Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

[Scottie Arnett]

All I can say is OUCH!

-- Original Message --
From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:32:35 -0500

>I am going to launch and I am going to hold others to the interference
>avoidance requirements of the rules. If others come to town after me and
>interfere with me and do not remedy it after I spend several grand to launch
>then they will move or face a day in court. That is what is going to be
>different in my eyes. People have a mandate to behave in this band. I
>genuinely believe this gives a "first in" upper hand in this band. At least
>that is my perception. Others may vary.
>Scriv
>
>
>On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  John,
>>
>> Here is what I have heard or read so far:
>>
>> (1) I "heard" that 3650 users that are conflicting will have to "work it
>> out" and that "more than likely" the FCC would not get involved in a
>> frequency conflict.
>>
>> (2) Getting a license for 3650 takes about 2 hours, start to finish (from
>> what I have heard from people that have done it). Meaning any person with
>> Internet access can have a valid, FCC license in 2 hours.
>>
>> (3) The FCC has already approved someone using just the Ubiquiti XR3 card
>> as the registered "base station". Putting that card in a MT system does not
>> broadcast any call signs or info in the packet frame, yet you are "licensed"
>> and "FCC legal" as per the registration.
>>
>> (4) If it truly is a "first registered, everyone else work around me" then
>> I will be registering every single tower within a 1,000 mile radius from my
>> NOC. :)
>>
>> I'm not trying bash you or anything you said... I'm just thinking the 3650
>> band is going to get just as messy as the 5ghz band within a few years...
>> and I think the FCC has given "false hope" that it is somewhat protected...
>> yet I don't see how.
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>>
>> John Scrivner wrote:
>>
>> Here is how it is different than 5 GHz. In 5 GHz the rules are that you have
>> to accept interference. Also any equipment on earth can use the band from
>> mobile phones to cameras and of course broadband devices of many types.
>> There is little involved in dropping your link. Also there is little chance
>> of you knowing what the interfering source is without some leg work. In 3650
>> only people who get a license can launch. Base stations must be certified
>> systems with the FCC and must be registered with the FCC. The rules state
>> that it is a requirement that anyone using the band must work to eliminate
>> interference with other users. That means if you are there first and someone
>> interferes with you then they broke the law and it is their duty to fix it.
>> Also, since everyone must register base stations, you will know who is
>> interfering. In the case of WiMAX base stations, the call letters of the
>> license holder are actually transmitted in the data frames which show up as
>> the intefering carrier within the monitoring tools in the base stations
>> themselves. I think there is a great opportunity in this band and I am proud
>> to say I just got my license in 3650 last week. I am looking to build my
>> first WiMAX base station very soon.
>> Scriv
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL 
>> PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>  So, how exactly does 3.65ghz licensing work? If Rapid Link has licensed
>> a base station at tower X, and I want to license 3.65ghz at tower X as
>> well, what happens? Also, what if I want to license at Tower Y that is
>> 100 feet away? Is this band really any different than 5ghz, except you
>> have to tell the FCC where your base stations are located?
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Mike Prachar wrote:
>>
>>
>>  -  Atlanta business can now enjoy the only wide-area alternative to AT&T
>> -
>>
>>
>> OMAHA, NE - June 3, 2008 - Rapid Link, Incorporated (OTCBB: RPID), a
>> leading provider of WiMax and Communication Services, announced today
>> the official launch of its much anticipated WiMax service offering in
>> the Atlanta Metropolitan area.
>>
>> Following the soft launch of this service in February 2008, Rapid Link
>> has several active customers enjoying the benefits of this cutting edge
>> technology.  Due to the overwhelming success of the early release
>> through our Channel Partners, Rapid Link is now offering voice and
>> internet service via WiMax to the commercial public.
>>
>> Operating in the licensed-only 3650 MHz spectrum, customers can now
>> enjoy guaranteed high speed connectivity, voice and internet bundled
>> service, at the best cost/efficiency ratio in the industry.
>>
>> Matt Liotta, Chief Technology Officer of Rapid Link states, "We are
>> clearly ahead of the competition and the technology power curve with
>> this offering.  Customers are increasingly discovering the limitations
>> of antiquated technologies.  Following the recent release of

[WISPA] THANK YOU!!!!

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Wow, thanks guys.  I didn't even know I'd been nominated.

To be thought of as a benefit to the entire industry is the greatest 
possible compliment y'all could possibly have given me!

http://odessaoffice.com/wireless/wispa_award.jpg

Thanks again,
marlon 




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Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] LMR-400 LMR-600 Equivalent (and stuff)

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Here are the frequencies used.
http://discountcablesusa.com/ethernetcables.html

As for the speeds etc.  I've heard that a few times before.  Tell you what, 
work out a speed test in whatever way you'd like to.  Run your test.  Now 
tie the cable in a tight knot.

I tried that, no change in speed.

As for the disruption of the twist rates, ever look at what a connector 
does?  grin

I'm sure that some results could be seen in the lab.  In the real world, 
with MILES of cat5 installed in just the last few years I've seen a lot of 
things effect speeds on my customers systems.  Cat5 kinks haven't been one 
of them.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Roger 
(K8RI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; "Nusrat Jamal" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] LMR-400 LMR-600 Equivalent (and stuff)


> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 09:21:36 -0700, Marlon K. Schafer \(509\) 982-2181
> wrote:
>
>>"kinking" cat 5 doesn't hurt anything unless you mess up the insulation in
>>the process.
>
> WRONG!  Ethernet traffic is broadband data, with components well into the
> tens of MHz. CAT5 cable is four parallel transmission lines with twist
> ratios that are offset from each other to minimize crosstalk from one pair
> to another. Kinking puts discontinuities in the cable, which can degrade
> the data waveform. It can also degrade noise immunity and crosstalk, and
> increase leakage from the cable (to your radio). You may not notice the
> data degradation, because Ethernet includes error correction and re-sends
> when data is corrupted. The effect is slower data exchange.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim Brown K9YC
>
>
> ___
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

[Travis Johnson]

Yup... and it's only because they can... they are getting the "big" 
operators to pay that kind of money, so they will keep selling at those 
prices. Supply and demand... but you can build a MT 3.65ghz CPE for less 
than $400, but it's still expensive compared to all the other frequencies.

