[WISPA] Cool podcast

2012-06-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Some friends of mine have started a WISP related podcast. I encourage you guys to check out http://thebrotherswisp.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF

2012-06-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
I'm not sure that any sort of CLEC that you are piped into would count Fred. That's not facilities based. They are, but the company providing service isn't. And the rules specifically state that the voice provider has to be facilities based. It may be fuzzy though. I know our voice circuits

Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF

2012-06-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
Right. But we have to SELL the filing now. Just putting it on paper isn't enough. If it were, our competition wouldn't be at the FCC on a daily basis :-). marlon - Original Message - From: Jack Unger To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA's FCC Committee Sent: Tuesday, May 29,

Re: [WISPA] UC Berkeley study on WISPs

2012-06-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
I took the survey and a couple of things didn't quite fit for us. On the outages. We have a lot of tower sites and 4 different upstream connections. There is always some kind of trouble somewhere on the network. But the whole network has almost never gone down and never for very long. Power

Re: [WISPA] UC Berkeley study on WISPs

2012-06-01 Thread Shaddi Hasan
Thanks for the feedback Marlon; I'll try to clarify. By outage, I mean any downtime anywhere in your network. So if a hypothetical power failure knocked out one customer for ten minutes, that would count as ten minutes of outage in my usage; likewise, if such an outage affected the whole network,

Re: [WISPA] UC Berkeley study on WISPs

2012-06-01 Thread Scott Reed
I am not sure exactly what you are trying to learn, but you may want to change some questions to really understand. In no way would I equate 10 minutes of a customer down with 10 minutes of an AP down. Likewise, 10 minutes of an AP down does not equate to 10 minutes of an entire tower down.

Re: [WISPA] UC Berkeley study on WISPs

2012-06-01 Thread Joe Cracchiolo
I don't know what you looking for as far as statistical outcome with regards to the outage metrics, but with larger scale networks, there is always something down. If you count downtime in minutes, then I would think you need to count uptime in minutes multiplied by the number of devices,

Re: [WISPA] UC Berkeley study on WISPs

2012-06-01 Thread Shaddi Hasan
Points well-taken! I'll make sure I address this. Thanks, Shaddi On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: I am not sure exactly what you are trying to learn, but you may want to change some questions to really understand. In no way would I equate 10 minutes of a

Re: [WISPA] USF/CAF

2012-06-01 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 6/1/2012 12:38 PM, MarlonS wrote: I'm not sure that any sort of CLEC that you are piped into would count Fred. That's not facilities based. They are, but the company providing service isn't. And the rules specifically state that the voice provider has to be facilities based. It may be fuzzy