Re: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
It's not a new agency. It's still the same F agency that is catering to the political payback agenda, that the current administration sold out the competitive market to. The wireline service providers have been fighting this for quite some time now. The two largest wireline RBOC's control a demanding market share of wireless assets. You think they are going let the WISP's eat into it? Just follow the money... USA Today reports that telecom companies spent at least $78 million over the past two years to try to influence state officials who were considering new rules of competition, according to a report by the Center for Public Integrity, a non-partisan watchdog group. http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2005-09-28-telecoms-spending_x.htm Frank Muto Co-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! > Thanks for helping make our voices heard. The "new" administration at > the FCC seems to not know that WISPs exist so maybe Kevin Martin will > know now when his email server fills with requests from us to act on > their own ruling that they are ignoring right now. > Thanks guys! > Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
YEOWZA Brian, there was quite a few replies from dslreports. A lot of comments were posted, I skimmed through quite a few. Also Intel backs the unlicensed use of tv whitespace for wisps to use according to their comment. George Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Still getting hits here too! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14467526 John Scrivner wrote: Thanks for helping make our voices heard. The "new" administration at the FCC seems to not know that WISPs exist so maybe Kevin Martin will know now when his email server fills with requests from us to act on their own ruling that they are ignoring right now. Thanks guys! Scriv George wrote: Done! And I feel good about doing this. Thanks John for the heads up and making it easy to do. George The FCC Acknowledges Receipt of Comments From … George Rogato …and Thank You for Your Comments Your Confirmation Number is: '2005929364979 ' Date Received: Sep 29 2005 Docket: 04-186 Number of Files Transmitted: 1 John Scrivner wrote: GO RIGHT NOW TO: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wisp wanted in 07302 jersey -from EVDO Coverage
Did you file with the FCC today Robert? George Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: please contact jonathan jloor at topratetech .com if anyone can deliver to 07302 thanks! YOU are welcome to contact my cleint directly -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet EVDO Advisor http://evdo-coverage.blogspot.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 102 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
Your Confirmation Number is: '2005929275258 ' Date Received: Sep 29 2005 Docket: 04-186 Number of Files Transmitted:1 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of info Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:43 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: Lance Jahnke Subject: RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! Importance: High Done! Mark Williams 888.275.5159 | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.defactowireless.com Instant Messenger Accounts: AIM:mwRacerX2k4 | ICQ:8356114 | YIM:webdoctor | MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | SKYPE: defactomark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Herrmann Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! Done! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:01 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! If you are on other lists please forward this message to every unlicensed list you know of so we get 100% of this industry to do this PLEASE! This will take about 5 minutes of your time and it may make history for our industry. The FCC has had an open Notice of Proposed Rulemaking" called 04-186 - Unlicensed Operation in the TV Broadcast Bands. They have tried to stall this proceeding out because the NAB - National Association of Broadcasters does not want anyone to use TV channels but them. In fact the NAB has even stooped to putting out propaganda in the form of a video docu-drama portrayal of a Grandma who cannot watch TV because the evil unlicensed operators were messing up her TV reception with their demonic unlicensed broadband operations (ok I embellished a bit). Here is the deal. If we lose this fight it is not going to be over a lame video showing a grandma losing her TV stations from our efforts. I am gonna kick some NAB ass before I let that happen. GO RIGHT NOW TO: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi A from will appear magically in your web browser. Fill in the blanks with your contact information. Use the guide below for specific lines to help you with items you may not know how to fill in correctly. 1) Where it says "Proceeding" type in 04-186 2) For the "Mail Correspondence to" line click on "Name". 4) and 5) Leave Blank 11) Check "Late Filed" check box. 12) Select the drop down for "Statement for the Record" The other lines not listed above are things like your name which I will assume you guys have covered. :-) Then type your comments about why you need those TV channels for broadband. Give good reasons and do not argue with the FCC. Just tell them why you need the channels. Use good grammar, use correct spelling, be as good a writer as you can even if it is only one sentence. I want to see 500 comments from the WISP industry on this NPRM over the next 5 days. Let's bury them in so many comments in support of this NPRM that the FCC cannot deny us this ruling. Here are some thoughts that may help motivate you to do this right now: How would you like to serve up broadband that operates in 100% of the proposed theoretical coverage area around your AP with no significant line of sight issues? How would you like to use common off the shelf cable modem type devices with minor modifications as CPE for these new magical APs? Then pay attention and do what I ask right now and do not try to micro-manage this effort. Just speak up right now! Today! Not tomorrow! We need solidarity on this one. Let's get it right and get the message out loud and clear right now. Be prepared to hear negative comments about what I am proposing from WiMAX interests because they do not support all of what I am asking. We are not WiMAX radio builders. We are WISPs and we need TV channels right away before Uncle Sam pays billions to the RBOCs to circumvent what we are doing. This is the FCC plan if you do not act fast. The 120 day VOIP 911 order was a clear message that WISPs are not going to have a level playing field in this current FCC administration in many cases. It is time for us to demand what we need to build our industry. Auctioning off the TV channels is not acceptable to us. The FCC needs to hear it many many times if we are to have a chance at this effort. We need those TV channels offered up under the FCC 04-186 NPRM. Support it and let the FCC know why you support it. Tell them about your people who cannot get signal. Tell them about the unacceptable number of towers it takes to cover a few blocks in a heavily treed area using higher frequencies. Tell them how we could maintain higher density modulation schemes without fallback if the signal to noise ratios were more stable as we will have with TV channels. Tell them how spectrum is getting tight becau
Re: [WISPA] shipping info for Mac D.
