Re: [WISPA] Survey Comments: 2. Do you see value in raising WISPA feesto allow for more efficient lobbying efforts with the FCC andother Government Entities

Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Got the FCC to agree that a routed group of individual AP's could fall under the same higher powered 2.4ghz rules as active antennas. Too bad no one built and certified a system of 8 or 10 ap's with very narrow sectors (how about 24db grids :-). Did you guys kn

Re: [WISPA] U.S. Adults Choosing Internet Over Sex

The wife's in bed and I'm still...responding to message on this listserv =/ -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:57 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] U.S. A

[WISPA] U.S. Adults Choosing Internet Over Sex

http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/reporting/showArticle.jhtml?art icleID=212500440&subSection=News Thought this article was pretty funny reading... So wanted to share it.. / Eje WISPA Wants You! Joi

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

> > On to the CPE: This is one of the worst designs of a CPE that I have > ever seen. The entire unit is made by Tranzeo and looks just like their > normal 2.4 CPE. It has the bar of lights on the top showing Power, LAN, > RSSI, etc. The mounting bracket is the "L" bracket that bolts to the > back

Re: [WISPA] Survey Comments: 2. Do you see value in raising WISPA feesto allow for more efficient lobbying efforts with the FCC andother Government Entities

Comments inline: > 9. I'm conflicted on this. I'm not sure WISPA is having > any real effect, but I'm not sure they are not. [We believe we had a > major > impact in the TV Whitespaces NPRM and outcome, it has taught us the > importance of strong legal counsel in Washington DC

Re: [WISPA] Colored Lanyards

Try going to Tessco's website and search "lanyard". At a quick glance I see red, yellow and black. http://tessco.com Note that the pictures there have been inaccurate for me in the past. They have EXCELLENT 24/7 service (limited after hours by the lack of tech support staff, though). Josh Luth

Re: [WISPA] Colored Lanyards

A few different colors, they might be able to help you: http://www.midwestunlimited.com/gallery.lasso?cat_master=1002&cat_level=1023 Daniel White 3-dB Networks > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen >

[WISPA] Colored Lanyards

I'd like to pick up some new nylon web lanyards for tower work but was hoping to get something other than the common yellow. I think it'd be an extra layer of safety to have different colored lanyards - if they're all the same color it's easier to get them mixed up which one you're clipping or

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo TR902 "missing" features

Those among many other advanced things are why I am using Mikrotik over Tranzeo on the software aspect. Please hear our plea, Tranzeo! On 12/15/08, John Valenti wrote: > I started using Tranzeo for 900MHz a few months back. When they work, > they seem to do pretty well. But I'm having trouble de

Re: [WISPA] SkyWi Sues Qwest for Racketeering &Monopolistic Practices

I wish someone would beat them in court. We're trying to beat them in the marketplace: http://www.oregonfast.net/gofast/Radio/09-17-08%20fire%20your%20phone%20company%20mixed.mp3 George Ron Harden wrote: > That worked...thx George. This is another example of the Bells flexing > their anti-comp

[WISPA] Tranzeo TR902 "missing" features

I started using Tranzeo for 900MHz a few months back. When they work, they seem to do pretty well. But I'm having trouble debugging them. I haven't found a method for the following, maybe I'm missing something? - login to the client (or even AP) radio, use ping to check connectivity o

Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues

Tried rebooting the AP and changing channels yet? Do you have the capability to try a CPE of your own in a good position both near and far from the tower? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy wrote: > There are 12 clients total on the AP > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mai

Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues

There are 12 clients total on the AP -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues All of the CPEs

Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues

All of the CPEs on that one AP? Or all of the Tranzeo CPEs on that AP? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy wrote: > 12, all Tranzeo CPQ except one. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Monday, Decem

Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues

12, all Tranzeo CPQ except one. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues Multiple CPEs o

Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Winter connectivity issues

Multiple CPEs on the same AP? On 12/15/08, Mark McElvy wrote: > Signal levels are stable. Ping times are erratic and Customers complain > of slow internet. PPPoE will not stay connected. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65 update

Ill be trying john suggestion to verify Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, December

Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues

have you tried different channels? Mark McElvy wrote: Signal levels are stable. Ping times are erratic and Customers complain of slow internet. PPPoE will not stay connected. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65 update

The line I've heard from the Wimax companies is that the latency may be higher, but the jitter is very low -- ie: you'll get the same latency consistently, and that's good for voip / video. Randy Travis Johnson wrote: > So did you get your latency down from 30-40ms? I remember you were > havi

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65 update

So did you get your latency down from 30-40ms? I remember you were having the same problem a few weeks ago with the Redline stuff? Travis Gino Villarini wrote: > its all part of how the Wimax MAC works ..., > > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > t

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65 update

its all part of how the Wimax MAC works ..., Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sen

