size/width is Axxelera's MIMO products? Is the MIMO line still using true TDD constant carrier APs, or instead like the many other just using wifi chipsets that dont constantly transmit? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Freylekhman, Alex afreylekh...@axxcelera.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Gino, In regards to the 90mbps - 2x2 mimo can either be set as matrix A or B, there is a decision to be made if you go after distance or capacity. Aleksander Freylekhman Sales Director, North America Axxcelera Broadband Wireless a Moseley Company p: (804) 864-4125 m: (440) 220-2192 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com www.axxcelera.com -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear Yikes, seem ages you haven't looked at Canopy, Classic Aps do 14 Mbps, new ones 45 Mbps, next one (Q2 2012) 90 Mbps Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DFS2 gear A contact at the FCC told me years ago that it meant you can not do /new/ installs of the old DFS gear. Anyone have a FCC rep saying something different? Why not Canopy? $2000 AP's, $400 CPE
Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
I just dug for it, doesn't look like I kept it, sorry - it's probably languishing in a file cabinet in Milwaukee. I wrote it for TWC when I worked there since the HR interviews were generally things like 'Why do you like sunshine?' and 'What is your favorite color of hair?' so they kept hiring people who had 'good' resumes but zero actual knowledge. The funny thing there was that the kind of resumes I throw in the garbage here (skills: Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Adobe Acrobat, Notepad, Calculator, Pacman, Windows Start Menu, JPEG, CPU, Keyboard/Mouse, etc) got through most of the screening there because they could check off 'Knows Microsoft Word, knows Pacman' and pass it on as a stellar resume. The guys who wrote things like 'Built a flux capacitor out of spare motherboards, constructed a satellite dish out of cardboard to watch Iranian TV, write assembly in the bathroom' never made it through because they didn't know Microsoft Word. So, I had to come up with something to screen out the first crowd and make sure the second were what they said they were. The stuff I said below was the gist of it, it was a mix of specific knowledge (e.g. what is a subnet mask) and situation based stuff (I can't remember the harder parts but the simpler stuff was things like 'Customer X has a router, we are giving them a public IP of 1.2.3.4, he has a web server behind the router that is set to 192.168.10.2. He can get to the server inside his network if he opens 192.168.10.2 in a web browser but nobody going to 1.2.3.4 can see the web page. Why?') If they made it through the first couple of pages, I had a harder sheet that I honestly don't remember much of but it was probably a mix to see where their skills lay (some routing protocol questions, probably some protocol specific/packet capturing type stuff for the troubleshooting scenarios, etc) along with some vendor specific stuff (how do you do X in a Cisco since we were a 100% Cisco shop). If they didn't make it through the first page, I just smiled, said thanks and everyone had an easier day. It worked pretty well apart from the fact that already nervous people would often have a meltdown if they flunked the first few questions. It was also a good way to know what peoples weak spots were if you did end up hiring them (e.g. they failed all the Cisco questions or they knew nothing about OSPF) but it was mostly just to get a good baseline on whether or not someone could do the job. Nowadays I end up hiring more based on aptitude, personality and desire to learn than anything else, knowledge isn't everything. Granted, if you are hiring a programmer, they need a certain level of knowledge but I'd rather have someone who has 75% of the knowledge and 150% of the attitude than vice versa. Hard thing to pick out a lot of the time though. I'm just waiting for someone to invent a robot that can write good code. When we hire for Powercode, I normally give people a couple of functions to write (e.g. write a recursive function that reverses a string and returns it) and see how they come to a conclusion and do some design exercises with them (lately we've been doing one based around building online card games.) Same kind of idea.. you might have a Bachelors in Software Development but if you can't write a recursive function to reverse a string, I don't really care. The TL;DR of this essay is that I hate hiring, it's a pain in the ass. On 2/28/2012 1:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Ooo care to share??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Simon Westlakesi...@powercode.com wrote: Are you looking for networking stuff, wireless stuff or both? I wrote one a while back that was mostly things like 'What is a subnet mask' or 'What's the difference between an IP address and a MAC address?' A lot of the time people would get them wrong (depending on skill level) but you could generally pick out the people who had a clue/had some ability by their thought process in trying to figure it out if they didn't know. On 2/28/2012 9:46 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote: I found a decent website for online quizzes. Just looking to see what kind of questions people would go with. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz Jay maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM, Andy Trimmellatrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: I know a few months back someone was very happy with their online quiz they had for new employees to take before interviewing them. They got it from another WISP and was looking for the same thing. Looking to hire someone else and need some kind of quiz to weed out the useless
Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