Tim, Hit me off list and send me the bill. Brian Mac Dearman wrote: Tim Wolfe wrote: Hey Mac, the package is on the way. Since I don't have the email address to send tracking, here it is(now everybody can track it!!) FedEx: 057274810085245 inclosed in the package is: 10-3ft jumpers-Times Microwave LMR400 and connectors 10 rolls of electrical tape(Not Scotch 33, but good enough for taping cables to towers etc.) 1 package of 10 inch zip ties(black UV resistant) There will be "care packages" to follow, I am just waiting on connectors so I can make both Mac AND Johnny O' happy!!, Tim Tim, I appreciate u more than you know. I have a little money left and I will pay for the connectors and cable - - - - - - but I am gonna take advantage of the labor :) Thanks for the time, effort and energy - - - - you have been a great help -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
Still getting hits here too! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14467526 John Scrivner wrote: Thanks for helping make our voices heard. The "new" administration at the FCC seems to not know that WISPs exist so maybe Kevin Martin will know now when his email server fills with requests from us to act on their own ruling that they are ignoring right now. Thanks guys! Scriv George wrote: Done! And I feel good about doing this. Thanks John for the heads up and making it easy to do. George The FCC Acknowledges Receipt of Comments From … George Rogato …and Thank You for Your Comments Your Confirmation Number is: '2005929364979 ' Date Received: Sep 29 2005 Docket: 04-186 Number of Files Transmitted: 1 John Scrivner wrote: GO RIGHT NOW TO: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
Thanks for helping make our voices heard. The "new" administration at the FCC seems to not know that WISPs exist so maybe Kevin Martin will know now when his email server fills with requests from us to act on their own ruling that they are ignoring right now. Thanks guys! Scriv George wrote: Done! And I feel good about doing this. Thanks John for the heads up and making it easy to do. George The FCC Acknowledges Receipt of Comments From … George Rogato …and Thank You for Your Comments Your Confirmation Number is: '2005929364979 ' Date Received: Sep 29 2005 Docket: 04-186 Number of Files Transmitted: 1 John Scrivner wrote: GO RIGHT NOW TO: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] shipping info for Mac D.
Tim Wolfe wrote: Hey Mac, the package is on the way. Since I don't have the email address to send tracking, here it is(now everybody can track it!!) FedEx: 057274810085245 inclosed in the package is: 10-3ft jumpers-Times Microwave LMR400 and connectors 10 rolls of electrical tape(Not Scotch 33, but good enough for taping cables to towers etc.) 1 package of 10 inch zip ties(black UV resistant) There will be "care packages" to follow, I am just waiting on connectors so I can make both Mac AND Johnny O' happy!!, Tim Tim, I appreciate u more than you know. I have a little money left and I will pay for the connectors and cable - - - - - - but I am gonna take advantage of the labor :) Thanks for the time, effort and energy - - - - you have been a great help -- Mac Dearman www.inetsouth.com "High Speed Internet for the South" 318-728-8600 318-450-4101 NOC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
-Original Message- To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! FCC Acknowledges Receipt of Comments From.and Thank You for Your Comments Donald L. Renner Your Confirmation Number is: '2005929853326 ' Date Received: Sep 29 2005 Docket: 04-186 The following is the comments for the record. Our company is a new Wireless ISP in Southern Indiana serving low density town and rural non-served and underserved areas. The need for high-speed broadband in rural areas is critical. Non-served areas will lose the younger population, because they cannot access the Internet and the services that are provided through high speed broadband. We do a site survey for every contact to see if service can be provided. We average 30% installs and cannot serve the rest. This is using 900, 2.4 and 5.7 frequencies. None of these frequencies will work in trees around the house, light forest or in terrain of rolling hills of 100 to 300 feet. Population density are 3 to 12 persons per mile and is not cost effective for current wired solutions. NetsurfUSA does not have the capitol to build towers for every 20 customers, but this is what it would take to serve 85% of our customers and our payback would be 15-20 years. All of our equipment is in the ISM bands and we have worked well with other users and providers to not have conflicts, but there is dramatic growth of more users coming to the current spectrum and are increasing noise floor for everyone. If WISP's had the TV channel spectrum then we would leave a lot of the current unlicensed spectrum to other users, both current and future. This would help us maintain more dense modulation schemes with lower signal to noise ratios. We are a very small business, that is trying to serve our customers and friends who want to continue to live in a non urban lifestyle. Wireless is the only cost effective way to serve them with such low population densities, but the current frequencies will not provide service to most of them. It will take the unused TV channels to provide them high speed broadband. If you allocate the TV channels and just put them up for auction, you will have failed to give these people the relief that they want. Auction of the spectrum will go to large, well funded companies and groups of speculators looking to get the spectrum for resale and profit as the primary goal and not to provide service and innovation. This spectrum would make it possible to serve the vast majority of rural customers. Large Telco's and Cable companies are serving high density areas with very high bandwidth pipes to provide voice, data and video at inexpensive rates and their rural customers are left with basic dialup. WISP's have a passion to serve our customers and neighbors but we need you to help us get the spectrum to provide what the current spectrum cannot. Our country and economy needs to have rural high speed broadband that allows anyone to live anywhere in America and have access. Donald L. Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. P.O. Box 310 French Lick, IN 47432 812-936-4514 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
