Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

2012-03-24 Thread Gino Villarini
I own several 24 ghz gear from Dragonwave, SAF and soon Trango

I'm in rain zone N , so I think I can really puts this units trough it paces...

I ordered 4 links @ 11am

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:30 PM, Doug Clark 
d...@txox.commailto:d...@txox.com wrote:

I have two on order and will test them to their limits and report back.  With 
the original Moto team designing this baby anything is possible.




---Original Message---

From: Jeromie Reevesmailto:jree...@18-30chat.net
Date: 3/23/2012 9:30:25 PM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

That is what I figured from experience too. I would love to be wrong and they 
have some kinda magic sauce
that makes it work.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Doug Clark 
d...@txox.commailto:d...@txox.com wrote:
Honestly I do not see these links being solid at 5 miles.  That's just my 
opinion and experience with 23 and 24ghz freq.  It does have ACM so it will 
demodulate.




---Original Message---

From: Jeromie Reevesmailto:jree...@18-30chat.net
Date: 3/23/2012 9:22:59 PM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

How long till they ship? Then how long to real availability? And does anyone 
have test units? That 13km is a bit far for 24ghz. The PDF does not say if it 
can automatically rate shift or not. I am already working out links that this 
could replace (about 12 of them)
but they are all 5mi+/-

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Doug Clark 
d...@txox.commailto:d...@txox.com wrote:
Yes sir!  And the price is actually 2995.00 per link!!  Taking pre-orders as we 
speak.




---Original Message---

From: Forbes Mercymailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
Date: 3/23/2012 8:32:25 PM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

I read that it was for a pair, is that incorrect?

On 3/23/2012 10:14 AM, Doug Clark wrote:
2999.00 per link!




---Original Message---

From: Zach Mannmailto:zma...@gmail.com
Date: 3/23/2012 11:13:51 AM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics


Price range ?  :)

On Mar 23, 2012 12:06 PM, Gino Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
700 mbps fdx, 1.4 Gig Agg

24Ghz

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787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143
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Nice.  Gig speeds ?
On Mar 23, 2012 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini 
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

2012-03-24 Thread Matt Hoppes
What kind of non-dropping link distances are you seeing with your existing 
equipment?



On Mar 24, 2012, at 9:24, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

 I own several 24 ghz gear from Dragonwave, SAF and soon Trango
 
 I'm in rain zone N , so I think I can really puts this units trough it 
 paces...
 
 I ordered 4 links @ 11am
 
 Sent from my Motorola Startac... 
 
 
 On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:30 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:
 
 I have two on order and will test them to their limits and report back.  
 With the original Moto team designing this baby anything is 
 possible. 
  
  
  
  
 ---Original Message---
  
 From: Jeromie Reeves
 Date: 3/23/2012 9:30:25 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics
  
 That is what I figured from experience too. I would love to be wrong and 
 they have some kinda magic sauce
 that makes it work.
 
 On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:
 Honestly I do not see these links being solid at 5 miles.  That's just my 
 opinion and experience with 23 and 24ghz freq.  It does have ACM so it will 
 demodulate. 
  
  
  
  
 ---Original Message---
  
 From: Jeromie Reeves
 Date: 3/23/2012 9:22:59 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics
  
 How long till they ship? Then how long to real availability? And does anyone 
 have test units? That 13km is a bit far for 24ghz. The PDF does not say if 
 it can automatically rate shift or not. I am already working out links that 
 this could replace (about 12 of them)
 but they are all 5mi+/-
 
 On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Doug Clark d...@txox.com wrote:
 Yes sir!  And the price is actually 2995.00 per link!!  Taking pre-orders as 
 we speak. 
  
  
  
  
 ---Original Message---
  
 From: Forbes Mercy
 Date: 3/23/2012 8:32:25 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics
  
 I read that it was for a pair, is that incorrect?
 
 On 3/23/2012 10:14 AM, Doug Clark wrote:
 2999.00 per link! 
  