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65 update

Actually the ping times went to 60ms with those changes. Travis John Scrivner wrote: Switch to 1/4 carrier and 10 ms. I bet it clears up. Scriv On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: We tried them all... best effort, non-polling real time, and polling real t

Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues

Signal levels are stable. Ping times are erratic and Customers complain of slow internet. PPPoE will not stay connected. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues

In my experience water in the connector makes the RSSI drop from mid -60s to -90s Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:59 P

Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues

The ones that seem to have issues are close and LOS the further ones seem to be ok. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISP

Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues

Are any of your links not line of sight? I have to back off power on some of my clients because in the summer they are fine but in the winter when the leaves fall off I get a lot of multi-path which causes poor performance. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.w

Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues

Water in connectors. When it freezes it crystalizes and gives a poor connection. Maybe a cracked/broken antenna with moisture incursion. Antennas on towers are subject to falling ice regardless of the type of antenna. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "M

Re: [WISPA] Weather proofing antennas

Sorry about all the typos in my earlier post. As I mentioned, we use the wx2100. Over the weekend I had the pleasure of visiting one of our tower sites after a couple of day with freezing rain. I noticed that there was almost no ice on any of our dishes. Our neighbor seemed to have ice on his. The

[WISPA] Winter connectivity issues

I have 4 tower locations, only one seems to be having issues. Last week, then today I have a few customers on one tower having slow connection issues. High ping times from less than 1 ms to 4-500ms with packet loss. The one complaining customer has a -56 @ client end and -60 @ AP. The common denomi

Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

Yep, Ricks session was WispCon3 Specialized - Do It Yourself Tower Installations - A Case History - This is a step by step trials and tribulations of one WISPs experience in erecting his own, large tower. Panelists: Rick Kunze Moderator: Jeremy Kinsey Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc

Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

Yeah that is right. I slept since then. Only one that I could think of was Rick that had done one but yes Jeremy did one to I think it was at an earlier WISPCon then Rick. I think Rick did his on WISPCon III. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

I have a license and registered site. I'm about to find out exactly how the FCC intends to deal with this. The site owner is a bandwidth provider, and they signed a frequency coordination agreement with someone else, but I got my license and site first. The "other' guy is objecting to my using

Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

ah. Yeah, I'm not sure if I was at WISPCON 2 or not... 3 may have been my earliest, actually. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Tom DeReggi" Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:42 PM To: "WISPA G

Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

My understanding is that Rick also did a session, but it was a second one at a different season of WISPCON, I think. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, December 15,

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

LOL but why would I... I'm not a WISP so I'll never deploy gear. Maybe it impresses girls ;-) Daniel White 3-dB Networks > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:12

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] High CRC errors on RedMax?

Have you got that file? On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > 2.1.8.FCCMade on: Sep 4 2008, 14:15:50 > Also, we are using AN-100UX's not U's. > > -Eric > > John McDowell wrote: > > What code are you on? We're running 2.0.26.FCC > > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:02 PM, E

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] High CRC errors on RedMax?

2.1.8.FCCMade on: Sep 4 2008, 14:15:50 Also, we are using AN-100UX's not U's. -Eric John McDowell wrote: > What code are you on? We're running 2.0.26.FCC > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Eric Muehleisen > wrote: > > I've seen this when there is a bad SU r

Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

Odd, I swear that was Rick. Oh well... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Tom DeReggi" Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:44 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection questi

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

Bring out your credit card and go get one. Run you a wooping $260 and take you about 10min to do. ;) /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "3-dB Networks" Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:04:18 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65 I don't have

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] High CRC errors on RedMax?

What code are you on? We're running 2.0.26.FCC On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > I've seen this when there is a bad SU registered. CRC's climb out of > control. I have not seen this on multiple SU's before. It's typically > singled out. Have you rebooted the AP recently.

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] High CRC errors on RedMax?

I've seen this when there is a bad SU registered. CRC's climb out of control. I have not seen this on multiple SU's before. It's typically singled out. Have you rebooted the AP recently. I'm running the latest beta code and have experience a couple of lockups over the past couple of months. -E

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65 update

Switch to 1/4 carrier and 10 ms. I bet it clears up. Scriv On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: > We tried them all... best effort, non-polling real time, and polling > real time. All the same latency. We are also using 5ms frame and 1/8 > carrier. > > Travis > > > Gino Villa

[WISPA] High CRC errors on RedMax?