Done! Mark Williams 888.275.5159 | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.defactowireless.com Instant Messenger Accounts: AIM:mwRacerX2k4 | ICQ:8356114 | YIM:webdoctor | MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | SKYPE: defactomark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Herrmann Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! Done! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:01 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! If you are on other lists please forward this message to every unlicensed list you know of so we get 100% of this industry to do this PLEASE! This will take about 5 minutes of your time and it may make history for our industry. The FCC has had an open Notice of Proposed Rulemaking" called 04-186 - Unlicensed Operation in the TV Broadcast Bands. They have tried to stall this proceeding out because the NAB - National Association of Broadcasters does not want anyone to use TV channels but them. In fact the NAB has even stooped to putting out propaganda in the form of a video docu-drama portrayal of a Grandma who cannot watch TV because the evil unlicensed operators were messing up her TV reception with their demonic unlicensed broadband operations (ok I embellished a bit). Here is the deal. If we lose this fight it is not going to be over a lame video showing a grandma losing her TV stations from our efforts. I am gonna kick some NAB ass before I let that happen. GO RIGHT NOW TO: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi A from will appear magically in your web browser. Fill in the blanks with your contact information. Use the guide below for specific lines to help you with items you may not know how to fill in correctly. 1) Where it says "Proceeding" type in 04-186 2) For the "Mail Correspondence to" line click on "Name". 4) and 5) Leave Blank 11) Check "Late Filed" check box. 12) Select the drop down for "Statement for the Record" The other lines not listed above are things like your name which I will assume you guys have covered. :-) Then type your comments about why you need those TV channels for broadband. Give good reasons and do not argue with the FCC. Just tell them why you need the channels. Use good grammar, use correct spelling, be as good a writer as you can even if it is only one sentence. I want to see 500 comments from the WISP industry on this NPRM over the next 5 days. Let's bury them in so many comments in support of this NPRM that the FCC cannot deny us this ruling. Here are some thoughts that may help motivate you to do this right now: How would you like to serve up broadband that operates in 100% of the proposed theoretical coverage area around your AP with no significant line of sight issues? How would you like to use common off the shelf cable modem type devices with minor modifications as CPE for these new magical APs? Then pay attention and do what I ask right now and do not try to micro-manage this effort. Just speak up right now! Today! Not tomorrow! We need solidarity on this one. Let's get it right and get the message out loud and clear right now. Be prepared to hear negative comments about what I am proposing from WiMAX interests because they do not support all of what I am asking. We are not WiMAX radio builders. We are WISPs and we need TV channels right away before Uncle Sam pays billions to the RBOCs to circumvent what we are doing. This is the FCC plan if you do not act fast. The 120 day VOIP 911 order was a clear message that WISPs are not going to have a level playing field in this current FCC administration in many cases. It is time for us to demand what we need to build our industry. Auctioning off the TV channels is not acceptable to us. The FCC needs to hear it many many times if we are to have a chance at this effort. We need those TV channels offered up under the FCC 04-186 NPRM. Support it and let the FCC know why you support it. Tell them about your people who cannot get signal. Tell them about the unacceptable number of towers it takes to cover a few blocks in a heavily treed area using higher frequencies. Tell them how we could maintain higher density modulation schemes without fallback if the signal to noise ratios were more stable as we will have with TV channels. Tell them how spectrum is getting tight because of the massive growth of wireless broadband in your markets and about how unlicensed use of unused television channels will help this. Tell them we will prove that Grandma will never lose her TV signal with our systems regardless of the NAB "Sky is falling" mentality. Tell them this NOW!. We are going to get 04-186 passed right now or we are going to force the FCC to go ahead and rule against us now while we are the people who brought c
RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Charles Wu wrote: >I am curious...if your problem is rolling hills, how will 700 Mhz >help you? Dirt is dirt You are correct, Charles...Dirt is dirt and NOTHING goes THROUGH dirt. HOWEVER, as you know, these lower frequencies do not reflect or be absorbed like the higher frequencies. In other words, it has more of a tendency to "follow the ground" as it were. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] wisp wanted in 07302 jersey -from EVDO Coverage
please contact jonathan jloor at topratetech .com if anyone can deliver to 07302 thanks! YOU are welcome to contact my cleint directly -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet EVDO Advisor http://evdo-coverage.blogspot.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 102 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
