Sam and Matt, very well said.
To the rest: If you are petitioning the FCC in union with the cable
companies and telcos, you are screwing your future and help your
competition. You can't win by the rules that they make. The network
neutrality battle could potentially change the service provider
I'm glad someone else has the same philosophy I do.
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Mike Hammett
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Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:48 AM
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I'm glad someone else has the same philosophy I do.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Clint Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:48 AM
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Travis,
Are you routing or bridging between between the clients, APs, and your
router? It would probably be worth doing packet captures and actually
seeing what the traffic is. If you are routing between the AP and the
router, then it is very unlikely that your problem is broadcast related.
I have a situation where interference is playing a part in degrading my
signal. I am currently using flat panel 13db antennas. I want to try a
yagi or grid (been looking at Pac-Wireless) to narrow the beam and hope to
overcome this problem. We were fine until the leaves fell off all the
crap, forgot to mention, I am using Canopy 900 APs.
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Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:03 AM
Subject: [WISPA] 900 Grid Vs. Yagi
I have a situation where interference is playing a part in
We have always liked Yagis better than grids. Additionally, we prefer
higher gain (tighter beamwidth) antennas with lower transmit power. Of
course, with 900Mhz is can be tough to get higher gain. Besides going
the parabolic route, which is problematic with 900Mhz; you can look at
using loop
Who has used 3650 in a true PtMP residential customer application? How does it
really work compared to 2.4? Next year I'm putting up 2 more towers and had
planned on 2.4 GHz 90* sectors.
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That's easy to say when you are in an area with thousands of potential
customers ;-)
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Mike Hammett wrote:
Who has used 3650 in a true PtMP residential customer application? How does it
really work compared to 2.4? Next year I'm putting up 2 more towers and had
planned on 2.4 GHz 90* sectors.
As far as I am aware, no one has received a license in 3650 to provide
service to
I'm not buying it.
Yes, we as service providers have a right to determine th service level
agreements we want to set for the price we decide.
A consumer has always believed that they have an unlimited do anything
they want with our connection mentality.
We on the other hand have always had
Behalf Of Russ Kreigh
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A temporary, or transitional step would be to replace the switch with a
Mikrotik, connecting each AP's ethernet into it. And implement port
filters
to prevent ARP between ports.
[Mac says]
I don't think its ARP issues, but I think Russ has an excellent
Marlon, you are pretty rural :) You probably would have a hard time
growing much without heading 500 miles to find a market with more people
than cows :). From what I'd guess from your economics, strict bandwidth
caps may be a good choice for you--but, for people who either are in or have
People have used basically the same gear in 3650 for a couple years now
thanks to experimental licenses. I know of two that have, but I have not
heard their input yet on my latest inquiry.
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I've been a firm believer in that the last mile can shoot themselves in the
foot if they like, but the next company up in the chain must be neutral.
Level 3, ATT, Cogent, Verizon, NTT, etc. should not be doing anything on
their end for their wholesale markets again, if they have retail end
George,
No one is saying that you have to sell $40 10Mb/s pipes at to customers for
them to use full tilt 24x7. Restrict on bandwidth, if you choose. Sell
metered. Put caps on. Why restrict based on content type?
Marlon includes, if I remember, 6GB of data and then charges for overages.
If
Clint Ricker wrote:
No one is saying that you have to sell $40 10Mb/s pipes at to customers for
them to use full tilt 24x7. Restrict on bandwidth, if you choose. Sell
metered. Put caps on. Why restrict based on content type?
Because some content types make customers call and complain, and
The application is very important. If the technology that we had at our
disposal would not be hampered by any application then I could care
less. Your right the more bits and applications for our customers use
the better for us. Unfortunately in most markets the only thing we can
provide
Mike Hammett wrote:
People have used basically the same gear in 3650 for a couple years now
thanks to experimental licenses. I know of two that have, but I have
not heard their input yet on my latest inquiry.
Those of that have using experimental licenses only got to test things
such as
I didn't say trying to partner with 500 WISPs around the country, using
different products.
I was referring to singling out maybe the top 20 candidates nationwide, and
then helping those 20 be all they can be. There are many WISPs that could
take off with jsut a bit of funding. Banks don;t
Reading Covad's narrative rationale for their license, it sounded to me like
they were offering limited commercial service on a limited,
clearly-labeled-as-experimental basis:
The use of limited market studies will permit
equipment testing (like other markets) as well as deployment of limited
Has anybody used one of these with their WISP operations and
care to comment on how well they work, either publicly or privately. We
are looking to purchase one, but would like to make sure they work in
real life situations. The two applications we would like to use them
for are tracking
Matt,
All your points are very good, and I agree with.
The issue with Peer to Peer is that the entity controlling what data gets
transfered is NOT the person that bought the broadband connection.
Most end users aren;t savy enough to even know what impact the peer to peer
software would have
Yes...
But my approach is different. Its not to be a wholesaler or a reseller.
Instead Earthlink takes teh roll of a friendly VentureCapitol
Except they take it one step further...
The WISP is required to Outsource Support, for large projects, to the VC's
support company (Earthlink).
The WISP
Apples an oranges here. We as providers are paying for dedicated bandwidth,
not shared. Shared connections are a different beast altogether, and I
really would assume that's what we're talking about when we go rate-limiting
ANYTHING. Dedicated connections should be able to do whatever they
To All,
The issue of P2P rears its relatively unattractivehead in my neck of the woods
from time to time. This is one of those times.
- So, what is everyone doing to'counter' the influx of traffic from P2P?
- What are the most effective P2P countermeasures that you have employed,
lately?
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Ron, I think this will be answered readily on the members list when asked.
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Behalf Of Ron
If you have an APC SmartUPS 750 XL, you can add APC battery packs. They
even have a UXBP24 that does
Battery Volt-Amp-Hour Capacity 3360
It is definitely more expensive than other batteries, but it does plug
right in
John Thomas
Tom DeReggi wrote:
You also want to use a combination of
I may be wrong, but net neutrality when out a couple of months ago.
There is no more net neutrality.
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I'm not talking about dedicated commercial bandwidth. I'm trying to
distinguish it from a consumer broadband connection.
A consumer internet connection has always had restrictions.
I would like to be able to offer a consumer a connection that allows
P2P, and anything else they may want to do.
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