Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing
Well I guess its 2 for it was an advertisement and 2 for it was not. I apologize if it was viewed that way, I was really trying to point out that Landmark is a local leasing company to us we have had great success with, and have directed other WISP's to. I want to apologize though if it appeared I made an advertisement... and I really don't want to start a thread or conversation on it one way or another. Thank You, Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing Please do not Advertise on the list! This is not permitted. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* 3-dB Networks wrote: Yes... Everyone check out our website article here. http://www.3dbnetworks.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=126 It describes in detail the various funding options out there and why you should choose each option. It was written by Todd Bergstrom, the former CEO of Mesa Networks and the CEO of 3-dB Networks. If you go here http://www.3dbnetworks.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=128 We have a link and some information about the company we used for our financing when we were Mesa, Landmark Financial. They are a great company to work with, and truly understand the WISP industry. If you need some Motorola gear for that financing, we may be able to work out a special deal for you... Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:07 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Equip Leasing Does anyone have a good relationship with a reputable equipment leasing firm? If so, who are you using? Thanks Chris Cooper This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Eavesdropping on wired keyboards
FYI From SANS NewsBites --Researchers Read Electromagnetic Emanations From Wired Keyboards (October 20 22, 2008) Swiss researchers have demonstrated that keystrokes from wired keyboards can be read remotely from distances of up to 20 meters. The keyboards emit electromagnetic waves. The researchers at Security and Cryptography Laboratory at Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne have described four different methods of eavesdropping on keystrokes on wired keyboards. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10072967-83.html?tag=mncol;title http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/20/keyboard_sniffing_attack/ Dave Hulsebus Portative Technologies, LLC www.portative.com begin:vcard fn:David Hulsebus n:Hulsebus;David adr;dom:;;;Corydon;IN;47112 note;quoted-printable:High-speed Internet Services=0D=0A= =0D=0A= Security - Forensic Analysis=0D=0A= url:www.portative.com version:2.1 end:vcard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo
That's how everything is going these days. That's why I've been badgering people to badger their vendors for gear with higher capacities and not the crap they have been shoveling (WiMAX). Keep going with the status quo and the Internet will pass you by. For some, it already has. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo Netflix and TiVo are getting together.. more bandwidth anybody? Labor and postage gone, and we deliver it (nearly free) at the customer expense ! http://tinyurl.com/6286v8 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3
Hi, Changing the country code is the same as buying the Custom Frequency license. What does your power output table show on the AP and CPE side? What kind of signals are you getting? Travis Microserv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are testing a 3.65 GHz setup with MT and XR3 using a 11 dBi Omni and 14 dBi panel. My results are not really impressive with signal levels. However, In order to use 3663 MHz you must set the card for 5770 MHz and 5770 MHz is not available unless you purchase a special frequency license for each ap and cpe from MT. However someone on the list pointed out that selecting a different country other than the good old USA would allow you to select the 5770 Mhz frequency. This is true and we used the Germany 5ghz ptp setting for country and we now have the needed 5770 Mhz frequency available for selection. So now I am starting to wonder if this may be the reason we are getting less than anticipated results with signal levels. So now finally the real question I am asking; is there really a difference between purchasing a special frequency license from MT and using the cheat of selecting a different country in order to select 5770 Mhz? Isn't 5770 Mhz still 5770 Mhz no matter what? Thanks, John Buwa Michiana Wireless WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3
I use the brazil country code. On the main wireless tab under frequency mode make sure that you have selected manual_txpower instead of regulatory domain or it will try to limit your power due to local regulatory laws without you knowing. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:45 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3 We are testing a 3.65 GHz setup with MT and XR3 using a 11 dBi Omni and 14 dBi panel. My results are not really impressive with signal levels. However, In order to use 3663 MHz you must set the card for 5770 MHz and 5770 MHz is not available unless you purchase a special frequency license for each ap and cpe from MT. However someone on the list pointed out that selecting a different country other than the good old USA would allow you to select the 5770 Mhz frequency. This is true and we used the Germany 5ghz ptp setting for country and we now have the needed 5770 Mhz frequency available for selection. So now I am starting to wonder if this may be the reason we are getting less than anticipated results with signal levels. So now finally the real question I am asking; is there really a difference between purchasing a special frequency license from MT and using the cheat of selecting a different country in order to select 5770 Mhz? Isn't 5770 Mhz still 5770 Mhz no matter what? Thanks, John Buwa Michiana Wireless WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo
If I'm a water company the more water I sell the better. If I'm an electric company the more electricity I sell the better. So, how is this Netflix/Tivo deal a bad thing for an ISP? I see this as simply more pressure on the ISP industry as a whole to increase prices and/or move to a consumption model no different than the aforementioned. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:20 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo Netflix and TiVo are getting together.. more bandwidth anybody? Labor and postage gone, and we deliver it (nearly free) at the customer expense ! http://tinyurl.com/6286v8 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] star os help
Hi All, I have a StarOS system that's running slow. It's probably an interference issue but I'm not good enough with these units to figure out what channels to use based on scans etc. I'd also like some help with tweaks etc. Who would be a good consultant or operator to hire to help with this? This is somewhat urgent. I've tried to fix it myself a couple of times now and I'm not doing much good. Thanks, marlon 509.988.0260 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo
I think the problem is until the big boys change, us little guys can't change to a metered system. Right now cable, DSL, licensed WiMax, etc. are all unlimited usage. There is no way I could change to a pay per byte model without losing a ton of customers. Travis Microserv Brad Belton wrote: If I'm a water company the more water I sell the better. If I'm an electric company the more electricity I sell the better. So, how is this Netflix/Tivo deal a bad thing for an ISP? I see this as simply more pressure on the ISP industry as a whole to increase prices and/or move to a consumption model no different than the aforementioned. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:20 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo Netflix and TiVo are getting together.. more bandwidth anybody? Labor and postage gone, and we deliver it (nearly free) at the customer expense ! http://tinyurl.com/6286v8 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo
I think the problem is until the big boys change, us little guys can't change to a metered system. Right now cable, DSL, licensed WiMax, etc. are all unlimited usage. There is no way I could change to a pay per byte model without losing a ton of customers. Exactly. For those imposing bit caps where is the bit cap at? Here comcast is doing a 250GB bit cap then you here some of there customers whining how thats not fair. No way I can afford a 250GB per month user. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] IM
Got tied up yesterday...do you have IM or something? Might be easier to catch you that way (I could ping you when I'm free, and we go from there) -Charles This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IM
Charles, I don't think you meant to put that message on the WISPA mailing list =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Charles Wu (CTI) [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Got tied up yesterday...do you have IM or something? Might be easier to catch you that way (I could ping you when I'm free, and we go from there) -Charles This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3
Also, when working with UBNT cards and Mikrotik, be sure you are adjusting for correct power settings. See http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/ubi_mtik_power.pdf for a pretty thorough explanation. Randy Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I use the brazil country code. On the main wireless tab under frequency mode make sure that you have selected manual_txpower instead of regulatory domain or it will try to limit your power due to local regulatory laws without you knowing. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:45 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3 We are testing a 3.65 GHz setup with MT and XR3 using a 11 dBi Omni and 14 dBi panel. My results are not really impressive with signal levels. However, In order to use 3663 MHz you must set the card for 5770 MHz and 5770 MHz is not available unless you purchase a special frequency license for each ap and cpe from MT. However someone on the list pointed out that selecting a different country other than the good old USA would allow you to select the 5770 Mhz frequency. This is true and we used the Germany 5ghz ptp setting for country and we now have the needed 5770 Mhz frequency available for selection. So now I am starting to wonder if this may be the reason we are getting less than anticipated results with signal levels. So now finally the real question I am asking; is there really a difference between purchasing a special frequency license from MT and using the cheat of selecting a different country in order to select 5770 Mhz? Isn't 5770 Mhz still 5770 Mhz no matter what? Thanks, John Buwa Michiana Wireless WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] star os help
Marlon... call Matt Larsen. I know he knows Star OS inside and out Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:06 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] star os help Importance: High Hi All, I have a StarOS system that's running slow. It's probably an interference issue but I'm not good enough with these units to figure out what channels to use based on scans etc. I'd also like some help with tweaks etc. Who would be a good consultant or operator to hire to help with this? This is somewhat urgent. I've tried to fix it myself a couple of times now and I'm not doing much good. Thanks, marlon 509.988.0260 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ISPCON
Who's going? We are thinking of throwing a networking party / reception there on Wednesday night (right before ISP-CEO) Wanted to know who'd be there to see if there's any interest out there -Charles Charles Wu President [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 773-457-0718 * office: 847-346-0990 x2500 16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 * tel: 847.326.0990 fax: 847.346.0991 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISPCON
JC and I will be there. Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu (CTI) Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Who's going? We are thinking of throwing a networking party / reception there on Wednesday night (right before ISP-CEO) Wanted to know who'd be there to see if there's any interest out there -Charles Charles Wu President [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 773-457-0718 * office: 847-346-0990 x2500 16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 * tel: 847.326.0990 fax: 847.346.0991 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] star os help
hi Marlon, I don't know of any paid StarOS consultants. (I get most of my ideas from the StarOS forum at www.staros.com) Are both ends StarOS? If so, I would be happy to look at it for you for free. (but I would only grade myself B based on my two years of using staros -- there are several very sharp people on the forum) If only one end is StarOS, I would still look at it, but am less confident of my abilities. -John Maple River Networks Laingsburg Michigan PS - thanks for your years of hard work supporting WISPs! On Oct 30, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, I have a StarOS system that's running slow. It's probably an interference issue but I'm not good enough with these units to figure out what channels to use based on scans etc. I'd also like some help with tweaks etc. Who would be a good consultant or operator to hire to help with this? This is somewhat urgent. I've tried to fix it myself a couple of times now and I'm not doing much good. Thanks, marlon 509.988.0260 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] star os help
Told ya Marlon. Told ya so :-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:05:14 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] star os help Marlon... call Matt Larsen. I know he knows Star OS inside and out Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:06 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] star os help Importance: High Hi All, I have a StarOS system that's running slow. It's probably an interference issue but I'm not good enough with these units to figure out what channels to use based on scans etc. I'd also like some help with tweaks etc. Who would be a good consultant or operator to hire to help with this? This is somewhat urgent. I've tried to fix it myself a couple of times now and I'm not doing much good. Thanks, marlon 509.988.0260 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISPCON
Vox is exhibiting and will be there...Ron -Original Message- From: Charles Wu (CTI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Who's going? We are thinking of throwing a networking party / reception there on Wednesday night (right before ISP-CEO) Wanted to know who'd be there to see if there's any interest out there -Charles Charles Wu President [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 773-457-0718 * office: 847-346-0990 x2500 16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 * tel: 847.326.0990 fax: 847.346.0991 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] star os help
