Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

2013-08-28 Thread John Thomas 
Unfortunately, pricing is all over the board, and there are schools that are 
buying 100 meg circuits. In CA Comcast territory, they offer 100 meg by 10 ( or 
20 ) for about $399 per month. Now, we all know that Comcast cherry picks where 
they provide service, so there are those that are a block away from Comcast 
facilities that have been quoted $10,000 or more to get connected.

In Oakland CA, there is a wireless provider that is doing 25 meg / 25 meg at 
$375 per month. In San Francisco Monkey brains is doing something similar.

John

Kevin Owen  wrote:
>It will be an interesting discussion for sure.  We currently have
>service built to many schools, most with the capacity to provide 100 +
>megs.  Most schools are purchasing somewhere in the 5 – 20meg range as
>that is what they can afford, including their current subsidy from
>E-Rate.  We are providing service to rural schools and they just can’t
>afford more.  Not sure how the FCC feels these schools will be able to
>afford 100+ meg connections and beyond that, where does the money come
>from to continue to fund E-Rate with what are sure to be large
>increased demands on the funding to support these larger pipes.
>
>Kevin
>
>
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:35 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd
>
>I think so. I asked the same question a few weeks ago and the response
>was something to the effect of, "Is this something WISPA members want
>to respond to?" The response seemed to be a resounding yes.
>
>Now I just hope that it's something that we can get a piece of vs.
>telling them to not do it.
>
>
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>Mike Hammett
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>From: "Kevin Owen" mailto:ko...@fsr.com>>
>To: "WISPA General List"
>mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:42:13 PM
>Subject: [WISPA] ConnectEd
>Do we know if WISPA as an organization is currently reviewing or plans
>to review/make comments to the NPRM for the revisions to the E-Rate
>program.  Is WISPA following the discussions concerning the Federal
>ConnectED program that wants to see a minimum connection standard to
>all schools and libraries of 100 megs with a 5 year goal of having
>access to 1 gig of available bandwidth for all schools and libraries?
>
>thanks,
>
>Kevin Owen
>First Step Internet, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

2013-08-28 Thread Brian Webster 
Right now the rule of thumb for adequate bandwidth to a school is 100k per 
student. Documenting what schools currently have is a hot topic for the 
national broadband map. We are diving deep on this topic in Illinois and it’s 
like herding cats. We did hear back from the Chicago City Schools and while we 
are trying to get a more definitive data set from them, they did state that the 
high school buildings typically have 50 meg and the elementary buildings 20 
meg. There are many more elementary school buildings than high school buildings 
in Chicago so the student population at each location is different and this the 
different bandwidth. 

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

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Of Kevin Owen
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

 

It will be an interesting discussion for sure.  We currently have service built 
to many schools, most with the capacity to provide 100 + megs.  Most schools 
are purchasing somewhere in the 5 – 20meg range as that is what they can 
afford, including their current subsidy from E-Rate.  We are providing service 
to rural schools and they just can’t afford more.  Not sure how the FCC feels 
these schools will be able to afford 100+ meg connections and beyond that, 
where does the money come from to continue to fund E-Rate with what are sure to 
be large increased demands on the funding to support these larger pipes.

 

Kevin

 

 

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Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

 

I think so. I asked the same question a few weeks ago and the response was 
something to the effect of, "Is this something WISPA members want to respond 
to?" The response seemed to be a resounding yes.

Now I just hope that it's something that we can get a piece of vs. telling them 
to not do it.



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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 

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From: "Kevin Owen" 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:42:13 PM
Subject: [WISPA] ConnectEd

Do we know if WISPA as an organization is currently reviewing or plans to 
review/make comments to the NPRM for the revisions to the E-Rate program.  Is 
WISPA following the discussions concerning the Federal ConnectED program that 
wants to see a minimum connection standard to all schools and libraries of 100 
megs with a 5 year goal of having access to 1 gig of available bandwidth for 
all schools and libraries?

thanks,

Kevin Owen

First Step Internet, LLC  


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Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

2013-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett 
I don't know. I know sessions were recorded at Vegas last year, but as a 
presenter, I never heard anything back on them. 




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From: "Gino Villarini"  
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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:05:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd 



Recorded? 


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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:52 PM 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd 


We had a session at WISPAmerica. Should have them more regularly. 



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From: "Gino Villarini" < g...@aeronetpr.com > 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 2:52:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd 
Erate how to on Wispapalooza? 


Gino A. Villarini 
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787.273.4143 


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
Behalf Of Kevin Owen 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:50 PM 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd 

It will be an interesting discussion for sure. We currently have service built 
to many schools, most with the capacity to provide 100 + megs. Most schools are 
purchasing somewhere in the 5 – 20meg range as that is what they can afford, 
including their current subsidy from E-Rate. We are providing service to rural 
schools and they just can’t afford more. Not sure how the FCC feels these 
schools will be able to afford 100+ meg connections and beyond that, where does 
the money come from to continue to fund E-Rate with what are sure to be large 
increased demands on the funding to support these larger pipes. 