Travis
Microserv

Mike Hammett wrote:
> Yeah, I think I'm going to be passing on 3650 until something cheaper comes 
> along.  Ubiquiti has the XR3, but that's still a $260 mPCI card when I 
> normally spend $35.  There's also no RooTennas, so I have to go with a more 
> expensive solution... I think I figured $500 for a CPE instead of the $150 I 
> pay now.  I don't expect to pay $150 for a WiMAX CPE or $750 for a WiMAX AP, 
> but the prices these guys are asking is ridiculous.
>
>
> --
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Travis Johnson 
>   To: WISPA General List 
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:01 PM
>   Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta
>
>
>   Maybe they are trying to get enough new business to pay for $7,000 
> basestations? :)
>
>   Travis
>   Microserv
>
>   Mike Hammett wrote: 
> and I thought they already posted this or a similar press release a time or 
> two.
>
>
> --
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta
>
>
>   I thought you were One ring ...
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mike Prachar
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:37 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta
> Importance: High
>
> -  Atlanta business can now enjoy the only wide-area alternative to AT&T
> -
>
>
> OMAHA, NE - June 3, 2008 - Rapid Link, Incorporated (OTCBB: RPID), a
> leading provider of WiMax and Communication Services, announced today
> the official launch of its much anticipated WiMax service offering in
> the Atlanta Metropolitan area.
>
> Following the soft launch of this service in February 2008, Rapid Link
> has several active customers enjoying the benefits of this cutting edge
> technology.  Due to the overwhelming success of the early release
> through our Channel Partners, Rapid Link is now offering voice and
> internet service via WiMax to the commercial public.
>
> Operating in the licensed-only 3650 MHz spectrum, customers can now
> enjoy guaranteed high speed connectivity, voice and internet bundled
> service, at the best cost/efficiency ratio in the industry.
>
> Matt Liotta, Chief Technology Officer of Rapid Link states, "We are
> clearly ahead of the competition and the technology power curve with
> this offering.  Customers are increasingly discovering the limitations
> of antiquated technologies.  Following the recent release of WiMax
> technologies and equipment in the United States, Rapid link is proud to
> be a licensed WiMax carrier offering this breakthrough service to our
> foundation of customers in the greater Atlanta area."
>
>
> About Rapid Link
>
> Rapid Link, Incorporated is a Diversified Communication Services
> company, supplying bundled internet and voice services to Business and
> Residential customers. Rapid Link offers broadband access via its own
> facilities to ensure fast and reliable delivery of its content. As a
> leading licensed WiMAX carrier, Rapid Link is on the cutting edge of
> this exciting new technology. We are one of the only carriers that can
> offer an end-to-end solution for our customers without a dependency on
> any other company's resources.
>
> For more information, visit www.rapidlink.com.
>
> "Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform
> Act of 1995: With the exception of historical information, the
> statements set forth above include forward-looking statements that
> involve risk and uncertainties. The Company wishes to caution readers
> that a number of important factors could cause actual results to differ
> materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Those factors
> include, but are not limited to, risks and uncertainties such as the
> failure to satisfy contractually agreed upon closing conditions that may
> delay or prevent the closings of subsequent debt financings contemplated
> by the applicable agreements; the risk factors noted in the Company's
> filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission, such
> as the trading price of the Company's common stock reaching levels that
> would cause funding to occur; the rapidly changing nature of technology,
> evolving industry standards and frequent introductio

Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

[Mike Hammett]

Yeah, I think I'm going to be passing on 3650 until something cheaper comes 
along.  Ubiquiti has the XR3, but that's still a $260 mPCI card when I normally 
spend $35.  There's also no RooTennas, so I have to go with a more expensive 
solution... I think I figured $500 for a CPE instead of the $150 I pay now.  I 
don't expect to pay $150 for a WiMAX CPE or $750 for a WiMAX AP, but the prices 
these guys are asking is ridiculous.


--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


  - Original Message - 
  From: Travis Johnson 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta


  Maybe they are trying to get enough new business to pay for $7,000 
basestations? :)

  Travis
  Microserv

  Mike Hammett wrote: 
and I thought they already posted this or a similar press release a time or 
two.


--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta


  I thought you were One ring ...

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Prachar
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta
Importance: High

-  Atlanta business can now enjoy the only wide-area alternative to AT&T
-


OMAHA, NE - June 3, 2008 - Rapid Link, Incorporated (OTCBB: RPID), a
leading provider of WiMax and Communication Services, announced today
the official launch of its much anticipated WiMax service offering in
the Atlanta Metropolitan area.

Following the soft launch of this service in February 2008, Rapid Link
has several active customers enjoying the benefits of this cutting edge
technology.  Due to the overwhelming success of the early release
through our Channel Partners, Rapid Link is now offering voice and
internet service via WiMax to the commercial public.

Operating in the licensed-only 3650 MHz spectrum, customers can now
enjoy guaranteed high speed connectivity, voice and internet bundled
service, at the best cost/efficiency ratio in the industry.

Matt Liotta, Chief Technology Officer of Rapid Link states, "We are
clearly ahead of the competition and the technology power curve with
this offering.  Customers are increasingly discovering the limitations
of antiquated technologies.  Following the recent release of WiMax
technologies and equipment in the United States, Rapid link is proud to
be a licensed WiMax carrier offering this breakthrough service to our
foundation of customers in the greater Atlanta area."


About Rapid Link

Rapid Link, Incorporated is a Diversified Communication Services
company, supplying bundled internet and voice services to Business and
Residential customers. Rapid Link offers broadband access via its own
facilities to ensure fast and reliable delivery of its content. As a
leading licensed WiMAX carrier, Rapid Link is on the cutting edge of
this exciting new technology. We are one of the only carriers that can
offer an end-to-end solution for our customers without a dependency on
any other company's resources.

For more information, visit www.rapidlink.com.

"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform
Act of 1995: With the exception of historical information, the
statements set forth above include forward-looking statements that
involve risk and uncertainties. The Company wishes to caution readers
that a number of important factors could cause actual results to differ
materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Those factors
include, but are not limited to, risks and uncertainties such as the
failure to satisfy contractually agreed upon closing conditions that may
delay or prevent the closings of subsequent debt financings contemplated
by the applicable agreements; the risk factors noted in the Company's
filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission, such
as the trading price of the Company's common stock reaching levels that
would cause funding to occur; the rapidly changing nature of technology,
evolving industry standards and frequent introductions of new products,
services and enhancements by competitors; the competitive nature of the
markets for the Company's products and services; the Company's ability
to gain market acceptance for its products and services; the Company's
ability to fund its operational growth; the Company's ability to attract
and retain skilled personnel; the Company's ability to diversify its
revenue streams and customer concentrations; and the Company's reliance
on third-party suppliers.

Contact:
Investor Relations
Rapid Link, Inc.
Tel.:  402-39

Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

[Travis Johnson]

Maybe they are trying to get enough new business to pay for $7,000
basestations? :)

Travis
Microserv

Mike Hammett wrote:

  and I thought they already posted this or a similar press release a time or 
two.


--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta


  
  
I thought you were One ring ...

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Mike Prachar
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta
Importance: High

-  Atlanta business can now enjoy the only wide-area alternative to AT&T
-


OMAHA, NE - June 3, 2008 - Rapid Link, Incorporated (OTCBB: RPID), a
leading provider of WiMax and Communication Services, announced today
the official launch of its much anticipated WiMax service offering in
the Atlanta Metropolitan area.

Following the soft launch of this service in February 2008, Rapid Link
has several active customers enjoying the benefits of this cutting edge
technology.  Due to the overwhelming success of the early release
through our Channel Partners, Rapid Link is now offering voice and
internet service via WiMax to the commercial public.

