[WISPA] Rain Rain Go Away Come back after 3 days!
Today is the sixth day of rain. We live a desert and are not used to or prepared for this much water. This morning a mudslide took down one of my towers. I discovered this via a site survey at 3am. Back at the office now for shovels(lol) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rain Rain Go Away Come back after 3 days!
Hard to feel your pain when those of us have to deal with blizzards and sub-zero temps on regular basis throughout winter ...but then again maybe it's easy to feel your pain :)...hang in there! On 12/22/2010 06:56 AM, Tom Fadgen wrote: Today is the sixth day of rain. We live a desert and are not used to or prepared for this much water. This morning a mudslide took down one of my towers. I discovered this via a site survey at 3am. Back at the office now for shovels(lol) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless
The real question is does the FCC have the jurisdiction to do any of this. I think when one of the big guys challenges it in court we will see that they don't. I am sure that will change at some point in the future. Sent from my iPhone4 On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:44 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: The first step to breaking the net was form 477. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:57 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: The whole problem was creating monopolies in the first place, and then pretending you can fix what you broke by half-baked notions of government created markets... There is NOTHING broke about 'internet' because it hasn't been regulated. Your issue is nothing but a complaint about the results of what should never have been done in the first place. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 6:56 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless Well, no, what IS PROFOUNDLY BROKEN is that the ILECs are no longer required to be common carriers. They built their network using common carrier privileges. They got their market share using common carrier privileges. And then they turned around and got their common carrier obligations lifted by the profoundly corrupt Cheney-Rove FCC. So now they control the content on their wires, and you can't lease them. That's just wrong. And the Genachowski FCC isn't doing squat about that, though they absolutely have the power to do so. We do need a national common carrier utility. There is a clear distinction between carriage and content. ISPs are content, not carriage. And WISPs are self-provisioned ISPs who deliver content over unlicensed facilities without using a carrier, and without being one. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless
Genachowski was confident that they do. He says Congress granted them that permission in 2008 (I believe). However, there is a large contingency of politicians, companies and special interest groups that disagree with the Chairman’s viewpoints. This ruling will be challenged in Court very quickly. Rick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless The real question is does the FCC have the jurisdiction to do any of this. I think when one of the big guys challenges it in court we will see that they don't. I am sure that will change at some point in the future. Sent from my iPhone4 On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:44 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: The first step to breaking the net was form 477. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:57 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: The whole problem was creating monopolies in the first place, and then pretending you can fix what you broke by half-baked notions of government created markets... There is NOTHING broke about 'internet' because it hasn't been regulated. Your issue is nothing but a complaint about the results of what should never have been done in the first place. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 6:56 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless Well, no, what IS PROFOUNDLY BROKEN is that the ILECs are no longer required to be common carriers. They built their network using common carrier privileges. They got their market share using common carrier privileges. And then they turned around and got their common carrier obligations lifted by the profoundly corrupt Cheney-Rove FCC. So now they control the content on their wires, and you can't lease them. That's just wrong. And the Genachowski FCC isn't doing squat about that, though they absolutely have the power to do so. We do need a national common carrier utility. There is a clear distinction between carriage and content. ISPs are content, not carriage. And WISPs are self-provisioned ISPs who deliver content over unlicensed facilities without using a carrier, and without being one. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless
I think that most will agree that they do not however since it touches so many citizens there will always be a group demanding that “They need to do something about this” for whatever reason and most if not all bureaucrats are reactionary to the squeaky wheel and will do almost anything to shut them up. In the end, as you said, a deep pocket corporation will take it on and the FCC will cave in to the position of that party. The whole thing is a double edged sword, IMO. I just wake up and go to work and do as little as possible… J From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless The real question is does the FCC have the jurisdiction to do any of this. I think when one of the big guys challenges it in court we will see that they don't. I am sure that will change at some point in the future. Sent from my iPhone4 On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:44 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: The first step to breaking the net was form 477. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:57 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: The whole problem was creating monopolies in the first place, and then pretending you can fix what you broke by half-baked notions of government created markets... There is NOTHING broke about 'internet' because it hasn't been regulated. Your issue is nothing but a complaint about the results of what should never have been done in the first place. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 6:56 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless Well, no, what IS PROFOUNDLY BROKEN is that the ILECs are no longer required to be common carriers. They built their network using common carrier privileges. They got their market share using common carrier privileges. And then they turned around and got their common carrier obligations lifted by the profoundly corrupt Cheney-Rove FCC. So now they control the content on their wires, and you can't lease them. That's just wrong. And the Genachowski FCC isn't doing squat about that, though they absolutely have the power to do so. We do need a national common carrier utility. There is a clear distinction between carriage and content. ISPs are content, not carriage. And WISPs are self-provisioned ISPs who deliver content over unlicensed facilities without using a carrier, and without being one. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless
At 12/22/2010 10:05 AM, JeremieC wrote: The real question is does the FCC have the jurisdiction to do any of this. I think when one of the big guys challenges it in court we will see that they don't. I am sure that will change at some point in the future. The FCC's authority over common carriers is clear. Their authority over ISPs is not. The DC Circuit's May ruling overturning the Comcast Order gives a pretty clear picture of the FCC's authority. Had the FCC actually wanted to make a new set of rules that could withstand judicial scrutiny, they were told how. They were also told exactly what would not be approved. Guess which path they took in yesterday's order... Sent from my iPhone4 On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:44 AM, RickG mailto:rgunder...@gmail.comrgunder...@gmail.com wrote: The first step to breaking the net was form 477. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:57 PM, MDK mailto:rea...@muddyfrogwater.usrea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: The whole problem was creating monopolies in the first place, and then pretending you can fix what you broke by half-baked notions of government created markets... There is NOTHING broke about 'internet' because it hasn't been regulated. Your issue is nothing but a complaint about the results of what should never have been done in the first place. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: Fred Goldstein mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.comfgoldst...@ionary.com Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 6:56 PM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless Well, no, what IS PROFOUNDLY BROKEN is that the ILECs are no longer required to be common carriers. They built their network using common carrier privileges. They got their market share using common carrier privileges. And then they turned around and got their common carrier obligations lifted by the profoundly corrupt Cheney-Rove FCC. So now they control the content on their wires, and you can't lease them. That's just wrong. And the Genachowski FCC isn't doing squat about that, though they absolutely have the power to do so. We do need a national common carrier utility. There is a clear distinction between carriage and content. ISPs are content, not carriage. And WISPs are self-provisioned ISPs who deliver content over unlicensed facilities without using a carrier, and without being one. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at http://ionary.comionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelesshttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelesshttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelesshttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] From ATT public policy blog- Comcast vs Level3
Exactly! WISPs need to build their percieved value in the eyes of other ISPs. It all has to start somewhere. One way is to start peering at any level, with who ever you can, regardless of whether its really again. One measurement is traffic volume, unfortunately, most WISPs aren't favors comparing their low volume the he high volume of their desired peer, regardless of the ratio. One measure is a national foot print interconnected or not. If you have atleast 3 diverse interonnected national POPs, you can argue that your network will carry the traffic the majority of the path, not the upstream/peer's network. Most small WISPs dont go hear because... Internet transit is usually pretty cheap, meaning cheaper to pay for, than to pay to keep 3 diverse NOCs operational. But even if small, I believe WISPs do deserve to get paid just as much as the next guy. But we have to sell that value well enough that a prospective buyer is willing to buy it. My opinion is that providers really need to be at the 1Gig level to justify colocation and peering. But getting paid peering is not a given, it still then takes work to justify why one should get paid. I personally, think that WISPs have a very strong justification That we serve a unique market that other ISP cant serve, which resources to serve are in shortage. Its a market that we can successfully deliver to content providers, that content providers can uniquely profit from. They should be able to justify paying us. I like to point to AOL, one of the big success stories on getting other companies to pay them for access to eyeballs. The got comanies to pay them billion, and the speed was only dialup. In a free market, we'd have the right to explore what our value is or isn't. I agree fully with Fred's insightful comment. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] From ATT public policy blog- Comcast vs Level3 I guess what I don't understand about this whole thing is how much traffic one ISP is sending another. So, if you send me too much traffic, you must pay. I think nearly every WISP on this list is receiving more traffic than we are sending AND we are paying for it. Why are they not paying us? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he license costs $3K and the radios $10K in the end - I can push a Gig for much lower than i could ever get from TW we are exploring this now in fact On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
