[WISPA] Novel way to reach Canopy Cluster on pole

2006-10-01 Thread Ralph Fowler
What to do when the cluster is too high for a ladder?
I'll bet some of you can figure out what this is g

http://ralphfowler.com/climb_to_cluster.jpg

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Re: [WISPA] Novel way to reach Canopy Cluster on pole

2006-10-01 Thread Joe Laura
Looks like a earthlink pop to me. 
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 What to do when the cluster is too high for a ladder?
 I'll bet some of you can figure out what this is g
 
 http://ralphfowler.com/climb_to_cluster.jpg
 
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RE: [WISPA] Novel way to reach Canopy Cluster on pole

2006-10-01 Thread Grant Stufft
Been deer hunting with it?

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 What to do when the cluster is too high for a ladder?
 I'll bet some of you can figure out what this is g
 
 http://ralphfowler.com/climb_to_cluster.jpg
 
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[WISPA] Diagnosing interference

2006-10-01 Thread Mike Ireton



	In our neck of the woods we have some areas where 802.11 systems simply 
do not function, period (and this is across a range of frequency bands 
and equipment manufacturers). And sometimes, in some limited cases, we 
will have a sub who appears to be experiencing interference that is much 
louder than our rssi at the sub (say they have a -63, but they still 
can't reliably hear the ap well enough for communication) and there's 
nothing really obvious in the area we can see. We know it's radio 
interference because we can play the channel flipping game, but we'd 
like to be better than that and actually diagnose the problem and 
identify the source and direction of the transmitter creating the 
problem, so that we can plan better and actually provide a resolution 
that will last for that sub.


We know about spectrum analysis and such and actually own a handy unit 
(the Spectran) but it doesn't give real time data useful for direction 
finding. What are some of the other tools (hand held or truck mounted, 
not built-in firmware features) you folks use for this? If we had a tool 
that would just give us knowledge about the non-household applications 
present in these areas (where non-household is anything with a larger 
gain antenna and/or power output than a cordless phone or wireless 
access point), we could even go so far as to try and coordinate with 
those applications for the betterment of everyone. But just waking up 
one morning and learning a long time customer now has an Interference 
problem you have no way to resolve other than by terminating the 
business relationship, just really sucks ass in my opinion. And when you 
run out of tricks like new antennas, equipment, alignments and such, 
that's exactly what you're left with.




Mike-


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RE: [WISPA] Diagnosing interference

2006-10-01 Thread Ralph Fowler
Spectran?  Are you talking about the software for a PC sound card?
That's not going to do what you want, for sure!
There really isn't a cheap solution.


What wireless gear do you use?
If it has an external antenna input you should be able to attach a very high
gain antenna (and an attenuator) and go on a real live fox hunt

You can rent a spectrum analyzer as well, but it is pricey!
I'm using one from Rohde and Schwarz.  A 0-3 GHz one goes for $450.00 -
$640.00 per month
 



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In our neck of the woods we have some areas where 802.11 systems
simply do not function, period (and this is across a range of frequency
bands and equipment manufacturers). And sometimes, in some limited cases, we
will have a sub who appears to be experiencing interference that is much
louder than our rssi at the sub (say they have a -63, but they still can't
reliably hear the ap well enough for communication) and there's nothing
really obvious in the area we can see. We know it's radio interference
because we can play the channel flipping game, but we'd like to be better
than that and actually diagnose the problem and identify the source and
direction of the transmitter creating the problem, so that we can plan
better and actually provide a resolution that will last for that sub.

We know about spectrum analysis and such and actually own a handy unit (the
Spectran) but it doesn't give real time data useful for direction finding.
What are some of the other tools (hand held or truck mounted, not built-in
firmware features) you folks use for this? If we had a tool that would just
give us knowledge about the non-household applications present in these
areas (where non-household is anything with a larger gain antenna and/or
power output than a cordless phone or wireless access point), we could even
go so far as to try and coordinate with those applications for the
betterment of everyone. But just waking up one morning and learning a long
time customer now has an Interference problem you have no way to resolve
other than by terminating the business relationship, just really sucks ass
in my opinion. And when you run out of tricks like new antennas, equipment,
alignments and such, that's exactly what you're left with.