Operating in the licensed-only 3650 MHz spectrum, customers can now
enjoy guaranteed high speed connectivity, voice and internet bundled
service, at the best cost/efficiency ratio in the industry.

Matt Liotta, Chief Technology Officer of Rapid Link states, "We are
clearly ahead of the competition and the technology power curve with
this offering.  Customers are increasingly discovering the limitations
of antiquated technologies.  Following the recent release of WiMax
technologies and equipment in the United States, Rapid link is proud to
be a licensed WiMax carrier offering this breakthrough service to our
foundation of customers in the greater Atlanta area."


About Rapid Link

Rapid Link, Incorporated is a Diversified Communication Services
company, supplying bundled internet and voice services to Business and
Residential customers. Rapid Link offers broadband access via its own
facilities to ensure fast and reliable delivery of its content. As a
leading licensed WiMAX carrier, Rapid Link is on the cutting edge of
this exciting new technology. We are one of the only carriers that can
offer an end-to-end solution for our customers without a dependency on
any other company's resources.

For more information, visit www.rapidlink.com.

"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform
Act of 1995: With the exception of historical information, the
statements set forth above include forward-looking statements that
involve risk and uncertainties. The Company wishes to caution readers
that a number of important factors could cause actual results to differ
materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Those factors
include, but are not limited to, risks and uncertainties such as the
failure to satisfy contractually agreed upon closing conditions that may
delay or prevent the closings of subsequent debt financings contemplated
by the applicable agreements; the risk factors noted in the Company's
filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission, such
as the trading price of the Company's common stock reaching levels that
would cause funding to occur; the rapidly changing nature of technology,
evolving industry standards and frequent introductions of new products,
services and enhancements by competitors; the competitive nature of the
markets for the Company's products and services; the Company's ability
to gain market acceptance for its products and services; the Company's
ability to fund its operational growth; the Company's ability to attract
and retain skilled personnel; the Company's ability to diversify its
revenue streams and customer concentrations; and the Company's reliance
on third-party suppliers.

Contact:
Investor Relations
Rapid Link, Inc.
Tel.:  402-392-7561





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Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

[Mike Hammett]

and I thought they already posted this or a similar press release a time or 
two.


--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


- Original Message - 
From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta


>I thought you were One ring ...
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mike Prachar
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:37 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta
> Importance: High
>
> -  Atlanta business can now enjoy the only wide-area alternative to AT&T
> -
>
>
> OMAHA, NE - June 3, 2008 - Rapid Link, Incorporated (OTCBB: RPID), a
> leading provider of WiMax and Communication Services, announced today
> the official launch of its much anticipated WiMax service offering in
> the Atlanta Metropolitan area.
>
> Following the soft launch of this service in February 2008, Rapid Link
> has several active customers enjoying the benefits of this cutting edge
> technology.  Due to the overwhelming success of the early release
> through our Channel Partners, Rapid Link is now offering voice and
> internet service via WiMax to the commercial public.
>
> Operating in the licensed-only 3650 MHz spectrum, customers can now
> enjoy guaranteed high speed connectivity, voice and internet bundled
> service, at the best cost/efficiency ratio in the industry.
>
> Matt Liotta, Chief Technology Officer of Rapid Link states, "We are
> clearly ahead of the competition and the technology power curve with
> this offering.  Customers are increasingly discovering the limitations
> of antiquated technologies.  Following the recent release of WiMax
> technologies and equipment in the United States, Rapid link is proud to
> be a licensed WiMax carrier offering this breakthrough service to our
> foundation of customers in the greater Atlanta area."
>
>
> About Rapid Link
>
> Rapid Link, Incorporated is a Diversified Communication Services
> company, supplying bundled internet and voice services to Business and
> Residential customers. Rapid Link offers broadband access via its own
> facilities to ensure fast and reliable delivery of its content. As a
> leading licensed WiMAX carrier, Rapid Link is on the cutting edge of
> this exciting new technology. We are one of the only carriers that can
> offer an end-to-end solution for our customers without a dependency on
> any other company's resources.
>
> For more information, visit www.rapidlink.com.
>
> "Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform
> Act of 1995: With the exception of historical information, the
> statements set forth above include forward-looking statements that
> involve risk and uncertainties. The Company wishes to caution readers
> that a number of important factors could cause actual results to differ
> materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Those factors
> include, but are not limited to, risks and uncertainties such as the
> failure to satisfy contractually agreed upon closing conditions that may
> delay or prevent the closings of subsequent debt financings contemplated
> by the applicable agreements; the risk factors noted in the Company's
> filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission, such
> as the trading price of the Company's common stock reaching levels that
> would cause funding to occur; the rapidly changing nature of technology,
> evolving industry standards and frequent introductions of new products,
> services and enhancements by competitors; the competitive nature of the
> markets for the Company's products and services; the Company's ability
> to gain market acceptance for its products and services; the Company's
> ability to fund its operational growth; the Company's ability to attract
> and retain skilled personnel; the Company's ability to diversify its
> revenue streams and customer concentrations; and the Company's reliance
> on third-party suppliers.
>
> Contact:
> Investor Relations
> Rapid Link, Inc.
> Tel.:  402-392-7561
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

[John Scrivner]

I am going to launch and I am going to hold others to the interference
avoidance requirements of the rules. If others come to town after me and
interfere with me and do not remedy it after I spend several grand to launch
then they will move or face a day in court. That is what is going to be
different in my eyes. People have a mandate to behave in this band. I
genuinely believe this gives a "first in" upper hand in this band. At least
that is my perception. Others may vary.
Scriv