Is this not from time Warner? Is it from someone else at 5/Meg Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he license costs $3K and the radios $10K in the end - I can push a Gig for much lower than i could ever get from TW we are exploring this now in fact On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
Correct. If you can come off a large building out of any of the cities here in Ohio that have carrier hotels - you can just backhaul your network right out of the city. Cogent for example on their website today is offering $4/meg (for gige commit I bet) if TW wants to charge $2100 for 40 Meg ($52.50/meg) you really have to start thinking about why not setup some backhauls to give yourself a better rate. Coming from Columbus for example - and getting even $10/meg or Dayton or Cincy for us @ $10/meg allows us to make up the other $42+/- per meg in backhaul costs. Lets say for giggles and grins that Time Warner requires a 4 year contract at a rate of $2100 or at a total cost of $100,800 In turn an agreement from a carrier hotel for Blended bandwidth or even let's say from Cogent at a cost lets say for 40 Meg of $10/meg = $400/mo or $19.200 for the same agreement ( 4 years) You really need to debate what the additional $81,600 could mean to your bottom line. Even setting up multiple links from a carrier hotel - EVEN if it cost you $50K for the links would still place $30K +/- in your bottom line. I could see where some of us that but up against each other could actually build our own Network to assist each other even :-) but that is a different story Many will argue that Cogent stinks - Funny but I feel just the opposite. It is a great product for a good price. AND I find they still kick the heck out of Time Warner - but thats just my opinion. On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Is this not from time Warner? Is it from someone else at 5/Meg Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he license costs $3K and the radios $10K in the end - I can push a Gig for much lower than i could ever get from TW we are exploring this now in fact On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
Saving 80k would mean I could buy that new bucket truck :) Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Correct. If you can come off a large building out of any of the cities here in Ohio that have carrier hotels - you can just backhaul your network right out of the city. Cogent for example on their website today is offering $4/meg (for gige commit I bet) if TW wants to charge $2100 for 40 Meg ($52.50/meg) you really have to start thinking about why not setup some backhauls to give yourself a better rate. Coming from Columbus for example - and getting even $10/meg or Dayton or Cincy for us @ $10/meg allows us to make up the other $42+/- per meg in backhaul costs. Lets say for giggles and grins that Time Warner requires a 4 year contract at a rate of $2100 or at a total cost of $100,800 In turn an agreement from a carrier hotel for Blended bandwidth or even let's say from Cogent at a cost lets say for 40 Meg of $10/meg = $400/mo or $19.200 for the same agreement ( 4 years) You really need to debate what the additional $81,600 could mean to your bottom line. Even setting up multiple links from a carrier hotel - EVEN if it cost you $50K for the links would still place $30K +/- in your bottom line. I could see where some of us that but up against each other could actually build our own Network to assist each other even :-) but that is a different story Many will argue that Cogent stinks - Funny but I feel just the opposite. It is a great product for a good price. AND I find they still kick the heck out of Time Warner - but thats just my opinion. On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Is this not from time Warner? Is it from someone else at 5/Meg Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he license costs $3K and the radios $10K in the end - I can push a Gig for much lower than i could ever get from TW we are exploring this now in fact On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
$4/meg from cogent is actually a bit high. I've seen deals for 3/meg on 100mb/s commit, And under 1.8/meg for GigE commit. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 12:47 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Correct. If you can come off a large building out of any of the cities here in Ohio that have carrier hotels - you can just backhaul your network right out of the city. Cogent for example on their website today is offering $4/meg (for gige commit I bet) if TW wants to charge $2100 for 40 Meg ($52.50/meg) you really have to start thinking about why not setup some backhauls to give yourself a better rate. Coming from Columbus for example - and getting even $10/meg or Dayton or Cincy for us @ $10/meg allows us to make up the other $42+/- per meg in backhaul costs. Lets say for giggles and grins that Time Warner requires a 4 year contract at a rate of $2100 or at a total cost of $100,800 In turn an agreement from a carrier hotel for Blended bandwidth or even let's say from Cogent at a cost lets say for 40 Meg of $10/meg = $400/mo or $19.200 for the same agreement ( 4 years) You really need to debate what the additional $81,600 could mean to your bottom line. Even setting up multiple links from a carrier hotel - EVEN if it cost you $50K for the links would still place $30K +/- in your bottom line. I could see where some of us that but up against each other could actually build our own Network to assist each other even :-) but that is a different story Many will argue that Cogent stinks - Funny but I feel just the opposite. It is a great product for a good price. AND I find they still kick the heck out of Time Warner - but thats just my opinion. On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Is this not from time Warner? Is it from someone else at 5/Meg Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he license costs $3K and the radios $10K in the end - I can push a Gig for much lower than i could ever get from TW we are exploring this now in fact On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn't complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
[WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters
Does anyone know where to get the rack adapters so you can mount normal 19 rackmounts in the wider racks? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters
They are expensive. I had some THICK aluminum laying around and just drilled. Works great. On Dec 22, 2010 4:17 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Does anyone know where to get the rack adapters so you can mount normal 19 rackmounts in the wider racks? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
In the Philly market yes in Ohio - not so much :-( It depends upon what they have i guess (or the sales rep) $300/mo for 100mbps is not 2 shabby :-) On Dec 22, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: $4/meg from cogent is actually a bit high. I've seen deals for 3/meg on 100mb/s commit, And under 1.8/meg for GigE commit. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 12:47 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Correct. If you can come off a large building out of any of the cities here in Ohio that have carrier hotels - you can just backhaul your network right out of the city. Cogent for example on their website today is offering $4/meg (for gige commit I bet) if TW wants to charge $2100 for 40 Meg ($52.50/meg) you really have to start thinking about why not setup some backhauls to give yourself a better rate. Coming from Columbus for example - and getting even $10/meg or Dayton or Cincy for us @ $10/meg allows us to make up the other $42+/- per meg in backhaul costs. Lets say for giggles and grins that Time Warner requires a 4 year contract at a rate of $2100 or at a total cost of $100,800 In turn an agreement from a carrier hotel for Blended bandwidth or even let's say from Cogent at a cost lets say for 40 Meg of $10/meg = $400/mo or $19.200 for the same agreement ( 4 years) You really need to debate what the additional $81,600 could mean to your bottom line. Even setting up multiple links from a carrier hotel - EVEN if it cost you $50K for the links would still place $30K +/- in your bottom line. I could see where some of us that but up against each other could actually build our own Network to assist each other even :-) but that is a different story Many will argue that Cogent stinks - Funny but I feel just the opposite. It is a great product for a good price. AND I find they still kick the heck out of Time Warner - but thats just my opinion. On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Is this not from time Warner? Is it from someone else at 5/Meg Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he license costs $3K and the radios $10K in the end - I can push a Gig for much lower than i could ever get from TW we are exploring this now in fact On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn’t complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email:
Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters
If you mean 23 to 19, then http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/Rackmount_Filler_Panels_Brackets.asp#REDUCER%20BRACKETS -Kristian On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 16:17 -0500, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Does anyone know where to get the rack adapters so you can mount normal 19 rackmounts in the wider racks? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters
Anixter and graybar both have them but they are pricey Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, Dec 22, 2010 21:17:22 GMT+00:00 Subject: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters Does anyone know where to get the rack adapters so you can mount normal 19 rackmounts in the wider racks? - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters
Kick ass link, thanks. Lots easier then digging through scrap metal and drilling. Not worth saving $30. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.comwrote: If you mean 23 to 19, then http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/Rackmount_Filler_Panels_Brackets.asp#REDUCER%20BRACKETS -Kristian On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 16:17 -0500, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Does anyone know where to get the rack adapters so you can mount normal 19 rackmounts in the wider racks? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters
These guys are great for all those hard to find rackmount server items. On 12/22/10, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: If you mean 23 to 19, then http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/Rackmount_Filler_Panels_Brackets.asp#REDUCER%20BRACKETS -Kristian On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 16:17 -0500, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Does anyone know where to get the rack adapters so you can mount normal 19 rackmounts in the wider racks? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters
Whoops, that isn't the company I was thinking of... http://www.racksolutions.com/?ref=logo This is. On 22 December 2010 17:58, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote: These guys are great for all those hard to find rackmount server items. On 12/22/10, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: If you mean 23 to 19, then http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/Rackmount_Filler_Panels_Brackets.asp#REDUCER%20BRACKETS -Kristian On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 16:17 -0500, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Does anyone know where to get the rack adapters so you can mount normal 19 rackmounts in the wider racks? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters
I was just about to order one of their modular power distribution strips (Power Assembly for Open Frame Rack 111). I haven't found a better way to get multiple circuits cleanly into a rack. -Kristian On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 18:09 -0500, Jeremy Parr wrote: Whoops, that isn't the company I was thinking of... http://www.racksolutions.com/?ref=logo This is. On 22 December 2010 17:58, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote: These guys are great for all those hard to find rackmount server items. On 12/22/10, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: If you mean 23 to 19, then http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/Rackmount_Filler_Panels_Brackets.asp#REDUCER%20BRACKETS -Kristian On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 16:17 -0500, can...@believewireless.net wrote: Does anyone know where to get the rack adapters so you can mount normal 19 rackmounts in the wider racks? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters
On 22 December 2010 18:17, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: I was just about to order one of their modular power distribution strips (Power Assembly for Open Frame Rack 111). I haven't found a better way to get multiple circuits cleanly into a rack. That is cool. I love the option for putting network jacks in there as well. Saves running patch cords vertically in the cabinet, and you don't lose rack Us to patch panels. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] High Power RF close-proximity on tower question
Ouch. I can just feel the flesh boiling. Probably have to wear a radiation suite to work on your radio, being that close to that. I'd predict the Ubiquitits would get severe receiver overload without filters added. Any chance of moving your antennas further away? Or the FM antennas further away? Dont you have a non-interference clause? I'd think that would protect against receive overload also. Can you put the expense on the FM antenna guy, to buy your filters, since you were there first? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 4:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] High Power RF close-proximity on tower question Ok, I've dealt with up to about 20KW on FM transmitter 20 feet away and dealt with it decently. Now I'm told one of our installs of gear on a tower is about to get a 100KW 20ft above my gear and a TV antenna 20ft below it at 700KW channel 39 I think. Anyone have gear running close to this kind of high-power antennas? Am I screwed or will I be able to have my equipment work int his RF environment? Assume I did everything right (grounded metal box, shielded cable soldered drain wires, ferrite cores on the cables etc...). Thanks Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless
It was a win because the FCC did not decide to go after title-II reclassification. Taking authority under Title I will only allow limited authority in my opinion, and their authority and decissions could be challenged in court. Considering that many believe that titleI does not give the authority. So likely FCC would take a more conservative appproach, while wallking the thin line between what they can do and not do without pissing someone off to go to court. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: MDK To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless No, we LOST. You see, once they have the power, they have the power.It is not a victory to be partially regulated, or to get partial exemption. I cannot imagine why industry is rolling over and playing dead for this. As far as I'm concerned it's come and arrest me, coppers and I will damn well NOT comply. And if we all did that. They'd just give up. But we're too chicken to stand up for ourselves, as a country, anymore, apparently. I don't know when people forgot that according to the Constitution, we tell the government what to do and where to get off, not the other way around. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ From: Joe Fiero Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 2:12 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Flexible rules promised for wireless It's good to see all our efforts pay off. REUTERS updated 2 minutes ago 2010-12-20T21:45:55 WASHINGTON - The Federal Communications Commission is expected to adopt Internet traffic rules on Tuesday that would ban the blocking of lawful content, but allow high-speed Internet providers to manage their networks, senior agency officials said Monday. Commissioners Michael Copps and Mignon Clyburn had expressed concerns with the proposal laid out by FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski early this month, but senior FCC officials said they had come to an agreement and are expected to vote in favor of the rules. Genachowski proposed banning the blocking of lawful traffic but allowing Internet providers to manage network congestion and charge consumers based on Internet usage. The rules would be more flexible for wireless broadband, Genachowski said in a previous speech, acknowledging that wireless is at an earlier stage of development than terrestrial Internet service. -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
