Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios
What new features are needed on the CPE? I've dealt with a lot of their Ligowave radios and the only complaint I have is the speed of their interface, but I know they're working on that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Norris Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios Deliberant is a good product with outstanding support. Yes I just put so in the field so far they work fine like the 2300 radios do. They have lot more features then the old 2300 radios did. The new units are the same thing as Ligowave gear or the Wiligear. They need to add a few features to the OS but nothing manger. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios ha...that is clever On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys. Anyone used the new Deliberant radios (CPE's) yet? I love their new marketing campaign on their site!! Very effective! Wondering what feedback anyone might have with their new ones (the CPE-2's). Good, bad, ugly? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Til-tek
How good are Til-tek antennas? When I've been searching for that MTI antenna, vendors keep pushing me to Til-tek. I love my MTI and I wasn't happy with the PW sectors. Thoughts? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Til-tek
We've been very happy with our Til-tek antennas. Chris Cooper Intelliwave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:00 AM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Til-tek How good are Til-tek antennas? When I've been searching for that MTI antenna, vendors keep pushing me to Til-tek. I love my MTI and I wasn't happy with the PW sectors. Thoughts? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Til-tek
I've had some tiltek 2.4 sector antennas that have been in use without problem since 2001. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop, Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 http://www.unwiredwest.com 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] Til-tek How good are Til-tek antennas? When I've been searching for that MTI antenna, vendors keep pushing me to Til-tek. I love my MTI and I wasn't happy with the PW sectors. Thoughts? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios
Just curious for anyone using these. Can they be used for ptp shots (maybe with WDS), or do you need a different AP with this client? Randy Jason Hensley wrote: What new features are needed on the CPE? I've dealt with a lot of their Ligowave radios and the only complaint I have is the speed of their interface, but I know they're working on that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Norris Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios Deliberant is a good product with outstanding support. Yes I just put so in the field so far they work fine like the 2300 radios do. They have lot more features then the old 2300 radios did. The new units are the same thing as Ligowave gear or the Wiligear. They need to add a few features to the OS but nothing manger. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios ha...that is clever On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys. Anyone used the new Deliberant radios (CPE's) yet? I love their new marketing campaign on their site!! Very effective! Wondering what feedback anyone might have with their new ones (the CPE-2's). Good, bad, ugly? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Story on Telco Bit Caps
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080822/tec_internet_caps.html?.v=2 Jeff Broadwick Sales Manager, ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) +1 574-935-8488 (Fax) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Story on Telco Bit Caps
Any telcom lawyers on the list who can comment on the legality of bandwidth caps? Based on my (admittedly limited) understanding of the various laws/regulations this seems to be very close to illegal if not outrightly so. However I am not a lawyer. Perhaps I should chat with the EFF. Thanks for the link Jeff! Jeff Broadwick wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080822/tec_internet_caps.html?.v=2 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fiber Costs
Tom DeReggi wrote: Is it costing you that considering all costs (last mile, transport, NOC)? Or just your last mile cost? Good question. It's not just CapEX that has to be considered but OpEx as well. I know an MTU building can be connected /spliced into street fiber for as little as $700 in parts/labor, including only the time start to finish installing it. (not all the beurocracy and planning time) Which can be quite expensive even in small towns as we have seen from recent threads on this list. There are numerous respected people in this industry that have pitched an average Fiber deployment to cost around $20/mon per sub over 20 years. That could mean alot of different things. Indeed it can. Plus once the fiber is deployed there is a whole host of OpEx costs that vary greatly based on what is being delivered. I'd be interested in hearing more about what you deliver for $1000/ sub? As would I. Please share. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] How to contact list admin?
I've tried emailing the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address on the list web page here http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless but my message was bounced back with the following error: Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 cuda_nsu sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.7.17) (state 14). Any other suggestions? Thanks, Cooper WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How to contact list admin?
