Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...
He joined a mission or a missionary? He got a missionary position? Greg On Nov 29, 2011, at 9:33 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I heard you left to join a missionary. ;-) > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > On 11/29/2011 12:52 PM, Rick Kunze wrote: >> Or as I like to phrase it: "You won't get rich in the WISP business, >> but it beats working for a living." >> >> >> >> Rk >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...
I heard you left to join a missionary. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2011 12:52 PM, Rick Kunze wrote: > Or as I like to phrase it: "You won't get rich in the WISP business, > but it beats working for a living." > > > > Rk > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] opinion on Yellow Jackets?
What do others here think about the Yellow Jacket tablets / hand helds? AirMagnet is very buggy (crashes all the time, finicky with WiFi cards), and I'm looking for something easy to use in the field that outputs data that is easy to post process later. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...
Probably waiting for that Amber Kunze to be done so he can ship some to me. -- Original Message -- From: "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:09:15 -0500 >It's a Rick Kunze siting! How the heck are you Rick? > >Regards, > >Jeff >ImageStream Sales Manager >800-813-5123 x106 > >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On >Behalf Of Rick Kunze >Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:53 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... > >Or as I like to phrase it: "You won't get rich in the WISP business, >but it beats working for a living." > > > >Rk > > > >--- - > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ >--- - > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4046 - Release Date: 11/29/11 > > > >--- - >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ >--- - > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...
It's a Rick Kunze siting! How the heck are you Rick? Regards, Jeff ImageStream Sales Manager 800-813-5123 x106 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Kunze Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... Or as I like to phrase it: "You won't get rich in the WISP business, but it beats working for a living." Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4046 - Release Date: 11/29/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...
Or as I like to phrase it: "You won't get rich in the WISP business, but it beats working for a living." Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...
Rich, You might want to take a look at the white paper that I recently produced for WISPA that highlights how WISPs are successful. You can find it here: http://www.wirelesscowboys.com/?p=252One of the things that makes WISPs successful is the use of fixed wireless, meaning the installation of high-gain antennas at the customer location. This enables faster speeds and much higher reliability than dongle type installations. The self-install business models look good on paper, but do not scale up well enough in the real world and that generally ruins the business model. It doesn't really matter whether you use licensed spectrum or not. Fixed wireless has many advantages over mobile broadband and the "dongles" and those advantages are going to become even more apparent as Internet utilization continues to increase and the mobile networks get more and more overloaded. I would strongly encourage anyone on the list who hasn't read this paper yet to take 15 minutes and go through it. I am directing people who are unfamiliar with WISPs to read this first and they come back with a much better understanding of what we do and how valuable it is to our communities. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 11/28/2011 6:24 PM, Rich _ wrote: The answer to my last question was obvious from the posts so far. I should have asked if there are licensed frequencies that I can still purchase and if so how much do the range in cost? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Matt Jenkins mailto:m...@smarterbroadband.net>> wrote: Proprietary equipment in most cases. They also use licensed frequency which they pay a premium for. On 11/28/2011 04:51 PM, Rich _ wrote: What type of equipment does Clear/OpenRange use that allows a connection using one of those 1"x3" USB things? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: None that I know of. Those are the companies like Clear and OpenRange. That model doesn't seem to financially or operationally/technically work. Most if not all the Wisps here install equipment on vertical space (grain leg, building, tower) and install a CPE on the customer roof. From the CPE side, a lot like satellite. Low profile but it is there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 28, 2011 7:40 PM, "Rich _" mailto:rich.ema...@gmail.com>> wrote: How do the companies that have a dongle do it? Are they using something other than a WISP? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Sam Tetherow mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net>> wrote: Rich, Given current gear, FCC regulations and available spectrum, outside of reselling cellular you are not going to going to find anything you will be able to reliable allow the customer to self-install. Trust me, there are smarter minds than mine that have been trying to figure that one out since this industry started. As Jay mentioned, Clearwire is probably the closest business model to what you are looking for, and even with their deep pockets and licensed spectrum they are having a tough time making it work. And I think it is precisely because they are choosing to go the route that you are looking for. If they took their spectrum and equipment and used it as traditional, professionally installed fixed wireless setup they would probably have a working business model. Sure their return on investment would be higher due to the installer cost, but if they took a dish-network model to getting installs done they would only be looking at 3-6 months break even on the install cost and considering the amount of money that has already been poured into the business I would think that would be a drop in the bucket. Rich _ wrote: > Thx Faisal, I'm located in PA in the USA. > > But, I'm not interested in starting a WISP based on where I'm located. > I'm interested in finding a location that best enables success for the > business. > > Yes, I would be looked at as the business/funding person. A technical > partner or technical contractor/employee would
Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...
Yes. On 11/28/2011 05:18 PM, Rich _ wrote: > Then, most WISP operations use unlicensed freqencies? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...
Rich, As I see it, you have two options. One is to get into the fixed wireless business and find a tech person that KNOWS what they are doing. If you are going to outsource everything, you MUST know what is going on with the network and not just "run it", or you cannot control the functions of the business. This doesn't mean you need to be an expert, but must know how to set metrics for the outsourced companies and have standards they must meet. DO NOT get into the mobile business with the unlicensed spectrum that is available... too many variables to provide a good service. Second option is to partner with a Verizon build-out like Charles Wu. He is licensing some of the 700MHz spectrum from VZW and building it out for them in hopes he will make money along the way and possibly sell it back to them when it is done. This model allows VZW to not lose their frequencies because they have to use it or lose it. This is also LTE, and able to do mobile broadband. IMO, I have always been told that a smart investor should only get into something they know about. If you don't know how ISPs work, should probably stay away from it until you do know it. I am not saying you shouldn't do it, just maybe not now. Stay on here, ask a lot of questions and maybe you will find that tech partner you need. Thanks, Eric From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rich _ Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:33 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list... Hello, I operate in the custom software development industry and am considering setting up a WISP as a new business investment. I know very little about the industry and am hoping that some of you will not mind giving me some feedback. In exchange, I'll be glad to answer any software development questions you may have that I can answer or that I can get an answer for. I'm a business person. I'm not interested in learning the low-level details about wireless hardware or protocals above and beyond what I need to run the business. I have no desire to ever install/troubleshoot/repair the equipment myself. What I want to do is own the service and run the business. My first thoughts are I want a setup that makes it easiest for the customer to start using the service. If there is a particular hardware setup that lets me mail a dongle (small device that would plug into a USB port) to the customer and viola they're up and running, great! Also, I am wondering if operating in a licensed spectrum will provide me with some protection from frequency overload. I am interested in finding people who may be able to help me analyze a territory for potential profitability and engineer a setup. So, if it doesn't violate mailing list rules, feel free to respond with your contact information so that I can contact you to find out what it would cost for your services. I know I have a lot to learn and want to stick with high-level information so that I can quickly determine if this is a good opportunity for me. Thanks, Rich WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