Mike-


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RE: [WISPA] Novel way to reach Canopy Cluster on pole

2006-10-01 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
...a helium balloon strapped to your tummy?

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What to do when the cluster is too high for a ladder?
I'll bet some of you can figure out what this is g

http://ralphfowler.com/climb_to_cluster.jpg

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Re: [WISPA] Diagnosing interference

2006-10-01 Thread Mike Ireton

Ralph Fowler wrote:

Spectran?  Are you talking about the software for a PC sound card?
That's not going to do what you want, for sure!
There really isn't a cheap solution.




We have an expensive hand held unit, looks like an alien ray gun, that 
does a range of 0 - 6ghz with down to 1mhz resolution per step. The 
problems are not enough resolution (can't see any difference between 
-80dbm and -60dbm, or at least, not without a lot of time consuming 
tweeking and such), and no real-time sweeping capabillity, making a 
complete pass take too long for direction finding activities (or at 
least, for my reletive level of inexperience).


What I'd want, I think, is a crt with the wavy lines updated in near 
real time, in a hand held unit I can take into the field and really see 
what and where things are. I don't care too much about formallities, I'd 
just like to see that, yes, there's a -37 between 2454 and 2459mhz and 
that's why this link isn't working.


There were a few units from Berkeley Varitronics that we were 
considering at one point, but unfortunately we couldn't be permitted to 
receive a live demonstration and so that $4,000 sale had to be postponed 
indefinately because we don't buy expensive equipment we're not 
permitted to try out first. And that's too bad because they really do 
seem to have some quite useful field testing equipment more tuned and 
designed for wisp field use than the generic spectrum analysis tools 
previously mentioned.


Mike-

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RE: [WISPA] Diagnosing interference

2006-10-01 Thread Faisal Imtiaz

Have you tried to use the HF-6060 you have with a USB cable connected to the
Laptop and the Windows Software ?
You will find the software to be more flexible and also will allow you to
store the results.



Faisal Imtiaz
SnappyDSL.net
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Ralph Fowler wrote:
 Spectran?  Are you talking about the software for a PC sound card?
 That's not going to do what you want, for sure!
 There really isn't a cheap solution.
 
 

We have an expensive hand held unit, looks like an alien ray gun, that does
a range of 0 - 6ghz with down to 1mhz resolution per step. The problems are
not enough resolution (can't see any difference between -80dbm and -60dbm,
or at least, not without a lot of time consuming tweeking and such), and no
real-time sweeping capabillity, making a complete pass take too long for
direction finding activities (or at least, for my reletive level of
inexperience).

What I'd want, I think, is a crt with the wavy lines updated in near real
time, in a hand held unit I can take into the field and really see what and
where things are. I don't care too much about formallities, I'd just like to
see that, yes, there's a -37 between 2454 and 2459mhz and that's why this
link isn't working.

There were a few units from Berkeley Varitronics that we were considering at
one point, but unfortunately we couldn't be permitted to receive a live
demonstration and so that $4,000 sale had to be postponed indefinately
because we don't buy expensive equipment we're not permitted to try out
first. And that's too bad because they really do seem to have some quite
useful field testing equipment more tuned and designed for wisp field use
than the generic spectrum analysis tools previously mentioned.

Mike-

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[WISPA] Accounting for Mikrotik Hotspot

2006-10-01 Thread rwf
 
Is anyone using a solution to handle user signups and credit card billing
for the Mikrotik Hotspot.
It can use RADIUS, and I know there is one service called tollbooth, but
I'd like an app I can run myself and not have to pay someone a cut of the
proceeds.

Thanks

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