RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH

2007-11-12 Thread Mike Cowan
900 VL is coming It will be an outstanding product. I already placed a huge inventory order. Mike At 08:06 PM 11/10/2007, you wrote: We have some VL in the air, real noisy area. We had to run 10Mhz channels on H-POL, so we see 11-12Mbps net TCP throughput. We run VOIP on it also, Works

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH

2007-11-12 Thread Patrick Leary
No formal news yet Larry re time frames, except that it is coming and it will be based on the VL platform. In other words, whatever VL can do, it will do though it will use a smaller channel of course. So throughput and VoIP performance should be quite good. The NLOS performance should be

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH

2007-11-12 Thread Larry A Weidig
Mike/Patrick: Any further details about this product which could be made available to the list? Thanks! Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Cowan Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE:

[WISPA] Welcome WISPA Vendor Member - CTI Connect

2007-11-12 Thread John Scrivner
I am sure many of you know Charles Wu. What you may not know is that a company called CTI Connect, a company which Charles founded, is a Vendor Member of WISPA. They joined some time back but we just now did receive the introductory information for them to send out to all of you to let you

[WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread George Rogato
I need to buy a few ups's for some remote pops. I was looking at APC and the place I buy stuff from had these: http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?ID=52353C=216S=-1 Is this worth buying, or should I go with APC at twice the price?

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Ryan Langseth
A couple of the differeneces I see: the APC has a 2 year warranty vs 90 days on the generic one, also it looks like you can add a ethernet module to the APC for remote monitoring. also the Wattage output is 600W higher on the APC Not sure if that is worth twice the price though. Ryan On Mon,

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
We have had great luck buying refurb APC UPS from www.upsprotection.com Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
George, are you really needing that much? 3KVA? Or is it the higher battery capacity you're wanting? I buy used APC Smart-UPS SU700NET from ebay, without batteries. Then I buy a couple RV batteries and hook them up (outside the enclosure, of course). I put in a AP9617 SNMP device and it gives

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH

2007-11-12 Thread Larry A Weidig
We have a number of new tower sites going up at the moment and would definitely consider this instead of the Trango if available. Please keep me updated as this progresses. Thanks! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH

2007-11-12 Thread Larry A Weidig
Sorry, meant that to be offlist. I apologize for that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry A Weidig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH We have a number

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread George Rogato
Not sure how much I need really. It's the downtime. This one pop has a trango, a wrap a metro and a cheap switch. Usually when it looses power it could be 24 hours or more. With your set up, how much do you pay including the 2 rv batteries and how long have you had for a power outage? I

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread John Valenti
Mark, How much effort is involved in changing it over to the RV batteries? You need to use two of them because that is what the SU700 is setup for, right? It seems to do OK charging these batteries that are considerably larger than it was designed for? Is the SU700NET the cheapest APC that

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, There are MANY, MANY considerations here... as we have done the same thing at many tower sites: First, make sure you fuse the cable coming out of the UPS to the battery bank. We use 60A and 100A fuses depending on if we use two or four batteries. Second, I HIGHLY recommend sealed AGM

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
George, don't forget the power control and auto ping... http://digital-loggers.com/EPCR2.html Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
Not much effort...about 20 minutes (after you know what you're doing). You take out the internal batteries and drill 2 holes in the case (missing the electronics, of course). I put in grommets where the #10 AWG wires enter the case. The rest is just connectors making the connections. You

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
UPS - $45 on ebay (buy one without batteries) SNMP card - $125 on ebay 2 batteries 2 outdoor battery compartments: $150-$175 (more, depending on battery quality). I get mine at Bimart. misc connectors wire $20 I had one site up for 36 hours with Trango Tlink, small switch, and Tranzeo AP.

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
Oh man that would be nice if they had the capability of doing the battery backup as well. The APC SNMP card gives you e-mail notification (about 145 events if I remember correctly, AND power control (reboot via web/telnet script), but it powers off ALL receptacles and cannot do individuals.

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
$125 for the snmp card? We are buying the ap9606 for $50 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 12,

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
Gino, how does that differ from the ap9617? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Travis Johnson
And now you just created a bidding war on ebay for them... :( Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: $125 for the snmp card? We are buying the ap9606 for $50 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
I don't know Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
I have not told you my source :-) Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Travis Johnson
Just bought 5 of them on ebay for $50 each, including shipping. ;) Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: I have not told you my source :-) Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145

Re: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Mark Nash
Are there any battery-backup systems like the surge-protector-style like http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=21, but with the SNMP card features? This would fit better in an outdoor enclosure. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net

RE: [WISPA] Which UPS to use?

2007-11-12 Thread Gino Villarini
I just bough 50 for $500 with on site delivery by a girl in bikini :-) Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent:

[WISPA] LMR600 Vendor?

2007-11-12 Thread Jason Wallace
Gang, I am looking for some 15' LMR600 cables, N-type males both ends, one end 90°. Anyone know where to find them? Jason Wallace WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

RE: [WISPA] LMR600 Vendor?

2007-11-12 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
I got some from CTI. Didn't have the 90deg connector, but I'm sure that wouldn’t be an issue. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Wallace Sent:

Re: [WISPA] LMR600 Vendor?

2007-11-12 Thread Bob Moldashel
Jason How many do you need. Contact me offlist. I should be able to help you. Bob Moldashel Lakeland Comm [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 12, 2007, at 8:27 PM, Jason Wallace wrote: Gang, I am looking for some 15' LMR600 cables, N-type males both ends, one end 90°. Anyone know where

Re: [WISPA] LMR600 Vendor?

2007-11-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
15' Why bother? Even at 5.8 that's almost nothing in dB difference between that and lmr 400. There's also a new Times Microwave cable that's made just for 5.8 and such. It's REALLY expensive but the loss numbers were amazingly low. Oh yeah, by expensive, think twice or so of lmr600

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH

2007-11-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I'll know in a few months I have a site with Trango now. I'm going to move it to a different local and put VL in this one. I'm looking for more range than I get with the fox-d units. Even with the dish 500 antennas I don't get full speeds at more than 10 miles. And talk about a pita