I don't think many people care about caching servers in this regard.  The
issue  isn't the upstream pipe filling up, it's all the APs.


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On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way <t...@way.lc> wrote:

> For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at Apple's Caching
> Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides Apple software updates, iTunes
> content and basically anything Apple in a local cache that is transparent
> to the client. Apple looks at the source IP of the device asking for
> content and tells it to hit the local IP of your caching server. My day job
> is a Network Administrator at a technical college. This has prevented the
> "APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when they release updates in regards to our open
> (public) wireless network.
>
> Tim Way
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco <
> paolo.difrance...@level7.it> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much bandwidth you have
>> (and the experince you want to give to the users)
>>
>> In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they (all) try to
>> improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing the bandwidth
>> with their policies that could or could not fit your policies.
>>
>> Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic locally (e.g.
>> Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for sure you have to
>> work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The nice thing, in
>> that case, is that you will be more aware of what your users are doing
>> and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is that you have
>> to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the hardware, many are
>> using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models.
>>
>> For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :)
>>
>> Just my 2 cents
>>
>>
>>
>> > Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to Exinda for
>> > years, we are now considering removing bandwidth managers altogether
>> > and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies on core routers
>> > & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow.
>> >
>> > More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in infrastructure
>> > rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth management devices.
>> >
>> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> > *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig
>> > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM
>> > *To:* WISPA General List
>> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>> >
>> > Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a product and a
>> > library available. Have contacted them for additional information.
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net <mailto:lwei...@excel.net>)
>> > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
>> > (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>> > (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com <mailto:
>> j...@spitwspots.com>>
>> > *To: *wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>> > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM
>> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>> >
>> > should check out ipoque and their PACE engine
>> >
>> > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
>> > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>
>> >
>> > On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
>> >
>> >     We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a
>> >     couple of what seem to be similar products available:
>> >
>> >     Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so
>> >     they live up to their name :) )
>> >
>> >     Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it
>> >
>> >     NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / Allot
>> >
>> >     Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their boxes, would
>> >     not EVER use again not because of the software / hardware but the
>> >     owner / lead developer which may have changed as it was a long
>> >     time ago we used this
>> >
>> >     Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just having a
>> >     difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say we all throw
>> >     in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that we have control
>> >     over :) I have to believe some decent server quality hardware
>> >     running on an open source operating system with custom code could
>> >     fit the bill. Just don't have time to work on this myself.
>> >
>> >
>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >     Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net <mailto:lwei...@excel.net>)
>> >     Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/
>> >     (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>> >     (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free
>> >
>> >
>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >     *From: *"Dave Barker" <d...@broadlincwireless.com>
>> >     <mailto:d...@broadlincwireless.com>
>> >     *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> >     <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>> >     *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 4:38:16 PM
>> >     *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
>> >
>> >     Back to the original question, is there anything else out there
>> >     that does what Procera can do?
>> >
>> >
>> >     On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Art Stephens <asteph...@ptera.com
>> >     <mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         I can not speak for sales since we bought our Procera through
>> >         Powercode - but tech support has be very responsive using
>> >         their web based support system.
>> >
>> >         --
>> >
>> >         Arthur Stephens
>> >
>> >         Senior Networking Technician
>> >
>> >         Ptera Inc.
>> >
>> >         PO Box 135
>> >
>> >         24001 E Mission Suite 50
>> >
>> >         Liberty Lake, WA 99019
>> >
>> >         509-927-7837
>> >
>> >         ptera.com <http://ptera.com>
>> >
>> >         facebook.com/PteraInc <http://facebook.com/PteraInc> |
>> >         twitter.com/Ptera <http://twitter.com/Ptera>
>> >
>> >
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>> >         On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, heith <wi...@mncomm.com
>> >         <mailto:wi...@mncomm.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >             So the last booth I visited at Wispa in Vegas was the
>> >             Procera booth. I am hooked and want to learn more, but at
>> >             $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow, as I would need
>> >             to purchase 4 of them for my current locations that I
>> >             serve. Are there any other solution I can look for to do
>> >             similar functions that may be more cost effective?
>> >
>> >             __
>> >
>> >             _I am also a little leery at the fact that I have left
>> >             them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent an email from
>> >             earlier this week with no return call. So that’s a concern
>> >             if it takes a while to get sales support if tech support
>> >             would be any different. So I was wanting some feed back
>> >             from some actual users of their product or other similar
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