Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

2010-06-12 Thread Chuck Profito
probably a ruckus on the other end

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several 
backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it.

After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure 
I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing

with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. 
Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi 
card it came with.   I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply 
associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after

I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google 
on the browser to confirm connectivity.   Google popped up, meaning things 
were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test.   I got about 30KB/s

speed, which is like painfully slow.   I was standing outside, with the 
netbook sitting on the hood of my truck.

So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access 
point ...  11 MILES AWAY!   I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp 
had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant.

It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook.

I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop 
(dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but 
this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp

assignment, and transfer data.




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Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

2010-06-12 Thread Travis Johnson
with a 1W amp.

Chuck Profito wrote:
 probably a ruckus on the other end

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of MDK
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

 This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several 
 backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it.

 After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure 
 I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing

 with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook. 
 Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi 
 card it came with.   I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply 
 associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after

 I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google 
 on the browser to confirm connectivity.   Google popped up, meaning things 
 were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test.   I got about 30KB/s

 speed, which is like painfully slow.   I was standing outside, with the 
 netbook sitting on the hood of my truck.

 So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access 
 point ...  11 MILES AWAY!   I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp 
 had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant.

 It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook.

 I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop 
 (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but 
 this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp

 assignment, and transfer data.




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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Gear

2010-06-12 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
On 6/11/2010 11:06 AM, Michael Baird wrote:
 I've got some Tranzeo gear for sale, not sure of the exact quantities,
 just let me know what you need. We've tested/cleared and upgraded all of
 these units, the 2.4 units all support 5/10/20 mhz channel widths.

 TR-CPQ-15's - $40
 TR-CPQ-19's - $60
 TR-5A's - $100
 TR-6000's - $100

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Hello Michael,

I am interested in the CPQ15 and CPQ19 units.   How many of each to do 
you have?

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Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..........

2010-06-12 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Anyone who has Tranzeo CPQ15, CPQ19, SL2-15, SL2N, SL5 or TR5a radios 
for sale, please contact me.   We are switching to 10mhz channels and I 
have about 500 or so of the older CPE200 and CPE80 radios to switch out.

I've been buying a lot of NS2/NS5 and Bullet2/Bullet5, but it is a lot 
easier to switch to a Tranzeo when the customer already has a Tranzeo, 
and there are quite a few situations where a Tranzeo works better than a 
Ubiquiti radio.

Matt Larsen
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On 6/11/2010 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 An NS2 is $80 list.

 I think most will agree it is superior, too.

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 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net  
 wrote:

 $100

 I doubt it.  New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that gain
 (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even less.
 Why buy old/used Wifi?
 Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used.

 Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky to
 get $50, on the high side.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..


  
 Tranzeo CPQ 19f



 We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell.  Hoping
 they are worth around $100.  Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com.





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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Gear

2010-06-12 Thread Michael Baird
Matt,

I'll get you totals on Monday.

Regards
Michael Baird
 On 6/11/2010 11:06 AM, Michael Baird wrote:

 I've got some Tranzeo gear for sale, not sure of the exact quantities,
 just let me know what you need. We've tested/cleared and upgraded all of
 these units, the 2.4 units all support 5/10/20 mhz channel widths.

 TR-CPQ-15's - $40
 TR-CPQ-19's - $60
 TR-5A's - $100
 TR-6000's - $100

 Regards
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 Hello Michael,

 I am interested in the CPQ15 and CPQ19 units.   How many of each to do
 you have?

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Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

2010-06-12 Thread Bret Clark
I'm not sure I buy it...I can see you picking up the signal, but there 
is no way in hell that a netbook can transmit that far.

On 06/12/2010 11:34 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
 with a 1W amp.

 Chuck Profito wrote:

 probably a ruckus on the other end

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of MDK
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

 This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several
 backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it.

 After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure
 I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing

 with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook.
 Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi
 card it came with.   I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply
 associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after

 I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google
 on the browser to confirm connectivity.   Google popped up, meaning things
 were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test.   I got about 30KB/s

 speed, which is like painfully slow.   I was standing outside, with the
 netbook sitting on the hood of my truck.

 So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access
 point ...  11 MILES AWAY!   I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp
 had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant.

 It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook.

 I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop
 (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but
 this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp

 assignment, and transfer data.