Cooper Marcus wrote: I've tried emailing the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address on the list web page here http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless but my message was bounced back with the following error: If you're trying to contact the board, use the Web-based form at http://contact.wispa.org/ . If you need technical assistance with a mailing list issue, send me a private email. That email address hasn't worked in a year, at least; too much spam. I'll see if I can get that page changed accordingly. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] PRTG 7
Upgraded to PRTG 7 last night. I really really like it. Coolest features: - All configuration is done through the web interface - Web based map with relative device locations and status - Dependencies! - Mobile browser web server (needed this badly) - Intuitve navigation - Monitor servers as well as devices. Still need to set up my NetFlow sensors, but so far so good. Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 P Please consider the environment before printing this email aircloud_WebTiny_color_white_back.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios
Randy, Because we are a distributor of Deliberent I am not big on posting on the list for spam reasons. You can take two CPE devices and flash one with AP software for a AP/CPE or PTP. I have a customer testing it right now. Jeff Holdenrid DoubleRadius 704-927-6085 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios Just curious for anyone using these. Can they be used for ptp shots (maybe with WDS), or do you need a different AP with this client? Randy Jason Hensley wrote: What new features are needed on the CPE? I've dealt with a lot of their Ligowave radios and the only complaint I have is the speed of their interface, but I know they're working on that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Norris Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios Deliberant is a good product with outstanding support. Yes I just put so in the field so far they work fine like the 2300 radios do. They have lot more features then the old 2300 radios did. The new units are the same thing as Ligowave gear or the Wiligear. They need to add a few features to the OS but nothing manger. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios ha...that is clever On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys. Anyone used the new Deliberant radios (CPE's) yet? I love their new marketing campaign on their site!! Very effective! Wondering what feedback anyone might have with their new ones (the CPE-2's). Good, bad, ugly? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] Recall: New Deliberant radios
Jeff Holdenrid would like to recall the message, [WISPA] New Deliberant radios. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Til-tek
You need to be more specific on which frequency that you are talking about. An antenna's quality for a specific purpose can not be judge solely on a generalization that one Manufacturer makes better quality antenna over ALL their product lines, compared to another manufacturer of ALL their product lines. Til-tek makes an EXCELLENT 120 deg sector, Dual Polarity, 9-11 dbi, 900Mhz antenna. Probably the best in the industry, from my personal experience. (likewise have single pol models) Wincomm has good pricing on these. Just like MTI, Tiltek caters to the high end antenna market. As far as 5.X Ghz or 2.4Ghz sectors, I can't advise. We have not used Tiltek for those bands, yet. I will say Tessco, carries the Terrawave brand, and they have 120deg and 90 deg (wideband) 5.1-5.8 Ghz 14-17dbi sector verticle pol antennas for around $130. We have been using these, and we have been really happy with them. We've standardized on these. Side note... SuperPass antennas are actually very high quality antennas from an RF point of view. Their unique pattented designs allow them to make antennas shorter and smaller than other brands of equivellent gain. These can be great for areas that need better cosmetic appeal. However their mounting mechanism is low end (strap ties) and meant for the price market. Most of their antennas are Verticle pol also. But if you need an inexpensive solution, these are great. What I'd really like to find is a make of Dual Pol 5.x sector antennas, at a reasonable price. Still, after 8 years of asking, nobody is making them yet for an affordable price, as a standalone antenna product. We are also looking to determine what the most affordable wideband (5.2-5.8G) sector is for Horizontal Pol. (equivellently spec'd to the Terrawaves). When selecting an antenna You are looking for and comparing several factors 1) Front to back ratio, or sharpness of the beamwidth side cut off (side lobe characteristics and such) 2) Size (for equivellent gain) 3) Mounting requirements, (durabilty and positioning). 4) Price. Different antenna brands are designed to solve different of these problems. You need to define what problem you are trying to solve, to determine the best choice. The Tilteks are generally rather large, Good sharp beamwidth cut off abnd F/B ratio, have durable mounts appropriate for thick poled Towers, and medium range in price. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] Til-tek How good are Til-tek antennas? When I've been searching for that MTI antenna, vendors keep pushing me to Til-tek. I love my MTI and I wasn't happy with the PW sectors. Thoughts? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 5:12 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios
Yes, we have used the Ligowave quite a bit for PTP. They work great. (compared appropriately to equivellent class Atheros mpci radio card gear). I can say four things about their products 1) They don't cut corners on hardware. Down to the pigtail, nothing but the best. 2) The software is powerful, flexible, and fully feature rich. (exception: does not do MPLS or OLSR for non-traditional routing needs) 3) BUT... the software slow to navigate and requires more system reboots for some reconfiguration changes to take effect, than some of their competitors do. This should be kept in mind when considering where appropriate to use 4 port/link units. (managing one link/port can effect another link/port). Whether periodic 30 sec outages are OK or not, when reconfiguring. 4) The tech team is very eager to help, and improve their code, at customer's suggestions and requests. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios Just curious for anyone using these. Can they be used for ptp shots (maybe with WDS), or do you need a different AP with this client? Randy Jason Hensley wrote: What new features are needed on the CPE? I've dealt with a lot of their Ligowave radios and the only complaint I have is the speed of their interface, but I know they're working on that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Norris Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios Deliberant is a good product with outstanding support. Yes I just put so in the field so far they work fine like the 2300 radios do. They have lot more features then the old 2300 radios did. The new units are the same thing as Ligowave gear or the Wiligear. They need to add a few features to the OS but nothing manger. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios ha...that is clever On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys. Anyone used the new Deliberant radios (CPE's) yet? I love their new marketing campaign on their site!! Very effective! Wondering what feedback anyone might have with their new ones (the CPE-2's). Good, bad, ugly? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Story on Telco Bit Caps
Any telcom lawyers on the list who can comment on the legality of bandwidth caps? Based on my (admittedly limited) understanding of the various laws/regulations this seems to be very close to illegal if not outrightly so. However I am not a lawyer. Perhaps I should chat with the EFF. Just like consumers think its not right for phone companies to charge per minute. Matt Jeff Broadwick wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080822/tec_internet_caps.html?.v=2 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios
Matt, That is great news. And will be a great addition to a great product. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios I've seen a couple of mentions of the slow interfaces today, so I thought I'd jump in and add something that you guys have to look forward to :) Jason hinted at it, but the web interfaces are being completely redesigned with a Flex back-end. This means that each click on the UI will no longer require the traditional PHP post-back or page re-load. This makes configuring a radio much much faster. In addition to this style configuration, the new web interfaces will support on-the-fly or instant changes, so no more rebooting after every change. (this feature is optional) We should have something available in the next month or so :) -Matt On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 14:26 -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote: Yes, we have used the Ligowave quite a bit for PTP. They work great. (compared appropriately to equivellent class Atheros mpci radio card gear). I can say four things about their products 1) They don't cut corners on hardware. Down to the pigtail, nothing but the best. 2) The software is powerful, flexible, and fully feature rich. (exception: does not do MPLS or OLSR for non-traditional routing needs) 3) BUT... the software slow to navigate and requires more system reboots for some reconfiguration changes to take effect, than some of their competitors do. This should be kept in mind when considering where appropriate to use 4 port/link units. (managing one link/port can effect another link/port). Whether periodic 30 sec outages are OK or not, when reconfiguring. 4) The tech team is very eager to help, and improve their code, at customer's suggestions and requests. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios Just curious for anyone using these. Can they be used for ptp shots (maybe with WDS), or do you need a different AP with this client? Randy Jason Hensley wrote: What new features are needed on the CPE? I've dealt with a lot of their Ligowave radios and the only complaint I have is the speed of their interface, but I know they're working on that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Norris Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios Deliberant is a good product with outstanding support. Yes I just put so in the field so far they work fine like the 2300 radios do. They have lot more features then the old 2300 radios did. The new units are the same thing as Ligowave gear or the Wiligear. They need to add a few features to the OS but nothing manger. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios ha...that is clever On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys. Anyone used the new Deliberant radios (CPE's) yet? I love their new marketing campaign on their site!! Very effective! Wondering what feedback anyone might have with their new ones (the CPE-2's). Good, bad, ugly? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source,
