Re: [WISPA] ISP Radio Wednesday -- 11CST/9PST - Jeff Kohler From Jab Wireless - Acquisitions

2014-10-28 Thread Dennis Burgess 
Sorry Jack, title was wrong L 

 

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Re: [WISPA] ISP Radio Wednesday -- 11CST/9PST - Jeff Kohler From Jab Wireless - Acquisitions

2014-10-28 Thread Jim Patient 
Jeff was on 10/8.  Jack is tomorrow.  You can download the show Jeff done here: 



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On 10/28/2014 2:53 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

     
 Tomorrow we Jack Lehmann from Straight Path.  We 
will be talking about 29/38Ghz Licensed options that you don’t have to deal 
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[WISPA] ISP Radio Wednesday -- 11CST/9PST - Strightpath 29/38ghz!

2014-10-28 Thread Dennis Burgess 
  
http://www.ispradio.com/images/ispLogoWoodWhite.PNGTomorrow we Jack Lehmann 
from Straight Path.  We will be talking about 29/38Ghz Licensed options that 
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Re: [WISPA] ISP Radio Wednesday -- 11CST/9PST - Jeff Kohler From Jab Wireless - Acquisitions

2014-10-28 Thread Martha Huizenga 

Is it Jack Lehmann or Jeff Kohler tomorrow?

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On 10/28/2014 2:53 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:


http://www.ispradio.com/images/ispLogoWoodWhite.PNG 
*Tomorrow we Jack Lehmann from Straight 
Path.  We will be talking about 29/38Ghz Licensed options that you 
don’t have to deal with the FCC on! *


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[WISPA] ISP Radio Wednesday -- 11CST/9PST - Jeff Kohler From Jab Wireless - Acquisitions

2014-10-28 Thread Dennis Burgess 
  
http://www.ispradio.com/images/ispLogoWoodWhite.PNGTomorrow we Jack Lehmann 
from Straight Path.  We will be talking about 29/38Ghz Licensed options that 
you don’t have to deal with the FCC on!

 

11am CST, 9am PST ! 

Don’t forgot you can download the previous episodes to put on your media player 
and listen while in your car free of charge by going to www.ispradio.com   
Remember to sign into the live chat to ask questions!  

 

n  UPCOMMING SHOWS!

n  Oct 29th – 29/38 GHz Licensed Options with   Straight 
Path

n  Nov 5th – Surge Protection and Grounding with Citel, Inc

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Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product

2014-10-28 Thread Simon Westlake 
Mostly at the access point. It allows you to implement rules that 
control different types of applications in any grouping you desire - 
most people do it at the AP. So, for example, you can create a shaper 
that only allows a maximum of 20Mbps of streaming video at an access 
point. Or only 80Mbps of software updates across a particular backhaul. 
Or whatever makes sense for the network. You can use it to keep your 
upstream from being saturated also, but that is generally not the most 
pressing/hard to solve issue for WISPs, since it is normally easy to 
increase your upstream capacity.


On 10/28/2014 1:03 PM, Timothy Way wrote:
My bad, I must have misunderstood. Where in the network is the 
congestion that these are meant to be fixed? I'm guessing it is some 
piece of a WISP network that is owned on both ends (customer <--> 
tower)? Does this product somehow compress traffic to squeeze more out 
of a link you own both ends of?


On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


I don't think many people care about caching servers in this
regard.  The issue  isn't the upstream pipe filling up, it's all
the APs.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way mailto:t...@way.lc>> wrote:

For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at
Apple's Caching Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides Apple
software updates, iTunes content and basically anything Apple
in a local cache that is transparent to the client. Apple
looks at the source IP of the device asking for content and
tells it to hit the local IP of your caching server. My day
job is a Network Administrator at a technical college. This
has prevented the "APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when they release
updates in regards to our open (public) wireless network.