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Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

2010-06-12 Thread Forbes Mercy
As a long ago CB'er I have to ask, can there be skip on the 2.4 range? 
:)  Purrrdy soon we'll be yellin 'breaker' to some leeeneir driven AP 
just south of the border, streamin Wolfman Spam... but i digress.

On 6/11/2010 10:16 PM, MDK wrote:
 This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several
 backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it.

 After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make sure
 I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything (messing
 with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a netbook.
 Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi
 card it came with.   I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply
 associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and after
 I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google
 on the browser to confirm connectivity.   Google popped up, meaning things
 were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test.   I got about 30KB/s
 speed, which is like painfully slow.   I was standing outside, with the
 netbook sitting on the hood of my truck.

 So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access
 point ...  11 MILES AWAY!   I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp
 had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant.

 It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the netbook.

 I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop
 (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but
 this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, dhcp
 assignment, and transfer data.




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Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

2010-06-12 Thread Mike
Skip in microwave bands is usually tropospheric ducting.  Yes, signals can
propagate WAY farther than you could imagine when such an event is
happening.  Here in Central Iowa the events have far exceeded the seasonal
norm already this year.

Friendly Regards,
 
Mike
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 11:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

As a long ago CB'er I have to ask, can there be skip on the 2.4 range? 
:)  Purrrdy soon we'll be yellin 'breaker' to some leeeneir driven AP 
just south of the border, streamin Wolfman Spam... but i digress.

On 6/11/2010 10:16 PM, MDK wrote:
 This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several
 backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it.

 After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make
sure
 I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything
(messing
 with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a
netbook.
 Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi
 card it came with.   I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply
 associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and
after
 I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google
 on the browser to confirm connectivity.   Google popped up, meaning things
 were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test.   I got about
30KB/s
 speed, which is like painfully slow.   I was standing outside, with the
 netbook sitting on the hood of my truck.

 So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access
 point ...  11 MILES AWAY!   I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp
 had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant.

 It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the
netbook.

 I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop
 (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but
 this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection,
dhcp
 assignment, and transfer data.




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Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

2010-06-12 Thread Chuck Profito
Forbes,but i digress.  I know I started the wise a..   remarks, but
yes you do!   ;-)


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 9:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

As a long ago CB'er I have to ask, can there be skip on the 2.4 range? 
:)  Purrrdy soon we'll be yellin 'breaker' to some leeeneir driven AP 
just south of the border, streamin Wolfman Spam... but i digress.

On 6/11/2010 10:16 PM, MDK wrote:
 This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several
 backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it.

 After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make
sure
 I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything
(messing
 with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a
netbook.
 Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi
 card it came with.   I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply
 associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and
after
 I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google
 on the browser to confirm connectivity.   Google popped up, meaning things
 were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test.   I got about
30KB/s
 speed, which is like painfully slow.   I was standing outside, with the
 netbook sitting on the hood of my truck.

 So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access
 point ...  11 MILES AWAY!   I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp
 had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant.

 It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the
netbook.

 I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop
 (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but
 this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection,
dhcp
 assignment, and transfer data.




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[WISPA] Ubiquiti - Success Feels Good

2010-06-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
I jsut wanted to mention, that it really does give peice of mind knowing 
that there is a MIMO technology out there that I can count on, that is 
inexpensive.
I just finished my 4th Ubiquiti PTP link (over last two weeks).  Once again, 
Painless and perfect.
I got 38mb one way 22mb the other with 10Mhz Channel MCS 15.  And with 20Mhz 
channel up to 69mbps one way, and 80 the other.
Link Quality nad Capacity showed like 96%.  LAtency was also down under 2ms.
But my point here is not the speed. It was that it was easy. I just put it 
up, and it worked. Air view was helpful, finding channel. All 4 installs 
worked that way. No hassle, no fuss.
This last one was a 15 mile link, Rocket5M on each side, with PACWireless 
2ft dish on one end and a 23 db panel on the other.
Nothing has ever been this easy.

With that said There were some confusing things. I ran V on Chain0, and 
H on Chain1 got -66, then for grins swapped conectors on CPE side only, so 
Chain0 was H and Chain1 was V and got -65.
I do not understand why this happened. I would have thought signal should 
have dropped by -20 db or so? Wierd. This did not just happen when in 
Alignment mode. I may have been in MCS7 mode at the time though.
So it appears it must be transmitting on both pols in MCS7 mode, I dont have 
any other way to explain it. But none the less, it just worked.

