Re: [WISPA] Nifty Outdoor Switch..

2009-04-28 Thread Brad Belton 
Yes, I see that.  It is a neat product, but not of much use for our needs.
First, because it only has five ports.  Second, because it's a switch and we
prefer to route.

Gino and I were just day dreaming of a more esoteric multi-port DC Injector
on steroids.  Not really holding my breath that we'll ever see such a
critter...possibly due to guys like  Travis  that would only
put a $19.95 value on something like it.  

For better or worse (mostly better, other than the cost) our typical HUB
site equipment is located in the roof penthouse or designated radio room
inside a cabinet, so "outdoor" gear other than the antennas or radios
themselves is not required in most cases for us.  That is why I was hoping
for a rack mount multi-port PoE device with a feature set similar to what
Gino & I outlined earlier in this thread.

Best,


Brad


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nifty Outdoor Switch..

It's an oudoor unit Brad.  You don't even need an electrical box on the 
"tower" for this unit.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Brad Belton" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nifty Outdoor Switch..


> This is an interesting product.  Amazing nobody else has produced 
> something
> like it yet.  Too bad it only has five ports...eight or sixteen would be
> much more desirable.
>
>
> Or even better would be a 2U rack mount device with 24 RJ45 ports.  12 
> ports
> for the "Data IN" and 12 ports for the "Data & Power OUT".  Each port 
> would
> be software configurable for voltage/polarity and provide up to 1200mA @
> 24VDC per port.  Voltage options would be 12VDC, 24VDC, 48VDC and standard
> 802.3af.
>
> It would include "Auto Ping" and remote management.  This would not be a
> switch, but simply a multi-port DC injector with multi-voltage/polarity
> support and remote management.  Throw redundant power supplies into this
> device and you'd have a winner IMO.  
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:47 AM
> To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nifty Outdoor Switch..
>
> Cheaper than all of the parts separately.
>
> It'll also do auto reboots!  This is a VERY clever unit.
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Scott Carullo" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nifty Outdoor Switch..
>
>
>> $700 no thanks
>>
>> Its called a RB450G for $150
>>
>> Scott Carullo
>> Brevard Wireless
>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>
>>  Original Message 
>>> From: "Gino Villarini" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 7:05 PM
>>> To: "WISPA General List" , "Motorola Canopy User
>> Group" 
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Nifty Outdoor Switch..
>>>
>>> Found this nice outdoor switch, multi power POE capable
>>>
>>> Nice for small pops
>>>
>>> anyone used it?
>>>
>>> http://www.inscapedata.com/pdf/LPS1000.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
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Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping

2009-04-28 Thread Scottie Arnett 
Unfortunately there is a way around this...Make all broadband providers provide 
477 data themselves and not use 3rd parties, and check it(sure like they did 
computer inquires I, II, and II)...bet that will never happen.

I agree with Brian, under some circumstances. I know big business and much 
money goes under the table...even little guys can be persuaded to make 
adjustments! Along with the thoughts above, if they do not have the personnel 
available to police it, hire a smaller guy that can. The smaller guy has to 
provide financial statements for up to X amount of years and have strict 
accounting practices. The X amount of years should not be divulged to other 
people. But, that is never gonna happen either! What a government we have, lol.

If any of you know the the Acts(I know Fred does) the Computer Inquires Acts 
were never enforced in practicality..and I do not see it happening here either. 
In the end, I would put everything I own, that the "BIG GUYS" will end up with 
everything that is "just" measurable.

Scott

-- Original Message --
From: "Brian Webster" 
Reply-To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com, WISPA General List 
Date:  Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:09:11 -0400