While pretty much (ok 100%) a lurker on the list, I do see this as a significant issue and have filed a comment as well. Thanks! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:01 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! If you are on other lists please forward this message to every unlicensed list you know of so we get 100% of this industry to do this PLEASE! This will take about 5 minutes of your time and it may make history for our industry. The FCC has had an open Notice of Proposed Rulemaking" called 04-186 - Unlicensed Operation in the TV Broadcast Bands. They have tried to stall this proceeding out because the NAB - National Association of Broadcasters does not want anyone to use TV channels but them. In fact the NAB has even stooped to putting out propaganda in the form of a video docu-drama portrayal of a Grandma who cannot watch TV because the evil unlicensed operators were messing up her TV reception with their demonic unlicensed broadband operations (ok I embellished a bit). Here is the deal. If we lose this fight it is not going to be over a lame video showing a grandma losing her TV stations from our efforts. I am gonna kick some NAB ass before I let that happen. GO RIGHT NOW TO: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi A from will appear magically in your web browser. Fill in the blanks with your contact information. Use the guide below for specific lines to help you with items you may not know how to fill in correctly. 1) Where it says "Proceeding" type in 04-186 2) For the "Mail Correspondence to" line click on "Name". 4) and 5) Leave Blank 11) Check "Late Filed" check box. 12) Select the drop down for "Statement for the Record" The other lines not listed above are things like your name which I will assume you guys have covered. :-) Then type your comments about why you need those TV channels for broadband. Give good reasons and do not argue with the FCC. Just tell them why you need the channels. Use good grammar, use correct spelling, be as good a writer as you can even if it is only one sentence. I want to see 500 comments from the WISP industry on this NPRM over the next 5 days. Let's bury them in so many comments in support of this NPRM that the FCC cannot deny us this ruling. Here are some thoughts that may help motivate you to do this right now: How would you like to serve up broadband that operates in 100% of the proposed theoretical coverage area around your AP with no significant line of sight issues? How would you like to use common off the shelf cable modem type devices with minor modifications as CPE for these new magical APs? Then pay attention and do what I ask right now and do not try to micro-manage this effort. Just speak up right now! Today! Not tomorrow! We need solidarity on this one. Let's get it right and get the message out loud and clear right now. Be prepared to hear negative comments about what I am proposing from WiMAX interests because they do not support all of what I am asking. We are not WiMAX radio builders. We are WISPs and we need TV channels right away before Uncle Sam pays billions to the RBOCs to circumvent what we are doing. This is the FCC plan if you do not act fast. The 120 day VOIP 911 order was a clear message that WISPs are not going to have a level playing field in this current FCC administration in many cases. It is time for us to demand what we need to build our industry. Auctioning off the TV channels is not acceptable to us. The FCC needs to hear it many many times if we are to have a chance at this effort. We need those TV channels offered up under the FCC 04-186 NPRM. Support it and let the FCC know why you support it. Tell them about your people who cannot get signal. Tell them about the unacceptable number of towers it takes to cover a few blocks in a heavily treed area using higher frequencies. Tell them how we could maintain higher density modulation schemes without fallback if the signal to noise ratios were more stable as we will have with TV channels. Tell them how spectrum is getting tight because of the massive growth of wireless broadband in your markets and about how unlicensed use of unused television channels will help this. Tell them we will prove that Grandma will never lose her TV signal with our systems regardless of the NAB "Sky is falling" mentality. Tell them this NOW!. We are going to get 04-186 passed right now or we are going to force the FCC to go ahead and rule against us now while we are the people who brought communications online in gulf affected areas. We have the highest level of political equity we have ever had and I plan to use it while we can. It may well be our only chance to get this spectrum and we disparately need THIS SPECTRUM NOW. When you submit your FCC "Statement for
Re: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
Done! And I feel good about doing this. Thanks John for the heads up and making it easy to do. George The FCC Acknowledges Receipt of Comments From … George Rogato …and Thank You for Your Comments Your Confirmation Number is: '2005929364979 ' Date Received: Sep 29 2005 Docket: 04-186 Number of Files Transmitted:1 John Scrivner wrote: GO RIGHT NOW TO: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
I sent the message to BBR WISP forum, P-15 list, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISP list. Lets get this sent to other lists! The FCC Acknowledges Receipt of Comments From … Brian Rohrbacher …and Thank You for Your Comments Your Confirmation Number is: '2005929298304 ' Date Received: Sep 29 2005 Docket: 04-186 Number of Files Transmitted: 1 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