I'm concern about using it at PtMP, because we use Station WDS, and AP only 
supports up to 6 WDS clients. So it wont scale for PTMP Briding clients. 
Unless that can be curred. But I tell you for PTP, or a couple associations, 
its pretty sweet.

(I still like T-Link-45s better when I only need 25-30mbps, but  the UBNT 
has shown to be a wonderful experience, also.)


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti - Success Feels Good

2010-06-12 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi,

I would still like to know what it's going to do when an entire 
polarization gets jammed with noise? Will the radio still pass traffic? 
Or will there be so many errors that it will overtake the link and 
nothing will work?

Travis
Microserv

Tom DeReggi wrote:
 I jsut wanted to mention, that it really does give peice of mind knowing 
 that there is a MIMO technology out there that I can count on, that is 
 inexpensive.
 I just finished my 4th Ubiquiti PTP link (over last two weeks).  Once again, 
 Painless and perfect.
 I got 38mb one way 22mb the other with 10Mhz Channel MCS 15.  And with 20Mhz 
 channel up to 69mbps one way, and 80 the other.
 Link Quality nad Capacity showed like 96%.  LAtency was also down under 2ms.
 But my point here is not the speed. It was that it was easy. I just put it 
 up, and it worked. Air view was helpful, finding channel. All 4 installs 
 worked that way. No hassle, no fuss.
 This last one was a 15 mile link, Rocket5M on each side, with PACWireless 
 2ft dish on one end and a 23 db panel on the other.
 Nothing has ever been this easy.

 With that said There were some confusing things. I ran V on Chain0, and 
 H on Chain1 got -66, then for grins swapped conectors on CPE side only, so 
 Chain0 was H and Chain1 was V and got -65.
 I do not understand why this happened. I would have thought signal should 
 have dropped by -20 db or so? Wierd. This did not just happen when in 
 Alignment mode. I may have been in MCS7 mode at the time though.
 So it appears it must be transmitting on both pols in MCS7 mode, I dont have 
 any other way to explain it. But none the less, it just worked.

 I'm concern about using it at PtMP, because we use Station WDS, and AP only 
 supports up to 6 WDS clients. So it wont scale for PTMP Briding clients. 
 Unless that can be curred. But I tell you for PTP, or a couple associations, 
 its pretty sweet.

 (I still like T-Link-45s better when I only need 25-30mbps, but  the UBNT 
 has shown to be a wonderful experience, also.)


 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband



 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti - Success Feels Good

2010-06-12 Thread Cameron Kilton
We'eve installed several locations in a PTMP we use Access Point WDS for 
the AP and Station WDS for subscriber, works great for bridging.

We've deployed in both noisy environments and clean, they both seem to 
perform very well.

So well in fact we have choosen Airmax over Alvarion VL in the 5.8 band 
because Airmax has worked much better for us in a noisy environment.


Thanks,
Cameron

On 6/12/2010 1:08 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I would still like to know what it's going to do when an entire
 polarization gets jammed with noise? Will the radio still pass traffic?
 Or will there be so many errors that it will overtake the link and
 nothing will work?

 Travis
 Microserv

 Tom DeReggi wrote:
 I jsut wanted to mention, that it really does give peice of mind knowing
 that there is a MIMO technology out there that I can count on, that is
 inexpensive.
 I just finished my 4th Ubiquiti PTP link (over last two weeks).  Once again,
 Painless and perfect.
 I got 38mb one way 22mb the other with 10Mhz Channel MCS 15.  And with 20Mhz
 channel up to 69mbps one way, and 80 the other.
 Link Quality nad Capacity showed like 96%.  LAtency was also down under 2ms.
 But my point here is not the speed. It was that it was easy. I just put it
 up, and it worked. Air view was helpful, finding channel. All 4 installs
 worked that way. No hassle, no fuss.
 This last one was a 15 mile link, Rocket5M on each side, with PACWireless
 2ft dish on one end and a 23 db panel on the other.
 Nothing has ever been this easy.