>Amen Rick
>
>I've always maintained the thought that the 350 Million was another back
>door political payback to the Telco and cable companies via Connected
>Nation. With the fact that this funding gets put out there and then the data
>never really becomes available because of the NDA's signed, it just smells
>like a pork barrel project to me. Your explanation just backs up that idea.
>
>If you want to map broadband, go to a small organization like myself. We can
>do the work for tenths of a penny on the dollar these guys are quoting. You
>just build that cost in to the rest of your stimulus project and move on.
>Trying to take on Connected Nation is a losing battle. Just step around them
>and move forward..there are plenty of ways to map the competitive
>broadband in a market without proprietary data and you can successfully do
>it to convince the organizations that are handing out money.
>
>
>
>Thank You,
>Brian Webster
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
>Behalf Of Rick Harnish
>Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:23 PM
>To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping
>
>
>Chris,
>
>It is my understanding that this bill was specifically written for Connected
>Nation.  In a conversation today in Indianapolis I was told that if you
>divide $350 million by 50 states you get $7,000,000 per state.  This is
>approximately 80% of the $9,000,000 contract they recently signed with Ohio
>or Tennessee.  The 80% number coincidentally matches up with the current
>thinking on the Broadband Stimulus Grants with 20% coming from the awardees
>and 80% coming from the Federal Government.  If this assumption is correct,
>it didn't take Connected Nation long to come up with a number to present to
>the legislators that sponsored the bill.
>
>I'm not saying that this funding won't be allocated to other grantees but I
>have been told that it will be extremely difficult to buck this legislation
>given the current political clout that Connected Nation seems to have.  That
>is not to say that the states themselves will get control of the funding and
>will make those decisions separately.
>
>Respectfully,
>Rick Harnish
>
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of chris cooper
>Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:01 AM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: [WISPA] NTIA mapping
>
>There is a $350 million mapping component set aside under BTOP.  Will
>this funding be available in smaller chunks to successful grantees to
>map their expanded networks?  Will it be available to all wisps to map
>their existing networks in an effort to add to the overall national BB
>map?
>
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>
>Chris Cooper
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Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping

2009-04-28 Thread Brian Webster 
Amen Rick

I've always maintained the thought that the 350 Million was another back
door political payback to the Telco and cable companies via Connected
Nation. With the fact that this funding gets put out there and then the data
never really becomes available because of the NDA's signed, it just smells
like a pork barrel project to me. Your explanation just backs up that idea.

If you want to map broadband, go to a small organization like myself. We can
do the work for tenths of a penny on the dollar these guys are quoting. You
just build that cost in to the rest of your stimulus project and move on.
Trying to take on Connected Nation is a losing battle. Just step around them
and move forward..there are plenty of ways to map the competitive
broadband in a market without proprietary data and you can successfully do
it to convince the organizations that are handing out money.



Thank You,
Brian Webster



-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:23 PM
To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping


Chris,

It is my understanding that this bill was specifically written for Connected
Nation.  In a conversation today in Indianapolis I was told that if you
divide $350 million by 50 states you get $7,000,000 per state.  This is
approximately 80% of the $9,000,000 contract they recently signed with Ohio
or Tennessee.  The 80% number coincidentally matches up with the current
thinking on the Broadband Stimulus Grants with 20% coming from the awardees
and 80% coming from the Federal Government.  If this assumption is correct,
it didn't take Connected Nation long to come up with a number to present to
the legislators that sponsored the bill.

I'm not saying that this funding won't be allocated to other grantees but I
have been told that it will be extremely difficult to buck this legislation
given the current political clout that Connected Nation seems to have.  That
is not to say that the states themselves will get control of the funding and
will make those decisions separately.

Respectfully,
Rick Harnish

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of chris cooper
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:01 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] NTIA mapping

There is a $350 million mapping component set aside under BTOP.  Will
this funding be available in smaller chunks to successful grantees to
map their expanded networks?  Will it be available to all wisps to map
their existing networks in an effort to add to the overall national BB
map?



Chris Cooper

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Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping

2009-04-28 Thread Rick Harnish 
Chris, 

It is my understanding that this bill was specifically written for Connected
Nation.  In a conversation today in Indianapolis I was told that if you
divide $350 million by 50 states you get $7,000,000 per state.  This is
approximately 80% of the $9,000,000 contract they recently signed with Ohio
or Tennessee.  The 80% number coincidentally matches up with the current
thinking on the Broadband Stimulus Grants with 20% coming from the awardees
and 80% coming from the Federal Government.  If this assumption is correct,
it didn't take Connected Nation long to come up with a number to present to
the legislators that sponsored the bill.