  
  
  
 ---Original Message---
  
 From: Zach Mann
 Date: 3/23/2012 11:13:51 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics
  
 Price range ?  :)
 
 On Mar 23, 2012 12:06 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 700 mbps fdx, 1.4 Gig Agg
 
  
 
 24Ghz
 
  
 
 Gino A. Villarini
 
 g...@aeronetpr.com
 
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 
 787.273.4143
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
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 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:04 PM
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 Nice.  Gig speeds ?
 
 On Mar 23, 2012 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [WISPA] NanoStation M w/ Reflector Installs

2012-03-24 Thread wispawireless
I'll never install a reflector setup. Don't ask why, I don't know.



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From: Greg Osborn gregosb...@onlyinternet.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 11:28:08 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NanoStation M w/ Reflector Installs


There is nothing easy about the nanobridge install. 100% PITA and the gain 
isn't very great. 10-12 db additional with a securalign or kpp. The power is 
much lower on the bridges also. 600 mw vs 200-300. 

On 3/23/2012 12:03 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: 

trying to standardize on a single radio platform with the NSM2.

On 3/23/2012 10:58 AM, m...@tc3net.com wrote: 

Why not just use Nanobridge? They work well, and are cheaper then NS2/Reflector 
combo, and easier to install, probably at the same gain.

Regards
Michael Baird

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From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group 
ubnt_us...@wispa.org , WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: 
Friday, March 23, 2012 11:55:11 AM
Subject: [WISPA] NanoStation M w/ Reflector Installs

We have decided to standardize on the NanoStationM2 for all our 2.4Ghz
installs.  At this time, the installers use the lights on the radio for
alignment.  When using a reflector, they are complaining that they can't
see the lights on the radio to align it.  Besides allowing them to login
to the radio to check signal, what are you guys doing to properly align
the NSM radios when using a reflector?  Is it as difficult as my
installers are making it out to be? 

-- 
Thanks 
Greg Osborn 
Tech Support and Field Service Manager 
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

2012-03-24 Thread Gino Villarini
With SAF Luminas we don’t push 1to1 links more than 1 mile, 2to2 links 1.6 
miles,  after that we see link drops on heavy rain.

Lowest modulation on the Luminas is qpsk, they have auto modulation, so we 
config them to 256qam which puts power to -7db.

I haven’t researched if power goes up to 0 in a qpsk downshift event …

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 9:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

What kind of non-dropping link distances are you seeing with your existing 
equipment?


On Mar 24, 2012, at 9:24, Gino Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
I own several 24 ghz gear from Dragonwave, SAF and soon Trango

I'm in rain zone N , so I think I can really puts this units trough it paces...

I ordered 4 links @ 11am

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:30 PM, Doug Clark 
d...@txox.commailto:d...@txox.com wrote:
I have two on order and will test them to their limits and report back.  With 
the original Moto team designing this baby anything is possible.




---Original Message---

From: Jeromie Reevesmailto:jree...@18-30chat.net
Date: 3/23/2012 9:30:25 PM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

That is what I figured from experience too. I would love to be wrong and they 
have some kinda magic sauce
that makes it work.
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Doug Clark 
d...@txox.commailto:d...@txox.com wrote:
Honestly I do not see these links being solid at 5 miles.  That's just my 
opinion and experience with 23 and 24ghz freq.  It does have ACM so it will 
demodulate.




---Original Message---

From: Jeromie Reevesmailto:jree...@18-30chat.net
Date: 3/23/2012 9:22:59 PM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

How long till they ship? Then how long to real availability? And does anyone 
have test units? That 13km is a bit far for 24ghz. The PDF does not say if it 
can automatically rate shift or not. I am already working out links that this 
could replace (about 12 of them)
but they are all 5mi+/-
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Doug Clark 
d...@txox.commailto:d...@txox.com wrote:
Yes sir!  And the price is actually 2995.00 per link!!  Taking pre-orders as we 
speak.