 With that said There were some confusing things. I ran V on Chain0, and
 H on Chain1 got -66, then for grins swapped conectors on CPE side only, so
 Chain0 was H and Chain1 was V and got -65.
 I do not understand why this happened. I would have thought signal should
 have dropped by -20 db or so? Wierd. This did not just happen when in
 Alignment mode. I may have been in MCS7 mode at the time though.
 So it appears it must be transmitting on both pols in MCS7 mode, I dont have
 any other way to explain it. But none the less, it just worked.

 I'm concern about using it at PtMP, because we use Station WDS, and AP only
 supports up to 6 WDS clients. So it wont scale for PTMP Briding clients.
 Unless that can be curred. But I tell you for PTP, or a couple associations,
 its pretty sweet.

 (I still like T-Link-45s better when I only need 25-30mbps, but  the UBNT
 has shown to be a wonderful experience, also.)


 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti - Success Feels Good

2010-06-12 Thread Robert West
I take the numbers reported by AirOS as a suggestion.  They seem to change
with every firmware and at times make no sense.

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 12:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti - Success Feels Good

I jsut wanted to mention, that it really does give peice of mind knowing 
that there is a MIMO technology out there that I can count on, that is 
inexpensive.
I just finished my 4th Ubiquiti PTP link (over last two weeks).  Once again,

Painless and perfect.
I got 38mb one way 22mb the other with 10Mhz Channel MCS 15.  And with 20Mhz

channel up to 69mbps one way, and 80 the other.
Link Quality nad Capacity showed like 96%.  LAtency was also down under 2ms.
But my point here is not the speed. It was that it was easy. I just put it 
up, and it worked. Air view was helpful, finding channel. All 4 installs 
worked that way. No hassle, no fuss.
This last one was a 15 mile link, Rocket5M on each side, with PACWireless 
2ft dish on one end and a 23 db panel on the other.
Nothing has ever been this easy.

With that said There were some confusing things. I ran V on Chain0, and 
H on Chain1 got -66, then for grins swapped conectors on CPE side only, so 
Chain0 was H and Chain1 was V and got -65.
I do not understand why this happened. I would have thought signal should 
have dropped by -20 db or so? Wierd. This did not just happen when in 
Alignment mode. I may have been in MCS7 mode at the time though.
So it appears it must be transmitting on both pols in MCS7 mode, I dont have

any other way to explain it. But none the less, it just worked.

I'm concern about using it at PtMP, because we use Station WDS, and AP only 
supports up to 6 WDS clients. So it wont scale for PTMP Briding clients. 
Unless that can be curred. But I tell you for PTP, or a couple associations,

its pretty sweet.

(I still like T-Link-45s better when I only need 25-30mbps, but  the UBNT 
has shown to be a wonderful experience, also.)


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband





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Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

2010-06-12 Thread MDK
NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, 
and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards, 
either.   ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 
and solid dishes.  )

netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point 
is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, 
connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector.

For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving 
strange,  and it got replaced.


++
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++

--
From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

 probably a ruckus on the other end

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of MDK
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

 This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several
 backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it.

 After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make 
 sure
 I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything 
 (messing

 with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a 
 netbook.
 Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi
 card it came with.   I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply
 associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and 
 after

 I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google
 on the browser to confirm connectivity.   Google popped up, meaning things
 were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test.   I got about 
 30KB/s

 speed, which is like painfully slow.   I was standing outside, with the
 netbook sitting on the hood of my truck.

 So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access
 point ...  11 MILES AWAY!   I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp
 had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant.

 It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the 
 netbook.

 I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop
 (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but
 this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, 
 dhcp

 assignment, and transfer data.




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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti - Success Feels Good

2010-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Could test by setting up a pair of single pole dishes, align one, 
misalign the other.

-
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http://www.ics-il.com



On 6/12/2010 12:08 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 I would still like to know what it's going to do when an entire
 polarization gets jammed with noise? Will the radio still pass traffic?
 Or will there be so many errors that it will overtake the link and
 nothing will work?