I'm not saying that this funding won't be allocated to other grantees but I
have been told that it will be extremely difficult to buck this legislation
given the current political clout that Connected Nation seems to have.  That
is not to say that the states themselves will get control of the funding and
will make those decisions separately.  

Respectfully,
Rick Harnish

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of chris cooper
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:01 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] NTIA mapping

There is a $350 million mapping component set aside under BTOP.  Will
this funding be available in smaller chunks to successful grantees to
map their expanded networks?  Will it be available to all wisps to map
their existing networks in an effort to add to the overall national BB
map?

 

Chris Cooper

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[WISPA] hyperlink L bracket replacement

2009-04-28 Thread Kurt Fankhauser 

Does anyone make or know of an L bracket that will replace the standard one
that Hyperlink antennas ship with? I don't like how theirs are just painted
silver and rust quickly so I guess I am looking for ones that are Stainless
or Galvanized.
--
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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

2009-04-28 Thread os10rules 
Agreed. For a freebie router that's just to give a customer wireless  
it's not worth the bother. But if you have to do WDS on the customer  
side or if the user is a special client/family/friend and you are  
trying to do something a little different or special the other  
firmwares sometimes offer features that are necessary.


Greg
On Apr 28, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Steve Barnes wrote:

Maybe I am just missing something here but why in the world would  
you want to buy a bunch of SOHO routers and re-flash them to another  
OS?  I have seen this thread before on here and didn't have time to  
ask the reason. I have no time to mess with taking every unit out of  
a box and flash and test then reseal it and go to the next.  I buy  
20 Trendnet SOHO 802.11G basic routers for $28 each and drop them in  
the trucks.  Never had a bad one, they all come with a 5ft cable and  
just work.  If a customer wants a router then they pay $45.  If they  
need better distance than I get them a N router later.  Last thing I  
want to do is mess with them all.  Heck I hate programming radios.   
I am working on a plan to just stack Tranzeo's in the truck and  
upload the config from the laptop.


DLink = Lock up all the time at lease the WBR-1310, 30 min no power  
to reset. Have a pile in back room

Linksys = WRT54G ok but had 20 die in one month right at 2 years
Buffalo = was good all but the WHR-G125(junky design poor signal)  
didn't know was available again.

Trendnet = 130+ in field no return very few calls require reset.
TPLink = Good High power unit very adjustable only used 10 so far.  
Good USB wireless Adapter as well.


Steve Barnes
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

It doesn't appear the DIR-655 supports tftp firmware flashing. Too  
bad, that might have been a way to revert to the older firmware.

Another reason to say with the more open source Linux based boxes.

Greg

On Apr 28, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Dylan Oliver wrote:


I helped a friend with a D-Link DIR-655 yesterday and was shocked/
disgusted to find that although it HAD supported bridge mode in
firmware 1.05, this feature was removed in 1.10+ and of course it
wouldn't accept the older firmware as an upgrade. Must be some way  
but

a $90 router is only worth so much tinkering.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Josh Luthman
wrote:


Dlink has been pretty stable for me.  I like the GUI most of all as
it is emulated online, helps me walk through the person on the  
phone.


They all do take turns sucking the most, I agree, Rick.

--

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Primaverity, LLC
Sweeping Design LLC


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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

2009-04-28 Thread Steve Barnes 
Maybe I am just missing something here but why in the world would you want to 
buy a bunch of SOHO routers and re-flash them to another OS?  I have seen this 
thread before on here and didn't have time to ask the reason. I have no time to 
mess with taking every unit out of a box and flash and test then reseal it and 
go to the next.  I buy 20 Trendnet SOHO 802.11G basic routers for $28 each and 
drop them in the trucks.  Never had a bad one, they all come with a 5ft cable 
and just work.  If a customer wants a router then they pay $45.  If they need 
better distance than I get them a N router later.  Last thing I want to do is 
mess with them all.  Heck I hate programming radios.  I am working on a plan to 
just stack Tranzeo's in the truck and upload the config from the laptop.

