I haven't given much thought to that as these radios are on the roof and
pretty well insulated from the inner offices.  If the 5.8 phones are causing
issues with a link less than 100yrds apart, I need to just start pulling
fiber :-)  Like you, I have seen that issue with 2.4 systems before.

- D

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Todd Barber
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 2:31 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range

Have you considered the possibility of a 5.8 GHz cordless phone in the area?
I know we have seen this issue in the 2.4 GHz range when someone nearby
would get on the cordless handset.  

Todd Barber
Skylink Broadband Internet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
970-454-9499

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Don Annas
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:27 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Cc: 'Tim McCrickard'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range

OK, changing from H to V polarity didn't seem to work.  We just had another
drop that lasted about 2 minutes.  I just sent one of our engineers to a
local distributor about an hour away to buy a Canopy AP and SU.  We are out
of spare tires with this customer.  I'm really disappointed with the luck we
have had with the Trango FOX units so far.

- Don

Syslog:
#> syslog
  0> 0:00:00:04.898 [1] [ATTN] batchd started
  1> 0:00:00:05.235 [1] rcd: start
  2> 0:00:00:08.595 [1] Init of mod_trango_reg
  3> 0:00:00:09.303 [1] telnetd is disabled
  4> 0:00:00:14.865 [1] snmpset chch 8
  5> 0:00:00:14.876 [1] snmpset ant h
  6> 0:00:00:14.876 [1] snmpset power 22
  7> 0:00:00:15.123 [1] snmpset scantable
  8> 0:00:00:15.123 [1] snmpset httpd switch = 1
  9> 0:00:00:15.123 [1] snmpset pppoeonly = 0
 10> 0:00:00:15.123 [1] snmpset bcast = 1
 11> 0:00:00:15.123 [1] snmpset tcp_ap = 1
 12> 0:00:00:15.123 [1] snmpset tcp_su = 1
 13> 0:00:00:17.471 [1] [ATTN] System Settings loaded
 14> 0:00:00:17.539 [1] rcd: system settings are available
 15> 0:00:00:17.539 [1] batchd: system settings are available
 16> 0:00:00:17.539 [1] Success to set rssi vector from flash: 132 -439 132
-439
 17> 0:00:00:17.539 [1] 48 entries in power table
 18> 0:00:00:17.550 [1] Operate in legacy mode
 19> 0:00:00:17.550 [1] batchd: start shelld
 20> 0:00:00:17.550 [1] telnetport = 23
 21> 0:00:00:17.584 [1] ch = 8, ant = 1
 22> 0:00:00:17.584 [1] batchd: rx_fifo_err_thr = 100
 23> 0:00:00:17.584 [1] batchd: boa 2
 24> 0:00:00:17.606 [1] batchd: start boa
 25> 0:00:00:17.617 [1] httpport = 80
 26> 0:00:00:17.640 [1] ch = 8, ant = 1
 27> 0:00:00:17.640 [1] Skip update power at 0 MHz.
 28> 0:00:00:17.640 [1] batchd: boa 1
 29> 0:00:00:17.651 [1] set_br_param cmd=21 value=1
 30> 0:00:00:22.719 [1] freq 5736  power 22  pa 44 78 78 83 93 9E
 31> 0:00:00:50.539 [1] utype = 0
 32> 0:00:00:50.539 [1] set_br_param cmd=22 value=1
 33> 0:00:00:50.550 [1] set_br_param cmd=23 value=1
 34> 0:00:00:50.550 [1] set_br_param cmd=20 value=0
 35> 0:00:00:54.539 [1] Associated
 36> 0:06:35:50.134 [1] Disconnected
 37> 0:07:09:41.696 [1] Associated
 38> 0:07:11:19.022 [1] Disconnected
 39> 0:07:12:22.224 [1] Associated
 40> 0:07:14:18.067 [1] snmpset scantable
 41> 0:07:14:18.067 [1] snmpset chch 6
 42> 0:07:14:18.067 [1] snmpset ant h
 43> 0:07:14:18.067 [1] snmpset power 22
 44> 0:07:14:18.067 [1] ch = 6, ant = 1
 45> 0:07:14:19.089 [1] freq 5736  power 22  pa 44 78 78 83 93 9E
 46> 0:07:14:20.235 [1] freq 5836  power 22  pa 64 7D 7D 8A 98 A3
 47> 0:07:14:20.235 [1] Disconnected
 48> 0:07:14:41.853 [1] Associated
 49> 1:12:49:53.337 [1] Disconnected
 50> 1:13:13:07.573 [1] Associated
 51> 1:13:21:52.022 [1] freq 5836  power 19  pa 37 6C 6C 77 84 90
 52> 1:14:33:07.134 [1] freq 5836  power 15  pa 1 58 58 62 6E 7A
 53> 2:03:09:55.842 [1] Disconnected
 54> 2:03:24:39.404 [1] Associated
 55> 2:03:24:45.730 [1] freq 5836  power 19  pa 37 6C 6C 77 84 90
 56> 2:03:25:33.775 [1] Disconnected
 57> 2:03:29:02.101 [1] Associated
 58> 2:03:30:06.382 [1] snmpset scantable
 59> 2:03:30:06.393 [1] snmpset chch 1
 60> 2:03:30:06.393 [1] snmpset ant v
 61> 2:03:30:06.393 [1] snmpset power 22
 62> 2:03:30:06.404 [1] ch = 1, ant = 0
 63> 2:03:30:06.921 [1] freq 5836  power 22  pa 64 7D 7D 8A 98 A3
 64> 2:03:30:08.539 [1] freq 5736  power 22  pa 44 78 78 83 93 9E
 65> 2:03:30:08.539 [1] Disconnected
 66> 2:03:30:42.426 [1] Associated
 67> 2:03:30:48.764 [1] freq 5736  power 19  pa 22 66 66 72 7F 8B
 68> 2:03:30:50.000 [1] freq 5736  power 16  pa 1 57 57 62 6E 7A
 69> 2:03:33:11.157 [1] freq 5736  power 19  pa 22 66 66 72 7F 8B
 70> 2:03:33:12.292 [1] freq 5736  power 22  pa 44 78 78 83 93 9E
 71> 2:15:54:42.494 [1] freq 5736  power 18  pa 15 61 61 6D 79 85
 72> 2:15:54:43.550 [1] freq 5736  power 14  pa -8 4D 4D 58 64 70
 73> 2:19:59:45.101 [1] Disconnected
 74> 2:20:02:15.303 [1] Associated
Success.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Don Annas
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
Cc: Tim McCrickard
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range

Interesting...  So it is not a good practice in general to shoot across a
flat roof without some height on the radio.  In looking at the integrated
antennal specs, It seemed like I had the clearance but with the power of the
radio (being so close), maybe this increases the chance for multi-path?

- Don

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of chris cooper
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:08 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range

We had a similar thing happen to us- our SNR was great, but every so
often it would just crash.  It was on a flat roof, sled mount that held
the radio @ 24" off the roof. After trying everything, we raised the
mount up to @ 4ft and it solved the problem.

chris
On 2/14/07, Don Annas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The building the SU is on is not much lower.  It appears to have good
line
> of site and the signal is a -60 on both sides.  Additionally, when the
link
> is up, it's perfect.  One thing that I will note is the AP is only a
few
> feet off the roof and about 12 ft from the edge due to the landlords
> requirements.  Even though, it is clear LOS even an inch off the roof


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