Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Vyacheslav Vasilyev
I talk about max achievable throughput of 802.11n ,that may be got in ideal conditions. It is obvious that noask gives more throughput then with ask in ideal ( for example in lab via coax cable ptp connection without collisions and interference ) conditions. I agree that in noisy environment u

Re: [WISPA] Bullet5M disassembly?

2010-09-05 Thread Robert West
Anyone wanna see the inside of an AirGrid?! HA! Crazy how just 3 little copper pins make up the antenna and can go so flippin' far! Joe- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 9

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Robert West
$300 bucks per day seems damn reasonable considering what it is. I'd be down with that. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 1:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WI

Re: [WISPA] My fun (kidding) weekend on call

2010-09-05 Thread Robert West
My weekend has been profitable from local hotels not believing me that Time Warner is having an issue and they all insisting that I make a service call to tell them just that but in person. Total take from a walk in, test and walk out. Nearly $700 bucks. Weekend rate, $95 bucks per hour.

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Robert West
I use No Ack only on links longer than 5 miles. I had problems with No Ack at shorter distances. But I put AirMax on it all, not just because it's TDMA but because it will screw with those trying to hack into it. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.o

Re: [WISPA] Trango, UBNT & Alvarion equipment for sale

2010-09-05 Thread Jim Wilson
Cameron Kilton midcoast.com> writes: > > I have: > > (9) Trango Fox 5580 Units for sale $60 Each or $480 if you buy all of them. > > (2) Trango 5800 units $75 each > > > Contact me and I'll see what I have for a real good price. > Do you still have any 5580 or other trango gear? Thanks

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Greg Ihnen
Today I wondered the same thing about the noack. My experience running a very short distance (1000 yards) PtP using two NS5M's with the TX turned almost all the way down, in the jungle where there is no interference what so ever is that there's no speed gain in using Airmax. But soon the PtP wi

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Scott Carullo
I'm not sure your assessment of UBNT not recommending to use airmax on PTP as a general statement hold true. It is unlikely that they would have built in a specific PTP noack mode into airmax configuration if it was their suggestion not to use it. I use it on lots of links and it works very w

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Vyacheslav Vasilyev
2010/9/5 Jeromie Reeves > On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Vyacheslav Vasilyev > wrote: > > > What is a Rockets PPS with airmax on? > Ubnt does not recomend to use Airmax On in ptp due to lower performance. We did not test it. Ubnt , MT and any other atheros 802.11n based products have apr

[WISPA] My fun (kidding) weekend on call

2010-09-05 Thread Forbes Mercy
Thanks for the comments Butch, this has been a busy on-call weekend with the bandwidth manager dropping twice (It actually shut the power off on the server) and several Mikrotik towers refusing to come back up until rebooted.  To try to battle this I went to the WIKI for Mikrotik and entered th

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 14:15 -0700, Forbes Mercy wrote: > I keep adding filters as traffic presents itself but help and > training is very expensive and extraordinarily technical While I would disagree that training is "very expensive", I would have to agree that it is very technical in nature.

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Jeromie Reeves
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Vyacheslav Vasilyev wrote: > > 2010/9/5 Jeromie Reeves >> >> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Vyacheslav Vasilyev >> wrote: >> Airmax was on or off? What were the single direction speeds for each? > > In all   Rocket ptp link tests  Airmax   is   off. > Rocket "In

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Vyacheslav Vasilyev
> > We tested TDMA freebsd Sam Lefler MAC 802.11a implementation .at the > simular platform ( Alix, CM9) . It also has poor throughput at small > packet size ( but much better then standard 802,11a) and it is may be > improved by using more powerfull h/w. > > Sorry freebsd8 tdma Sam 802.11a

Re: [WISPA] mikrotik vs ubiquiti

2010-09-05 Thread Vyacheslav Vasilyev
2010/9/5 Jeromie Reeves > On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Vyacheslav Vasilyev > wrote: > Airmax was on or off? What were the single direction speeds for each? > In all Rocket ptp link tests Airmax is off. Rocket -max simplex ( one direction) throughput BW 20 Mhz -( udp,1470), UL/DL= 75.3