DLink = Lock up all the time at lease the WBR-1310, 30 min no power to reset. 
Have a pile in back room
Linksys = WRT54G ok but had 20 die in one month right at 2 years
Buffalo = was good all but the WHR-G125(junky design poor signal) didn't know 
was available again.
Trendnet = 130+ in field no return very few calls require reset.
TPLink = Good High power unit very adjustable only used 10 so far. Good USB 
wireless Adapter as well.

Steve Barnes
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of os10ru...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

It doesn't appear the DIR-655 supports tftp firmware flashing. Too bad, that 
might have been a way to revert to the older firmware.  
Another reason to say with the more open source Linux based boxes.

Greg

On Apr 28, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Dylan Oliver wrote:

> I helped a friend with a D-Link DIR-655 yesterday and was shocked/ 
> disgusted to find that although it HAD supported bridge mode in 
> firmware 1.05, this feature was removed in 1.10+ and of course it 
> wouldn't accept the older firmware as an upgrade. Must be some way but 
> a $90 router is only worth so much tinkering.
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:
>
>> Dlink has been pretty stable for me.  I like the GUI most of all as 
>> it is emulated online, helps me walk through the person on the phone.
>>
>> They all do take turns sucking the most, I agree, Rick.
>>
>> --
> Dylan Oliver
> Primaverity, LLC
> Sweeping Design LLC
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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

2009-04-28 Thread Matt 
>> Buffalo gear was very hard to find in the US for the last few years,
>> due to the legal action against them. I see that was changed in
>> December, and you can buy Buffalo wifi gear again.
>
> Anything new on the lawsuit?

Answer my own question.

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/101510,csiro-patent-case-closes-with-secret-deals.aspx

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Re: [WISPA] Nifty Outdoor Switch..

2009-04-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer 
It's an oudoor unit Brad.  You don't even need an electrical box on the 
"tower" for this unit.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Brad Belton" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nifty Outdoor Switch..


> This is an interesting product.  Amazing nobody else has produced 
> something
> like it yet.  Too bad it only has five ports...eight or sixteen would be
> much more desirable.
>
>
> Or even better would be a 2U rack mount device with 24 RJ45 ports.  12 
> ports
> for the "Data IN" and 12 ports for the "Data & Power OUT".  Each port 
> would
> be software configurable for voltage/polarity and provide up to 1200mA @
> 24VDC per port.  Voltage options would be 12VDC, 24VDC, 48VDC and standard
> 802.3af.
>
> It would include "Auto Ping" and remote management.  This would not be a
> switch, but simply a multi-port DC injector with multi-voltage/polarity
> support and remote management.  Throw redundant power supplies into this
> device and you'd have a winner IMO.  
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:47 AM
> To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nifty Outdoor Switch..
>
> Cheaper than all of the parts separately.
>
> It'll also do auto reboots!  This is a VERY clever unit.
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Scott Carullo" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nifty Outdoor Switch..
>
>
>> $700 no thanks
>>
>> Its called a RB450G for $150
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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

2009-04-28 Thread Matt 
> Buffalo gear was very hard to find in the US for the last few years,
> due to the legal action against them. I see that was changed in
> December, and you can buy Buffalo wifi gear again.

Anything new on the lawsuit?

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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

2009-04-28 Thread John Valenti 
Buffalo gear was very hard to find in the US for the last few years,  
due to the legal action against them. I see that was changed in  
December, and you can buy Buffalo wifi gear again.

Has anyone used the WHR-G300N?  That one is draft N, plus you can load  
dd-wrt on it (I think that is unusual for N routers)  About $50 at  
Newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833162026

On Apr 28, 2009, at 10:57 AM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

> Personally I prefer the Buffalo WHR-HP-G54. It's more powerful, more  
> sensitive and more stable. I've used a number of them. I normally  
> use the Tomato firmware if I'm using them as APs or WDS APs. In that  
> role they seem to have better performance (throughput) with the  
> Tomato firmware versus the dd-WRT. The Tomato firmware does very  
> good QoS. Today I just had the need to have one be a client to a  
> Nanostation and I found that the Tomato software wouldn't connect as  
> client (to any AP). I had to put on dd-WRT and use the client bridge  
> mode. I'm using the WHR-HP-G54 in this case because I need the  
> switch ports for a number of devices. But if I was just expanding  
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[WISPA] City Tower Shelter Agreement

2009-04-28 Thread Steve Smith 
Does anyone happen to have an agreement they are willing to share 
between an ISP and a city or county for access to a tower shelter.  All 
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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

2009-04-28 Thread os10rules 
It doesn't appear the DIR-655 supports tftp firmware flashing. Too  
bad, that might have been a way to revert to the older firmware.  
Another reason to say with the more open source Linux based boxes.