Tim Way


On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it>> wrote:

Hello,

it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much
bandwidth you have
(and the experince you want to give to the users)

In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they
(all) try to
improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing the
bandwidth
with their policies that could or could not fit your policies.

Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic
locally (e.g.
Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for
sure you have to
work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The
nice thing, in
that case, is that you will be more aware of what your
users are doing
and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is
that you have
to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the
hardware, many are
using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models.

For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :)

Just my 2 cents



> Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to
Exinda for
> years, we are now considering removing bandwidth
managers altogether
> and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies
on core routers
> & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow.
>
> More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in
infrastructure
> rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth
management devices.
>
> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
]
> *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig
> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>
> Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a
product and a
> library available. Have contacted them for additional
information.
>
>


>
> Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net
 >)
> Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
> (920) 452-0455  –
Sheboygan/Plymouth area
> (888) 489-9995  – Other areas,
toll-free
>
>

--

Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product

2014-10-28 Thread Josh Luthman 
Procera?  Limits the traffic based on rules you create.  Some people drop
Netflix to 1500k per customer.  Some do 4/5 of an AP capacity for Netflix.
I've heard several totally different methodologies.

The bottle neck in most cases is the AP (last mile).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Oct 28, 2014 2:03 PM, "Timothy Way"  wrote:

> My bad, I must have misunderstood. Where in the network is the congestion
> that these are meant to be fixed? I'm guessing it is some piece of a WISP
> network that is owned on both ends (customer <--> tower)? Does this product
> somehow compress traffic to squeeze more out of a link you own both ends of?
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't think many people care about caching servers in this regard.  The
>> issue  isn't the upstream pipe filling up, it's all the APs.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way  wrote:
>>
>>> For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at Apple's
>>> Caching Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides Apple software updates,
>>> iTunes content and basically anything Apple in a local cache that is
>>> transparent to the client. Apple looks at the source IP of the device
>>> asking for content and tells it to hit the local IP of your caching server.
>>> My day job is a Network Administrator at a technical college. This has
>>> prevented the "APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when they release updates in regards to
>>> our open (public) wireless network.
>>>
>>> Tim Way
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco <
>>> paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much bandwidth you have
 (and the experince you want to give to the users)

 In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they (all) try to
 improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing the bandwidth
 with their policies that could or could not fit your policies.

 Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic locally (e.g.
 Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for sure you have to
 work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The nice thing, in
 that case, is that you will be more aware of what your users are doing
 and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is that you have
 to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the hardware, many are
 using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models.

 For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :)

 Just my 2 cents



 > Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to Exinda for
 > years, we are now considering removing bandwidth managers altogether
 > and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies on core routers
 > & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow.
 >
 > More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in infrastructure
 > rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth management devices.
 >
 > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 > *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig
 > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM
 > *To:* WISPA General List
 > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
 >
 > Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a product and a
 > library available. Have contacted them for additional information.
 >
 >
 
 >
 > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net )
 > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
 > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
 > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
 >
 >
 
 >
 > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" >>> j...@spitwspots.com>>
 > *To: *wireless@wispa.org 
 > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM
 > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
 >
 > should check out ipoque and their PACE engine
 >
 > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
 > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 
 >
 > On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
 >
 > We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a
 > couple of what seem to be similar products available:
 >
 > Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so
 > they live up to their name :) )
 >
 > Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it
 >
 > NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / Allot
 >
 >

Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product

2014-10-28 Thread Timothy Way 
My bad, I must have misunderstood. Where in the network is the congestion
that these are meant to be fixed? I'm guessing it is some piece of a WISP
network that is owned on both ends (customer <--> tower)? Does this product
somehow compress traffic to squeeze more out of a link you own both ends of?