Re: [WISPA] Story on Telco Bit Caps
IANAL.. but, I have maintained for quite a while that Bit Caps, Traffic Shaping, Pay-per-bit, etc., which affects *all traffic* the same is the only correct way to implement controls, and is the least likely to get you in trouble with the FCC. The FCC basically wants to ensure that ISP's don't block specific applications from their network. That is, the FCC has stated that customers have the right to use bittorrent on our networks, whether we like it or not. What they haven't said anything about is our ability to charge customers for usage, so including only a specific amount of transfer is perfectly acceptable. -forrest Charles Wyble wrote: Any telcom lawyers on the list who can comment on the legality of bandwidth caps? Based on my (admittedly limited) understanding of the various laws/regulations this seems to be very close to illegal if not outrightly so. However I am not a lawyer. Perhaps I should chat with the EFF. Thanks for the link Jeff! Jeff Broadwick wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080822/tec_internet_caps.html?.v=2 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fixing dead CPE
Thanks, Brian. They seem to be good people. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: http://www.allcompc.com/ I have done all my cables thru these guys for the last couple years now. No complaints. They will make anything, I have ordered 2 inch mmcx to u.fl before. They make it all custom, just call and tell them what you want. I usually deal with Cathy or Bill. Brian Blair Davis wrote: Thanks! Having taken my deaders apart now I see some with a u.fl pigtail and some with an MMCX or RP-MMCX pigtail. (I always get those two mixed up) I'd like to find a female MMCX or female RP-MMCX to u.fl pigtail to use in these Any ideas where to find those? Anyone? Blair Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I just take two flathead screwdrivers and start in the middle of one of the sides and keep working my way all the way around. Then I re-seal it with some of that black silicone. Don't use the clear silicone it doesn't hold as good. I've probably done 30 of these on out-of-warranty units and it works great. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fixing dead CPE how do you get them open without breaking them? And, maybe the crossroads would work in them? Kurt Fankhauser wrote: RB133 and radio of your choice, costs around $100 and you get more features than Tranzeo and I think better throughput. Only problem with the newer Slim Line series the Rj-45 pigtail is gone since they mount their SBC right up to the hole under the boot so adding an aftermarket board is a problem and I haven't figured out how to do it yet. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 11:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fixing dead CPE I've hear some are repairing themselves by putting in their alternative boards? I'd like to hear what works best. -RickG On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Blair Davis mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I gave them a ring. They are net doing Tranzeo. Any others out there? Jim Patient wrote: 1-866-439-5469 http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=ezlinxnet userid=ezlinxnet Jim Blair Davis wrote: The ez one I had heard of, but, if either is on here, hopefully, he will see this and drop me a line. Thanks Blair Cameron Kilton wrote: Exlinx is one guy Jack Weinberg is the dude. -Cam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Fixing dead CPE Anybody know who fixes failed CPE? I've ended up with a few Tranzeo units that have died out of warranty and I'd like to see if they can be fixed. Think I've seen him on here ez something... Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How to contact list admin?
Cooper, How can I help you? Respectively, Rick Harnish President WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cooper Marcus Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 1:23 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] How to contact list admin? I've tried emailing the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address on the list web page here http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless but my message was bounced back with the following error: Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 cuda_nsu sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.7.17) (state 14). Any other suggestions? Thanks, Cooper WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1627 - Release Date: 8/22/2008 6:48 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] car version of Ruckus gateway?