Guys, The BIGGEST reason to NOT auction the band is innovation. Almost all of the spectrum is already licensed, yet where are the deployments? Where are the customers? Where are the new products and services? Even those with licenses are again talking about going unlicensed. When you post, make sure to make a big deal of that point. It may well mean more than all of our whining about unfair competition. Oh yeah, make sure you also point out the problems with the current "spectrum camping" mechanisms in place. Speculators are just sitting on the spectrum thinking it an investment. It's a horrible abuse of what's become (right or wrong) a public resource. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Rick Herrmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:26 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! Done! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:01 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! If you are on other lists please forward this message to every unlicensed list you know of so we get 100% of this industry to do this PLEASE! This will take about 5 minutes of your time and it may make history for our industry. The FCC has had an open Notice of Proposed Rulemaking" called 04-186 - Unlicensed Operation in the TV Broadcast Bands. They have tried to stall this proceeding out because the NAB - National Association of Broadcasters does not want anyone to use TV channels but them. In fact the NAB has even stooped to putting out propaganda in the form of a video docu-drama portrayal of a Grandma who cannot watch TV because the evil unlicensed operators were messing up her TV reception with their demonic unlicensed broadband operations (ok I embellished a bit). Here is the deal. If we lose this fight it is not going to be over a lame video showing a grandma losing her TV stations from our efforts. I am gonna kick some NAB ass before I let that happen. GO RIGHT NOW TO: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi A from will appear magically in your web browser. Fill in the blanks with your contact information. Use the guide below for specific lines to help you with items you may not know how to fill in correctly. 1) Where it says "Proceeding" type in 04-186 2) For the "Mail Correspondence to" line click on "Name". 4) and 5) Leave Blank 11) Check "Late Filed" check box. 12) Select the drop down for "Statement for the Record" The other lines not listed above are things like your name which I will assume you guys have covered. :-) Then type your comments about why you need those TV channels for broadband. Give good reasons and do not argue with the FCC. Just tell them why you need the channels. Use good grammar, use correct spelling, be as good a writer as you can even if it is only one sentence. I want to see 500 comments from the WISP industry on this NPRM over the next 5 days. Let's bury them in so many comments in support of this NPRM that the FCC cannot deny us this ruling. Here are some thoughts that may help motivate you to do this right now: How would you like to serve up broadband that operates in 100% of the proposed theoretical coverage area around your AP with no significant line of sight issues? How would you like to use common off the shelf cable modem type devices with minor modifications as CPE for these new magical APs? Then pay attention and do what I ask right now and do not try to micro-manage this effort. Just speak up right now! Today! Not tomorrow! We need solidarity on this one. Let's get it right and get the message out loud and clear right now. Be prepared to hear negative comments about what I am proposing from WiMAX interests because they do not support all of what I am asking. We are not WiMAX radio builders. We are WISPs and we need TV channels right away before Uncle Sam pays billions to the RBOCs to circumvent what we are doing. This is the FCC plan if you do not act fast. The 120 day VOIP 911 order was a clear message that WISPs are not going to have a level playing field in this current FCC administration in many cases. It is time for us to demand what we need to build our industry. Auctioning off the TV channels is not acceptable to us. The FCC needs to hear it many many times if we are to have a chance at this effort. We need those TV channels offered up under the FCC 04-186 NPRM. Support it and let the FCC know why you support it. Tell them about your people who cannot get signal. Tell them about the unacceptable nu
RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
Done! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:01 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! If you are on other lists please forward this message to every unlicensed list you know of so we get 100% of this industry to do this PLEASE! This will take about 5 minutes of your time and it may make history for our industry. The FCC has had an open Notice of Proposed Rulemaking" called 04-186 - Unlicensed Operation in the TV Broadcast Bands. They have tried to stall this proceeding out because the NAB - National Association of Broadcasters does not want anyone to use TV channels but them. In fact the NAB has even stooped to putting out propaganda in the form of a video docu-drama portrayal of a Grandma who cannot watch TV because the evil unlicensed operators were messing up her TV reception with their demonic unlicensed broadband operations (ok I embellished a bit). Here is the deal. If we lose this fight it is not going to be over a lame video showing a grandma losing her TV stations from our efforts. I am gonna kick some NAB ass before I let that happen. GO RIGHT NOW TO: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi A from will appear magically in your web browser. Fill in the blanks with your contact information. Use the guide below for specific lines to help you with items you may not know how to fill in correctly. 1) Where it says "Proceeding" type in 04-186 2) For the "Mail Correspondence to" line click on "Name". 