I agree on who to hire, but I don't have the brain to come up with those questions to weed out the first set! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote: I just dug for it, doesn't look like I kept it, sorry - it's probably languishing in a file cabinet in Milwaukee. I wrote it for TWC when I worked there since the HR interviews were generally things like 'Why do you like sunshine?' and 'What is your favorite color of hair?' so they kept hiring people who had 'good' resumes but zero actual knowledge. The funny thing there was that the kind of resumes I throw in the garbage here (skills: Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Adobe Acrobat, Notepad, Calculator, Pacman, Windows Start Menu, JPEG, CPU, Keyboard/Mouse, etc) got through most of the screening there because they could check off 'Knows Microsoft Word, knows Pacman' and pass it on as a stellar resume. The guys who wrote things like 'Built a flux capacitor out of spare motherboards, constructed a satellite dish out of cardboard to watch Iranian TV, write assembly in the bathroom' never made it through because they didn't know Microsoft Word. So, I had to come up with something to screen out the first crowd and make sure the second were what they said they were. The stuff I said below was the gist of it, it was a mix of specific knowledge (e.g. what is a subnet mask) and situation based stuff (I can't remember the harder parts but the simpler stuff was things like 'Customer X has a router, we are giving them a public IP of 1.2.3.4, he has a web server behind the router that is set to 192.168.10.2. He can get to the server inside his network if he opens 192.168.10.2 in a web browser but nobody going to 1.2.3.4 can see the web page. Why?') If they made it through the first couple of pages, I had a harder sheet that I honestly don't remember much of but it was probably a mix to see where their skills lay (some routing protocol questions, probably some protocol specific/packet capturing type stuff for the troubleshooting scenarios, etc) along with some vendor specific stuff (how do you do X in a Cisco since we were a 100% Cisco shop). If they didn't make it through the first page, I just smiled, said thanks and everyone had an easier day. It worked pretty well apart from the fact that already nervous people would often have a meltdown if they flunked the first few questions. It was also a good way to know what peoples weak spots were if you did end up hiring them (e.g. they failed all the Cisco questions or they knew nothing about OSPF) but it was mostly just to get a good baseline on whether or not someone could do the job. Nowadays I end up hiring more based on aptitude, personality and desire to learn than anything else, knowledge isn't everything. Granted, if you are hiring a programmer, they need a certain level of knowledge but I'd rather have someone who has 75% of the knowledge and 150% of the attitude than vice versa. Hard thing to pick out a lot of the time though. I'm just waiting for someone to invent a robot that can write good code. When we hire for Powercode, I normally give people a couple of functions to write (e.g. write a recursive function that reverses a string and returns it) and see how they come to a conclusion and do some design exercises with them (lately we've been doing one based around building online card games.) Same kind of idea.. you might have a Bachelors in Software Development but if you can't write a recursive function to reverse a string, I don't really care. The TL;DR of this essay is that I hate hiring, it's a pain in the ass. On 2/28/2012 1:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Ooo care to share??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Simon Westlakesi...@powercode.com wrote: Are you looking for networking stuff, wireless stuff or both? I wrote one a while back that was mostly things like 'What is a subnet mask' or 'What's the difference between an IP address and a MAC address?' A lot of the time people would get them wrong (depending on skill level) but you could generally pick out the people who had a clue/had some ability by their thought process in trying to figure it out if they didn't know. On 2/28/2012 9:46 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote: I found a decent website for online quizzes. Just looking to see what kind of questions people would go with. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz Jay maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM, Andy Trimmellatrimm...@precisionds.com
[WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters
Hi All, I have a question as to how other operators are handling POE radio links and high power FM transmitters. We often see things like a radio will run errors or drop to 10mbps instead of 100mbps until we find a good position on the tower that its happy with. Once its happy we never have an issue again. We've tried earthing, not earthing, STP, UTP. Nothing seems to definitively solve the issue. Does anyone have any advice they'd like to share? It would be muchly appreciated. Thanks Tim ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters
Far as I know it requires fiber and DC power to be reliable. Haven't seen any other solutions with many +1s Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 28, 2012 9:54 PM, Tim Warnock tim...@timoid.org wrote: Hi All, I have a question as to how other operators are handling POE radio links and high power FM transmitters. We often see things like a radio will run errors or drop to 10mbps instead of 100mbps until we find a good position on the tower that its happy with. Once its happy we never have an issue again. We've tried earthing, not earthing, STP, UTP. Nothing seems to definitively solve the issue. Does anyone have any advice they'd like to share? It would be muchly appreciated. Thanks Tim ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters
Tim, I have had 100% success by using a good quality shielded cable and following a strict bonding regiment. Bonding the antenna, radio, mast and cable to the tower at the top is imperative, as is the same process at the bottom. It's also important that the tower be bonded and that the bond is common with that in the equipment room. Make sure the inside end of the cable is bonded as well. In other words, there should be no difference in potential between the ground in the equipment room, the tower or your equipment on the tower. You must carry that bonding through to the rack and equipment you place in the room as well. Also, be sure to use grounded cable on jumpers. And the real trick is putting ferrite beads on both ends of the POE cable. I had a site exhibiting between 50 and 70 percent packet loss between the topside radio and the router in the room when initially installed. The installer never noticed there were two FM stations on the tower ( 55Kw and 30Kw ). We even swapped radio equipment twice because he insisted there were no transmitters in close proximity. Once we discovered the FM stations he did as I described above and we went immediately to 0% packet loss from the router. Joe -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Warnock Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] ethernet and towers with FM transmitters Hi All, I have a question as to how other operators are handling POE radio links and high power FM transmitters. We often see things like a radio will run errors or drop to 10mbps instead of 100mbps until we find a good position on the tower that its happy with. Once its happy we never have an issue again. We've tried earthing, not earthing, STP, UTP. Nothing seems to definitively solve the issue. Does anyone have any advice they'd like to share? It would be muchly appreciated. Thanks Tim ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz
Well, I think some of the ones I mentioned are alright. It depends if you're hiring tech support or a network engineer but for mid-level tech support/pseudo engineer type role I'd ask things like: What is a subnet mask? If they got that one.. what is a /29 subnet mask? If I told you a subnet was 192.168.10.0/25, what is the network and broadcast IP? Name one usable IP in this range. Usually lets you know if they understand subnetting. I've had people break out pencil and paper and do it binary style - at least they know how but lets you know they learned it in a book, they don't do it regularly. Not good or bad just useful info. The NAT/port forwarding one I mentioned earlier I always found useful, lets you know how their brain works when troubleshooting. You could probably expand this to wireless (you put up an access point, connected user has 4 bars, next day they have 2 bars, how would you start troubleshooting?) I always liked the situational ones because anyone can memorize how to subnet but what you really want is someone with a good logical brain for solving problems. I used to ask some about ports (e.g. what port does SMTP run on, what protocol typically runs on port 110), I'd ask things like 'how do you see the status of all OSPF neighbors in a Cisco router', maybe not so important if you don't use Cisco gear but you can ask general questions in that case (what does cost do in an OSPF, for example.) How would you identify/troubleshoot a speed/duplex problem on an Ethernet interface.. describe how you'd make an Ethernet cable (bonus points if they know T-568A and B but who cares, really, it's more about if they know how and they can tell you.. double bonus if they end with 'and then I get out my tester and make sure the cable is good before I plug it in').. what is the difference between single and multimode fiber.. Really, I just used to think about the things I used to have to deal with on a daily basis and tried to construct scenarios out of them. If I couldn't, I'd just ask a specific question. I will say, the scenario type questions are by far the best. Someone who has done their A+ might memorize a bunch of data but they can't always put it into practice. So, I'd just lay out 10 problems you've had to solve or try to brainstorm a few and write them down from simplest to hardest. If they can't answer the first 2-3, you're probably done. The NAT one was a good opener (web server on private IP, why can't external access it, etc), I'd do some stuff like computer X is plugged into a switch with an IP of 192.168.10.5, subnet mask 255.255.255.128, why can't he ping 192.168.10.253 255.255.255.128? Throw a bunch of questions in the middle like 'what's your favorite Android 'phone' or 'what video game did you last play' to keep them loose and not too stressed out. I used to have to do this a lot and I ended up winging it at the end a lot of the time. Once you've done 20-30 interviews, you can figure out someone's technical ability pretty quickly. The hard part is figuring out if they are going to be a giant pain in the ass in 3 months. From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:18 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] New employee quiz I agree on who to hire, but I don't have the brain to come up with those questions to weed out the first set! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote: I just dug for it, doesn't look like I kept it, sorry - it's probably languishing in a file cabinet in Milwaukee. I wrote it for TWC when I worked there since the HR interviews were generally things like 'Why do you like sunshine?' and 'What is your favorite color of hair?' so they kept hiring people who had 'good' resumes but zero actual knowledge. The funny thing there was that the kind of resumes I throw in the garbage here (skills: Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Adobe Acrobat, Notepad, Calculator, Pacman, Windows Start Menu, JPEG, CPU, Keyboard/Mouse, etc) got through most of the screening there because they could check off 'Knows Microsoft Word, knows Pacman' and pass it on as a stellar resume. The guys who wrote things like 'Built a flux capacitor out of spare motherboards, constructed a satellite dish out of cardboard to watch Iranian TV, write assembly in the bathroom' never made it through because they didn't know Microsoft Word. So, I had to come up with something to screen out the first crowd and make sure the second were what they said they were. The stuff I said below was the gist of it, it was a mix of specific knowledge (e.g. what is a subnet mask) and situation based stuff (I can't remember the harder parts but the simpler stuff was things like 'Customer X