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> I don't think many people care about caching servers in this regard.  The
> issue  isn't the upstream pipe filling up, it's all the APs.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way  wrote:
>
>> For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at Apple's
>> Caching Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides Apple software updates,
>> iTunes content and basically anything Apple in a local cache that is
>> transparent to the client. Apple looks at the source IP of the device
>> asking for content and tells it to hit the local IP of your caching server.
>> My day job is a Network Administrator at a technical college. This has
>> prevented the "APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when they release updates in regards to
>> our open (public) wireless network.
>>
>> Tim Way
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco <
>> paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much bandwidth you have
>>> (and the experince you want to give to the users)
>>>
>>> In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they (all) try to
>>> improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing the bandwidth
>>> with their policies that could or could not fit your policies.
>>>
>>> Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic locally (e.g.
>>> Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for sure you have to
>>> work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The nice thing, in
>>> that case, is that you will be more aware of what your users are doing
>>> and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is that you have
>>> to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the hardware, many are
>>> using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models.
>>>
>>> For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :)
>>>
>>> Just my 2 cents
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to Exinda for
>>> > years, we are now considering removing bandwidth managers altogether
>>> > and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies on core routers
>>> > & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow.
>>> >
>>> > More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in infrastructure
>>> > rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth management devices.
>>> >
>>> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>> > *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig
>>> > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM
>>> > *To:* WISPA General List
>>> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>>> >
>>> > Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a product and a
>>> > library available. Have contacted them for additional information.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> 
>>> >
>>> > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net )
>>> > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
>>> > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>>> > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
>>> >
>>> >
>>> 
>>> >
>>> > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" >> j...@spitwspots.com>>
>>> > *To: *wireless@wispa.org 
>>> > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM
>>> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>>> >
>>> > should check out ipoque and their PACE engine
>>> >
>>> > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
>>> > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 
>>> >
>>> > On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
>>> >
>>> > We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a
>>> > couple of what seem to be similar products available:
>>> >
>>> > Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so
>>> > they live up to their name :) )
>>> >
>>> > Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it
>>> >
>>> > NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / Allot
>>> >
>>> > Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their boxes, would
>>> > not EVER use again not because of the software / hardware but the
>>> > owner / lead developer which may have changed as it was a long
>>> > time ago we used this
>>> >
>>> > Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just having a
>>> > difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say we all throw
>>> > in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that we have control
>>> > over :) I have to believe some decent server quality har

Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product

2014-10-28 Thread Josh Luthman 
I don't think many people care about caching servers in this regard.  The
issue  isn't the upstream pipe filling up, it's all the APs.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way  wrote:

> For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at Apple's Caching
> Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides Apple software updates, iTunes
> content and basically anything Apple in a local cache that is transparent
> to the client. Apple looks at the source IP of the device asking for
> content and tells it to hit the local IP of your caching server. My day job
> is a Network Administrator at a technical college. This has prevented the
> "APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when they release updates in regards to our open
> (public) wireless network.
>
> Tim Way
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco <
> paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much bandwidth you have
>> (and the experince you want to give to the users)
>>
>> In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they (all) try to
>> improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing the bandwidth
>> with their policies that could or could not fit your policies.
>>
>> Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic locally (e.g.
>> Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for sure you have to
>> work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The nice thing, in
>> that case, is that you will be more aware of what your users are doing
>> and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is that you have
>> to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the hardware, many are
>> using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models.
>>
>> For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :)
>>
>> Just my 2 cents
>>
>>
>>
>> > Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to Exinda for
>> > years, we are now considering removing bandwidth managers altogether
>> > and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies on core routers
>> > & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow.
>> >
>> > More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in infrastructure
>> > rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth management devices.
>> >
>> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> > *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig
>> > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM
>> > *To:* WISPA General List
>> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>> >
>> > Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a product and a
>> > library available. Have contacted them for additional information.
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net )
>> > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
>> > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>> > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" > j...@spitwspots.com>>
>> > *To: *wireless@wispa.org 
>> > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM
>> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>> >
>> > should check out ipoque and their PACE engine
>> >
>> > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
>> > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 
>> >
>> > On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
>> >
>> > We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a
>> > couple of what seem to be similar products available:
>> >
>> > Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so
>> > they live up to their name :) )
>> >
>> > Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it
>> >
>> > NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / Allot
>> >
>> > Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their boxes, would
>> > not EVER use again not because of the software / hardware but the
>> > owner / lead developer which may have changed as it was a long
>> > time ago we used this
>> >
>> > Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just having a
>> > difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say we all throw
>> > in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that we have control
>> > over :) I have to believe some decent server quality hardware
>> > running on an open source operating system with custom code could
>> > fit the bill. Just don't have time to work on this myself.
>> >
>> >
>>  
>> >
>> > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net )
>> > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
>> > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>> > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
>> >
>> >
>>  -

Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product

2014-10-28 Thread Timothy Way 
For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at Apple's Caching
Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides Apple software updates, iTunes
content and basically anything Apple in a local cache that is transparent
to the client. Apple looks at the source IP of the device asking for
content and tells it to hit the local IP of your caching server. My day job
is a Network Administrator at a technical college. This has prevented the
"APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when they release updates in regards to our open
(public) wireless network.

Tim Way

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco <
paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much bandwidth you have
> (and the experince you want to give to the users)
>
> In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they (all) try to
> improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing the bandwidth
> with their policies that could or could not fit your policies.
>
> Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic locally (e.g.
> Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for sure you have to
> work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The nice thing, in
> that case, is that you will be more aware of what your users are doing
> and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is that you have
> to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the hardware, many are
> using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models.
>
> For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :)
>
> Just my 2 cents
>
>
>
> > Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to Exinda for
> > years, we are now considering removing bandwidth managers altogether
> > and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies on core routers
> > & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow.
> >
> > More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in infrastructure
> > rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth management devices.
> >
> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> > *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM
> > *To:* WISPA General List
> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
> >
> > Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a product and a
> > library available. Have contacted them for additional information.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net )
> > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
> > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
> > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
> >
> > 
> >
> > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
> >>
> > *To: *wireless@wispa.org 
> > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM
> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
> >
> > should check out ipoque and their PACE engine
> >
> > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 
> >
> > On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
> >
> > We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a
> > couple of what seem to be similar products available:
> >
> > Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so
> > they live up to their name :) )
> >
> > Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it
> >
> > NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / Allot
> >
> > Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their boxes, would
> > not EVER use again not because of the software / hardware but the
> > owner / lead developer which may have changed as it was a long
> > time ago we used this
> >
> > Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just having a
> > difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say we all throw
> > in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that we have control
> > over :) I have to believe some decent server quality hardware
> > running on an open source operating system with custom code could
> > fit the bill. Just don't have time to work on this myself.
> >
> >
>  
> >
> > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net )
> > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
> > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
> > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
> >
> >
>  
> >
> > *From: *"Dave Barker" 
> > 
> > *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> > 
> > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 4:38:16 PM
> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
> >
> > Back to the original question, is there anything else out the

Re: [WISPA] Change of email address

2014-10-28 Thread Rick Harnish 
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Josh Luthman  
Date:10/28/2014  12:15 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: WISPA General List  
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Change of email address 

Do you have access to the old one?  Just unsubscribe it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 28, 2014 1:13 PM, "Jose Dorado"  wrote:
I work at GoZoe Wireless and we have been a member as long as I have been here 
(4 years). What is the process to change the email address for the WISPA emails?
My new address is: j...@izoom4u.com


Thanks,
Jose

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Re: [WISPA] Change of email address

2014-10-28 Thread Chuck Hogg 
http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/options/wireless

If you don't have your password, then you can put in your email for the
forgot password to get it.  You should be able to change your email address
there.