Greg

On Apr 28, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Dylan Oliver wrote:

I helped a friend with a D-Link DIR-655 yesterday and was shocked/ 
disgusted
to find that although it HAD supported bridge mode in firmware 1.05,  
this
feature was removed in 1.10+ and of course it wouldn't accept the  
older
firmware as an upgrade. Must be some way but a $90 router is only  
worth so

much tinkering.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

Dlink has been pretty stable for me.  I like the GUI most of all as  
it is

emulated online, helps me walk through the person on the phone.

They all do take turns sucking the most, I agree, Rick.

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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

2009-04-28 Thread Dylan Oliver 
I helped a friend with a D-Link DIR-655 yesterday and was shocked/disgusted
to find that although it HAD supported bridge mode in firmware 1.05, this
feature was removed in 1.10+ and of course it wouldn't accept the older
firmware as an upgrade. Must be some way but a $90 router is only worth so
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> Dlink has been pretty stable for me.  I like the GUI most of all as it is
> emulated online, helps me walk through the person on the phone.
>
> They all do take turns sucking the most, I agree, Rick.
>
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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

2009-04-28 Thread os10rules 
I used those WRE54's before they were G and they were horrible (poor  
range, frequent crashes). Maybe they're better now.


Greg

On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Matt wrote:


Here is the Linksys solution:
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRE54G

Looks like its $100 MSRP... I bet you could purchase them in larger  
orders
for cheaper to resell though.  But it plugs straight into the  
outlet...

small form factor.  Not 802.11a though.


Will DD-WRT do this?

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Universal_Wireless_Repeater

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Repeater_Bridge

I have not yet figured out if you can do WPA in and out which I see as
a necessity.

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Re: [WISPA] NTIA mapping

2009-04-28 Thread Vickie Edwards 
Possibly, but I think it's more likely that the mapping money will go to
the states or big academic groups that are doing comprehensive maps over
wide geographic areas.

Again, it's a wait-and-see sort of thing, since the BTOP guidelines
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There is a $350 million mapping component set aside under BTOP.  Will
this funding be available in smaller chunks to successful grantees to
map their expanded networks?  Will it be available to all wisps to map
their existing networks in an effort to add to the overall national BB
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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

2009-04-28 Thread Matt 
> Here is the Linksys solution:
> http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRE54G
>
> Looks like its $100 MSRP... I bet you could purchase them in larger orders
> for cheaper to resell though.  But it plugs straight into the outlet...
> small form factor.  Not 802.11a though.

Will DD-WRT do this?

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Universal_Wireless_Repeater

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Repeater_Bridge

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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

2009-04-28 Thread Josh Luthman 
Dlink has been pretty stable for me.  I like the GUI most of all as it is
emulated online, helps me walk through the person on the phone.

They all do take turns sucking the most, I agree, Rick.

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On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM,  wrote:

> Personally I prefer the Buffalo WHR-HP-G54. It's more powerful, more
> sensitive and more stable. I've used a number of them. I normally use the
> Tomato firmware if I'm using them as APs or WDS APs. In that role they seem
> to have better performance (throughput) with the Tomato firmware versus the
> dd-WRT. The Tomato firmware does very good QoS. Today I just had the need to
> have one be a client to a Nanostation and I found that the Tomato software
> wouldn't connect as client (to any AP). I had to put on dd-WRT and use the
> client bridge mode. I'm using the WHR-HP-G54 in this case because I need the
> switch ports for a number of devices. But if I was just expanding the
> network I think I'd use Nanostations or Picostations in WDS.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 10:48 AM, RickG wrote:
>
>  I get a kick out of this. It seems that the cheap router manufactures
>> take turns being the worst. Note I say the worst because none are the
>> best - even in their class. So far, the best solution seems to be
>> using dd-wrt on a linksys.
>> -RickG
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Blair Davis  wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting...
>>>
>>> We standardized on Netgear after too many problems with Linksys and
>>> D-Link...
>>>
>>> Kevin Neal wrote:
>>>
>>> I have found Ingram Micro to be more expensive than Newegg every time,
>>> with
>>> the exception of that 5% off we got.  This is only on Linksys gear, we
>>> have
>>> had too many problems with D-Link, Netgear, Belkin etc  We
>>> standardized
>>> on only selling the WRT54GL anymore.  Charge the customer $90 installed,
>>> we'll replace it and handle the RMA during the first year.  Once we
>>> explain
>>> that we've found these to be the best bang for the buck most customers
>>> will
>>> purchase them.
>>>
>>> -Kevin.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
>>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:36 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"
>>>
>>> I wouldn't count on a discount from a reseller like Newegg... go to one
>>> of
>>> the distributors like Ingram Micro...  there are four options:
>>> http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/wheretobuy
>>>
>>> When I had my own company as a side job thing I had an account with a
>>> disty
>>> (I can't recall who) so I could get better pricing on D-link gear... made
>>> it
>>> so I could sell it much cheaper to my end users (granted Best Buy et. Al.
>>> also got those mail in rebates which I didn't... so they could work out
>>> in
>>> the long run being cheaper on a one/two scale)
>>>
>>> Daniel White
>>> 3-dB Networks
>>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Kevin Neal
>>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:31 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"
>>>
>>> The WRE54G is out of stock at Newegg, also, don't count on saving much
>>> on larger orders.  We order WRT54GL's, the biggest discount we got was
>>> 5% when we ordered 150 of them, and they won't do that anymore.
>>>
>>> -Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
>>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:09 AM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"
>>>
>>> Here is the Linksys solution:
>>> http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRE54G
>>>
>>> Looks like its $100 MSRP... I bet you could purchase them in larger
>>> orders for cheaper to resell though.  But it plugs straight into the
>>> outlet...
>>> small form factor.  Not 802.11a though.
>>>
>>> Daniel White
>>> 3-dB Networks
>>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI
>>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:02 AM
>>> To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"
>>>
>>> RouterOS.  We can ship it configured to connect to your AP and
>>> rebroadcast :)  This is the simplest way.  We can do this with MESH
>>> setups, routed or bridged :)
>>>
>>> * ---
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>>> Member
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[WISPA] NTIA mapping

2009-04-28 Thread chris cooper 
There is a $350 million mapping component set aside under BTOP.  Will
this funding be available in smaller chunks to successful grantees to
map their expanded networks?  Will it be available to all wisps to map
their existing networks in an effort to add to the overall national BB
map?

 

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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

2009-04-28 Thread os10rules 
Personally I prefer the Buffalo WHR-HP-G54. It's more powerful, more  
sensitive and more stable. I've used a number of them. I normally use  
the Tomato firmware if I'm using them as APs or WDS APs. In that role  
they seem to have better performance (throughput) with the Tomato  
firmware versus the dd-WRT. The Tomato firmware does very good QoS.  
Today I just had the need to have one be a client to a Nanostation and  
I found that the Tomato software wouldn't connect as client (to any  
AP). I had to put on dd-WRT and use the client bridge mode. I'm using  
the WHR-HP-G54 in this case because I need the switch ports for a  
number of devices. But if I was just expanding the network I think I'd  
use Nanostations or Picostations in WDS.


Greg

On Apr 28, 2009, at 10:48 AM, RickG wrote:


I get a kick out of this. It seems that the cheap router manufactures
take turns being the worst. Note I say the worst because none are the
best - even in their class. So far, the best solution seems to be
using dd-wrt on a linksys.
-RickG

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Blair Davis   
wrote:

Interesting...

We standardized on Netgear after too many problems with Linksys and
D-Link...