 Travis
 Microserv

 Tom DeReggi wrote:

 I jsut wanted to mention, that it really does give peice of mind knowing
 that there is a MIMO technology out there that I can count on, that is
 inexpensive.
 I just finished my 4th Ubiquiti PTP link (over last two weeks).  Once again,
 Painless and perfect.
 I got 38mb one way 22mb the other with 10Mhz Channel MCS 15.  And with 20Mhz
 channel up to 69mbps one way, and 80 the other.
 Link Quality nad Capacity showed like 96%.  LAtency was also down under 2ms.
 But my point here is not the speed. It was that it was easy. I just put it
 up, and it worked. Air view was helpful, finding channel. All 4 installs
 worked that way. No hassle, no fuss.
 This last one was a 15 mile link, Rocket5M on each side, with PACWireless
 2ft dish on one end and a 23 db panel on the other.
 Nothing has ever been this easy.

 With that said There were some confusing things. I ran V on Chain0, and
 H on Chain1 got -66, then for grins swapped conectors on CPE side only, so
 Chain0 was H and Chain1 was V and got -65.
 I do not understand why this happened. I would have thought signal should
 have dropped by -20 db or so? Wierd. This did not just happen when in
 Alignment mode. I may have been in MCS7 mode at the time though.
 So it appears it must be transmitting on both pols in MCS7 mode, I dont have
 any other way to explain it. But none the less, it just worked.

 I'm concern about using it at PtMP, because we use Station WDS, and AP only
 supports up to 6 WDS clients. So it wont scale for PTMP Briding clients.
 Unless that can be curred. But I tell you for PTP, or a couple associations,
 its pretty sweet.

 (I still like T-Link-45s better when I only need 25-30mbps, but  the UBNT
 has shown to be a wonderful experience, also.)


 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband



 
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Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

2010-06-12 Thread Chuck Profito
I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled.

BTW  how about a photo and spec on that  our own design and manufacture
slotted waveguide sector


Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-Access, Inc.
www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com  
Providing Broadband Internet Access to 
California's Rural Central Valley



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, 
and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards,

either.   ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 
and solid dishes.  )

netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point 
is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, 
connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector.

For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving 
strange,  and it got replaced.


++
Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
541-969-8200  509-386-4589
++

--
From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

 probably a ruckus on the other end

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of MDK
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

 This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several
 backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it.

 After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make 
 sure
 I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything 
 (messing

 with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a 
 netbook.
 Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi
 card it came with.   I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply
 associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and 
 after

 I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google
 on the browser to confirm connectivity.   Google popped up, meaning things
 were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test.   I got about 
 30KB/s

 speed, which is like painfully slow.   I was standing outside, with the
 netbook sitting on the hood of my truck.

 So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access
 point ...  11 MILES AWAY!   I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp
 had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant.

 It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the 
 netbook.

 I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop
 (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but
 this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, 
 dhcp

 assignment, and transfer data.




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Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

2010-06-12 Thread Travis Johnson
I think you meant our (non-FCC approved) own design and manufacture 
slotted waveguide sector.

Travis


Chuck Profito wrote:
 I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled.

 BTW  how about a photo and spec on that  our own design and manufacture
 slotted waveguide sector


 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-Access, Inc.
 www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com  
 Providing Broadband Internet Access to 
 California's Rural Central Valley



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of MDK
 Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

 NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, 
 and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards,

 either.   ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 
 and solid dishes.  )

 netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point 
 is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, 
 connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector.

 For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving 
 strange,  and it got replaced.


 ++
 Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
 541-969-8200  509-386-4589
 ++

 --
 From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

   
 probably a ruckus on the other end

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of MDK
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

 This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several
 backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it.

 After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make 
 sure
 I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything 
 (messing

 with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a 
 netbook.
 Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi
 card it came with.   I fired it up (it is set to any so it simply
 associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and 
 after

 I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google
 on the browser to confirm connectivity.   Google popped up, meaning things
 were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test.   I got about 
 30KB/s

 speed, which is like painfully slow.   I was standing outside, with the
 netbook sitting on the hood of my truck.

 So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access
 point ...  11 MILES AWAY!   I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp
 had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant.

 It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the 
 netbook.

 I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop
 (dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but
 this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, 
 dhcp

 assignment, and transfer data.




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Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

2010-06-12 Thread Blair Davis




Let's NOT go there again...

Travis Johnson wrote:

  I think you meant "our (non-FCC approved) own design and manufacture 
slotted waveguide sector".

Travis


Chuck Profito wrote:
  
  
I stand corrected, dumbfounded and humbled.

