Re: [WISPA] AF and rain storm
What OSPF settings do you use to facilitate such a quick fail over to tik backups? Also, this wouldn't switch over until the link completely died so do you do anything special to have OSPF handle this or do you have to wait for it to die? I can just see the link getting bad enough that it will send the smallest amount of data but not drop thus limiting the capacity to even less than a backup link in place. I remember chuck talking about something in the forums about dropping ethernet past a certain signal threshold or when RF link drops. On Dec 21, 2013 12:04 AM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: Just thought I would share some real world stuff. Don’t get me wrong this is in no way dissing this AF link. It has worked geat and I fully expect it to drop off in a hard down poor like this. That’s why we have 2 5GHz MT links to fall back on. I just thought it was cool to see everything working like it should. This happened tonight. You can see our TP weather station rainfall graph. The weather station is just down the hill from pinoak tower (no longer a real pinoak). The AF link drops off, the MT 5GHz link ramping up as the AF link drops and throughput on the drain pipe stays stable while all this was happening and no lost packets. There is also link path so you can see distance and actual signal of the link right now with just basically mist. You can almost graph the rainfall rate by the throughput on the MT backup link J Thx, Jim Patient Office: 314-735-0270 towercoverage.com linktechs.net wlan1.com [image: qr_new_cell] ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless image003.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] AF and rain storm
This is where a solution like performant really shines Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF and rain storm What OSPF settings do you use to facilitate such a quick fail over to tik backups? Also, this wouldn't switch over until the link completely died so do you do anything special to have OSPF handle this or do you have to wait for it to die? I can just see the link getting bad enough that it will send the smallest amount of data but not drop thus limiting the capacity to even less than a backup link in place. I remember chuck talking about something in the forums about dropping ethernet past a certain signal threshold or when RF link drops. On Dec 21, 2013 12:04 AM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.netmailto:jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: Just thought I would share some real world stuff. Don't get me wrong this is in no way dissing this AF link. It has worked geat and I fully expect it to drop off in a hard down poor like this. That's why we have 2 5GHz MT links to fall back on. I just thought it was cool to see everything working like it should. This happened tonight. You can see our TP weather station rainfall graph. The weather station is just down the hill from pinoak tower (no longer a real pinoak). The AF link drops off, the MT 5GHz link ramping up as the AF link drops and throughput on the drain pipe stays stable while all this was happening and no lost packets. There is also link path so you can see distance and actual signal of the link right now with just basically mist. You can almost graph the rainfall rate by the throughput on the MT backup link :) Thx, Jim Patient Office: 314-735-0270tel:314-735-0270 towercoverage.comhttp://towercoverage.com/ linktechs.nethttp://linktechs.net/ wlan1.comhttp://wlan1.com/ [qr_new_cell] ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.orgmailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless inline: image001.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] AF and rain storm
Do you think this would have happened on a sorter shot? I am about to deploy two sets of AF24s at 1/2 mile and 1 mile? I was going to use Watch Dog to bring up a backup 5G link using a Digital Logger, so that the 5G radio can be off all the time until needed for safety (surge/lightning). What do you think? On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: This is where a solution like performant really shines Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl *Sent:* Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:55 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AF and rain storm What OSPF settings do you use to facilitate such a quick fail over to tik backups? Also, this wouldn't switch over until the link completely died so do you do anything special to have OSPF handle this or do you have to wait for it to die? I can just see the link getting bad enough that it will send the smallest amount of data but not drop thus limiting the capacity to even less than a backup link in place. I remember chuck talking about something in the forums about dropping ethernet past a certain signal threshold or when RF link drops. On Dec 21, 2013 12:04 AM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: Just thought I would share some real world stuff. Don’t get me wrong this is in no way dissing this AF link. It has worked geat and I fully expect it to drop off in a hard down poor like this. That’s why we have 2 5GHz MT links to fall back on. I just thought it was cool to see everything working like it should. This happened tonight. You can see our TP weather station rainfall graph. The weather station is just down the hill from pinoak tower (no longer a real pinoak). The AF link drops off, the MT 5GHz link ramping up as the AF link drops and throughput on the drain pipe stays stable while all this was happening and no lost packets. There is also link path so you can see distance and actual signal of the link right now with just basically mist. You can almost graph the rainfall rate by the throughput on the MT backup link J Thx, Jim Patient Office: 314-735-0270 towercoverage.com linktechs.net wlan1.com [image: qr_new_cell] ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- -- SCS Clay Stewart CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc., DBA Stewart Computer Services 434.263.6363 O 434.942.6510 C cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com “We Keep You Up and Running” Wireless Broadband Programming Network Services image001.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] AF and rain storm