On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  John,
>
> Here is what I have heard or read so far:
>
> (1) I "heard" that 3650 users that are conflicting will have to "work it
> out" and that "more than likely" the FCC would not get involved in a
> frequency conflict.
>
> (2) Getting a license for 3650 takes about 2 hours, start to finish (from
> what I have heard from people that have done it). Meaning any person with
> Internet access can have a valid, FCC license in 2 hours.
>
> (3) The FCC has already approved someone using just the Ubiquiti XR3 card
> as the registered "base station". Putting that card in a MT system does not
> broadcast any call signs or info in the packet frame, yet you are "licensed"
> and "FCC legal" as per the registration.
>
> (4) If it truly is a "first registered, everyone else work around me" then
> I will be registering every single tower within a 1,000 mile radius from my
> NOC. :)
>
> I'm not trying bash you or anything you said... I'm just thinking the 3650
> band is going to get just as messy as the 5ghz band within a few years...
> and I think the FCC has given "false hope" that it is somewhat protected...
> yet I don't see how.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
> John Scrivner wrote:
>
> Here is how it is different than 5 GHz. In 5 GHz the rules are that you have
> to accept interference. Also any equipment on earth can use the band from
> mobile phones to cameras and of course broadband devices of many types.
> There is little involved in dropping your link. Also there is little chance
> of you knowing what the interfering source is without some leg work. In 3650
> only people who get a license can launch. Base stations must be certified
> systems with the FCC and must be registered with the FCC. The rules state
> that it is a requirement that anyone using the band must work to eliminate
> interference with other users. That means if you are there first and someone
> interferes with you then they broke the law and it is their duty to fix it.
> Also, since everyone must register base stations, you will know who is
> interfering. In the case of WiMAX base stations, the call letters of the
> license holder are actually transmitted in the data frames which show up as
> the intefering carrier within the monitoring tools in the base stations
> themselves. I think there is a great opportunity in this band and I am proud
> to say I just got my license in 3650 last week. I am looking to build my
> first WiMAX base station very soon.
> Scriv
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>  So, how exactly does 3.65ghz licensing work? If Rapid Link has licensed
> a base station at tower X, and I want to license 3.65ghz at tower X as
> well, what happens? Also, what if I want to license at Tower Y that is
> 100 feet away? Is this band really any different than 5ghz, except you
> have to tell the FCC where your base stations are located?
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Mike Prachar wrote:
>
>
>  -  Atlanta business can now enjoy the only wide-area alternative to AT&T
> -
>
>
> OMAHA, NE - June 3, 2008 - Rapid Link, Incorporated (OTCBB: RPID), a
> leading provider of WiMax and Communication Services, announced today
> the official launch of its much anticipated WiMax service offering in
> the Atlanta Metropolitan area.
>
> Following the soft launch of this service in February 2008, Rapid Link
> has several active customers enjoying the benefits of this cutting edge
> technology.  Due to the overwhelming success of the early release
> through our Channel Partners, Rapid Link is now offering voice and
> internet service via WiMax to the commercial public.
>
> Operating in the licensed-only 3650 MHz spectrum, customers can now
> enjoy guaranteed high speed connectivity, voice and internet bundled
> service, at the best cost/efficiency ratio in the industry.
>
> Matt Liotta, Chief Technology Officer of Rapid Link states, "We are
> clearly ahead of the competition and the technology power curve with
> this offering.  Customers are increasingly discovering the limitations
> of antiquated technologies.  Following the recent release of WiMax
> technologies and equipment in the United States, Rapid link is proud to
> be a licensed WiMax carrier offering this breakthrough service to our
> foundation of customers in the greater Atlanta area."
>
>
> About Rapid Link
>
> Rapid Link, Incorporated is a Diversified Communication Services
>

Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

[Travis Johnson]

John,

Here is what I have heard or read so far:

(1) I "heard" that 3650 users that are conflicting will have to "work
it out" and that "more than likely" the FCC would not get involved in a
frequency conflict.

(2) Getting a license for 3650 takes about 2 hours, start to finish
(from what I have heard from people that have done it). Meaning any
person with Internet access can have a valid, FCC license in 2 hours.

(3) The FCC has already approved someone using just the Ubiquiti XR3
card as the registered "base station". Putting that card in a MT system
does not broadcast any call signs or info in the packet frame, yet you
are "licensed" and "FCC legal" as per the registration.

(4) If it truly is a "first registered, everyone else work around me"
then I will be registering every single tower within a 1,000 mile
radius from my NOC. :)

I'm not trying bash you or anything you said... I'm just thinking the
3650 band is going to get just as messy as the 5ghz band within a few
years... and I think the FCC has given "false hope" that it is somewhat
protected... yet I don't see how.

Travis
Microserv

John Scrivner wrote:

  Here is how it is different than 5 GHz. In 5 GHz the rules are that you have
to accept interference. Also any equipment on earth can use the band from
mobile phones to cameras and of course broadband devices of many types.
There is little involved in dropping your link. Also there is little chance
of you knowing what the interfering source is without some leg work. In 3650
only people who get a license can launch. Base stations must be certified
systems with the FCC and must be registered with the FCC. The rules state
that it is a requirement that anyone using the band must work to eliminate
interference with other users. That means if you are there first and someone
interferes with you then they broke the law and it is their duty to fix it.
Also, since everyone must register base stations, you will know who is
interfering. In the case of WiMAX base stations, the call letters of the
license holder are actually transmitted in the data frames which show up as
the intefering carrier within the monitoring tools in the base stations
themselves. I think there is a great opportunity in this band and I am proud
to say I just got my license in 3650 last week. I am looking to build my
first WiMAX base station very soon.
Scriv


On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  
So, how exactly does 3.65ghz licensing work? If Rapid Link has licensed
a base station at tower X, and I want to license 3.65ghz at tower X as
well, what happens? Also, what if I want to license at Tower Y that is
100 feet away? Is this band really any different than 5ghz, except you
have to tell the FCC where your base stations are located?

Travis
Microserv

Mike Prachar wrote:


  -  Atlanta business can now enjoy the only wide-area alternative to AT&T
-


OMAHA, NE - June 3, 2008 - Rapid Link, Incorporated (OTCBB: RPID), a
leading provider of WiMax and Communication Services, announced today
the official launch of its much anticipated WiMax service offering in
the Atlanta Metropolitan area.

Following the soft launch of this service in February 2008, Rapid Link
has several active customers enjoying the benefits of this cutting edge
technology.  Due to the overwhelming success of the early release
through our Channel Partners, Rapid Link is now offering voice and
internet service via WiMax to the commercial public.

Operating in the licensed-only 3650 MHz spectrum, customers can now
enjoy guaranteed high speed connectivity, voice and internet bundled
service, at the best cost/efficiency ratio in the industry.

Matt Liotta, Chief Technology Officer of Rapid Link states, "We are
clearly ahead of the competition and the technology power curve with
this offering.  Customers are increasingly discovering the limitations
of antiquated technologies.  Following the recent release of WiMax
technologies and equipment in the United States, Rapid link is proud to
be a licensed WiMax carrier offering this breakthrough service to our
foundation of customers in the greater Atlanta area."


About Rapid Link

Rapid Link, Incorporated is a Diversified Communication Services
company, supplying bundled internet and voice services to Business and
Residential customers. Rapid Link offers broadband access via its own
facilities to ensure fast and reliable delivery of its content. As a
leading licensed WiMAX carrier, Rapid Link is on the cutting edge of
this exciting new technology. We are one of the only carriers that can
offer an end-to-end solution for our customers without a dependency on
any other company's resources.

For more information, visit www.rapidlink.com.

"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform
Act of 1995: With the exception of historical information, the
statements set forth above include forward-looking statements that
involve risk and uncertainties.

Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

[Gino Villarini]

I thought you were One ring ...

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

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Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:37 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta
Importance: High

-  Atlanta business can now enjoy the only wide-area alternative to AT&T
-


OMAHA, NE - June 3, 2008 - Rapid Link, Incorporated (OTCBB: RPID), a
leading provider of WiMax and Communication Services, announced today
the official launch of its much anticipated WiMax service offering in
the Atlanta Metropolitan area.

Following the soft launch of this service in February 2008, Rapid Link
has several active customers enjoying the benefits of this cutting edge
technology.  Due to the overwhelming success of the early release
through our Channel Partners, Rapid Link is now offering voice and
internet service via WiMax to the commercial public.