---Original Message---

From: Forbes Mercymailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
Date: 3/23/2012 8:32:25 PM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

I read that it was for a pair, is that incorrect?

On 3/23/2012 10:14 AM, Doug Clark wrote:
2999.00 per link!




---Original Message---

From: Zach Mannmailto:zma...@gmail.com
Date: 3/23/2012 11:13:51 AM
To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics


Price range ?  :)
On Mar 23, 2012 12:06 PM, Gino Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
700 mbps fdx, 1.4 Gig Agg

24Ghz

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
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Behalf Of Zach Mann
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics


Nice.  Gig speeds ?
On Mar 23, 2012 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143tel:787.273.4143

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Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

2012-03-24 Thread wispawireless
Keep in mind that the airFiber has a receive antenna that is 5 dB stronger, so 
during rain storms (depending on your rain fall), you get a couple more 
kilometers out of the link all else the same.



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- Original Message -
From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 9:36:32 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics





With SAF Luminas we don’t push 1to1 links more than 1 mile, 2to2 links 1.6 
miles, after that we see link drops on heavy rain. 



Lowest modulation on the Luminas is qpsk, they have auto modulation, so we 
config them to 256qam which puts power to -7db. 



I haven’t researched if power goes up to 0 in a qpsk downshift event … 




Gino A. Villarini 

g...@aeronetpr.com 

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 

787.273.4143 



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt Hoppes 
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 9:32 AM 
To: WISPA General List 
Cc: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics 




What kind of non-dropping link distances are you seeing with your existing 
equipment? 





On Mar 24, 2012, at 9:24, Gino Villarini  g...@aeronetpr.com  wrote: 





I own several 24 ghz gear from Dragonwave, SAF and soon Trango 





I'm in rain zone N , so I think I can really puts this units trough it paces... 





I ordered 4 links @ 11am 

Sent from my Motorola Startac... 






On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:30 PM, Doug Clark  d...@txox.com  wrote: 








I have two on order and will test them to their limits and report back. With 
the original Moto team designing this baby anything is possible. 
















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From: Jeromie Reeves 


Date: 3/23/2012 9:30:25 PM 


To: WISPA General List 


Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics 




That is what I figured from experience too. I would love to be wrong and they 
have some kinda magic sauce 
that makes it work. 


On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Doug Clark  d...@txox.com  wrote: 







Honestly I do not see these links being solid at 5 miles. That's just my 
opinion and experience with 23 and 24ghz freq. It does have ACM so it will 
demodulate. 
















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From: Jeromie Reeves 


Date: 3/23/2012 9:22:59 PM 




To: WISPA General List 


Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics 






How long till they ship? Then how long to real availability? And does anyone 
have test units? That 13km is a bit far for 24ghz. The PDF does not say if it 
can automatically rate shift or not. I am already working out links that this 
could replace (about 12 of them) 
but they are all 5mi+/- 


On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Doug Clark  d...@txox.com  wrote: 







Yes sir! And the price is actually 2995.00 per link!! Taking pre-orders as we 
speak. 
















---Original Message--- 






From: Forbes Mercy 


Date: 3/23/2012 8:32:25 PM 


To: WISPA General List 




Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics 






I read that it was for a pair, is that incorrect? 

On 3/23/2012 10:14 AM, Doug Clark wrote: 






2999.00 per link! 
















---Original Message--- 






From: Zach Mann 


Date: 3/23/2012 11:13:51 AM 


To: WISPA General List 


Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics 




Price range ? :) 


On Mar 23, 2012 12:06 PM, Gino Villarini  g...@aeronetpr.com  wrote: 




700 mbps fdx, 1.4 Gig Agg 



24Ghz 



Gino A. Villarini 

g...@aeronetpr.com 

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 

787.273.4143 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
Behalf Of Zach Mann 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:04 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Cc: a...@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics 



Nice. Gig speeds ? 