Kevin 




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Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:35 PM 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd 


I think so. I asked the same question a few weeks ago and the response was 
something to the effect of, "Is this something WISPA members want to respond 
to?" The response seemed to be a resounding yes. 

Now I just hope that it's something that we can get a piece of vs. telling them 
to not do it. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Kevin Owen" < ko...@fsr.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:42:13 PM 
Subject: [WISPA] ConnectEd 
Do we know if WISPA as an organization is currently reviewing or plans to 
review/make comments to the NPRM for the revisions to the E-Rate program. Is 
WISPA following the discussions concerning the Federal ConnectED program that 
wants to see a minimum connection standard to all schools and libraries of 100 
megs with a 5 year goal of having access to 1 gig of available bandwidth for 
all schools and libraries? 

thanks, 

Kevin Owen 
First Step Internet, LLC 

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Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

2013-08-28 Thread Gino Villarini 
Recorded?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

We had a session at WISPAmerica. Should have them more regularly.


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From: "Gino Villarini" mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 2:52:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd
Erate how to on Wispapalooza?

Gino A. Villarini
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787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Owen
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

It will be an interesting discussion for sure.  We currently have service built 
to many schools, most with the capacity to provide 100 + megs.  Most schools 
are purchasing somewhere in the 5 – 20meg range as that is what they can 
afford, including their current subsidy from E-Rate.  We are providing service 
to rural schools and they just can’t afford more.  Not sure how the FCC feels 
these schools will be able to afford 100+ meg connections and beyond that, 
where does the money come from to continue to fund E-Rate with what are sure to 
be large increased demands on the funding to support these larger pipes.

Kevin


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

I think so. I asked the same question a few weeks ago and the response was 
something to the effect of, "Is this something WISPA members want to respond 
to?" The response seemed to be a resounding yes.

Now I just hope that it's something that we can get a piece of vs. telling them 
to not do it.


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From: "Kevin Owen" mailto:ko...@fsr.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:42:13 PM
Subject: [WISPA] ConnectEd
Do we know if WISPA as an organization is currently reviewing or plans to 
review/make comments to the NPRM for the revisions to the E-Rate program.  Is 
WISPA following the discussions concerning the Federal ConnectED program that 
wants to see a minimum connection standard to all schools and libraries of 100 
megs with a 5 year goal of having access to 1 gig of available bandwidth for 
all schools and libraries?

thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

2013-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett 
We had a session at WISPAmerica. Should have them more regularly. 




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From: "Gino Villarini"  
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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 2:52:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd 



Erate how to on Wispapalooza? 


Gino A. Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.com 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
787.273.4143 


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Kevin Owen 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:50 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd 

It will be an interesting discussion for sure. We currently have service built 
to many schools, most with the capacity to provide 100 + megs. Most schools are 
purchasing somewhere in the 5 – 20meg range as that is what they can afford, 
including their current subsidy from E-Rate. We are providing service to rural 
schools and they just can’t afford more. Not sure how the FCC feels these 
schools will be able to afford 100+ meg connections and beyond that, where does 
the money come from to continue to fund E-Rate with what are sure to be large 
increased demands on the funding to support these larger pipes. 

Kevin 




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:35 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd 


I think so. I asked the same question a few weeks ago and the response was 
something to the effect of, "Is this something WISPA members want to respond 
to?" The response seemed to be a resounding yes. 

Now I just hope that it's something that we can get a piece of vs. telling them 
to not do it. 



- 
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: "Kevin Owen" < ko...@fsr.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:42:13 PM 
Subject: [WISPA] ConnectEd 
Do we know if WISPA as an organization is currently reviewing or plans to 
review/make comments to the NPRM for the revisions to the E-Rate program. Is 
WISPA following the discussions concerning the Federal ConnectED program that 
wants to see a minimum connection standard to all schools and libraries of 100 
megs with a 5 year goal of having access to 1 gig of available bandwidth for 
all schools and libraries? 

thanks, 

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Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

2013-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett 
I think a higher USF fee on your phone bill. 




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From: "Kevin Owen"  
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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 2:50:22 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd 



It will be an interesting discussion for sure. We currently have service built 
to many schools, most with the capacity to provide 100 + megs. Most schools are 
purchasing somewhere in the 5 – 20meg range as that is what they can afford, 
including their current subsidy from E-Rate. We are providing service to rural 
schools and they just can’t afford more. Not sure how the FCC feels these 
schools will be able to afford 100+ meg connections and beyond that, where does 
the money come from to continue to fund E-Rate with what are sure to be large 
increased demands on the funding to support these larger pipes. 