Operating in the licensed-only 3650 MHz spectrum, customers can now
enjoy guaranteed high speed connectivity, voice and internet bundled
service, at the best cost/efficiency ratio in the industry.

Matt Liotta, Chief Technology Officer of Rapid Link states, "We are
clearly ahead of the competition and the technology power curve with
this offering.  Customers are increasingly discovering the limitations
of antiquated technologies.  Following the recent release of WiMax
technologies and equipment in the United States, Rapid link is proud to
be a licensed WiMax carrier offering this breakthrough service to our
foundation of customers in the greater Atlanta area."


About Rapid Link

Rapid Link, Incorporated is a Diversified Communication Services
company, supplying bundled internet and voice services to Business and
Residential customers. Rapid Link offers broadband access via its own
facilities to ensure fast and reliable delivery of its content. As a
leading licensed WiMAX carrier, Rapid Link is on the cutting edge of
this exciting new technology. We are one of the only carriers that can
offer an end-to-end solution for our customers without a dependency on
any other company's resources. 

For more information, visit www.rapidlink.com.

"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform
Act of 1995: With the exception of historical information, the
statements set forth above include forward-looking statements that
involve risk and uncertainties. The Company wishes to caution readers
that a number of important factors could cause actual results to differ
materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Those factors
include, but are not limited to, risks and uncertainties such as the
failure to satisfy contractually agreed upon closing conditions that may
delay or prevent the closings of subsequent debt financings contemplated
by the applicable agreements; the risk factors noted in the Company's
filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission, such
as the trading price of the Company's common stock reaching levels that
would cause funding to occur; the rapidly changing nature of technology,
evolving industry standards and frequent introductions of new products,
services and enhancements by competitors; the competitive nature of the
markets for the Company's products and services; the Company's ability
to gain market acceptance for its products and services; the Company's
ability to fund its operational growth; the Company's ability to attract
and retain skilled personnel; the Company's ability to diversify its
revenue streams and customer concentrations; and the Company's reliance
on third-party suppliers.

Contact:
Investor Relations
Rapid Link, Inc.
Tel.:  402-392-7561





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Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

[John Scrivner]

Here is how it is different than 5 GHz. In 5 GHz the rules are that you have
to accept interference. Also any equipment on earth can use the band from
mobile phones to cameras and of course broadband devices of many types.
There is little involved in dropping your link. Also there is little chance
of you knowing what the interfering source is without some leg work. In 3650
only people who get a license can launch. Base stations must be certified
systems with the FCC and must be registered with the FCC. The rules state
that it is a requirement that anyone using the band must work to eliminate
interference with other users. That means if you are there first and someone
interferes with you then they broke the law and it is their duty to fix it.
Also, since everyone must register base stations, you will know who is
interfering. In the case of WiMAX base stations, the call letters of the
license holder are actually transmitted in the data frames which show up as
the intefering carrier within the monitoring tools in the base stations
themselves. I think there is a great opportunity in this band and I am proud
to say I just got my license in 3650 last week. I am looking to build my
first WiMAX base station very soon.
Scriv


On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So, how exactly does 3.65ghz licensing work? If Rapid Link has licensed
> a base station at tower X, and I want to license 3.65ghz at tower X as
> well, what happens? Also, what if I want to license at Tower Y that is
> 100 feet away? Is this band really any different than 5ghz, except you
> have to tell the FCC where your base stations are located?
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Mike Prachar wrote:
> > -  Atlanta business can now enjoy the only wide-area alternative to AT&T
> > -
> >
> >
> > OMAHA, NE - June 3, 2008 - Rapid Link, Incorporated (OTCBB: RPID), a
> > leading provider of WiMax and Communication Services, announced today
> > the official launch of its much anticipated WiMax service offering in
> > the Atlanta Metropolitan area.
> >
> > Following the soft launch of this service in February 2008, Rapid Link
> > has several active customers enjoying the benefits of this cutting edge
> > technology.  Due to the overwhelming success of the early release
> > through our Channel Partners, Rapid Link is now offering voice and
> > internet service via WiMax to the commercial public.
> >
> > Operating in the licensed-only 3650 MHz spectrum, customers can now
> > enjoy guaranteed high speed connectivity, voice and internet bundled
> > service, at the best cost/efficiency ratio in the industry.
> >
> > Matt Liotta, Chief Technology Officer of Rapid Link states, "We are
> > clearly ahead of the competition and the technology power curve with
> > this offering.  Customers are increasingly discovering the limitations
> > of antiquated technologies.  Following the recent release of WiMax
> > technologies and equipment in the United States, Rapid link is proud to
> > be a licensed WiMax carrier offering this breakthrough service to our
> > foundation of customers in the greater Atlanta area."
> >
> >
> > About Rapid Link
> >
> > Rapid Link, Incorporated is a Diversified Communication Services
> > company, supplying bundled internet and voice services to Business and
> > Residential customers. Rapid Link offers broadband access via its own
> > facilities to ensure fast and reliable delivery of its content. As a
> > leading licensed WiMAX carrier, Rapid Link is on the cutting edge of
> > this exciting new technology. We are one of the only carriers that can
> > offer an end-to-end solution for our customers without a dependency on
> > any other company's resources.
> >
> > For more information, visit www.rapidlink.com.
> >
> > "Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform
> > Act of 1995: With the exception of historical information, the
> > statements set forth above include forward-looking statements that
> > involve risk and uncertainties. The Company wishes to caution readers
> > that a number of important factors could cause actual results to differ
> > materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Those factors
> > include, but are not limited to, risks and uncertainties such as the
> > failure to satisfy contractually agreed upon closing conditions that may
> > delay or prevent the closings of subsequent debt financings contemplated
> > by the applicable agreements; the risk factors noted in the Company's
> > filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission, such
> > as the trading price of the Company's common stock reaching levels that
> > would cause funding to occur; the rapidly changing nature of technology,
> > evolving industry standards and frequent introductions of new products,
> > services and enhancements by competitors; the competitive nature of the
> > markets for the Company's products and services; the Company's ability
> > to gain market acceptance for

Re: [WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

[Travis Johnson]

So, how exactly does 3.65ghz licensing work? If Rapid Link has licensed 
a base station at tower X, and I want to license 3.65ghz at tower X as 
well, what happens? Also, what if I want to license at Tower Y that is 
100 feet away? Is this band really any different than 5ghz, except you 
have to tell the FCC where your base stations are located?