BTW  how about a photo and spec on that " our own design and manufacture
slotted waveguide sector"


Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-Access, Inc.
www.cv-access.com / cprofito'at'cv-access.com  
Providing Broadband Internet Access to 
California's Rural Central Valley



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

NOT.All my access points are star-os based, and I use NO amps anywhere, 
and with the exception of one long point to point link, no high power cards,

either.   ( that link is now out of production, replaced by ubnt rocketm5 
and solid dishes.  )

netbook end, is whatever atheros based card it comes with, the access point 
is a WLM54SAG, not the high power version, and set at default output, 
connected to our own design and manufacture slotted waveguide sector.

For many years, it was a CM9 at the AP, but last year it started behaving 
strange,  and it got replaced.


++
Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
541-969-8200  509-386-4589
++

--
From: "Chuck Profito" cprof...@cv-access.com
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:03 PM
To: "'WISPA General List'" wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

  


  probably a ruckus on the other end

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Is this a record of some kind?

This evening I was at one of my access points... one that has several
backhauls and various 2.4 and 5 ghz ap's at it.

After I was done with my few minutes of doing things, I wanted to make 
sure
I had not physically disconnected or accidentally unhooked anything 
(messing

with the batteries, checking water levels, etc).I pulled out a 
netbook.
Acer Aspire One to be precise, running windows xp, using the normal wifi
card it came with.   I fired it up (it is set to "any" so it simply
associates to the access points that are open at home, work, etc), and 
after

I was done, noted it said it was connected, at which point I opened google
on the browser to confirm connectivity.   Google popped up, meaning things
were connected, and then I decided to run a speed test.   I got about 
30KB/s

speed, which is like painfully slow.   I was standing outside, with the
netbook sitting on the hood of my truck.

So, I decided to see what it was associated to, and it was another access
point ...  11 MILES AWAY!   I confirmed it by the SSID and by the ip dhcp
had assigned, as belonging to the ap 11 miles distant.

It has no external antenna, just the one the factory built into the 
netbook.

I have detected, using netstumbler and the internal antenna on my laptop
(dell C610 and CM9 installed) access points over 24 miles away before, but
this is the longest, by far, I have been able to get a real connection, 
dhcp

assignment, and transfer data.




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Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST - Looking to Sell..........

2010-06-12 Thread Scott Piehn
I work with Sara who started the thread

We have 40 - 80 currently and will have more that would like to move
CPQ19's  all generations, current firmware





Scott Piehn
JCWIFI.com Division Manager
Computer Dynamics
451 W. South St
Freeport, IL 61032
spi...@computerdyn.com
V 815.233.2641
F 815.233.6225
- Original Message - 
From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..


 Anyone who has Tranzeo CPQ15, CPQ19, SL2-15, SL2N, SL5 or TR5a radios
 for sale, please contact me.   We are switching to 10mhz channels and I
 have about 500 or so of the older CPE200 and CPE80 radios to switch out.

 I've been buying a lot of NS2/NS5 and Bullet2/Bullet5, but it is a lot
 easier to switch to a Tranzeo when the customer already has a Tranzeo,
 and there are quite a few situations where a Tranzeo works better than a
 Ubiquiti radio.

 Matt Larsen
 mlar...@vistabeam.com


 On 6/11/2010 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 An NS2 is $80 list.

 I think most will agree it is superior, too.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net 
 wrote:

 $100

 I doubt it.  New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that 
 gain
 (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even 
 less.
 Why buy old/used Wifi?
 Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used.

 Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky 
 to
 get $50, on the high side.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..



 Tranzeo CPQ 19f



 We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. 
 Hoping
 they are worth around $100.  Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com.





 Sara Gray



 
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Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST - Looking to Sell..........

2010-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Wasn't offlist

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote:
 I work with Sara who started the thread

 We have 40 - 80 currently and will have more that would like to move
 CPQ19's  all generations, current firmware




 
 Scott Piehn
 JCWIFI.com Division Manager
 Computer Dynamics
 451 W. South St
 Freeport, IL 61032
 spi...@computerdyn.com
 V 815.233.2641
 F 815.233.6225
 - Original Message -
 From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..


 Anyone who has Tranzeo CPQ15, CPQ19, SL2-15, SL2N, SL5 or TR5a radios
 for sale, please contact me.   We are switching to 10mhz channels and I
 have about 500 or so of the older CPE200 and CPE80 radios to switch out.