On Mar 23, 2012 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini  g...@aeronetpr.com  wrote: 







Gino A. Villarini 

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Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

2012-03-24 Thread Gino Villarini
SAF antenna gains:

1ft 35 db
2ft 40 db

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Of wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 11:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

Keep in mind that the airFiber has a receive antenna that is 5 dB stronger, so 
during rain storms (depending on your rain fall), you get a couple more 
kilometers out of the link all else the same.



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From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 9:36:32 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics





With SAF Luminas we don’t push 1to1 links more than 1 mile, 2to2 links 1.6 
miles, after that we see link drops on heavy rain. 



Lowest modulation on the Luminas is qpsk, they have auto modulation, so we 
config them to 256qam which puts power to -7db. 



I haven’t researched if power goes up to 0 in a qpsk downshift event … 




Gino A. Villarini 

g...@aeronetpr.com 

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 

787.273.4143 



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Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 9:32 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics 




What kind of non-dropping link distances are you seeing with your existing 
equipment? 





On Mar 24, 2012, at 9:24, Gino Villarini  g...@aeronetpr.com  wrote: 





I own several 24 ghz gear from Dragonwave, SAF and soon Trango 





I'm in rain zone N , so I think I can really puts this units trough it paces... 





I ordered 4 links @ 11am 

Sent from my Motorola Startac... 






On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:30 PM, Doug Clark  d...@txox.com  wrote: 








I have two on order and will test them to their limits and report back. With 
the original Moto team designing this baby anything is possible. 
















---Original Message--- 






From: Jeromie Reeves 


Date: 3/23/2012 9:30:25 PM 


To: WISPA General List 


Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics 




That is what I figured from experience too. I would love to be wrong and they 
have some kinda magic sauce that makes it work. 


On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Doug Clark  d...@txox.com  wrote: 







Honestly I do not see these links being solid at 5 miles. That's just my 
opinion and experience with 23 and 24ghz freq. It does have ACM so it will 
demodulate. 
















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From: Jeromie Reeves 


Date: 3/23/2012 9:22:59 PM 




To: WISPA General List 


Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics 






How long till they ship? Then how long to real availability? And does anyone 
have test units? That 13km is a bit far for 24ghz. The PDF does not say if it 
can automatically rate shift or not. I am already working out links that this 
could replace (about 12 of them) 
but they are all 5mi+/- 


On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Doug Clark  d...@txox.com  wrote: 







Yes sir! And the price is actually 2995.00 per link!! Taking pre-orders as we 
speak. 
















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From: Forbes Mercy 


Date: 3/23/2012 8:32:25 PM 


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics 






I read that it was for a pair, is that incorrect? 

On 3/23/2012 10:14 AM, Doug Clark wrote: 






2999.00 per link! 
















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From: Zach Mann 


Date: 3/23/2012 11:13:51 AM 


To: WISPA General List 


Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics 




Price range ? :) 


On Mar 23, 2012 12:06 PM, Gino Villarini  g...@aeronetpr.com  wrote: 




700 mbps fdx, 1.4 Gig Agg 



24Ghz 



Gino A. Villarini 

g...@aeronetpr.com 

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 

787.273.4143 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
Behalf Of Zach Mann 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:04 PM 
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Cc: a...@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics 



Nice. Gig speeds ? 


On Mar 23, 2012 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini  g...@aeronetpr.com  wrote: 







Gino A. Villarini 

g...@aeronetpr.com 

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 

787.273.4143 


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[WISPA] Off Grid Power Bid RFQ

2012-03-24 Thread Kevin Owen
First Step Internet, LLC is now seeking bids for an off grid power solution.  
Please refer to the bid document for further information. The bid document can 
be found at http://btop.fsr.com/DrawVendors.aspx?VendorID=14   The bids are due 
by 4/2/2012.  Please refer all questions to b...@fsr.com.
 
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