4) and 5) Leave Blank 11) Check "Late Filed" check box. 12) Select the drop down for "Statement for the Record" The other lines not listed above are things like your name which I will assume you guys have covered. :-) Then type your comments about why you need those TV channels for broadband. Give good reasons and do not argue with the FCC. Just tell them why you need the channels. Use good grammar, use correct spelling, be as good a writer as you can even if it is only one sentence. I want to see 500 comments from the WISP industry on this NPRM over the next 5 days. Let's bury them in so many comments in support of this NPRM that the FCC cannot deny us this ruling. Here are some thoughts that may help motivate you to do this right now: How would you like to serve up broadband that operates in 100% of the proposed theoretical coverage area around your AP with no significant line of sight issues? How would you like to use common off the shelf cable modem type devices with minor modifications as CPE for these new magical APs? Then pay attention and do what I ask right now and do not try to micro-manage this effort. Just speak up right now! Today! Not tomorrow! We need solidarity on this one. Let's get it right and get the message out loud and clear right now. Be prepared to hear negative comments about what I am proposing from WiMAX interests because they do not support all of what I am asking. We are not WiMAX radio builders. We are WISPs and we need TV channels right away before Uncle Sam pays billions to the RBOCs to circumvent what we are doing. This is the FCC plan if you do not act fast. The 120 day VOIP 911 order was a clear message that WISPs are not going to have a level playing field in this current FCC administration in many cases. It is time for us to demand what we need to build our industry. Auctioning off the TV channels is not acceptable to us. The FCC needs to hear it many many times if we are to have a chance at this effort. We need those TV channels offered up under the FCC 04-186 NPRM. Support it and let the FCC know why you support it. Tell them about your people who cannot get signal. Tell them about the unacceptable number of towers it takes to cover a few blocks in a heavily treed area using higher frequencies. Tell them how we could maintain higher density modulation schemes without fallback if the signal to noise ratios were more stable as we will have with TV channels. Tell them how spectrum is getting tight because of the massive growth of wireless broadband in your markets and about how unlicensed use of unused television channels will help this. Tell them we will prove that Grandma will never lose her TV signal with our systems regardless of the NAB "Sky is falling" mentality. Tell them this NOW!. We are going to get 04-186 passed right now or we are going to force the FCC to go ahead and rule against us now while we are the people who brought communications online in gulf affected areas. We have the highest level of political equity we have ever had and I plan to use it while we can. It may well be our only chance to get this spectrum and we disparately need THIS SPECTRUM NOW. When you submit your FCC "Statement for the Record" you will be the proud owner of an official web page confirmation ID which shows you have actually made a difference fo
Re: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
The FCC Acknowledges Receipt of Comments From … Anthony Will …and Thank You for Your Comments Your Confirmation Number is: '2005929725855 ' Date Received: Sep 29 2005 Docket: 04-186 Number of Files Transmitted: 1 Anthony Will Ruralnet Inc. John Scrivner wrote: Here is my confirmation: *The FCC Acknowledges Receipt of Comments From … John Scrivner - Mt. Vernon. Net, Inc. …and Thank You for Your Comments* * Your Confirmation Number is: * '2005928723564 ' ** *Date Received:* *Sep 28 2005 * *Docket:* *04-186 * *Number of Files Transmitted: * *1* -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
The FCC Acknowledges Receipt of Comments From … Dylan Oliver …and Thank You for Your Comments Your Confirmation Number is: '2005929104701 ' Date Received: Sep 29 2005 Docket: 04-186 Number of Files Transmitted: 1 -- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
Trying to put in more towers makes no sense as there could never be enough of them to properly penetrate these vibrant green hillsides. We need the TV frequency. The physics of the frequencies making up the over the air television bands make them ideal for broadband deployment. Hi Chuck, I am curious...if your problem is rolling hills, how will 700 Mhz help you? Dirt is dirt -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
DOCSIS-based wireless -- was RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
How would you like to serve up broadband that operates in 100% of the proposed theoretical coverage area around your AP with no significant line of sight issues? How would you like to use common off the shelf cable modem type devices with minor modifications as CPE for these new magical APs? Then pay attention and do what I ask right now and do not try to micro-manage this effort. Just speak up right now! Today! Not tomorrow! We need solidarity on this one. Let's get it right and get the message out loud and clear right now. If you do get a 700 Mhz license (or lack of and can deploy) -- I would strongly suggest that you analyze the system before "plugging & praying" a DOCSIS-based wireless system -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