Since we are talking about AFDo yourself a favor... upgrade your AF to 2.0(beta1) firmware It has a few features, which will make the link last longer (before dropping out totally) when it rains. This firmware also has "added GIGE carrier follows RF link functionality" ... i.e. it wil bring down the ethernet port when the RF Link goes out... thus facilitating OSPF fail-over If you are using Mikrotik or Cisco's, you should also look into BFD (Bidirectional Forwarding Detection) to have a faster failover. (unless you are using your AF Backup links as 'bonded' links)Regards. Faisal ImtiazSnappy Internet Telecom7266 SW 48 StreetMiami, FL 33155Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: "Darin Steffl" darin.ste...@mnwifi.comTo: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.orgSent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:54:35 AMSubject: Re: [WISPA] AF and rain stormWhat OSPF settings do you use to facilitate such a quick fail over to tik backups? Also, this wouldn't switch over until the link completely died so do you do anything special to have OSPF handle this or do you have to wait for it to die? I can just see the link getting bad enough that it will send the smallest amount of data but not drop thus limiting the capacity to even less than a backup link in place.I remember chuck talking about something in the forums about dropping ethernet past a certain signal threshold or when RF link drops.On Dec 21, 2013 12:04 AM, "Jim Patient" jpati...@linktechs.net wrote:Just thought I would share some real world stuff. Don’t get me wrong this is in no way dissing this AF link. It has worked geat and I fully expect it to drop off in a hard down poor like this. That’s why we have 2 5GHz MT links to fall back on. I just thought it was cool to see everything working like it should. This happened tonight. You can see our TP weather station rainfall graph. The weather station is just down the hill from pinoak tower (no longer a real pinoak). The AF link drops off, the MT 5GHz link ramping up as the AF link drops and throughput on the drain pipe stays stable while all this was happening and no lost packets.There is also link path so you can see distance and actual signal of the link right now with just basically mist.You can almost graph the rainfall rate by the throughput on the MT backup link JThx, Jim PatientOffice: 314-735-0270towercoverage.com linktechs.netwlan1.com___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Allot equipment
Can the PFsense box do any analysis of traffic, say to detect torrent or Netflix, etc like Procera can? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of timothy steele Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 5:16 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Allot equipment You can do the same thing for free using a pfsense box as a proxy server — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Tyson Shreeves ty...@wigi.us mailto:ty...@wigi.us wrote: We have been looking at a setup from Allot networks. The setup is called a net enforcer, netxplorer, and a SMP server. Its a bandwidth management solution, but what interested me the most was the ability to cache videos and prioritize different web traffic to optimize streaming movies. Any experiences with this equipment or information would be greatly appreciated from another wisp. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Allot equipment
I spoke to Procera at the SCTE show. They are considering a software-only version for really small operators. Procera is awesome but just too darn expensive any other way. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 5:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Allot equipment I have looked at Allot and Procera, IMO, Procera is far superior. _ From: Akinlolu Ajayi-Obe aajayi...@as-technologies.com mailto:aajayi...@as-technologies.com Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:19 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Allot equipment Will of sense do bandwidth management based on IP or username. -- Akinlolu Ajayi-Obe as technologies ltd. 234(0)8023258027 This e-mail and any attachments are intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain legally privileged, proprietary and/or confidential information. Any use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachments for any purposes that have not been specifically authorized by the sender is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and permanently delete all copies and attachments. The entire content of this e-mail is for information purposes only and should not be relied upon by the recipient in any way unless otherwise confirmed in writing by way of letter or email. On Dec 18, 2013 11:16 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: You can do the same thing for free using a pfsense box as a proxy server - Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Tyson Shreeves ty...@wigi.us mailto:ty...@wigi.us wrote: We have been looking at a setup from Allot networks. The setup is called a net enforcer, netxplorer, and a SMP server. Its a bandwidth management solution, but what interested me the most was the ability to cache videos and prioritize different web traffic to optimize streaming movies. Any experiences with this equipment or information would be greatly appreciated from another wisp. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] AF and rain storm