Travis
Microserv

Mike Prachar wrote:
> -  Atlanta business can now enjoy the only wide-area alternative to AT&T
> -
>
>
> OMAHA, NE - June 3, 2008 - Rapid Link, Incorporated (OTCBB: RPID), a
> leading provider of WiMax and Communication Services, announced today
> the official launch of its much anticipated WiMax service offering in
> the Atlanta Metropolitan area.
>
> Following the soft launch of this service in February 2008, Rapid Link
> has several active customers enjoying the benefits of this cutting edge
> technology.  Due to the overwhelming success of the early release
> through our Channel Partners, Rapid Link is now offering voice and
> internet service via WiMax to the commercial public.
>
> Operating in the licensed-only 3650 MHz spectrum, customers can now
> enjoy guaranteed high speed connectivity, voice and internet bundled
> service, at the best cost/efficiency ratio in the industry.
>
> Matt Liotta, Chief Technology Officer of Rapid Link states, "We are
> clearly ahead of the competition and the technology power curve with
> this offering.  Customers are increasingly discovering the limitations
> of antiquated technologies.  Following the recent release of WiMax
> technologies and equipment in the United States, Rapid link is proud to
> be a licensed WiMax carrier offering this breakthrough service to our
> foundation of customers in the greater Atlanta area."
>
>
> About Rapid Link
>
> Rapid Link, Incorporated is a Diversified Communication Services
> company, supplying bundled internet and voice services to Business and
> Residential customers. Rapid Link offers broadband access via its own
> facilities to ensure fast and reliable delivery of its content. As a
> leading licensed WiMAX carrier, Rapid Link is on the cutting edge of
> this exciting new technology. We are one of the only carriers that can
> offer an end-to-end solution for our customers without a dependency on
> any other company's resources. 
>
> For more information, visit www.rapidlink.com.
>
> "Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform
> Act of 1995: With the exception of historical information, the
> statements set forth above include forward-looking statements that
> involve risk and uncertainties. The Company wishes to caution readers
> that a number of important factors could cause actual results to differ
> materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Those factors
> include, but are not limited to, risks and uncertainties such as the
> failure to satisfy contractually agreed upon closing conditions that may
> delay or prevent the closings of subsequent debt financings contemplated
> by the applicable agreements; the risk factors noted in the Company's
> filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission, such
> as the trading price of the Company's common stock reaching levels that
> would cause funding to occur; the rapidly changing nature of technology,
> evolving industry standards and frequent introductions of new products,
> services and enhancements by competitors; the competitive nature of the
> markets for the Company's products and services; the Company's ability
> to gain market acceptance for its products and services; the Company's
> ability to fund its operational growth; the Company's ability to attract
> and retain skilled personnel; the Company's ability to diversify its
> revenue streams and customer concentrations; and the Company's reliance
> on third-party suppliers.
>
> Contact:
> Investor Relations
> Rapid Link, Inc.
> Tel.:  402-392-7561
>
>
>
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[WISPA] Rapid Link Launches WiMax Service in Atlanta

[Mike Prachar]

-  Atlanta business can now enjoy the only wide-area alternative to AT&T
-


OMAHA, NE - June 3, 2008 - Rapid Link, Incorporated (OTCBB: RPID), a
leading provider of WiMax and Communication Services, announced today
the official launch of its much anticipated WiMax service offering in
the Atlanta Metropolitan area.

Following the soft launch of this service in February 2008, Rapid Link
has several active customers enjoying the benefits of this cutting edge
technology.  Due to the overwhelming success of the early release
through our Channel Partners, Rapid Link is now offering voice and
internet service via WiMax to the commercial public.

Operating in the licensed-only 3650 MHz spectrum, customers can now
enjoy guaranteed high speed connectivity, voice and internet bundled
service, at the best cost/efficiency ratio in the industry.

Matt Liotta, Chief Technology Officer of Rapid Link states, "We are
clearly ahead of the competition and the technology power curve with
this offering.  Customers are increasingly discovering the limitations
of antiquated technologies.  Following the recent release of WiMax
technologies and equipment in the United States, Rapid link is proud to
be a licensed WiMax carrier offering this breakthrough service to our
foundation of customers in the greater Atlanta area."


About Rapid Link

Rapid Link, Incorporated is a Diversified Communication Services
company, supplying bundled internet and voice services to Business and
Residential customers. Rapid Link offers broadband access via its own
facilities to ensure fast and reliable delivery of its content. As a
leading licensed WiMAX carrier, Rapid Link is on the cutting edge of
this exciting new technology. We are one of the only carriers that can
offer an end-to-end solution for our customers without a dependency on
any other company's resources. 

For more information, visit www.rapidlink.com.

"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform
Act of 1995: With the exception of historical information, the
statements set forth above include forward-looking statements that
involve risk and uncertainties. The Company wishes to caution readers
that a number of important factors could cause actual results to differ
materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Those factors
include, but are not limited to, risks and uncertainties such as the
failure to satisfy contractually agreed upon closing conditions that may
delay or prevent the closings of subsequent debt financings contemplated
by the applicable agreements; the risk factors noted in the Company's
filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission, such
as the trading price of the Company's common stock reaching levels that
would cause funding to occur; the rapidly changing nature of technology,
evolving industry standards and frequent introductions of new products,
services and enhancements by competitors; the competitive nature of the
markets for the Company's products and services; the Company's ability
to gain market acceptance for its products and services; the Company's
ability to fund its operational growth; the Company's ability to attract
and retain skilled personnel; the Company's ability to diversify its
revenue streams and customer concentrations; and the Company's reliance
on third-party suppliers.

Contact:
Investor Relations
Rapid Link, Inc.
Tel.:  402-392-7561




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[WISPA] Verizon DSL

[Steve Barnes]

Our local ILEC is Verizon. No other DSL option. Wireless is going great but
in town I want more options.  Is there a more profitable way to resell
Verizon Dry-loop DSL in Indiana.  The only setup I have found is Ikano @ $31
/month.  Not very competitive with Verizon @ $29.00.  Plus I have to buy the
modem.  Just looking for more options.

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Re: [WISPA] ubiquiti Nano and Power stations

[Brian Rohrbacher]

I just got a 5 pack at Streakwave for $139.  PS2

Jim Patient wrote:

  We have PS2-17D in stock at $155.

Jim
314-565-6863

Japhy Bartlett wrote:
  
  
Does anybody have a nanostation2 or a powerstation2 in stock - or a
used one lying around?

Just trying to buy one to test ranges in the real world.  Apparently
they are backordered everywhere?

Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] ubiquiti Nano and Power stations

[Jim Patient]

We have PS2-17D in stock at $155.

Jim
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Japhy Bartlett wrote:
> Does anybody have a nanostation2 or a powerstation2 in stock - or a
> used one lying around?
>
> Just trying to buy one to test ranges in the real world.  Apparently
> they are backordered everywhere?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Japhy
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Re: [WISPA] 'family friendly' isp filtering solutions

[Sam Tetherow]

IANAL, but how could you offer spam or virus filtering and not be able 
to offer other types of filtering.  As long as you spell out in your 
terms for the service that it is not 100% and that you are not 
responsible if something does slip through I don't see how you could be 
financially responsible for harm.  Hmm, that brings up a good question, 
does anyone have a terms of service on their email filtering?

Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless



David E. Smith wrote:
> Travis Johnson wrote:
>   
>> Sorry to be coming in late on this thread... are we talking about 
>> content filtering? Like not allowing playboy.com to people that want 
>> that type service? If so, we have been doing that for over 5 years. 
>> Schools, libraries, government agencies, residential users, etc. all pay 
>> "extra" (from $1/month to $100/month depending on number of users and load).
>> 
>
> That's exactly what we're talking about - I'm specifically concerned 
> about the legal implications of an ISP offering it, not whether it's 
> fiscally viable. (That's pretty much a given - something like 
> DansGuardian and some clever firewalling/routing voodoo can be set up 
> for virtually no cost, and there are plenty of other options depending 
> on your network topology and your budget.)
>
> I'm curious as to whether an ISP offering content filtering incurs any 
> extra legal exposure, and risks losing common-carrier status if, for 
> instance, someone pays for "block the porn!" and some porn gets through 
> anyway.
>
> Most of the case law on this subject that I've seen is five to ten years 
> old, which is an eternity in Internet years.
>
> David Smith
> MVN.net
>
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[WISPA] ubiquiti Nano and Power stations

[Japhy Bartlett]

Does anybody have a nanostation2 or a powerstation2 in stock - or a
used one lying around?

Just trying to buy one to test ranges in the real world.  Apparently
they are backordered everywhere?

Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

[reader]

What does this have to do with "militia"?This is plain old business 
sense talking.   There's a very observable business history, and we're all 
businessmen.  Nothing I've said is in any way strange or even not well 
known.   I'd just like to know what on earth people think they're going to 
get in the short run that's worth all of us vanishing.






- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck McCown - 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes


> Sounds like you and your militia buddies better go do sumptin' 'bout it.
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 3:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes
>
>
>> That's really a non-response to the issue.
>>
>> As a WISP, I travel the public roads, does this make me a "regulated
>> industry"?   Of course not.  I am still bound by the rules of the road,
>> however.
>>
>> But just driving the public highway does not obligate me to buy a car for
>> the cop when his breaks, out of my pocket, because I was the closest
>> person
>> at hand when his broke down, or hand him the keys because mine is faster
>> and
>> more capable.   Nor does it obligate me to feed him, buy him donuts, nor
>> does it mean I can be required to file his papers for him or launder his
>> uniform.   Nor does it give the federal government the right to set my
>> wages, because I use public facilities.
>>
>> This "we're already a regulated industry, stop fighting and accept
>> extinction" argument is specious, and we all know it.   I just can't
>> figure
>> who it is that wants it and has cowed everyone else into silence.   We do
>> NOT need the FCC to tell us how to manage data flow on our networks, how
>> to
>> charge for our services, nor control what content passes through, nor be
>> prohibited from passing through our networks.   Nor do we need to be 
>> doing
>> THEIR work for them for free, just because they get a whim to ask for it.
>>
>> WE SHOULD BE PROACTIVE IN DEFENDING OURSELVES.   I just can't figure out
>> why
>> or how the only supposed "representative" of WISP's is seemingly unable 
>> to
>> make one single official statement in opposition to any mandate or
>> regulatory fiat.
>>
>> I said a long time ago that these things would come back to bite us, if 
>> we
>> did not take a defensive stand.When CALEA first came onto the 
>> horizon,
>> we got all kinds of pleasant sounding words about how they just needed
>> help
>> with law enforcement.   The last word on "the standard" was that either
>> you
>> rebuild your network to conform or else you're dead.  Even if it means
>> complete redesign of how your network functions.   Of course, that was
>> specifically denied at the first, with vague statements about how they do
>> not intend to mandate network design, etc.  Now even the WISPA people are
>> on
>> that bandwagon, and even have gone along with mandated network design or
>> equipment.
>>
>> The question I have is...  AT WHAT POINT WILL WISPA defend us?   Ever?
>> It
>> seems they're the cheerleaders for regulation, not our defenders.   It
>> seems
>> it takes around 2 to 3 trips to DC and they come back all starry eyed and
>> delusional about the nature of the MONSTER they are so charmed by.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chuck McCown - 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 11:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes
>>
>>
>>> We ARE regulated now.  Just try to go on some other non part 15 
>>> frequency
>>> or
>>> start running power on ULS freqs.  You will discover very quickly how
>>> regulated you are.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Time Warner Testing the waters with meteredinternetconnections.

[Mark Nash]

It frosts me, really, when we see these articles from whomever giving ISPs
crap for wanting to curtail usage in order to not lose money on that
subscriber.  There is a huge trend going on, and we're right in the middle
of it.  That trend is to offer "free" access to your content and service, or
"paid" access to your content or service...don't care which.  This new
reality is pushing more and more burden onto the backbone and last mile
providers, who don't get to realize any revenue from it.  The word
"unlimited" has caused a big problem for us...

There are 2 arguments here..

1. The broadband company who is happy that these services are there because
they pick up more subscribers

2. The broadband company who feels they're being taken advantage of and is
being cut into little by little.  There will be a point for these companies
where enough is enough and then they will not offer 'all-you-can-eat'.

I'm a #2 ;)  (yes, I get the joke Bono...)

But there's room in the industry for both types...

Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
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- Original Message - 
From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'"

Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner Testing the waters with
meteredinternetconnections.


> They started out with unlimited dial-up and took that away. Almost all
> dial-up now is capped per so many hours a month. So now its spreading to
> broadband. I'm not surprised.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Brian Webster
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:32 PM
> To: WISPA List
> Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner Testing the waters with metered
> internetconnections.
>
> Looks like even the big guys are wondering what to do about all those
> bandwidth hungry internet applications... Times are a changin
>
>
 2214.html>
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> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com
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Re: [WISPA] Time Warner Testing the waters with metered internetconnections.

[Kurt Fankhauser]

They started out with unlimited dial-up and took that away. Almost all
dial-up now is capped per so many hours a month. So now its spreading to
broadband. I'm not surprised.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:32 PM
To: WISPA List
Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner Testing the waters with metered
internetconnections.

Looks like even the big guys are wondering what to do about all those
bandwidth hungry internet applications... Times are a changin




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[Brian Webster]

Looks like even the big guys are wondering what to do about all those
bandwidth hungry internet applications... Times are a changin




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Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] LMR-400 LMR-600 Equivalent (and stuff)

[Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181]

Can anyone help these guys out on some Cat 5 questions?

Also Roger, check out www.shireeninc.com  (hope I got that right).  Nusrat 
Jamal will give you the straight scoop on cables.

"kinking" cat 5 doesn't hurt anything unless you mess up the insulation in 
the process.  I've had customers help me with installs and pull too hard on 
the cable not giving me time to straighten it out before it hits something 
and kinks.  Not at all as critical as coax is.  It's great stuff to work 
with compared to coax.

Also, check out these tools if you are working with cat 5.  Makes life a LOT 
easier!
http://www.telephoneparts.com/product/EZRJ45?gclid=CI29_YnX2JMCFR4sagod7jJ4Yw
You have to have the special crimper to use those.  Makes perfect 
connections every single time though!  Very nice stuff.