Anyone know of a good car version of the Ruckus Metroflex 2225? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC Form 477 Reminder
This is a reminder that Form 477 filing is due on Sept 2, 2008. The instructions can be found at http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf and the form can be downloaded at http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html. All Broadband providers are mandated by law to fill out this form twice a year. Respectively, Rick Harnish President WISPA WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Reminder
Submitted mine yesterday! On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a reminder that Form 477 filing is due on Sept 2, 2008. The instructions can be found at http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf and the form can be downloaded at http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html. All Broadband providers are mandated by law to fill out this form twice a year. Respectively, Rick Harnish President WISPA WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Til-tek
I'm looking for 5 GHz horizontal 90* sectors. Tiltek seems to be getting a good word. I might give them a try. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Til-tek You need to be more specific on which frequency that you are talking about. An antenna's quality for a specific purpose can not be judge solely on a generalization that one Manufacturer makes better quality antenna over ALL their product lines, compared to another manufacturer of ALL their product lines. Til-tek makes an EXCELLENT 120 deg sector, Dual Polarity, 9-11 dbi, 900Mhz antenna. Probably the best in the industry, from my personal experience. (likewise have single pol models) Wincomm has good pricing on these. Just like MTI, Tiltek caters to the high end antenna market. As far as 5.X Ghz or 2.4Ghz sectors, I can't advise. We have not used Tiltek for those bands, yet. I will say Tessco, carries the Terrawave brand, and they have 120deg and 90 deg (wideband) 5.1-5.8 Ghz 14-17dbi sector verticle pol antennas for around $130. We have been using these, and we have been really happy with them. We've standardized on these. Side note... SuperPass antennas are actually very high quality antennas from an RF point of view. Their unique pattented designs allow them to make antennas shorter and smaller than other brands of equivellent gain. These can be great for areas that need better cosmetic appeal. However their mounting mechanism is low end (strap ties) and meant for the price market. Most of their antennas are Verticle pol also. But if you need an inexpensive solution, these are great. What I'd really like to find is a make of Dual Pol 5.x sector antennas, at a reasonable price. Still, after 8 years of asking, nobody is making them yet for an affordable price, as a standalone antenna product. We are also looking to determine what the most affordable wideband (5.2-5.8G) sector is for Horizontal Pol. (equivellently spec'd to the Terrawaves). When selecting an antenna You are looking for and comparing several factors 1) Front to back ratio, or sharpness of the beamwidth side cut off (side lobe characteristics and such) 2) Size (for equivellent gain) 3) Mounting requirements, (durabilty and positioning). 4) Price. Different antenna brands are designed to solve different of these problems. You need to define what problem you are trying to solve, to determine the best choice. The Tilteks are generally rather large, Good sharp beamwidth cut off abnd F/B ratio, have durable mounts appropriate for thick poled Towers, and medium range in price. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] Til-tek How good are Til-tek antennas? When I've been searching for that MTI antenna, vendors keep pushing me to Til-tek. I love my MTI and I wasn't happy with the PW sectors. Thoughts? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 5:12 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Story on Telco Bit Caps
I certainly hope it's not illegal. That'd spell bad news for us all if it was... I do, however, disagree with a meager 5 GB. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Story on Telco Bit Caps Any telcom lawyers on the list who can comment on the legality of bandwidth caps? Based on my (admittedly limited) understanding of the various laws/regulations this seems to be very close to illegal if not outrightly so. However I am not a lawyer. Perhaps I should chat with the EFF. Thanks for the link Jeff! Jeff Broadwick wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080822/tec_internet_caps.html?.v=2 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Story on Telco Bit Caps
Agreed I believe the goal with this new policy is to raise rates. This is good for us. Mike Hammett wrote: I certainly hope it's not illegal. That'd spell bad news for us all if it was... I do, however, disagree with a meager 5 GB. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Story on Telco Bit Caps Any telcom lawyers on the list who can comment on the legality of bandwidth caps? Based on my (admittedly limited) understanding of the various laws/regulations this seems to be very close to illegal if not outrightly so. However I am not a lawyer. Perhaps I should chat with the EFF. Thanks for the link Jeff! Jeff Broadwick wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080822/tec_internet_caps.html?.v=2 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