Kevin Neal wrote:

I have found Ingram Micro to be more expensive than Newegg every  
time, with
the exception of that 5% off we got.  This is only on Linksys gear,  
we have
had too many problems with D-Link, Netgear, Belkin etc  We  
standardized
on only selling the WRT54GL anymore.  Charge the customer $90  
installed,
we'll replace it and handle the RMA during the first year.  Once we  
explain
that we've found these to be the best bang for the buck most  
customers will

purchase them.

-Kevin.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
boun...@wispa.org] On

Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:36 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

I wouldn't count on a discount from a reseller like Newegg... go to  
one of

the distributors like Ingram Micro...  there are four options:
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/wheretobuy

When I had my own company as a side job thing I had an account with  
a disty
(I can't recall who) so I could get better pricing on D-link  
gear... made it
so I could sell it much cheaper to my end users (granted Best Buy  
et. Al.
also got those mail in rebates which I didn't... so they could work  
out in

the long run being cheaper on a one/two scale)

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com




-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
boun...@wispa.org] On

Behalf Of Kevin Neal
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:31 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

The WRE54G is out of stock at Newegg, also, don't count on saving  
much
on larger orders.  We order WRT54GL's, the biggest discount we got  
was

5% when we ordered 150 of them, and they won't do that anymore.

-Kevin


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
boun...@wispa.org] On

Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:09 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

Here is the Linksys solution:
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRE54G

Looks like its $100 MSRP... I bet you could purchase them in larger
orders for cheaper to resell though.  But it plugs straight into the
outlet...
small form factor.  Not 802.11a though.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com




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On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:02 AM
To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

RouterOS.  We can ship it configured to connect to your AP and
rebroadcast :)  This is the simplest way.  We can do this with MESH
setups, routed or bridged :)

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Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"

2009-04-28 Thread RickG 
I get a kick out of this. It seems that the cheap router manufactures
take turns being the worst. Note I say the worst because none are the
best - even in their class. So far, the best solution seems to be
using dd-wrt on a linksys.
-RickG

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Blair Davis  wrote:
> Interesting...
>
> We standardized on Netgear after too many problems with Linksys and
> D-Link...
>
> Kevin Neal wrote:
>
> I have found Ingram Micro to be more expensive than Newegg every time, with
> the exception of that 5% off we got.  This is only on Linksys gear, we have
> had too many problems with D-Link, Netgear, Belkin etc  We standardized
> on only selling the WRT54GL anymore.  Charge the customer $90 installed,
> we'll replace it and handle the RMA during the first year.  Once we explain
> that we've found these to be the best bang for the buck most customers will
> purchase them.
>
> -Kevin.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:36 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"
>
> I wouldn't count on a discount from a reseller like Newegg... go to one of
> the distributors like Ingram Micro...  there are four options:
> http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/wheretobuy
>
> When I had my own company as a side job thing I had an account with a disty
> (I can't recall who) so I could get better pricing on D-link gear... made it
> so I could sell it much cheaper to my end users (granted Best Buy et. Al.
> also got those mail in rebates which I didn't... so they could work out in
> the long run being cheaper on a one/two scale)
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Kevin Neal
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:31 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"
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> The WRE54G is out of stock at Newegg, also, don't count on saving much
> on larger orders.  We order WRT54GL's, the biggest discount we got was
> 5% when we ordered 150 of them, and they won't do that anymore.
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> -Kevin
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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:09 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"
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> Here is the Linksys solution:
> http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRE54G
>
> Looks like its $100 MSRP... I bet you could purchase them in larger
> orders for cheaper to resell though.  But it plugs straight into the
> outlet...
> small form factor.  Not 802.11a though.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
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> On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:02 AM
> To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g "booster"
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> RouterOS.  We can ship it configured to connect to your AP and
> rebroadcast :)  This is the simplest way.  We can do this with MESH
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Re: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Link

2009-04-28 Thread Vickie Edwards 
www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants

The rules won't be out for at least two more weeks, I expect them by the
end of next month. The only new federal funding guidance out is for
Community Connect.

 
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 6:57 PM
To: Motorola Canopy User Group; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Link

any good link for detailed info on the Stimulus plan?
 

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