For a stripper I've not found anything easier or more cost effective than:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102881&cp=2032058.2032236.2032310&parentPage=family

laters,
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- Original Message - 
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Hector Garcia XE2K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Towertalk e-Goups" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Rich Hallman - N7TR" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] LMR-400 LMR-600 Equivalent (and stuff)


> Hector Garcia XE2K wrote:
>> Rick
>>
>> tnx for  share the info
>>
>> not in the need for Coax but that CAT5 cable looks vy interesting for  me 
>> at this moment
>>
> I wish I could find a bit more about the "flooded" CAT5e.  I really need
> the foam filled outdoor version, but by the reel it's not a bad price.
> OTOH all of mine (not flooded) has been free and through conduit it's
> not been a problem to use although a bear to install.  I've kinked more
> than one pull and had to throw it out. Hence the desire for the foam
> filled and the flooded, outdoor comscope might meet that requirement.
> Typical CAT5e is just a hollow plastic tube with 4 twisted pair. One of
> the local contractors has been letting me have "ends"  (makes the price
> right) which somethings amount to quite a bit in the easy feeding boxes.
> I need to make two more runs from the shack where the gigabit switch
> sets right next to the 756 Pro.  I'll have 2 runs of CAT5e and at least
> 3 runs of RG-6 (possibly 5) in one conduit. Another will have two
> rotator control cables (one is spare for later) and on cable to the
> 6-pack and two for remote antenna switches.  I'll also have an
> equivalent conduit run from the shop to the tower. Then there are the
> larger underground conduits from the shop and den to the tower
> containing the coax to the 6-pack as well as the UHF, VHF antennas.  I
> plan on doing the switching between the antennas on the big tower and
> the one at the end of the shop in the control box at the base of the
> tower.  It'll also switch rotator cable access to the big tower of shop
> tower to either the shop or Den.  BTW all my CAT5e runs are custom
> length with me installing the connectors so I don't have a lot of excess
> laying around in the way.
>
> NOTE I hate RHoS compliance.  It has cost me several equipment failures
> including a 40" HD TV set today, one mobile rig,  and several other
> pieces of equipment. It's cost NASA many problems and even caused
> satellites to fail.  Without the lead in solder or plating on circuit
> board the tendency to grow tin whiskers multiplies many fold.  Plus it
> doesn't wet the base metal nearly as easy as regular solder.  So I guess
> the US isn't the only government or group to over react with knee jerk
> reactions.Sorry for the rant, but I think that every time I
> see the words RHoS compliant and think of the failures just  I've
> seen.   I have nearly a full rull of good solder, I should get another
> while I can still get the stuff.
>
> Lots of plans and work, but I'm getting tired of moving a raft of
> cables, or propping them on stepladders every time I mow between the
> shop and garage. <:-))
>
> As to the coax, it's supposedly come scope which is supposed to be
> reasonably good.  I think I'd still going to order a bunch of Bury Flex
> to use in conjunction with my LMR 400 and 600 even though I do have
> several hundred feet of 600UF.  OTOH it looks like I'm going to need to
> order a reel of flooded CAT5e and flooded RG-6 somewhere as I'm running
> low.  Each run from the shjack is about 230 feet for the LMR-400 and 600
> while the RG-6 runs for the TV are nearly 300 each.  It doesn't take
> long to go through a 1000 feet of coax which starts to get expensive
> after a while, but cheap coax can be expensive in the long run.
>
> I'm beginning to think it's time to get rid of the two mobiles (Yaesu
> 897D and Icom 7000)  along with my Henry 2002A

Re: [WISPA] Tiger Direct is Breaking the Law

[ralph]

Someone ask them for the number.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tiger Direct is Breaking the Law

If it has a type acceptance number it is OK, if not, then not OK.  The limit
is not the only thing they care about.  Out of band emissions is a huge
thing.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Travis Johnson 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 12:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tiger Direct is Breaking the Law


  Not FCC certified? :)

  Travis

  Mark Nash wrote: 
Don't look but I've got one of those YDI amps on ebay right now...1000mW
indoor DC injector w/outdoor mount.  If you use it and you're under the
limit, then how can you be breaking Reg?

Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tiger Direct is Breaking the Law


  I think it's the manufacturers that need to be reported, not the
distributors or resellers. I know Hyperlink and YDI both still sell 1
watt amps right off their homepage.

Travis
Microserv

John Scrivner wrote:
There is no way this is close to legal:

Tiger Direct Wi-Fi Booster

 
Amp
  Does the FCC have a place where we can report this crap? This is
  flagrant
  abuse of the band and will lead to less usability of 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi for
  our
  purposes if we do not stand up and stop this type of behavior from
  vendors
  who sell crap.
Scriv


 
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Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

[Chuck McCown - 2]

Sounds like you and your militia buddies better go do sumptin' 'bout it.
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes


> That's really a non-response to the issue.
>
> As a WISP, I travel the public roads, does this make me a "regulated
> industry"?   Of course not.  I am still bound by the rules of the road,
> however.
>
> But just driving the public highway does not obligate me to buy a car for
> the cop when his breaks, out of my pocket, because I was the closest 
> person
> at hand when his broke down, or hand him the keys because mine is faster 
> and
> more capable.   Nor does it obligate me to feed him, buy him donuts, nor
> does it mean I can be required to file his papers for him or launder his
> uniform.   Nor does it give the federal government the right to set my
> wages, because I use public facilities.
>
> This "we're already a regulated industry, stop fighting and accept
> extinction" argument is specious, and we all know it.   I just can't 
> figure
> who it is that wants it and has cowed everyone else into silence.   We do
> NOT need the FCC to tell us how to manage data flow on our networks, how 
> to
> charge for our services, nor control what content passes through, nor be
> prohibited from passing through our networks.   Nor do we need to be doing
> THEIR work for them for free, just because they get a whim to ask for it.
>
> WE SHOULD BE PROACTIVE IN DEFENDING OURSELVES.   I just can't figure out 
> why
> or how the only supposed "representative" of WISP's is seemingly unable to
> make one single official statement in opposition to any mandate or
> regulatory fiat.
>
> I said a long time ago that these things would come back to bite us, if we
> did not take a defensive stand.When CALEA first came onto the horizon,
> we got all kinds of pleasant sounding words about how they just needed 
> help
> with law enforcement.   The last word on "the standard" was that either 
> you
> rebuild your network to conform or else you're dead.  Even if it means
> complete redesign of how your network functions.   Of course, that was
> specifically denied at the first, with vague statements about how they do
> not intend to mandate network design, etc.  Now even the WISPA people are 
> on
> that bandwagon, and even have gone along with mandated network design or
> equipment.
>
> The question I have is...  AT WHAT POINT WILL WISPA defend us?   Ever? 
> It
> seems they're the cheerleaders for regulation, not our defenders.   It 
> seems
> it takes around 2 to 3 trips to DC and they come back all starry eyed and
> delusional about the nature of the MONSTER they are so charmed by.
>
>
>
> 
> 
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chuck McCown - 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes
>
>
>> We ARE regulated now.  Just try to go on some other non part 15 frequency
>> or
>> start running power on ULS freqs.  You will discover very quickly how
>> regulated you are.
>
>
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