 I've been buying a lot of NS2/NS5 and Bullet2/Bullet5, but it is a lot
 easier to switch to a Tranzeo when the customer already has a Tranzeo,
 and there are quite a few situations where a Tranzeo works better than a
 Ubiquiti radio.

 Matt Larsen
 mlar...@vistabeam.com


 On 6/11/2010 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 An NS2 is $80 list.

 I think most will agree it is superior, too.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
 wrote:

 $100

 I doubt it.  New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that
 gain
 (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even
 less.
 Why buy old/used Wifi?
 Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used.

 Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky
 to
 get $50, on the high side.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..



 Tranzeo CPQ 19f



 We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell.
 Hoping
 they are worth around $100.  Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com.





 Sara Gray



 
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Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST - Looking to Sell..........

2010-06-12 Thread Robert West
Thanks for the gumball, Popeye.

Thanks for the gumball.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Piehn
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 6:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: i...@jcwifi.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST - Looking to Sell..

I work with Sara who started the thread

We have 40 - 80 currently and will have more that would like to move CPQ19's
all generations, current firmware





Scott Piehn
JCWIFI.com Division Manager
Computer Dynamics
451 W. South St
Freeport, IL 61032
spi...@computerdyn.com
V 815.233.2641
F 815.233.6225
- Original Message -
From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..


 Anyone who has Tranzeo CPQ15, CPQ19, SL2-15, SL2N, SL5 or TR5a radios
 for sale, please contact me.   We are switching to 10mhz channels and I
 have about 500 or so of the older CPE200 and CPE80 radios to switch out.

 I've been buying a lot of NS2/NS5 and Bullet2/Bullet5, but it is a lot
 easier to switch to a Tranzeo when the customer already has a Tranzeo,
 and there are quite a few situations where a Tranzeo works better than a
 Ubiquiti radio.

 Matt Larsen
 mlar...@vistabeam.com


 On 6/11/2010 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 An NS2 is $80 list.

 I think most will agree it is superior, too.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net 
 wrote:

 $100

 I doubt it.  New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that 
 gain
 (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even 
 less.
 Why buy old/used Wifi?
 Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used.

 Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky

 to
 get $50, on the high side.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..



 Tranzeo CPQ 19f



 We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. 
 Hoping
 they are worth around $100.  Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com.





 Sara Gray






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Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST - Looking to Sell..........

2010-06-12 Thread John Thomas


Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:

Thanks for the gumball, Popeye.

Thanks for the gumball.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Piehn
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 6:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: i...@jcwifi.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST - Looking to Sell..

I work with Sara who started the thread

We have 40 - 80 currently and will have more that would like to move CPQ19's
all generations, current firmware





Scott Piehn
JCWIFI.com Division Manager
Computer Dynamics
451 W. South St
Freeport, IL 61032
spi...@computerdyn.com
V 815.233.2641
F 815.233.6225
- Original Message -
From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..


 Anyone who has Tranzeo CPQ15, CPQ19, SL2-15, SL2N, SL5 or TR5a radios
 for sale, please contact me.   We are switching to 10mhz channels and I
 have about 500 or so of the older CPE200 and CPE80 radios to switch out.

 I've been buying a lot of NS2/NS5 and Bullet2/Bullet5, but it is a lot
 easier to switch to a Tranzeo when the customer already has a Tranzeo,
 and there are quite a few situations where a Tranzeo works better than a
 Ubiquiti radio.

 Matt Larsen
 mlar...@vistabeam.com


 On 6/11/2010 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 An NS2 is $80 list.

 I think most will agree it is superior, too.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue that counts.
 --- Winston Churchill



 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net 
 wrote:

 $100

 I doubt it.  New equivellent class or better 2.4 CPEs at near that 
 gain
 (alternate brands), are going for as low as $80 now adays. Maybe even 
 less.
 Why buy old/used Wifi?
 Atleast not in 2.4G, that have so many vendor options, new and used.

 Good luck with liquidating, but I'd side with Chuck, that you'd be lucky

 to
 get $50, on the high side.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Sara Grayli...@jcwifi.com
 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:54 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking to Sell..



 Tranzeo CPQ 19f



 We are switching frequencies and have between 50 and 100 to sell. 
 Hoping
 they are worth around $100.  Please reply offlist to i...@jcwifi.com.





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