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Do you have access to the old one?  Just unsubscribe it.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Oct 28, 2014 1:13 PM, "Jose Dorado"  wrote:
>
>> I work at GoZoe Wireless and we have been a member as long as I have been
>> here (4 years). What is the process to change the email address for the
>> WISPA emails?
>> My new address is: j...@izoom4u.com
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jose
>>
>> --
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>> Supervisor
>> Gozoe Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] Change of email address

2014-10-28 Thread Josh Luthman 
Do you have access to the old one?  Just unsubscribe it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Oct 28, 2014 1:13 PM, "Jose Dorado"  wrote:

> I work at GoZoe Wireless and we have been a member as long as I have been
> here (4 years). What is the process to change the email address for the
> WISPA emails?
> My new address is: j...@izoom4u.com
>
>
> Thanks,
> Jose
>
> --
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> Supervisor
> Gozoe Wireless
> 903-263-6302
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[WISPA] Change of email address

2014-10-28 Thread Jose Dorado 
I work at GoZoe Wireless and we have been a member as long as I have been
here (4 years). What is the process to change the email address for the
WISPA emails?
My new address is: j...@izoom4u.com


Thanks,
Jose

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Re: [WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon

2014-10-28 Thread Carlos Alcantar 
I’m guessing when this actually makes it to market you will have everyone not 
far behind since most use the same chipsets.


Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com

From: Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 at 8:19 AM
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon


You saw it was Huawei right?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 28, 2014 11:17 AM, "Gino Villarini" 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
No one…



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Mike Hammett mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 at 10:58 AM
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon

Stolen from?  :-p



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Gino Villarini" mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 8:58:42 AM
Subject: [WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon

http://bbpmag.com/wordpress2/2014/10/huawei-announces-100g-pon-optical-access-technology/



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Re: [WISPA] [QUAR] Re: here comes 100 Gpon

2014-10-28 Thread Gino Villarini 
Yes.. And?



Gino A. Villarini
President
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www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 at 11:19 AM
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: [QUAR] Re: [WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon


You saw it was Huawei right?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 28, 2014 11:17 AM, "Gino Villarini" 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
No one…



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Mike Hammett mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 at 10:58 AM
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon

Stolen from?  :-p



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Gino Villarini" mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 8:58:42 AM
Subject: [WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon

http://bbpmag.com/wordpress2/2014/10/huawei-announces-100g-pon-optical-access-technology/



Gino A. Villarini
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Re: [WISPA] awesome mount

2014-10-28 Thread Andy Trimmell 
Nothing more permanent than a temporary install.



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of heith
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:46 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] awesome mount

This was done by a former tech that "forgot" to fix his temp mount several 
years ago due to insufficient parts availability. The Canopy belongs to a 
computer store who called last night a few minutes before 5 PM. They were cool 
with us coming down at 8 this morning. A few minutes later the bar that uses 
the UBNT called saying their point of sale system was down during Wing Night. 
My tech had just left for the day to go to his martial arts class so I was 
stuck making the fix. Was I surprised to see this monstrosity with the bolts 
pulled out of the OSB board and laying on its side. Fortunately there were a 
few dish network roof mounts laying around with extra bricks to get me by
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Re: [WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon

2014-10-28 Thread Josh Luthman 
You saw it was Huawei right?

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Oct 28, 2014 11:17 AM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:

>   No one…
>
>
>
>  Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
>   From: Mike Hammett 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 at 10:58 AM
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon
>
>   Stolen from?  :-p
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
>  *From: *"Gino Villarini" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 28, 2014 8:58:42 AM
> *Subject: *[WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon
>
>
> http://bbpmag.com/wordpress2/2014/10/huawei-announces-100g-pon-optical-access-technology/
>
>
>
>  Gino A. Villarini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com
> @aeronetpr
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Re: [WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon

2014-10-28 Thread Gino Villarini 
No one…



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: Mike Hammett mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 at 10:58 AM
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon

Stolen from?  :-p



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Gino Villarini" mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 8:58:42 AM
Subject: [WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon

http://bbpmag.com/wordpress2/2014/10/huawei-announces-100g-pon-optical-access-technology/



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Re: [WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon

2014-10-28 Thread Mike Hammett 
Stolen from? :-p 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Gino Villarini"  
To: "WISPA General List"  
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 8:58:42 AM 
Subject: [WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon 




http://bbpmag.com/wordpress2/2014/10/huawei-announces-100g-pon-optical-access-technology/
 







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Re: [WISPA] canopy 7.2.9 sw in pk2 format

2014-10-28 Thread Josh Luthman 
How about this?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/blkk8xxs8ywo0ms/7.2.9.zip?dl=0

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On Oct 28, 2014 10:05 AM, "Marco Coelho"  wrote:

> When I try to unzip this file I get a corrupt header error.
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/m4fhe3wuq2dacek/7.2.9_pkg2.zip?dl=0
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Oct 27, 2014 7:45 PM, "Marco Coelho"  wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have a copy of this handy?  Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Argon Technologies Inc.
>>> POB 875
>>> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
>>> 903-455-5036
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Re: [WISPA] canopy 7.2.9 sw in pk2 format

2014-10-28 Thread Marco Coelho 
When I try to unzip this file I get a corrupt header error.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/m4fhe3wuq2dacek/7.2.9_pkg2.zip?dl=0
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Oct 27, 2014 7:45 PM, "Marco Coelho"  wrote:
>
>> Anyone have a copy of this handy?  Thanks in advance.
>>
>> --
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>> Argon Technologies Inc.
>> POB 875
>> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
>> 903-455-5036
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[WISPA] here comes 100 Gpon

2014-10-28 Thread Gino Villarini 
http://bbpmag.com/wordpress2/2014/10/huawei-announces-100g-pon-optical-access-technology/



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Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product

2014-10-28 Thread Paolo Di Francesco 
Hello,

it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much bandwidth you have 
(and the experince you want to give to the users)

In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they (all) try to 
improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing the bandwidth 
with their policies that could or could not fit your policies.

Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic locally (e.g. 
Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for sure you have to 
work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The nice thing, in 
that case, is that you will be more aware of what your users are doing 
and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is that you have 
to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the hardware, many are 
using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models.

For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :)

Just my 2 cents



> Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to Exinda for 
> years, we are now considering removing bandwidth managers altogether 
> and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies on core routers 
> & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow.
>
> More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in infrastructure 
> rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth management devices.
>
> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
> *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig
> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>
> Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a product and a 
> library available. Have contacted them for additional information.
>
> 
>
> Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net )
> Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
> (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
> (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
>
> 
>
> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>>
> *To: *wireless@wispa.org 
> *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>
> should check out ipoque and their PACE engine
>
> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 
>
> On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
>
> We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a
> couple of what seem to be similar products available:
>
> Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so
> they live up to their name :) )
>
> Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it
>
> NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / Allot
>
> Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their boxes, would
> not EVER use again not because of the software / hardware but the
> owner / lead developer which may have changed as it was a long
> time ago we used this
>
> Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just having a
> difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say we all throw
> in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that we have control
> over :) I have to believe some decent server quality hardware
> running on an open source operating system with custom code could
> fit the bill. Just don't have time to work on this myself.
>
> 
>
> Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net )
> Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
> (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
> (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
>
> 
>
> *From: *"Dave Barker" 
> 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> 
> *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 4:38:16 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>
> Back to the original question, is there anything else out there
> that does what Procera can do?
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Art Stephens  > wrote:
>
> I can not speak for sales since we bought our Procera through
> Powercode - but tech support has be very responsive using
> their web based support system.
>
> -- 
>
> Arthur Stephens
>
> Senior Networking Technician
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> Ptera Inc.
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> PO Box 135
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> 24001 E Mission Suite 50
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> Liberty Lake, WA 99019
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> 509-927-7837
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> ptera.com 
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