Are there any RedMax operators out there that have begun to see really high CRC errors on their sectors? We've got two sectors that have seemingly gone from very clean to abnormally high CRC errors, effecting calls and slowing Internet speeds etc? We have a ticket open with redline support but I wa

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65 update

We tried them all... best effort, non-polling real time, and polling real time. All the same latency. We are also using 5ms frame and 1/8 carrier. Travis Gino Villarini wrote: > What QOS are you using on that conenction? Berst effort? > > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wir

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65 update

I get 10 ms on every packet every time with no loss. I am using Redline with non-real time polling. Scriv On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > What QOS are you using on that conenction? Berst effort? > > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65 update

What QOS are you using on that conenction? Berst effort? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent:

[WISPA] Vecima 3.65 update

Hi, Ok... we mounted the base station yesterday and put up the CPE at our office this morning. It's a 7 mile shot, and we have a -77 RSSI running at 16QAM. We are able to get up to 6Mbps x 6Mbps right now (can't do more because the base station has a limit of 6Mbps per CPE set right now). Here

Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

Nope, the presentation I was referring to was WISPCONII day 3. Specialized - Building Your Own Tower - Learn how to select a site, pick the right tower, get construction approval, order all the components, and actually install your own communications tower. Also in this presentation the at

Re: [WISPA] SkyWi Sues Qwest for Racketeering &Monopolistic Practices

That worked...thx George. This is another example of the Bells flexing their anti-competitive muscle. :( -Original Message- From: George Rogato [mailto:wi...@oregonfast.net] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SkyWi Sues Qwest for Rack

Re: [WISPA] SkyWi Sues Qwest for Racketeering & Monopolistic Practices

Ron Try this one: http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2008/12/09/3844370.htm I think market watch url might have some session limitations. George Ron Harden wrote: > George: When I click on the link that you sent I get a Market Watch header, > but a "document not found" message in the body of the na

Re: [WISPA] SkyWi Sues Qwest for Racketeering & MonopolisticPractices

I had the same. I just added } or the rest of the link. Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ron Harden Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:10 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] SkyWi Sue

Re: [WISPA] SkyWi Sues Qwest for Racketeering & Monopolistic Practices

George: When I click on the link that you sent I get a Market Watch header, but a "document not found" message in the body of the narrative. FYI...Ron -Original Message- From: George Rogato [mailto:wi...@oregonfast.net] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:42 AM To: wireless@wispa.org S

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

I don't have a license to do it with :-) Daniel White 3-dB Networks > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:00 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

This is easy to confirm, just go ahead an register a base on a know site Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

Not sure how I can prove it... being that I didn't actually go through this but its what one of our customers told us (and they are not on the list). Daniel White 3-dB Networks > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Patri

[WISPA] SkyWi Sues Qwest for Racketeering & Monopolistic Practices

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/SkyWi-Sues-Qwest-Racketeering-Monopolistic/story.aspx?guid={4118C3E4-CBC0-4B7B-ABA0-9E041B08A68A} Think they will win? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

I have always assumed multiple operators could register the same site too. Though I was skeptical (and remain so), Remi was really emphatic that the same site could not be registered and he mentioned that the Part 90 rule has some language that prevents multiple registrations. Like you, I'd need pr

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

Hi, We are going to need specifics on this... because this is NOT what the FCC has said would happen nor is it what other people (at ISPCon) have said. There is another story of a telco that owns several of the "ground stations" that prevent others from registering 3.65 in that area... I wond

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

Patrick, Respectfully I have been told the exact opposite by a WISP that was going to do a large 3.65 deployment, except the local teleco registered all of the high ground in the area preventing them from registering their own sites. The teleco has no intention of deploying the gear, so now they a

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

Hi Travis, I wish I had specifics, but I don't have anything other than an anecdotal story told to me by Redline when I was at a conference. I had always been under the impression an operator could register for the same locations. Patrick From: wireless-boun...

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

Patrick, Could you please share the exact information about the FCC rejecting applications for the same tower? At ISPCon a month ago, there were several people there that had deployed 3.65 and had even registered on the same tower as other 3.65 people and the applications went through just fin

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

I'll chime in with a few comments: I admit to having been frustrated by the requirements in the 3.65 GHz ruling by the ambiguity of the cooperation requirements and for sure there are no first in rights. However, what I am seeing thus far in practice is that first movers do enjoy a meaningful adva

Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

That would have been Rick Kunze. http://www.do-it-yourself-tower.com/ Where is he, anyway? I haven't heard from him in a long itme... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Tom DeReggi" Sent: Sunday

Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65

I can say for the Tranzeo weather proofing rj45 setup is ok.. I haven't had any problems with it seeping water. We have been using these for 4 years (note I am knocking on wood right now) :) Thomas P Galla t...@bluegrass.net BluegrassNet Voice (502) 589.INET [4638] Fax 502-315-0581 321 Eas

Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

Wasn't it Rick Kunse (not sure spelling of last name the guy with the speed boat? I just did the base for a 120ft tower. Concrete, rebar, dirt work ran $8200 could gotten it a little cheaper but that guy was taking way to long on a different job so went with another company that cost a bit more