Kevin 




From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:35 PM 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd 


I think so. I asked the same question a few weeks ago and the response was 
something to the effect of, "Is this something WISPA members want to respond 
to?" The response seemed to be a resounding yes. 

Now I just hope that it's something that we can get a piece of vs. telling them 
to not do it. 



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From: "Kevin Owen" < ko...@fsr.com > 
To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:42:13 PM 
Subject: [WISPA] ConnectEd 
Do we know if WISPA as an organization is currently reviewing or plans to 
review/make comments to the NPRM for the revisions to the E-Rate program. Is 
WISPA following the discussions concerning the Federal ConnectED program that 
wants to see a minimum connection standard to all schools and libraries of 100 
megs with a 5 year goal of having access to 1 gig of available bandwidth for 
all schools and libraries? 

thanks, 

Kevin Owen 
First Step Internet, LLC 

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Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

2013-08-28 Thread Gino Villarini 
Erate how to on Wispapalooza?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Kevin Owen
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

It will be an interesting discussion for sure.  We currently have service built 
to many schools, most with the capacity to provide 100 + megs.  Most schools 
are purchasing somewhere in the 5 – 20meg range as that is what they can 
afford, including their current subsidy from E-Rate.  We are providing service 
to rural schools and they just can’t afford more.  Not sure how the FCC feels 
these schools will be able to afford 100+ meg connections and beyond that, 
where does the money come from to continue to fund E-Rate with what are sure to 
be large increased demands on the funding to support these larger pipes.

Kevin


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

I think so. I asked the same question a few weeks ago and the response was 
something to the effect of, "Is this something WISPA members want to respond 
to?" The response seemed to be a resounding yes.

Now I just hope that it's something that we can get a piece of vs. telling them 
to not do it.


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From: "Kevin Owen" mailto:ko...@fsr.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:42:13 PM
Subject: [WISPA] ConnectEd
Do we know if WISPA as an organization is currently reviewing or plans to 
review/make comments to the NPRM for the revisions to the E-Rate program.  Is 
WISPA following the discussions concerning the Federal ConnectED program that 
wants to see a minimum connection standard to all schools and libraries of 100 
megs with a 5 year goal of having access to 1 gig of available bandwidth for 
all schools and libraries?

thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

2013-08-28 Thread Kevin Owen 
It will be an interesting discussion for sure.  We currently have service built 
to many schools, most with the capacity to provide 100 + megs.  Most schools 
are purchasing somewhere in the 5 – 20meg range as that is what they can 
afford, including their current subsidy from E-Rate.  We are providing service 
to rural schools and they just can’t afford more.  Not sure how the FCC feels 
these schools will be able to afford 100+ meg connections and beyond that, 
where does the money come from to continue to fund E-Rate with what are sure to 
be large increased demands on the funding to support these larger pipes.

Kevin


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

I think so. I asked the same question a few weeks ago and the response was 
something to the effect of, "Is this something WISPA members want to respond 
to?" The response seemed to be a resounding yes.

Now I just hope that it's something that we can get a piece of vs. telling them 
to not do it.


-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Kevin Owen" mailto:ko...@fsr.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:42:13 PM
Subject: [WISPA] ConnectEd
Do we know if WISPA as an organization is currently reviewing or plans to 
review/make comments to the NPRM for the revisions to the E-Rate program.  Is 
WISPA following the discussions concerning the Federal ConnectED program that 
wants to see a minimum connection standard to all schools and libraries of 100 
megs with a 5 year goal of having access to 1 gig of available bandwidth for 
all schools and libraries?

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Re: [WISPA] ConnectEd

2013-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett 
I think so. I asked the same question a few weeks ago and the response was 
something to the effect of, "Is this something WISPA members want to respond 
to?" The response seemed to be a resounding yes. 

Now I just hope that it's something that we can get a piece of vs. telling them 
to not do it. 




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From: "Kevin Owen"  
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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:42:13 PM 
Subject: [WISPA] ConnectEd 



Do we know if WISPA as an organization is currently reviewing or plans to 
review/make comments to the NPRM for the revisions to the E-Rate program. Is 
WISPA following the discussions concerning the Federal ConnectED program that 
wants to see a minimum connection standard to all schools and libraries of 100 
megs with a 5 year goal of having access to 1 gig of available bandwidth for 
all schools and libraries? 

thanks, 

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[WISPA] ConnectEd

2013-08-28 Thread Kevin Owen 
Do we know if WISPA as an organization is currently reviewing or plans to 
review/make comments to the NPRM for the revisions to the E-Rate program.  Is 
WISPA following the discussions concerning the Federal ConnectED program that 
wants to see a minimum connection standard to all schools and libraries of 100 
megs with a 5 year goal of having access to 1 gig of available bandwidth for 
all schools and libraries?

thanks,

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