Jim Can you email regarding some MikroTik stuff offline? Jacques L. Fluker Chief Technology Officer Pixius Communications, LLC 301 N. St. Francis Street Wichita, KS 67202 jflu...@pixius.com (316) 219-8554 Office (316) 219-8600 FAX Corporate (316) 219-8654 FAX Direct (316) 651-6301 Cell (316) 755-2407 Home From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 12:11 AM To: memb...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA Members] AF and rain storm Just thought I would share some real world stuff. Don't get me wrong this is in no way dissing this AF link. It has worked geat and I fully expect it to drop off in a hard down poor like this. That's why we have 2 5GHz MT links to fall back on. I just thought it was cool to see everything working like it should. This happened tonight. You can see our TP weather station rainfall graph. The weather station is just down the hill from pinoak tower (no longer a real pinoak). The AF link drops off, the MT 5GHz link ramping up as the AF link drops and throughput on the drain pipe stays stable while all this was happening and no lost packets. There is also link path so you can see distance and actual signal of the link right now with just basically mist. You can almost graph the rainfall rate by the throughput on the MT backup link :) Thx, Jim Patient Office: 314-735-0270 towercoverage.comhttp://towercoverage.com/ linktechs.nethttp://linktechs.net/ wlan1.comhttp://wlan1.com/ [qr_new_cell] inline: image001.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] AF and rain storm
Agreed ;) it's awesome On Dec 21, 2013 6:01 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: This is where a solution like performant really shines Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF and rain storm What OSPF settings do you use to facilitate such a quick fail over to tik backups? Also, this wouldn't switch over until the link completely died so do you do anything special to have OSPF handle this or do you have to wait for it to die? I can just see the link getting bad enough that it will send the smallest amount of data but not drop thus limiting the capacity to even less than a backup link in place. I remember chuck talking about something in the forums about dropping ethernet past a certain signal threshold or when RF link drops. On Dec 21, 2013 12:04 AM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: Just thought I would share some real world stuff. Don’t get me wrong this is in no way dissing this AF link. It has worked geat and I fully expect it to drop off in a hard down poor like this. That’s why we have 2 5GHz MT links to fall back on. I just thought it was cool to see everything working like it should. This happened tonight. You can see our TP weather station rainfall graph. The weather station is just down the hill from pinoak tower (no longer a real pinoak). The AF link drops off, the MT 5GHz link ramping up as the AF link drops and throughput on the drain pipe stays stable while all this was happening and no lost packets. There is also link path so you can see distance and actual signal of the link right now with just basically mist. You can almost graph the rainfall rate by the throughput on the MT backup link J Thx, Jim Patient Office: 314-735-0270 towercoverage.com linktechs.net wlan1.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] AF and rain storm
That's what I thought, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 21, 2013 10:01 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: This is where a solution like performant really shines Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl *Sent:* Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:55 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AF and rain storm What OSPF settings do you use to facilitate such a quick fail over to tik backups? Also, this wouldn't switch over until the link completely died so do you do anything special to have OSPF handle this or do you have to wait for it to die? I can just see the link getting bad enough that it will send the smallest amount of data but not drop thus limiting the capacity to even less than a backup link in place. I remember chuck talking about something in the forums about dropping ethernet past a certain signal threshold or when RF link drops. On Dec 21, 2013 12:04 AM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote: Just thought I would share some real world stuff. Don’t get me wrong this is in no way dissing this AF link. It has worked geat and I fully expect it to drop off in a hard down poor like this. That’s why we have 2 5GHz MT links to fall back on. I just thought it was cool to see everything working like it should. This happened tonight. You can see our TP weather station rainfall graph. The weather station is just down the hill from pinoak tower (no longer a real pinoak). The AF link drops off, the MT 5GHz link ramping up as the AF link drops and throughput on the drain pipe stays stable while all this was happening and no lost packets. There is also link path so you can see distance and actual signal of the link right now with just basically mist. You can almost graph the rainfall rate by the throughput on the MT backup link J Thx, Jim Patient Office: 314-735-0270 towercoverage.com linktechs.net wlan1.com [image: qr_new_cell] ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless image001.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