Butch Evans' signature reads StarOS and more!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:31 PM, John Valenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi Marlon, I don't know of any paid StarOS consultants. (I get most of my ideas from the StarOS forum at www.staros.com) Are both ends StarOS? If so, I would be happy to look at it for you for free. (but I would only grade myself B based on my two years of using staros -- there are several very sharp people on the forum) If only one end is StarOS, I would still look at it, but am less confident of my abilities. -John Maple River Networks Laingsburg Michigan PS - thanks for your years of hard work supporting WISPs! On Oct 30, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, I have a StarOS system that's running slow. It's probably an interference issue but I'm not good enough with these units to figure out what channels to use based on scans etc. I'd also like some help with tweaks etc. Who would be a good consultant or operator to hire to help with this? This is somewhat urgent. I've tried to fix it myself a couple of times now and I'm not doing much good. Thanks, marlon 509.988.0260 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISPCON
I will be there. WISPA is hosting a reception on Tuesday evening at 6:30 and will have a booth as well. Hope to see many of you there. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu (CTI) Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Who's going? We are thinking of throwing a networking party / reception there on Wednesday night (right before ISP-CEO) Wanted to know who'd be there to see if there's any interest out there -Charles Charles Wu President [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 773-457-0718 * office: 847-346-0990 x2500 16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 * tel: 847.326.0990 fax: 847.346.0991 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISPCON
ServerPlus is exhibiting and will be there. I am always up for one of your parties Charles ;-). -Layne Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext. 102 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu (CTI) Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Who's going? We are thinking of throwing a networking party / reception there on Wednesday night (right before ISP-CEO) Wanted to know who'd be there to see if there's any interest out there -Charles Charles Wu President [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 773-457-0718 * office: 847-346-0990 x2500 16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 * tel: 847.326.0990 fax: 847.346.0991 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik disconnect issue Oct 10th, 2008
Have you noticed Mtik's listing for this information anywhere? I cannot find it anywhere I agree with you on this subject. Perhaps it is just a mis-understanding. I'll ask about it offline. ryan Bob Knight wrote: If I were in John's shoes, I'd feel the same way. Personally, I'd have more respect for Tranzeo if they complied with the GPL and BSD licenses. The ER1000 series is Linux-based. Nowhere in Tranzeo's documentation or on their web site do I find the information required by the GPL. If one gets into the unit, the information required by the BSD license isn't there either. We (LCWA, that is) have talked to them regarding this and they're basically non-responsive. To many, it's a small thing. In my opinion, it matters because it speaks to ethics. FWIW. Bob John Scrivner wrote: Now if they would just drop a mere $1000 to join WISPA as a Vendor Member they would earn mine. I use their products every day. I have asked them to join, face to face, at shows as recently as the last WiMax World a month ago. Tranzeo benefits regularly from WISPA but as yet seems reluctant to support our industry efforts. Scriv On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read every word. Tranzeo has earned my respect. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List; Mikrotik discussions; Mikrotik Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik disconnect issue Oct 10th, 2008 Ladies and Gentlemen, (Please pardon my extensive use of () and in this here email, I am not so good with the typin' stuff! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- A few weeks ago (years in some cases, hi Travis!) there was discovered a random disconnect issue between Tranzeo CPE and Mtik APs. First it was prism vs atheos (no, that was not it) Then it was tranzeo CPE are terrible. Yadda Yadda (no that is not it either as even MTIK CPE were seing this, although not as often) Then it was you must have some power issue with the boards browning out on the routeros board you are using (nope, not that either) Someone even threw in Pluto is mad that it is not a planet any more. (Pluto is now considered the largest member of a distinct population called the Kuiper belt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuiper_belt.) Even I said it was not an issue and hey they just disconnect a few times a day.. who cares! (whoops! talk to my P** off customers!) Even Marlon the strange wizard from the far side of the mountains said the Tranzeo CPE were to blame (he convinced me to use Tranzeo over SmartBridges! Thank Goodness!) Travis from Idaho posted a forum entry here for Mtik to ignore or scoff at: (Hi Uldis!) http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=7t=24971 I emailed Damian and another gentleman from Tranzeo privately and said WTF kids? I did some network sniffing for them and was able to give EXACT details about what was happening, when and how. We (Tranzeo and I, mostly Damian) opened a ticket with Mtik (Ticket#2008091666000531): Tranzeo laid out a packet sniff from Network Instruments Wireless Observer along with my wireshark packet sniff showing in brief that the Mtik AP was throwing out random zeros in it's beacon frame timestamp. They stated that when a zero is recieved, the CPE are to assume that there is a change in the settings of the wireless AP and they should disconnect and reaquire. (think of this as an INSTANT change from 802.11b to 802.11b/g and all your clients disconnect and reconnect, because, well, there is a change in the AP's capabilities. This is reasonable reaction to a notification of a change of settings. Mtik replied with IEEE Std 802.11-2007 section 11.1.1.1 (located here if you have trouble sleeping: (http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/download/802.11-2007.pdf *YAWN* let me tell you, this explains why wireless engineers are who they are.. whoa!) Mtik continued and said that the wording of this standard allowed for a timestamp of zero sent from the AP and basically the CPE should deal with it and play through. Damian learned some Latvian so he could swear in a diffrent language than Canadian. Honestly, he likes to be legal in APs etc and just cannot see why us ULS users would flaunt the FCC _and_ put up with these Mtik bugs. I mentioned something under my breath regarding CPQs and firware updates about 3 years ago... The nice gentleman engineer at Tranzeo placed some virtual CPE on a bench facing a Mtik AP and was able to reproduce the issue. He then released to me some very alpha firmware that would email him with a warning whenever a CPQ saw a zero frame.
Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik disconnect issueOct 10th, 2008
In their reference manual as well on the web interface and in the toc doc in win box. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:26:29 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik disconnect issue Oct 10th, 2008 Have you noticed Mtik's listing for this information anywhere? I cannot find it anywhere I agree with you on this subject. Perhaps it is just a mis-understanding. I'll ask about it offline. ryan Bob Knight wrote: If I were in John's shoes, I'd feel the same way. Personally, I'd have more respect for Tranzeo if they complied with the GPL and BSD licenses. The ER1000 series is Linux-based. Nowhere in Tranzeo's documentation or on their web site do I find the information required by the GPL. If one gets into the unit, the information required by the BSD license isn't there either. We (LCWA, that is) have talked to them regarding this and they're basically non-responsive. To many, it's a small thing. In my opinion, it matters because it speaks to ethics. FWIW. Bob John Scrivner wrote: Now if they would just drop a mere $1000 to join WISPA as a Vendor Member they would earn mine. I use their products every day. I have asked them to join, face to face, at shows as recently as the last WiMax World a month ago. Tranzeo benefits regularly from WISPA but as yet seems reluctant to support our industry efforts. Scriv On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read every word. Tranzeo has earned my respect. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List; Mikrotik discussions; Mikrotik Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik disconnect issue Oct 10th, 2008 Ladies and Gentlemen, (Please pardon my extensive use of () and in this here email, I am not so good with the typin' stuff! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- A few weeks ago (years in some cases, hi Travis!) there was discovered a random disconnect issue between Tranzeo CPE and Mtik APs. First it was prism vs atheos (no, that was not it) Then it was tranzeo CPE are terrible. Yadda Yadda (no that is not it either as even MTIK CPE were seing this, although not as often) Then it was you must have some power issue with the boards browning out on the routeros board you are using (nope, not that either) Someone even threw in Pluto is mad that it is not a planet any more. (Pluto is now considered the largest member of a distinct population called the Kuiper belt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuiper_belt.) Even I said it was not an issue and hey they just disconnect a few times a day.. who cares! (whoops! talk to my P** off customers!) Even Marlon the strange wizard from the far side of the mountains said the Tranzeo CPE were to blame (he convinced me to use Tranzeo over SmartBridges! Thank Goodness!) Travis from Idaho posted a forum entry here for Mtik to ignore or scoff at: (Hi Uldis!) http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=7t=24971 I emailed Damian and another gentleman from Tranzeo privately and said WTF kids? I did some network sniffing for them and was able to give EXACT details about what was happening, when and how. We (Tranzeo and I, mostly Damian) opened a ticket with Mtik (Ticket#2008091666000531): Tranzeo laid out a packet sniff from Network Instruments Wireless Observer along with my wireshark packet sniff showing in brief that the Mtik AP was throwing out random zeros in it's beacon frame timestamp. They stated that when a zero is recieved, the CPE are to assume that there is a change in the settings of the wireless AP and they should disconnect and reaquire. (think of this as an INSTANT change from 802.11b to 802.11b/g and all your clients disconnect and reconnect, because, well, there is a change in the AP's capabilities. This is reasonable reaction to a notification of a change of settings. Mtik replied with IEEE Std 802.11-2007 section 11.1.1.1 (located here if you have trouble sleeping: (http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/download/802.11-2007.pdf *YAWN* let me tell you, this explains why wireless engineers are who they are.. whoa!) Mtik continued and said that the wording of this standard allowed for a timestamp of zero sent from the AP and basically the CPE should deal with it and play through. Damian learned some Latvian so he could swear in a diffrent language than Canadian. Honestly, he likes to be legal in APs etc and just cannot see why us ULS users would flaunt the FCC _and_ put up with these Mtik bugs. I
Re: [WISPA] ISPCON
I'll be there sounds good. Travis Microserv Charles Wu (CTI) wrote: Who's going? We are thinking of throwing a networking party / reception there on Wednesday night (right before ISP-CEO) Wanted to know who'd be there to see if there's any interest out there -Charles Charles Wu President [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 773-457-0718 * office: 847-346-0990 x2500 16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 * tel: 847.326.0990 fax: 847.346.0991 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik disconnect issue Oct 10th, 2008
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, D. Ryan Spott wrote: Have you noticed Mtik's listing for this information anywhere? I cannot find it anywhere It's here: http://ROUTERIP/help/license.html I agree with you on this subject. Perhaps it is just a mis-understanding. I'll ask about it offline. I can't speak for Tranzeo, as I've never used their product. If they are truly being silent in response to queries, that speaks volumes. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC licensing
Hi, What is the required notification distance on 18ghz licensing? I have a tower with 18ghz links, and just found a new tower that went up about 20 miles away with 18ghz and yet I never received notification. Is there a certain distance that they don't notify? Also, how does one go about finding if a 18ghz or 11ghz link has been licensed with the FCC? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing
Travis Johnson wrote: What is the required notification distance on 18ghz licensing? I have a tower with 18ghz links, and just found a new tower that went up about 20 miles away with 18ghz and yet I never received notification. Is there a certain distance that they don't notify? Did you do all the licensing yourself? Most smaller operators tend to just let someone else handle the paperwork; if you go that route, chances are that firm, not you, got any licensing notifications. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing
Also don't forget property tax. A dollar buyout, usually means the buyer owns it, and the purchase is subject to personal property tax. (which in our county comes close to 3% per year). In a Fair Market Value Lease buyer does not need to pay PPT. Note: In FMV leases the Leasor may not necessarilly pay PPT either, because PPT is usually paid on assets that reside in the state the tax is applicable. As well, with dollar Buyout, buyers may not necessarilly pay PPT if equipment is deployed in a state that does not charge/assess PPT on wireless infrastructure. PPT can be a huge burden on how a WISP needs to tracks its purchases. What General Ledger account purchases apply to for PPT purposes would be different depending on what state the equipment would be used in. The risk is... If you don't report PPT on your purchases, it brings up a flag, that you likely would have sold it instead, and be applicable for Sales Tax, which is higher. Tax Auditors don;t really understand that WISPs exist with the situation that all purchased owned property, might actually be NON-Taxable because of special provision made so WISPs don't have to pay PPT on those assets. So FMV leasing gets rid of all that tracking headache. We personally prefer $1 Buyout, but it does create challenges for PPT tracking. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing Marlon, The difference with fair market value leasing is that you get to deduct the full amount of each monthly payment because it's a true lease... so you don't have to depreciate the equipment and deal with tax law changes every year and wonder if you are going to be over or under the limit, etc. Some leases are going to work better for some companies than others. This year, because of tax law changes for 2008, we actually will bump right up against the new limit of taking the full deduction on our equipment purchases. Check with your accountant on which type of lease is best for your company. Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We use bank money when ever we can. No surprises that way. I've leased gear from Tiger Leasing in the past. Steve is great. Make sure that you nail down the buyout. I usually shoot for $1.00 buyouts. At the very least a fixed number. None of that fair market value crap. They get to pick that number, not you. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Equip Leasing Does anyone have a good relationship with a reputable equipment leasing firm? If so, who are you using? Thanks Chris Cooper This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing
Actually, 3dbnetwork's post was appropriate because The link was to a helpful FAQ on leasing. (They aren;t a leasing company, they are an equipment seller). The information learned from that link could have applied to be used for purchases from any hardware vendor. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing Please do not Advertise on the list! This is not permitted. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* 3-dB Networks wrote: Yes... Everyone check out our website article here. http://www.3dbnetworks.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=126 It describes in detail the various funding options out there and why you should choose each option. It was written by Todd Bergstrom, the former CEO of Mesa Networks and the CEO of 3-dB Networks. If you go here http://www.3dbnetworks.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=128 We have a link and some information about the company we used for our financing when we were Mesa, Landmark Financial. They are a great company to work with, and truly understand the WISP industry. If you need some Motorola gear for that financing, we may be able to work out a special deal for you... Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:07 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Equip Leasing Does anyone have a good relationship with a reputable equipment leasing firm? If so, who are you using? Thanks Chris Cooper This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISPCON
I really enjoyed your poker party last seasons before the CEO session. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu (CTI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Who's going? We are thinking of throwing a networking party / reception there on Wednesday night (right before ISP-CEO) Wanted to know who'd be there to see if there's any interest out there -Charles Charles Wu President [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 773-457-0718 * office: 847-346-0990 x2500 16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 * tel: 847.326.0990 fax: 847.346.0991 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing
I have always received notifications via USPS in the past (even just a week ago for another company doing some 18ghz stuff in my area). Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: Travis Johnson wrote: What is the "required" notification distance on 18ghz licensing? I have a tower with 18ghz links, and just found a new tower that went up about 20 miles away with 18ghz and yet I never received notification. Is there a certain distance that they don't notify? Did you do all the licensing yourself? Most smaller operators tend to just let someone else handle the paperwork; if you go that route, chances are that firm, not you, got any licensing notifications. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing
They might not be licensed. Go past the transmitter site, get the gps coordinates and enter them into the FCC search site and see what comes up Wouldn't be the first unlicensed licensed link I have seen -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:18:47 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISPCON
Who would want to party with IPpay??? I hear those guys parties are terrible! :) -Jeff General Manager CTI (773) 667-4585 x2509 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISPCON I really enjoyed your poker party last seasons before the CEO session. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu (CTI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Who's going? We are thinking of throwing a networking party / reception there on Wednesday night (right before ISP-CEO) Wanted to know who'd be there to see if there's any interest out there -Charles Charles Wu President [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 773-457-0718 * office: 847-346-0990 x2500 16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 * tel: 847.326.0990 fax: 847.346.0991 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] star os help
