RE: [WISPA] Marlon and WISPA

2007-02-15 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Marlon Rocks!!! :-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Marlon and WISPA I just wanted to let the list know that Marlon from Odessa, WA came down today, a two

RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range

2007-02-15 Thread Don Annas
Thank you Rick. I did fire the question to the Trango forum as well. Not many replies as of yet. Jeff over at Slingshot wireless engaged Tino w/ Trango about the issue for us. Jeff thought it might be worth while to change the polarity from horizontal to vertical to see if that helped so we

RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range

2007-02-15 Thread chris cooper
We had a similar thing happen to us- our SNR was great, but every so often it would just crash. It was on a flat roof, sled mount that held the radio @ 24 off the roof. After trying everything, we raised the mount up to @ 4ft and it solved the problem. chris On 2/14/07, Don Annas [EMAIL

RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range

2007-02-15 Thread Don Annas
Interesting... So it is not a good practice in general to shoot across a flat roof without some height on the radio. In looking at the integrated antennal specs, It seemed like I had the clearance but with the power of the radio (being so close), maybe this increases the chance for multi-path?

RE: [WISPA] Reseller Program

2007-02-15 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
OK! Those of you that are not paid members, please delete Mac's email below (hehe) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:08 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Reseller Program Forbes, I have

[WISPA] Canadian Wisps

2007-02-15 Thread Carl A jeptha
Please contact me offlist to see if we can have our own chapter under the WISPA Umbrella -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] Marlon and WISPA

2007-02-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Thanks for the kind words Forbes! How are the customers doing this am? Can you tell yet? I'd really like to know if all of the customers came back online on the system that we pulled the amp from. I'd also like to know (on here would be great) if the other customers can see any difference

Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations

2007-02-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I'd recommend against that idea Matt. ALL devices leak some energy. And the amount of interference you'll create for yourself at inches vs. feet is amazing. If you can keep things 3 feet apart there is much less energy, small small fractions in fact. Alvarion with their FHSS gear can get

Re: [WISPA] WA State WISPS

2007-02-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Let me think about this. There's a wisp in Idaho that's gone around the bend with dnr. Pace was his last name. Can't remember the first one yet. marlon - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14,

Re: [WISPA] Automated Tower Climbs

2007-02-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
You guys, someone has to climb up and put the rope up there in the first place! grin - Original Message - From: Jenco Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Automated Tower Climbs I want

Re: [WISPA] Reseller Program

2007-02-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I don't have anything formal. We've done this in two ways. In one case the company also did installs and local basic tech support. I paid them $7 per sub that they acquired for us. (I'd make it $3 or $5 these days and do my own installs.) In a current case, the computer store buys internet

Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations

2007-02-15 Thread Sam Tetherow
There shouldn't be any interference from 2.4 to 5.8 though should there, even if the card can handle dual band (CM9s)? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I'd recommend against that idea Matt. ALL devices leak some energy. And the amount of interference you'll

Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations

2007-02-15 Thread Matt Liotta
Wi-Fi doesn't mean 2.4Ghz and while we don't deploy a lot of Wi-Fi we have some idea what we are doing. Thanks for the concern. -Matt Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I'd recommend against that idea Matt. ALL devices leak some energy. And the amount of interference you'll create for yourself at

Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations

2007-02-15 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Standard Wifi has 3 channels that do not overlap. X4 cloaking has 6 channels that do not overlap and X4 cloaking has 11 channels that do not overlap. We use 4 WLM-54G radios in a WAR4 and have seen no great issues unless two active radios are on the same channel. I am not sure about 6 but I

RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range

2007-02-15 Thread Don Annas
OK, changing from H to V polarity didn't seem to work. We just had another drop that lasted about 2 minutes. I just sent one of our engineers to a local distributor about an hour away to buy a Canopy AP and SU. We are out of spare tires with this customer. I'm really disappointed with the luck

RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range

2007-02-15 Thread Todd Barber
Have you considered the possibility of a 5.8 GHz cordless phone in the area? I know we have seen this issue in the 2.4 GHz range when someone nearby would get on the cordless handset. Todd Barber Skylink Broadband Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 970-454-9499 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations

2007-02-15 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Jack, Of course the throughput on 4 cards is not 4 times the throughput on a single card. The processors cannot handle that at this time. It needs more than a 533 to drive 4 Atheros cards to full throughput and then you have the limitation that most units today are only using 100 mbps

RE: [WISPA] Reseller Program

2007-02-15 Thread Forbes Mercy
Thanks a bunch Mac! Forbes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:08 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Reseller Program Forbes, I have one that was drawn up by my

RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range

2007-02-15 Thread Don Annas
I haven't given much thought to that as these radios are on the roof and pretty well insulated from the inner offices. If the 5.8 phones are causing issues with a link less than 100yrds apart, I need to just start pulling fiber :-) Like you, I have seen that issue with 2.4 systems before. - D

[WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list

2007-02-15 Thread Steve Stroh
I've posted my most recent update to my Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list at http://www.bwiavendors.com/2007/02/ bwia_vendors_up_1.html This update lists 85 unique vendors, and while that's a lot, I know there's more. If you could take a look at it and tell me of any

RE: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list

2007-02-15 Thread Patrick Leary
Steve, here are a few off my head that are not there...Freewave, MDS, Lightpointe is with an e on the end, Wave Wireless (formerly Waverider, etc.), ZTE (ZiMAX), Huwaie, Acton Wireless Broadband (AWB), is Cirronet still around?, Qualcomm (with their MediaFLO), Arraycom, Terabeam actually dba's as

RE: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list

2007-02-15 Thread Patrick Leary
Also...is Optimax still around? That was cool stuff Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Stroh Sent: Thursday, February

[WISPA] Re: Feb 22

2007-02-15 Thread John Scrivner
Frannie, I have copied the WISPA list server on this email. Please reply to me and let me know exactly what you would like for me to have these contacts do who are in the districts listed below. I am sure you want to see them express their need for unlicensed use of unused television channel

Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations

2007-02-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I'd think that would be correct. marlon - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations There shouldn't be any interference from 2.4 to

Re: [WISPA] Re: Feb 22

2007-02-15 Thread Bob Knight
We are in NM 2, Tom Udall. NM 1 has the Sandoval County-wide wireless initiative (which, IMNSHO, is a money sink of the finest kind: NM political and economic development history repeated in classic form with the usual up-front grandiose claims and goals, award of funds, under-delivery of

Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations

2007-02-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
There USED to be three non overlapping channels. Now channel 6 overlaps with every third house in many markets :-). Marlon - Original Message - From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Re:

[WISPA] Attention: Form 445 Information

2007-02-15 Thread John Scrivner
Below are the companies which are to be included in the revised 445 filing. If your company should have been listed here and is not then please email john at scrivner.com right away. This is available only to paid WISPA Principal Members. New members need to make sure payments for membership

[WISPA] Fw: [Ham-80211] 2.4 GHz remote broadcast

2007-02-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
fyi - Original Message - From: Steve To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:26 PM Subject: [Ham-80211] 2.4 GHz remote broadcast Monday I noticed that a local TV station was doing a remote broadcast from downtown. What's interesting about this is that much to my

RE: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list

2007-02-15 Thread Mac Dearman
So Steve - who does that mean you leave out? (I can only think of two MAJOR players) You ask this on a list that where there are probably only 3 members who run 100% stickered radios? SHAME! I realize that this will probably stir the stink, but get REAL! Post your list openly - Patrick you

Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations

2007-02-15 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Precisely why X2 cloaking is so important. It doubles the number of channels and X4 gives 11 of them back to us. X4 gives about 7 mbps with non compressible data and over 12 mbps with compressible data. Better than a standard B model with perfect conditions. The other thing to keep in mind is

Re: [WISPA] Re: Feb 22

2007-02-15 Thread wispa
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:21:19 -0600, John Scrivner wrote I'm in Walden's district here in Oregon. However, I don't fully understand what, exactly, is being sought. Are they wanting someone to lobby the Congresscritters, or are we supposed to contact them to help them...??? What, exactly?

Was: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list : Now: WOW Way to put foot into mouth!

2007-02-15 Thread David Peterson
I have lurked for some time now, but feel the need to address an alarming trend on this list. There are Industry Leaders putting facts out there with out fully examining the truth. Before you flame me, please read all that is below my signature as proof to my comments... Steve, dude... I figure

Re: [WISPA] Attention: Form 445 Information

2007-02-15 Thread Matt
We are a member of WISPA and Part-15 and followed through with the part-15 filing directions before you even offered this. Can we change to yours later if we like? ;) Matt Below are the companies which are to be included in the revised 445 filing. If your company should have been listed here

Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations

2007-02-15 Thread Dylan Oliver
Hi Matt, Meru Networks Radio Switch takes up to 4 Wi-Fi cards - 2 b/g, and 2 a. It is controller-based, but the controller could be on a separate network. There is full support for multiple ESSIDs and heavy optimization for voice. You might have heard of Meru in Network Computing's recent

RE: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list: Now: WOW Way to put foot into mouth!

2007-02-15 Thread Mac Dearman
That is some fine - fast research and dead on Thanks, Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Peterson Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Was: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet

RE: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations

2007-02-15 Thread Mac Dearman
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: SNIP FHSS has 72 (or is it only 70?) channels to choose from. WiFi has basically 2 these days. Last account I had was that FHSS had 75 channels and I could have sworn last time I looked we still had 3 non over lapping channels in 802.11b DSSS. Mac

RE: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list

2007-02-15 Thread Patrick Leary
Damn Mac, I really can't understand what you are trying to say. Are you saying that some day illegal vendors may be legal? And you point is what? That I'll go, Oh no! Now they're legal, what shall I do? Well good for them; I'll welcome them into the business. And then we can compete on the level