I have replied. Your Confirmation Number is: '2005929437138 ' Date Received: Sep 29 2005 Docket: 04-186 Number of Files Transmitted: 1 As a WISP serving rural Indiana, our biggest problem with providing 100% coverage to our potential customers is trees. We are currently turning down about 55% of our requests due to inadequate signal to provide reliable high speed Internet. Since the lower frequencies penetrate foliage better than the higher frequencies, I believe we would be able to reach as many as 90% of those that request service, were we to deploy lower frequencies, such as in the 700MHz area. We also have problems with the current 2.4Ghz band we use being very crowded. The signal to noise ratio gets to the point of making the band unusable in some areas. Having a frequency band allocated just to wireless Internet would alleviate this problems, not just for us, but also for the general consumer who is also trying to use devices in this range. By letting us get out of the range, there would be less congestion for others. As a mom & pop business, we cannot afford to purchase spectrum at auction. What we can do, just as small businesses all around our great country do, is offer services to those areas that no one else services. None of our current customers has any ground-based Broadband Internet service available to them other then NewWays. Their gratitude is part of what makes our business grow. Please provide us (the WISP industry) with some dedicated spectrum that is available based on the services we provide rather than the money we have. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: John Scrivner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:01:09 -0500 Subject: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! > If you are on other lists please forward this message to every > unlicensed list you know of so we get 100% of this industry to do this > PLEASE! This will take about 5 minutes of your time and it may make > history for our industry. > > The FCC has had an open Notice of Proposed Rulemaking" called 04-186 - > Unlicensed Operation in the TV Broadcast Bands. They have tried to stall > this proceeding out because the NAB - National Association of > Broadcasters does not want anyone to use TV channels but them. In fact > the NAB has even stooped to putting out propaganda in the form of a > video docu-drama portrayal of a Grandma who cannot watch TV because the > evil unlicensed operators were messing up her TV reception with their > demonic unlicensed broadband operations (ok I embellished a bit). > > Here is the deal. If we lose this fight it is not going to be over a > lame video showing a grandma losing her TV stations from our efforts. I > am gonna kick some NAB ass before I let that happen. > > GO RIGHT NOW TO: > http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi > > A from will appear magically in your web browser. Fill in the blanks > with your contact information. Use the guide below for specific lines to > help you with items you may not know how to fill in correctly. > > 1) Where it says "Proceeding" type in 04-186 > 2) For the "Mail Correspondence to" line click on "Name". > 4) and 5) Leave Blank > 11) Check "Late Filed" check box. > 12) Select the drop down for "Statement for the Record" > > The other lines not listed above are things like your name which I will > assume you guys have covered. :-) > > Then type your comments about why you need those TV channels for > broadband. Give good reasons and do not argue with the FCC. Just tell > them why you need the channels. Use good grammar, use correct spelling, > be as good a writer as you can even if it is only one sentence. I want > to see 500 comments from the WISP industry on this NPRM over the next 5 > days. Let's bury them in so many comments in support of this NPRM that > the FCC cannot deny us this ruling. > > Here are some thoughts that may help motivate you to do this right now: > > How would you like to serve up broadband that operates in 100% of the > proposed theoretical coverage area around your AP with no significant > line of sight issues? How would you like to use common off the shelf > cable modem type devices with minor modifications as CPE for these new > magical APs? Then pay attention and do what I ask right now and do not > try to micro-manage this effort. Just speak up right now! Today! Not > tomorrow! We need solidarity on this one. Let's get it right and get the > message out loud and clear right now. > > Be prepared to hear negative comments about what I am proposing from > WiMAX intere
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2
Or with StarOS you need to run a VDS tunnel over your wireless link then bridge the Ethernet to the VDS interface. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: 29 September 2005 03:31 To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2 You CAN bridge wireless cards and ethernet... Need to use EOIP tunnels however. Contact Butch Evans... http://www.butchevans.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2 Also We were unable to bridge a Wifi card to the Ethernet port when in Station mode, and successfully pass traffic. In Mikrotik documentation, it clearly states that this is NOT supported because of a limitation of WiFi. I find it hard to believe that Mikrotik can't be used as a bridged CPE, without routing. I have Station Server boxes, configured as Stations, and have them set as bridges with no problem. Am I missing something? Am I correct that Mikrotiks can't be set up as bridges between Ethernet and Wifi port? For various reasons I do NOT want to route. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:46 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions > I'm using Mikrotik live for the first time tommorrow and in a crunch for > an 8am install. > > 1> We flashed Mikrotik to WRAP boards. However, it will not shut down, > and their for prevents soft reboot. This is a known issue with WRAP > boards listed in their docs, and can be fixed with a kernal bit change or > something like that. But not sure how to do that when using Mikrotik a > closed OS. Does any one know how to fix that? Is there a patch or > different version of Mikrotik image to deal with this? > > 2> Our plan is to use WDS, because it allows bridging over the WiFi, so we > can pass large packet VLAN traffic successfully. WDS in some methods of > deployment has a bad wrap because of double use of bandwdith to perform > its common use. However in our case, it doesn't have that draw back. > Basically we are using 4 units like a CPE each located on a building > within the complex, to interconnect to the 5th unit acting like an AP, > where the Ethernet gets plugged into our backhaul radio. WDS should make > it jsut look like a big switch. Does anyone know something about WDS that > I don't, that would make it disadvantageous to use for my intended > purpose? > > 3> Lastly, some of the existing residential buildings in the complex have > Station-server CPEs. I want to avoid replacing these, because they do not > need VLAN support. I had some difficulty geting the Mikrotik to > communicate with the Station server CPEs if I tried to use WPA encryption. > Using WEP worked fine. USing WPA Mikrotik to Mikrotik worked fine. Is > there anything I need to do to make Sation server work with Mikrotik both > using WPA? Has anyone else made it work, or is it just incompatible. I'm > wondering if its a Station Server issue. I also had problems with Station > Server connecting to the new Teletronic CPEs with WPA. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > 301-515-7774 > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 9/23/2005 > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/113 - Release Date: 9/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/113 - Release Date: 9/27/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/113 - Release Date: 27/09/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/114 - Release Date: 28/09/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
I'm in Here is what ?I sent... Comments Auctioning off the TV channels is not acceptable to us. We are a rural WISP supplying 20,000 homes with ABSOLUTLY no other option. These frequency are vital in the non line of site issues facing WISP today. 900MHz is simply not as effective as once thought. Our biggest hurdle is the natural, beautiful landscape that makes living in the country so attractive. Our options to solve the problems are to put up towers. Trying to put in more towers makes no sense as there could never be enough of them to properly penetrate these vibrant green hillsides. We need the TV frequency. The physics of the frequencies making up the over the air television bands make them ideal for broadband deployment. The goal in America is Fiber to the home. Weather it is physical fiber or wireless fiber makes no difference, just put us on the same playing field. WISP have proven their salt. Most recently with the hurricane disasters relief efforts, and having the ability to bring in, in some places, the absolute only services (VOIP & Internet)to help locate and reunite the devastated victims in the most trying of situations. We are experienced, we are determined, we are professional. We are what make up rural Americas connectivity. Hardworking entrepreneurial men and women willing to do what big business would say does not make economic sense. We went into rural areas deemed unprofitable by the RBOC's. Are rural Americans just to sit back and let technology pass them by just because of the location they choose live. We have shown it can be accomplished effectively, efficiently and at a cost all can afford. Do not ties our hands, Help us help Rural America. Give WISPs these unused television channels and we will get broadband access to every American near and far. Respectfully submitted, Chuck Moses High Desert Wireless Broadband communication LLC Mojave CA Chuck Moses High Desert Wireless Broadband Communication 16922 Airport Blvd # 3 Mojave CA 93501 661 824 3431 office 818 406 6818 cell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:01 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! If you are on other lists please forward this message to every unlicensed list you know of so we get 100% of this industry to do this PLEASE! This will take about 5 minutes of your time and it may make history for our industry. The FCC has had an open Notice of Proposed Rulemaking" called 04-186 - Unlicensed Operation in the TV Broadcast Bands. They have tried to stall this proceeding out because the NAB - National Association of Broadcasters does not want anyone to use TV channels but them. In fact the NAB has even stooped to putting out propaganda in the form of a video docu-drama portrayal of a Grandma who cannot watch TV because the evil unlicensed operators were messing up her TV reception with their demonic unlicensed broadband operations (ok I embellished a bit). Here is the deal. If we lose this fight it is not going to be over a lame video showing a grandma losing her TV stations from our efforts. I am gonna kick some NAB ass before I let that happen. GO RIGHT NOW TO: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi A from will appear magically in your web browser. Fill in the blanks with your contact information. Use the guide below for specific lines to help you with items you may not know how to fill in correctly. 1) Where it says "Proceeding" type in 04-186 2) For the "Mail Correspondence to" line click on "Name". 4) and 5) Leave Blank 11) Check "Late Filed" check box. 12) Select the drop down for "Statement for the Record" The other lines not listed above are things like your name which I will assume you guys have covered. :-) Then type your comments about why you need those TV channels for broadband. Give good reasons and do not argue with the FCC. Just tell them why you need the channels. Use good grammar, use correct spelling, be as good a writer as you can even if it is only one sentence. I want to see 500 comments from the WISP industry on this NPRM over the next 5 days. Let's bury them in so many comments in support of this NPRM that the FCC cannot deny us this ruling. Here are some thoughts that may help motivate you to do this right now: How would you like to serve up broadband that operates in 100% of the proposed theoretical coverage area around your AP with no significant line of sight issues? How would you like to use common off the shelf cable modem type devices with minor modifications as CPE for these new magical APs? Then pay attention and do what I ask right now and do not try to micro-manage this effort. Just speak up right now! Today! Not tomorrow! We need solidarity on this one. Let's get it right and get the message out loud and clear right now. Be prepared to hear negative comments ab