Had a call from Justin at Unwired West this am. I think we're in good shape. Stupid me, I forgot to even look for the simple stuff. This site is always picking up nasty interference and I had changed out 2 other ap's recently. If I'd have looked at my usage graphs I'd have seen that someone picked up a virus or something this last Sunday afternoon. They burnt through 90 gigs of traffic since then. Blocked the customer and everyone else seems to be fine now. Thanks again Justin! marlon - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] star os help Marlon... call Matt Larsen. I know he knows Star OS inside and out Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:06 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] star os help Importance: High Hi All, I have a StarOS system that's running slow. It's probably an interference issue but I'm not good enough with these units to figure out what channels to use based on scans etc. I'd also like some help with tweaks etc. Who would be a good consultant or operator to hire to help with this? This is somewhat urgent. I've tried to fix it myself a couple of times now and I'm not doing much good. Thanks, marlon 509.988.0260 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] star os help
Grin. Too true. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] star os help Told ya Marlon. Told ya so :-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:05:14 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] star os help Marlon... call Matt Larsen. I know he knows Star OS inside and out Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:06 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] star os help Importance: High Hi All, I have a StarOS system that's running slow. It's probably an interference issue but I'm not good enough with these units to figure out what channels to use based on scans etc. I'd also like some help with tweaks etc. Who would be a good consultant or operator to hire to help with this? This is somewhat urgent. I've tried to fix it myself a couple of times now and I'm not doing much good. Thanks, marlon 509.988.0260 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] star os help
Thanks John! I think I'm good though. We'll know more in a couple of days. It's amazing how much damage one customer can do when you aren't looking at things. It's also amazing how much damage these networks will tolerate. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: John Valenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] star os help hi Marlon, I don't know of any paid StarOS consultants. (I get most of my ideas from the StarOS forum at www.staros.com) Are both ends StarOS? If so, I would be happy to look at it for you for free. (but I would only grade myself B based on my two years of using staros -- there are several very sharp people on the forum) If only one end is StarOS, I would still look at it, but am less confident of my abilities. -John Maple River Networks Laingsburg Michigan PS - thanks for your years of hard work supporting WISPs! On Oct 30, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, I have a StarOS system that's running slow. It's probably an interference issue but I'm not good enough with these units to figure out what channels to use based on scans etc. I'd also like some help with tweaks etc. Who would be a good consultant or operator to hire to help with this? This is somewhat urgent. I've tried to fix it myself a couple of times now and I'm not doing much good. Thanks, marlon 509.988.0260 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Is it Friday yet?
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Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing
Did you confirm whether the user actually licensed their gear that they installed? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing I have always received notifications via USPS in the past (even just a week ago for another company doing some 18ghz stuff in my area). Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: Travis Johnson wrote: What is the required notification distance on 18ghz licensing? I have a tower with 18ghz links, and just found a new tower that went up about 20 miles away with 18ghz and yet I never received notification. Is there a certain distance that they don't notify? Did you do all the licensing yourself? Most smaller operators tend to just let someone else handle the paperwork; if you go that route, chances are that firm, not you, got any licensing notifications. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing
Is there allot of this going on? John Buwa Michiana Wireless - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 6:23:45 PM GMT -05:00 Columbia Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing Did you confirm whether the user actually licensed their gear that they installed? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing I have always received notifications via USPS in the past (even just a week ago for another company doing some 18ghz stuff in my area). Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: Travis Johnson wrote: What is the required notification distance on 18ghz licensing? I have a tower with 18ghz links, and just found a new tower that went up about 20 miles away with 18ghz and yet I never received notification. Is there a certain distance that they don't notify? Did you do all the licensing yourself? Most smaller operators tend to just let someone else handle the paperwork; if you go that route, chances are that firm, not you, got any licensing notifications. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo
postage gone, and we deliver it (nearly free) at the customer expense ! ... make that at our expense. Usage based billing keeps looking better and better to me. Frontier, Comcast, and Time Warner are already on the bandwagon. I hear ATT is experimenting with it too. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:19:43 -0700 Netflix and TiVo are getting together.. more bandwidth anybody? Labor and postage gone, and we deliver it (nearly free) at the customer expense ! http://tinyurl.com/6286v8 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing
I'd argue probably not a lot. (Due to potential fines from the FCC if reported). But I'd argue it would be likely to occur more frequently, now that Licesned equipment has come down so much in price, and becomming more mainstream use, and newbies might feel compelled to perform RD, before putting up the licensing cash. (even though there are experimental licensing options, thats timely). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing Is there allot of this going on? John Buwa Michiana Wireless - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 6:23:45 PM GMT -05:00 Columbia Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing Did you confirm whether the user actually licensed their gear that they installed? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing I have always received notifications via USPS in the past (even just a week ago for another company doing some 18ghz stuff in my area). Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: Travis Johnson wrote: What is the required notification distance on 18ghz licensing? I have a tower with 18ghz links, and just found a new tower that went up about 20 miles away with 18ghz and yet I never received notification. Is there a certain distance that they don't notify? Did you do all the licensing yourself? Most smaller operators tend to just let someone else handle the paperwork; if you go that route, chances are that firm, not you, got any licensing notifications. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo
Yup. We are as well. John Buwa -Original Message- From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:28 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo postage gone, and we deliver it (nearly free) at the customer expense ! .. make that at our expense. Usage based billing keeps looking better and better to me. Frontier, Comcast, and Time Warner are already on the bandwagon. I hear ATT is experimenting with it too. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:19:43 -0700 Netflix and TiVo are getting together.. more bandwidth anybody? Labor and postage gone, and we deliver it (nearly free) at the customer expense ! http://tinyurl.com/6286v8 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo
Who is to blame for this all you can eat fiasco? My guess would be AOL back in the dialup days. I just can't seem to believe that the telco's followed suit, of course back then, the FCC rules were a little different. I guess the buffet has spread over to the broadband times. Not much you could do on dial-up at buffet level..when all speeds were basically the same and you could guess at bandwidth based on the amount of backbone bandwidth you had available compared to ports, but now it makes it hard to predict usage levels if you have various bandwidth plans. I think some applications have bypassed the amount of bandwidth we have available to us to stay in business. Of course, I operate in BFE where a 2XT1 cost over $1300/mth. The FCC thinks these new apps foster innovation...but it just spreads the digital divide even further IMHO. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:44:05 -0500 I think the problem is until the big boys change, us little guys can't change to a metered system. Right now cable, DSL, licensed WiMax, etc. are all unlimited usage. There is no way I could change to a pay per byte model without losing a ton of customers. Exactly. For those imposing bit caps where is the bit cap at? Here comcast is doing a 250GB bit cap then you here some of there customers whining how thats not fair. No way I can afford a 250GB per month user. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISPCON
Where is it? Sorry I may have missed an existing post? Scott -- Original Message -- From: Layne Sisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:04:11 -0700 ServerPlus is exhibiting and will be there. I am always up for one of your parties Charles ;-). -Layne Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext. 102 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu (CTI) Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Who's going? We are thinking of throwing a networking party / reception there on Wednesday night (right before ISP-CEO) Wanted to know who'd be there to see if there's any interest out there -Charles Charles Wu President [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 773-457-0718 * office: 847-346-0990 x2500 16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 * tel: 847.326.0990 fax: 847.346.0991 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISPCON
ISPCON FALL 2008 November 11 - 13, 2008 McEnery San Jose Convention Center San Jose, CA Found here: http://www.ispcon.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Where is it? Sorry I may have missed an existing post? Scott -- Original Message -- From: Layne Sisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:04:11 -0700 ServerPlus is exhibiting and will be there. I am always up for one of your parties Charles ;-). -Layne Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext. 102 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu (CTI) Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ISPCON Who's going? We are thinking of throwing a networking party / reception there on Wednesday night (right before ISP-CEO) Wanted to know who'd be there to see if there's any interest out there -Charles Charles Wu President [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 773-457-0718 * office: 847-346-0990 x2500 16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 * tel: 847.326.0990 fax: 847.346.0991 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 630-344-1586. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3
Randy, Thanks for the link. Turns out we are ok since we leave all our settings at default, but it could have been very important. I wasn't aware of Ubnt doing any testing with MT. That's just good knowledge - thanks. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3 Also, when working with UBNT cards and Mikrotik, be sure you are adjusting for correct power settings. See http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/ubi_mtik_power.pdf for a pretty thorough explanation. Randy Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I use the brazil country code. On the main wireless tab under frequency mode make sure that you have selected manual_txpower instead of regulatory domain or it will try to limit your power due to local regulatory laws without you knowing. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:45 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3 We are testing a 3.65 GHz setup with MT and XR3 using a 11 dBi Omni and 14 dBi panel. My results are not really impressive with signal levels. However, In order to use 3663 MHz you must set the card for 5770 MHz and 5770 MHz is not available unless you purchase a special frequency license for each ap and cpe from MT. However someone on the list pointed out that selecting a different country other than the good old USA would allow you to select the 5770 Mhz frequency. This is true and we used the Germany 5ghz ptp setting for country and we now have the needed 5770 Mhz frequency available for selection. So now I am starting to wonder if this may be the reason we are getting less than anticipated results with signal levels. So now finally the real question I am asking; is there really a difference between purchasing a special frequency license from MT and using the cheat of selecting a different country in order to select 5770 Mhz? Isn't 5770 Mhz still 5770 Mhz no matter what? Thanks, John Buwa Michiana Wireless - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1748 - Release Date: 10/26/2008 7:53 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Sorry but I thought it had too much pertaining to us: FWD: 10.29 :: Boo! :: Is BandwidthCrunch a new candy bar for Halloween? :: The Zombies still benefiting from the Sony Bono Act :: RIP: C
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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3
Hmm... Under the Brazil country code 5770 is not available? Michiana Wireless, Inc. John Buwa, President http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com 574-233-7170 Lose the wires, discover the speed, enjoy the freedom! *US Distributor for www.itelite.net Antennas* ** Now available 3.65 Ghz sectors, patch and radio pouch antennas ** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:37 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3 I use the brazil country code. On the main wireless tab under frequency mode make sure that you have selected manual_txpower instead of regulatory domain or it will try to limit your power due to local regulatory laws without you knowing. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:45 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3 We are testing a 3.65 GHz setup with MT and XR3 using a 11 dBi Omni and 14 dBi panel. My results are not really impressive with signal levels. However, In order to use 3663 MHz you must set the card for 5770 MHz and 5770 MHz is not available unless you purchase a special frequency license for each ap and cpe from MT. However someone on the list pointed out that selecting a different country other than the good old USA would allow you to select the 5770 Mhz frequency. This is true and we used the Germany 5ghz ptp setting for country and we now have the needed 5770 Mhz frequency available for selection. So now I am starting to wonder if this may be the reason we are getting less than anticipated results with signal levels. So now finally the real question I am asking; is there really a difference between purchasing a special frequency license from MT and using the cheat of selecting a different country in order to select 5770 Mhz? Isn't 5770 Mhz still 5770 Mhz no matter what? Thanks, John Buwa Michiana Wireless --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3
status: running-ap band: 5ghz frequency: 5770MHz noise-floor: -98dBm overall-tx-ccq: 31% registered-clients: 0 authenticated-clients: 0 nstreme: yes polling: yes csma-disabled: no current-tx-powers: 6Mbps:23(16),9Mbps:23(16),12Mbps:23(16), 18Mbps:23(16),24Mbps:23(16),36Mbps:21(14), 48Mbps:19(12),54Mbps:18(11) notify-external-fdb: no Michiana Wireless, Inc. John Buwa, President http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com 574-233-7170 Lose the wires, discover the speed, enjoy the freedom! *US Distributor for www.itelite.net Antennas* ** Now available 3.65 Ghz sectors, patch and radio pouch antennas ** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3 Hi, Changing the country code is the same as buying the Custom Frequency license. What does your power output table show on the AP and CPE side? What kind of signals are you getting? Travis Microserv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are testing a 3.65 GHz setup with MT and XR3 using a 11 dBi Omni and 14 dBi panel. My results are not really impressive with signal levels. However, In order to use 3663 MHz you must set the card for 5770 MHz and 5770 MHz is not available unless you purchase a special frequency license for each ap and cpe from MT. However someone on the list pointed out that selecting a different country other than the good old USA would allow you to select the 5770 Mhz frequency. This is true and we used the Germany 5ghz ptp setting for country and we now have the needed 5770 Mhz frequency available for selection. So now I am starting to wonder if this may be the reason we are getting less than anticipated results with signal levels. So now finally the real question I am asking; is there really a difference between purchasing a special frequency license from MT and using the cheat of selecting a different country in order to select 5770 Mhz? Isn't 5770 Mhz still 5770 Mhz no matter what? Thanks, John Buwa Michiana Wireless - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3
Oh Wow. That was good reading. Especially about the offset. I had no idea my XR9 Cells was losing 10db of signal out of the default MT setup. I made the manual adjustments and some of those questionable links shaped right up :) Thanks! Michiana Wireless, Inc. John Buwa, President http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com 574-233-7170 Lose the wires, discover the speed, enjoy the freedom! *US Distributor for www.itelite.net Antennas* ** Now available 3.65 Ghz sectors, patch and radio pouch antennas ** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3 Also, when working with UBNT cards and Mikrotik, be sure you are adjusting for correct power settings. See http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/ubi_mtik_power.pdf for a pretty thorough explanation. Randy Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I use the brazil country code. On the main wireless tab under frequency mode make sure that you have selected manual_txpower instead of regulatory domain or it will try to limit your power due to local regulatory laws without you knowing. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:45 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3 We are testing a 3.65 GHz setup with MT and XR3 using a 11 dBi Omni and 14 dBi panel. My results are not really impressive with signal levels. However, In order to use 3663 MHz you must set the card for 5770 MHz and 5770 MHz is not available unless you purchase a special frequency license for each ap and cpe from MT. However someone on the list pointed out that selecting a different country other than the good old USA would allow you to select the 5770 Mhz frequency. This is true and we used the Germany 5ghz ptp setting for country and we now have the needed 5770 Mhz frequency available for selection. So now I am starting to wonder if this may be the reason we are getting less than anticipated results with signal levels. So now finally the real question I am asking; is there really a difference between purchasing a special frequency license from MT and using the cheat of selecting a different country in order to select 5770 Mhz? Isn't 5770 Mhz still 5770 Mhz no matter what? Thanks, John Buwa Michiana Wireless - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
